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Title: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: zenitzz on November 11, 2015, 09:40:22 PM
GJ 1132b is close enough for telescopes to observe any atmosphere it might have, which could help scientists spot signs of life on other planets in the future

A rocky Earth-sized planet that circles a small, nearby star could be the most important world ever found beyond the solar system, astronomers say.

The planet lies in the constellation of Vela in the southern sky and is close enough for telescopes to observe any atmosphere it has, a procedure that could help spot life on other planets in the future.

Named GJ 1132b, the alien world is about 16% larger than Earth, and at 39 light years distant, is three times closer than any other Earth-sized rocky planet yet found around another star. At that distance, it is hoped that telescopes will be able to make out the chemistry of its atmosphere, the speed of its winds and the colours of its sunsets.

Astronomers spotted the planet as it moved across the face of a red dwarf star only a fifth the size of the sun. Though much cooler and fainter than the sun, GJ 1132b orbits so close to its star that surface temperatures reach 260C.

The searing temperatures are too hot for the surface to retain liquid water, making it inhospitable to life, but not so hot as to burn off any atmosphere that formed on the planet.

“If this planet still has an atmosphere, then we might find other, cooler planets that also have atmospheres and orbit small stars. We can then imagine interrogating the atmospheres for molecules that come from life,” said Zachory Berta-Thompson at the MIT’s Kavli Institute for Astrophysics and Space Research

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/nov/11/earth-like-world-gj1132b-could-be-most-important-planet-ever-found-outside-the-solar-system


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 11, 2015, 11:51:44 PM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: AncilVTwo on November 12, 2015, 12:19:21 AM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.
:)
what makes you think it was a lie. and why are you against learning about the universe we live in? science has brought the human race so far and surely in my opinion the money is being well spent.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 12, 2015, 01:10:11 AM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.
:)
what makes you think it was a lie. and why are you against learning about the universe we live in? science has brought the human race so far and surely in my opinion the money is being well spent.

Google and Youtube all the evidence that it was a lie. In addition, the present Orion moon/Mars space capsule is a backward step from things like the shuttle.

Why do you think I am against learning about the universe we live in. We have enough to study right here - and enough humanitarian acts to do here - without thinking about going out there, which is nearly impossible without a lot more study here.

Science has brought many advancements in some ways. But it has taken us backward in other ways, like our understanding and worship of God.

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: thefaucetrunner on November 12, 2015, 01:34:07 AM
That really is amazing, what an astonishing time to be alive. It's stuff like this that makes me quite hopeful. Another recent story I read was about the ITER project; an international project of Europe, USA, Japan, China and Russia to create a fusion reactor. The pilot plant will be built by 2030.

If we pull that off, we really will be entering a new era; not having to worry about climate change anymore, being able to power deep-space exploration, amongst other things.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 12, 2015, 01:46:23 AM
Well, it´s like 250 Trillion miles away so I´m not sure how important it is. Maybe mildly interesting for about fifteen minutes.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: European Central Bank on November 12, 2015, 01:46:40 AM
I don't care if people think it's irrelevant now. Humans have real trouble thinking beyond the end of their own lifetime. Who knows where it might lead in the far future?


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Gronthaing on November 12, 2015, 02:35:56 AM
Well, it´s like 250 Trillion miles away so I´m not sure how important it is. Maybe mildly interesting for about fifteen minutes.

Point isn't going there. Or colonizing it. It's looking at the atmosphere of the planet if it has one. Then learn more about it and how to study the atmospheres in other planets. And maybe learn ways of finding life more easily because of the influence it can have in the atmosphere.

We have enough to study right here - and enough humanitarian acts to do here - without thinking about going out there, which is nearly impossible without a lot more study here.


The sooner we start visiting other planets the better. And colonizing them if possible. The alternative may be taking the same path the dinosaurs did.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 12, 2015, 06:09:33 PM
Well, it´s like 250 Trillion miles away so I´m not sure how important it is. Maybe mildly interesting for about fifteen minutes.

Point isn't going there. Or colonizing it. It's looking at the atmosphere of the planet if it has one. Then learn more about it and how to study the atmospheres in other planets. And maybe learn ways of finding life more easily because of the influence it can have in the atmosphere.

