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Title: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 04:33:48 PM
I recently posted a thread that didn't receive the response I anticipated, so let me explain-I will try and be as transparent as possible:

I have an investment opportunity; I have a seller that sells me MoneyPaks at a discounted price 55% of face value and the lowest amount he carries is 200, and he accepts BTC as payment. The more BTC I receive, the more MoneyPaks I am able to buy. Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%. It's faster, easier, and no chance for me getting scammed. The turn around time is usually 2-3days per 2000$. I'm not asking that you invest 2000$ but that a rate you can use to gage your specific turn around time. You may think this is a scam, you may not, but the fact is, if you are willing to invest, feel free to contact me or post to thread.

For all those who read my other thread, I apologize for the misunderstandings. I am actually trying to start an honest business here.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: Aahzman on November 15, 2012, 04:36:08 PM
so, he's selling you $200 moneypak for...$110? where's he getting them from that he can afford to eat the other $90?


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
so, he's selling you $200 moneypak for...$110? where's he getting them from that he can afford to eat the other $90?
I don't ask questions, and it's better that i don't know.All I know is I make nearly double of what I spend. And its fast.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: BCB on November 15, 2012, 04:39:50 PM
Get the fuck off this board with your scams. This it not the place for this.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Get the fuck off this board with your scams. This it not the place for this.
What makes you think this is a scam. do you want the convo transcript? what the fuck is your deal.. I'm looking for actual investors.  ???


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: Rising on November 15, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
I don't ask questions, and it's better that i don't know.All I know is I make nearly double of what I spend. And its fast.

You might not ask questions, but law enforcement will.

He's either stealing or counterfeiting them. You don't need anything but common sense to know that. You're trying to recruit people into illegal activity.

Don't expect the judge to buy that you didn't know.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
I don't ask questions, and it's better that i don't know.All I know is I make nearly double of what I spend. And its fast.

You might not ask questions, but law enforcement will.

He's either stealing or counterfeiting them. You don't need anything but common sense to know that. You're trying to recruit people into illegal activity.

Don't expect the judge to buy that you didn't know.
But that culpability is my own...i don't know why you would care what happens to me..


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 15, 2012, 04:57:16 PM
Yeah I'm going with BCB on this one....  GTFO


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: Kazimir on November 15, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Why the f*ck would anyone sell you $200 moneypaks for $110, instead of keeping them for himself and cashing $200.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: BitcoinINV on November 15, 2012, 04:58:43 PM
I third it GTFO we have had enough of this shit


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
Why  the f*ck would anyone sell you $200 moneypaks for $110, instead of keeping them for himself and cashing $200.
Some places in the world you can't cash MoneyPaks, but people have online business for which they accept MoneyPaks as payment, then they look for people to exchange them..like me.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: AndrewBUD on November 15, 2012, 05:06:15 PM
at such a huge loss doesn't really make any sense when they can exchange those MP's for btc and exchange BTC for whatever currency...




Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 05:08:58 PM
at such a huge loss doesn't really make any sense when they can exchange those MP's for btc and exchange BTC for whatever currency...



Then again, some of them are acquired illicitly, but I personally trust most of my sellers to not take this route. However, the transaction between me and the beneficiary will be within the parameters of the law- it's merely cash for BTC.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: evoorhees on November 15, 2012, 05:10:09 PM
"Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%."

The exchangers cost way less than 10% genius ;)


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 05:13:34 PM
"Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%."

The exchangers cost way less than 10% genius ;)
Everywhere I've looked its 20%, please post me a link for otherwise.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 15, 2012, 05:16:43 PM
"Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%."

The exchangers cost way less than 10% genius ;)

Logic isn't his strong suit.   Dammit I don't want to pay 5% I would rather have to convince strangers this isn't a scam and pay 10%!

To the OP,  your about 6 months late for your low skill scams.  Still I will give you 1 BTC* for links to the forums/threads where you learned this forum is full of a bunch of suckers/marks (likely as a result of the Pirate idiocy).   *If you GTFO after providing the links.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: greyhawk on November 15, 2012, 05:18:54 PM
"Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%."

The exchangers cost way less than 10% genius ;)

Logic isn't his strong suit.   Dammit I don't want to pay 5% I would rather have to convince strangers this isn't a scam and pay 10%!

To the OP,  your about 6 months late for your low skill scams.  Still I will give you 1 BTC* for links to the forums/threads where you learned this forum is full of a bunch of suckers/marks (likely as a result of the Pirate idiocy).   *If you GTFO after providing the links.

No need. He very likely got that off hackforums.net


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 05:20:49 PM
"Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%."

The exchangers cost way less than 10% genius ;)

Logic isn't his strong suit.   Dammit I don't want to pay 5% I would rather have to convince strangers this isn't a scam and pay 10%!

To the OP,  your about 6 months late for your low skill scams.  Still I will give you 1 BTC* for links to the forums/threads where you learned this forum is full of a bunch of suckers/marks (likely as a result of the Pirate idiocy).   *If you GTFO after providing the links.

No need. He very likely got that off hackforums.net
Check my profile on HF idiot, I do the same service there too, and have done several deals. I'm trying to expand my base.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: greyhawk on November 15, 2012, 05:26:11 PM
Do you have a link to this place called "HF idiot"?


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 05:51:21 PM
Do you have a link to this place called "HF idiot"?
I'm on HF..


