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Title: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: phillip1882 on November 01, 2015, 07:14:09 PM
i sent .0011 bitcoins 3 days ago with a fee of .00000375 and it still hasn't been confirmed, how long should it take?


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: shorena on November 01, 2015, 08:01:50 PM
i sent .0011 bitcoins 3 days ago with a fee of .00000375 and it still hasn't been confirmed, how long should it take?

Can you share the TX ID? It might just need a little push, there might also be other issues, e.g. with priority, number of inputs or the size of the output(s).


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: jt byte on November 01, 2015, 08:03:28 PM
i sent .0011 bitcoins 3 days ago with a fee of .00000375 and it still hasn't been confirmed, how long should it take?

If it really took 3 days i think that by today
Or max tomorrow the funds will be sent back to you.
If you don't mind please share the tx id with use to see more in detail.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: phillip1882 on November 01, 2015, 08:22:20 PM
e8c57a99aa64573160aea043cf9d6661cfe2070ee9bc22638edb2fc573318594-000


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: Ondart on November 01, 2015, 08:31:28 PM

I see the transaction is indeed unconfirmed but there is a warning notice on the page (http://blockchain.info):

Confirmation Warnings
This transaction has an output less than 0.01 BTC but doesn't include a fee. This transaction has a very small output and is non standard. The transaction fee is less than recommended.

It should go through eventually or be rejected. It may have gone through normally with an .0001 fee.

-Ondart


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: extrabyte on November 01, 2015, 08:38:19 PM
e8c57a99aa64573160aea043cf9d6661cfe2070ee9bc22638edb2fc573318594-000

Blockchain shows it as a normal transaction but it is not sent before 3 days remember this.

I think that you will get back you money if it will confirmed, anyways the blocktrail does not show(does not recognize) this transaction.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: shorena on November 01, 2015, 08:39:30 PM
e8c57a99aa64573160aea043cf9d6661cfe2070ee9bc22638edb2fc573318594-000

Keep core open it will confirm eventually. I just rebroadcasted it for you, might be enough even though the fee is a little low.

I see the transaction is indeed unconfirmed but there is a warning notice on the page (http://blockchain.info):

Confirmation Warnings
This transaction has an output less than 0.01 BTC but doesn't include a fee.

Which is not true, not sure how they came up with that warning.

This transaction has a very small output and is non standard.

4602 satoshi is still above current default dust limit of 2730, not sure either whats up with that warning.

The transaction fee is less than recommended.

It should go through eventually or be rejected. It may have gone through normally with an .0001 fee.

-Ondart

That one is true, the fee is low. Bitcoin core currently suggests (2 blocks till confirmation) 15142 satoshi per kbyte which would be ~5647 satoshi for this transaction.


e8c57a99aa64573160aea043cf9d6661cfe2070ee9bc22638edb2fc573318594-000

Blockchain shows it as a normal transaction but it is not sent before 3 days remember this.

I think that you will get back you money if it will confirmed, anyways the blocktrail does not show(does not recognize) this transaction.

OP is using bitcoin core, they can zap[1] the transaction from the wallet and double spend it any time they want.

[1] look for zapwallettxes -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Running_Bitcoin#Command-line_arguments


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: phillip1882 on November 01, 2015, 09:03:04 PM
should i not be using bitctoin core? s that the problem? i thought that was the default bitcoin program.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: extrabyte on November 01, 2015, 09:05:17 PM
should i not be using bitctoin core? s that the problem? i thought that was the default bitcoin program.

That is the default yes and maybe the most trusted one, but also there are some other bitcoin wallets.

For example Xapo and Coinbase cover the transaction fee and they pay it for you even 0.0003 if there is any attack or any stress test.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: shorena on November 01, 2015, 09:15:16 PM
should i not be using bitctoin core? s that the problem? i thought that was the default bitcoin program.

IMHO it gives you the most options. You can (assuming you created the TX):

#1 keep it open, it will rebroadcast your transaction automatically until it is confirmed
#2 decide that you rather want the network to forget about the transaction and try resending it with a higher fee. In this case start core with -zapwallettxes, wait ~12-24 hours for the rest of the network to forget and create a new TX with a higher fee. This is commonly known as a "double spend" even though its not actually one.
#3 In the future use the fee core recommends you and manipulate it with the slider if your TX does not need to confirm within the next 5-6 blocks. Make sure the client ran a while so its no longer showing the warning that it needs more data.

Most other wallets just allow you to sit around and wait.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: phillip1882 on November 01, 2015, 09:22:29 PM
okay  i guess i'll try zapping the transaction and re-sending with higher free, con you give me step by step direction on how to do that in windows 7?


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: shorena on November 01, 2015, 09:30:50 PM
okay  i guess i'll try zapping the transaction and re-sending with higher free, con you give me step by step direction on how to do that in windows 7?

Sure

#1 close core
#2 make sure it closed
#3 Hit Win + R to open "run"
#4 enter c:\Program Files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt.exe -zapwallettxes (modify path to core as needed)
#5 confirm with ok
#6 let core do its thing, it will remove all unconfirmed transactions and rescan from the local data.
#7 wait at least 12 hours before you create a new transaction to give the rest of the network time to forget about the old one.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: phillip1882 on November 01, 2015, 10:34:55 PM
thanks for the help shorena! do you have  bitcoin address, I'll send you a few mcro-bits for the help.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: shorena on November 02, 2015, 07:10:16 AM
thanks for the help shorena! do you have  bitcoin address, I'll send you a few mcro-bits for the help.

Any donation to my node -> http://213.165.91.169/ (direct address 14GXh8khHXd8p4nQRCQdWi7fvHsNCDBkTG ) is greatly appreciated.


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: phillip1882 on November 02, 2015, 07:15:09 PM
sent you all the bitcoins i have in active storage, roughly .00028, its all the bitcoins I've gotten from faucets over a two week period. hope this is a sufficient thanks :-)


Title: Re: coins sent not being confirned
Post by: shorena on November 02, 2015, 08:24:00 PM
sent you all the bitcoins i have in active storage, roughly .00028, its all the bitcoins I've gotten from faucets over a two week period. hope this is a sufficient thanks :-)

thanks :)