We have enough to study right here - and enough humanitarian acts to do here - without thinking about going out there, which is nearly impossible without a lot more study here.


The sooner we start visiting other planets the better. And colonizing them if possible. The alternative may be taking the same path the dinosaurs did.

Better yet, stop taxing the people who don't agree with you, so it is only YOU who have to pay. If you ever get to some other planet, charge the people who weren't taxed for this, when they want to get in on your operation.

Freedom, not taxation slavery.

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: zenitzz on November 12, 2015, 08:30:35 PM
Well, it´s like 250 Trillion miles away so I´m not sure how important it is. Maybe mildly interesting for about fifteen minutes.
With our current tech, if we left today, it would take 1,078,800 years to travel the distance of 29 light years to this planet :D


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 12, 2015, 09:05:13 PM
What i take from this story is Waste. WASTE of good money. I sure as hell wouldn´t be blowing money on sunsets on planets hundreds of trillions of miles away if I worked at NASA.

No, I would be busy developing subliminal messaging technology for embedding in TV news, shows, movies, internet, phones, maybe directly into the brains of subjects through wifi. Through the phones into the brain would be best since most people seem to be checking something on those phones every fifteen seconds or so. The messages would be like

obey, obey, obey call your congressmen every hour on the hour and tell them that nasa needs lots of money to find awesome planets and other cool stuff obey, obey, obey also send emails send snailmail obey, obey, obey


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Wizardb. on November 12, 2015, 09:13:51 PM
I personally believe that NASA is full of shit.
The reason for this is because the moon landings were faked.
If we extend that we can conclude that everything else NASA "accomplished" is faked.
NASA is wasting billions of dollars looking into space and launching telescopes into space for research when in reality we cannot go anywhere in space.
We do not even know if our current understanding of space is correct.
So much of money is wasted on space, we could use that money to fix this world.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 12, 2015, 09:38:19 PM
They "taped over" the most important footage of the 20th century, right? Or lost it, don´t remember which.

Seems extremely unlikely.

These space adventures are unusual as technological advances are concerned. It´s all about getting better stuff and doing cooler things - always moving forward. But at NASA it´s almost like they went from Dodge Charger and downgraded all the way to a Model T and now they don´t even have a bicycle. Very strange. The moon around 1970, then buzz around the earth in low orbit for a while until the spy satellite market was saturated or someone figured that they couldn´t really be trusted with keeping people safely in low earth orbit. So, reverse technological process. Something weird about that.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 12, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
Well, it´s like 250 Trillion miles away so I´m not sure how important it is. Maybe mildly interesting for about fifteen minutes.
With our current tech, if we left today, it would take 1,078,800 years to travel the distance of 29 light years to this planet :D

Of course, what we see happened many years ago. And by the time the million+ years pass that it would take us to get there, there's no guessing what they would find.

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: subSTRATA on November 13, 2015, 05:38:12 AM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.
i can somewhat agree with just this statement, but for entirely different reasons. the fact that a potentially inhabitable planet exists out there is great and all, but it shouldnt be what the space program should be focusing on; we should be focused more on how we might get there in the distant future. sometime in the distant future when interplanetary travel becomes commonplace (maybe even never), we can think about colonizing other planets and exploring different worlds. however, with our current technology, even a 1 way trip to the moon costs a sizable fortune, and relocating ordinary people would require them to undergo training for space travel. bringing luggage / anything along for the ride would cost a ridiculous amount as well. until a solution to all of these problems can be found, we should stick to advancing our current technology instead of dreaming.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Furio on November 13, 2015, 06:11:18 AM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.
i can somewhat agree with just this statement, but for entirely different reasons. the fact that a potentially inhabitable planet exists out there is great and all, but it shouldnt be what the space program should be focusing on; we should be focused more on how we might get there in the distant future. sometime in the distant future when interplanetary travel becomes commonplace (maybe even never), we can think about colonizing other planets and exploring different worlds. however, with our current technology, even a 1 way trip to the moon costs a sizable fortune, and relocating ordinary people would require them to undergo training for space travel. bringing luggage / anything along for the ride would cost a ridiculous amount as well. until a solution to all of these problems can be found, we should stick to advancing our current technology instead of dreaming.