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 15, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
Does anybody else see the problem with this statement:
. . . I am actually trying to start an honest business here.


When he goes on to make these statements:
so, he's selling you $200 moneypak for...$110? where's he getting them from that he can afford to eat the other $90?
I don't ask questions, and it's better that i don't know. . .

at such a huge loss doesn't really make any sense when they can exchange those MP's for btc and exchange BTC for whatever currency...
Then again, some of them are acquired illicitly, but I personally trust most of my sellers. . .

Maybe it's just me, but if I was trying to start an honest business, I'd ask questions, I'd want to know, and I'd make sure that my sellers weren't acquiring their merchandise illicitly.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: paraipan on November 15, 2012, 05:56:14 PM
I recently posted a thread that didn't receive the response I anticipated, so let me explain-I will try and be as transparent as possible:

I have an investment opportunity; I have a seller that sells me MoneyPaks at a discounted price 55% of face value and the lowest amount he carries is 200, and he accepts BTC as payment. The more BTC I receive, the more MoneyPaks I am able to buy. Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%. It's faster, easier, and no chance for me getting scammed. The turn around time is usually 2-3days per 2000$. I'm not asking that you invest 2000$ but that a rate you can use to gage your specific turn around time. You may think this is a scam, you may not, but the fact is, if you are willing to invest, feel free to contact me or post to thread.

For all those who read my other thread, I apologize for the misunderstandings. I am actually trying to start an honest business here.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yOHRNzjDfMM/Tvtnw3cFHDI/AAAAAAAAByg/79sG99pF14U/s1600/haha-nelson.jpg


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 15, 2012, 06:17:58 PM
Does anybody else see the problem with this statement:
. . . I am actually trying to start an honest business here.


When he goes on to make these statements:
so, he's selling you $200 moneypak for...$110? where's he getting them from that he can afford to eat the other $90?
I don't ask questions, and it's better that i don't know. . .

at such a huge loss doesn't really make any sense when they can exchange those MP's for btc and exchange BTC for whatever currency...
Then again, some of them are acquired illicitly, but I personally trust most of my sellers. . .

Maybe it's just me, but if I was trying to start an honest business, I'd ask questions, I'd want to know, and I'd make sure that my sellers weren't acquiring their merchandise illicitly.
It's not my responsibility to know. When you buy bread at a supermarket, do you ask where they got it? No. I just offer my services and fullfil the terms of agreement. That's what I mean by honest mate.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: MPOE-PR on November 15, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
"Here's the issue: I would much rather not pay the high rate exchange fees that all the exchangers have, I'd much rather have someone invest their BTC and then receive cash for their investment plus 10%."

The exchangers cost way less than 10% genius ;)

Logic isn't his strong suit.   Dammit I don't want to pay 5% I would rather have to convince strangers this isn't a scam and pay 10%!

To the OP,  your about 6 months late for your low skill scams.  Still I will give you 1 BTC* for links to the forums/threads where you learned this forum is full of a bunch of suckers/marks (likely as a result of the Pirate idiocy).   *If you GTFO after providing the links.

It's forum policy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1332999#msg1332999).

You can keep the 1btc to offset whatever "Donator" cost.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: Foxpup on November 15, 2012, 07:04:29 PM
When you buy bread at a supermarket, do you ask where they got it?
I do, and so would anyone else with half a brain, if they're selling it for half the cost of the ingredients to make it. And if their answer is "we don't ask questions, and it's better if we don't know", I think I will be purchasing my bread elsewhere. You're either a thief or a scammer, and we'll have no part of either. GTFO.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: Blazr on November 15, 2012, 10:37:26 PM
If what you're saying is true then your MoneyPaks are definitely stolen and transactions will be reversed.

Nobody would sell legit MoneyPaks at half price, nobody.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: Raize on November 15, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
If what you're saying is true then your MoneyPaks are definitely stolen and transactions will be reversed.

Nobody would sell MoneyPaks at half price, nobody.

People who do digital or identity theft then use credit to purchase moneypaks and resell them back for BTC would.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: BCB on November 15, 2012, 10:52:01 PM
That's the whole point.  Please lock this thread.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: greyhawk on November 15, 2012, 11:15:36 PM
I'm on HF..

Is that some kind of drug? Is that what you need to steal our money for?

There are people who can help you overcome this addiction. It doesn't have to be like this.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: Raize on November 16, 2012, 12:26:41 AM
He's referring to hackforums.net where he holds an account and purchases MoneyPaks from people who do the identity theft.

Fair warning for US Bitcoiners, if you purchase MoneyPaks for BTC, your spending of the MoneyPaks will be monitored and you will be questioned by an agent of the federal government.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: BCB on November 16, 2012, 12:27:30 AM
Please lock this thread.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: TimeFlies on November 16, 2012, 02:06:29 AM
MoneyPaks can only be purchased with cash :-/


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: smracer on November 16, 2012, 04:55:44 AM
It smells like Bullshit in here.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: paraipan on November 16, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
It smells like Bullshit in here.

Then please don't step in, this thread needed to be closed yesterday.


Title: Re: I apologize, Let me rephrase that
Post by: John (John K.) on November 16, 2012, 02:30:42 PM
Thread locked to prevent trollfest from continuing. OP, illegal activities are not condoned in this forum.