Space travell is so far in the future, we have the ships, only there is no tech yet against space radiation, every austronaut will have to be extremely lucky not to encounter any of it, with the massive sun in our system, no chance, your brain and cells will be cooked in one burst...


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Pierre 2 on November 14, 2015, 10:57:17 AM
I know this is quite important news but it can't be that important if it is so far away to our reach.
I am more interested about Saturn's satellites. They include ice and even probably water with oxygen (and even big ancient animals-my speculation)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Lethn on November 14, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.
:)
what makes you think it was a lie. and why are you against learning about the universe we live in? science has brought the human race so far and surely in my opinion the money is being well spent.

I'll tell you why, the more we learn about the universe and how it really works the more obselete his religion becomes this is why often have a small swarm of religious posters on these threads trying to claim the scientists are just making this shit up to get funding. By the way as other people have pointed out in the Guardian comments page it isn't Earth like at all and the newspaper is just spreading misinformation about what the scientists have said like they always fucking do.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Gronthaing on November 15, 2015, 02:27:28 AM
^ the title is misleading. Leads people immediately think the planet is exactly like earth. And that the idea is we will go there to colonize it like many posts here assume. But the rest looks right. It describes how the planet is different from earth and why it is an important discovery. What we can learn about its atmosphere. And how that can be used in other places. Maybe even to find life in other worlds without needing to go there.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: enhu on November 15, 2015, 03:02:30 AM
260C isn't a liveable temperature. I don't think there is another earth.
They should instead focus more on improving the planet NOT abandon earth and move to whichever they think is a liveable planet.  Because we'll still exploit that planet in the end and move again to another if there really exist such planet.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: notbatman on November 15, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
^ the title is misleading. ...snip...

Misleading? LOL

We don't even live in solar system, you'll end up in the middle of nowhere reading that article!


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 15, 2015, 10:22:19 PM
260C isn't a liveable temperature. I don't think there is another earth.
They should instead focus more on improving the planet NOT abandon earth and move to whichever they think is a liveable planet.  Because we'll still exploit that planet in the end and move again to another if there really exist such planet.


We´re not going to let lousy 260 degrees celsius stop us. We´ll just spend 500 trillion dollars over the next century developing technical means to survive splendidly there.  ;D


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 15, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
Part of the purpose of the forum is to talk. Some of the talk involves serious things. Some involves silliness and humor. Some involves dreams. Some just chatter.

We all dream, but when we are done dreaming, we need to get down to earth just to survive.

The idea of living on some other planet light-years away is a dream. Without some form of science - that doesn't seem available anytime in the near future (maybe hundreds of years) - when dream time is over, we need to realize that the odds are greatly against us living nearly long enough to see the science, much less going somewhere like another star.

Now that we have the dream firmly embedded, let's focus on making the science real, so that some of our descendants' descendants might have a shot at it.

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Triple on November 15, 2015, 10:50:28 PM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

:)

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 15, 2015, 11:01:27 PM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

:)

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

I don´t know if they really went to the moon. It was a huge gravy-train while it lasted but since then it has all been downhill and now they´re barely in space at all. You would think that if they really went to the moon they´d have at least a small Walmart there 50 years later. They say they may go back to the moon some day but they also talk about radiation problems. Of course it´s understandable that they´re having problems now, they lost a lot of blueprints and taped over history´s most important footage and generally don´t seem to have much of a clue. They make cute pictures of planets 250 trillion miles away though.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 15, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

:)

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

You weren't talking to me when you said, "oh god," were you? Because if you were, you might be considered to be an unbeliever.

As for moon landing faking, the only thing that any of us have to go on is hearsay. Let the people who did it get on the stand and speak into the record under oath or affirmation that the moon landings are truthful. Or do you have such testimony already?

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 15, 2015, 11:07:15 PM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

:)

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

I don´t know if they really went to the moon. It was a huge gravy-train while it lasted but since then it has all been downhill and now they´re barely in space at all. You would think that if they really went to the moon they´d have at least a small Walmart there 50 years later. They say they may go back to the moon some day but they also talk about radiation problems. Of course it´s understandable that they´re having problems now, they lost a lot of blueprints and taped over history´s most important footage and generally don´t seem to have much of a clue. They make cute pictures of planets 250 trillion miles away though.

Right! And in the new Orion space program, they have gone back to using a space capsule. I mean, the devolution in space exploration is showing the devolution in mankind.

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Spendulus on November 15, 2015, 11:13:40 PM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

:)

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

Well, then I'd like to know what exactly was fake.  That Apollo rockets launched?  That they went to low earth orbit?  that they orbited the moon then returned?  That the LEM descended to the surface?

Oh, and we'll have to figure out how to explain the funny craters the Apollo 3rd stages made impacting the Moon.

http://news.discovery.com/space/history-of-space/when-part-of-apollo-13-reached-the-moon-130516.htm

Also there's a big problem with the rocks they brought back.  I guess they could have been actually brought back by little green men since we never went to the Moon?  Because those rocks are definitely from another world.

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/howdoweknow.htm

Not to mention the fact that LCROSS has photographed the Apollo landing sites.  You can pretty much see the footprints and every track of the rovers on the last three missions.  Here's one.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/lroc_20091028_apollo.html#.VkkRjspNEgQ

So where is this argument going?


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 15, 2015, 11:22:13 PM
None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

:)

Oh god. Are you really one of those people that think the moon landing was fake? The 'evidence' you told us to google is just other people like you finding anything that might seem skeptical.

Well, then I'd like to know what exactly was fake.  That Apollo rockets launched?  That they went to low earth orbit?  that they orbited the moon then returned?  That the LEM descended to the surface?

Oh, and we'll have to figure out how to explain the funny craters the Apollo 3rd stages made impacting the Moon.

http://news.discovery.com/space/history-of-space/when-part-of-apollo-13-reached-the-moon-130516.htm

Also there's a big problem with the rocks they brought back.  I guess they could have been actually brought back by little green men since we never went to the Moon?  Because those rocks are definitely from another world.

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/howdoweknow.htm

Not to mention the fact that LCROSS has photographed the Apollo landing sites.  You can pretty much see the footprints and every track of the rovers on the last three missions.  Here's one.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/lroc_20091028_apollo.html#.VkkRjspNEgQ

So where is this argument going?

I haven't been there. I haven't even seen the "tracks" of Apollo through a super telescope. All I have to rely on is the word of NASA. And the word is hearsay, or have they spoken it into the record in court under oath or affirmation?

:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 15, 2015, 11:29:14 PM
I can make out Rudolph all right but where´s Santa ??

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/397621main_ap17_1st50km_4release.jpg

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/397621main_ap17_1st50km_4release.jpg


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 15, 2015, 11:37:16 PM
I can make out Rudolph all right but where´s Santa ??

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/397621main_ap17_1st50km_4release.jpg

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/397621main_ap17_1st50km_4release.jpg


Some really good artists did this one.


:)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: notbatman on November 15, 2015, 11:41:43 PM
... snip ...
Well, then I'd like to know what exactly was fake.  ...snip...

NASA didn't just fake going to the Moon, they faked everything. The Sun, the stars, space, the planets, the solar system, Earth; absolutely every image is fake.

The Earth is flat and the Sun & Moon orbit above.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 15, 2015, 11:48:30 PM
It´s possible that this flat earth nonsense or the recent eruption of it is a psyop from NASA to divert attention from that moon thing. They piss in the well hoping that nobody uses it if you catch my drift.

The main problem with the moon landings as far as NASA is concerned, is that the more time that passes the worse the story looks. NASA is but a shadow of its former self now nobody can deny that.


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: Spoetnik on November 16, 2015, 04:11:18 PM
what the OP said based on spectrography we can deduce the likely hood of life and much more.

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A spectrograph is an instrument used to separate and measure the wavelengths present in Electromagnetic radiation and to measure the relative amounts of radiation at each wavelength. In other words obtain and record the spectral content of light or its 'spectrum'.

if you see oxygen it was most likely from organic life.. yeah that -is- news.

i also think the Moon program was killed off because many missions were done and there is only so much to do there
especially for the cost..
I seen one of the moon mission guys who walked on it first claim it had an unlimited budget and 400k employee's
he said we couldn't muster the resources to do that now if we wanted to.

people who spout off about science should learn science first.
it's highly unlikely the moon landings were faked.
although the claim they 'lost' telemetry data later when asked for it is fishy.
i would say even if for some reason the first one was faked i bet the later missions were not.

And no that guy said the shuttle is better for a mission to mars / moon.
uhh no LOL

our earth's internal dynamo creates a magnetic shield that spans out close to the moon.
that protects us from radiation.
in a space ship you need protection because your leaving the shield zone..
the new capsules that launch soon are going to be on the largest rockets man have ever made.
and they will have walls lined with liquid in various forms (the best radiation defense)
they need space too and a shuttle is not appropriate.. they have to bring food.
It costs 10k to put 1 pound of weight in orbit so if 4 guys going to Mars eat 1 pound of food a day each
and the trip takes anywhere from 6 months to a year to get there and then they can't leave for another year ?
then they have to haul a LOT of food !
not to mention they need a living capsule for the Mars surface / lander etc
the shuttle is NOT appropriate for all that.

fun fact: Russians have guns in space.
they admitted this when one of the landings back on the ground from the space station
had landed in a wooded area the astronauts were stuck over night fending off wolves / bears.
hence the gun policy.. as they admitted.
SO don't piss off a Russian on the space station..
they have confirmed drank Vodka and smoked cigars and have guns on the int. Space Station LOL

EDIT:
I found a face in the recently posted picture we all got from Nasa for Pluto.
Go get it and look at it and tell me if you spot the face like i did. (i seen 2 actually)
www.spaceweather.com is where i got it..
Also i want credit for it.. i found it !
I never seen anyone anywhere mention this before.. NEWS: Spoetnik Finds Proof of Alien Life !


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: BADecker on November 16, 2015, 04:34:04 PM
what the OP said based on spectrography we can deduce the likely hood of life and much more.

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A spectrograph is an instrument used to separate and measure the wavelengths present in Electromagnetic radiation and to measure the relative amounts of radiation at each wavelength. In other words obtain and record the spectral content of light or its 'spectrum'.

if you see oxygen it was most likely from organic life.. yeah that -is- news.

i also think the Moon program was killed off because many missions were done and there is only so much to do there
especially for the cost..
I seen one of the moon mission guys who walked on it first claim it had an unlimited budget and 400k employee's
he said we couldn't muster the resources to do that now if we wanted to.

people who spout off about science should learn science first.
it's highly unlikely the moon landings were faked.
although the claim they 'lost' telemetry data later when asked for it is fishy.
i would say even if for some reason the first one was faked i bet the later missions were not.

And no that guy said the shuttle is better for a mission to mars / moon.
uhh no LOL

our earth's internal dynamo creates a magnetic shield that spans out close to the moon.
that protects us from radiation.
in a space ship you need protection because your leaving the shield zone..
the new capsules that launch soon are going to be on the largest rockets man have ever made.
and they will have walls lined with liquid in various forms (the best radiation defense)
they need space too and a shuttle is not appropriate.. they have to bring food.
It costs 10k to put 1 pound of weight in orbit so if 4 guys going to Mars eat 1 pound of food a day each
and the trip takes anywhere from 6 months to a year to get there and then they can't leave for another year ?
then they have to haul a LOT of food !
not to mention they need a living capsule for the Mars surface / lander etc
the shuttle is NOT appropriate for all that.

fun fact: Russians have guns in space.
they admitted this when one of the landings back on the ground from the space station
had landed in a wooded area the astronauts were stuck over night fending off wolves / bears.
hence the gun policy.. as they admitted.
SO don't piss off a Russian on the space station..
they have confirmed drank Vodka and smoked cigars and have guns on the int. Space Station LOL

EDIT:
I found a face in the recently posted picture we all got from Nasa for Pluto.
Go get it and look at it and tell me if you spot the face like i did. (i seen 2 actually)
www.spaceweather.com is where i got it..
Also i want credit for it.. i found it !
I never seen anyone anywhere mention this before.. NEWS: Spoetnik Finds Proof of Alien Life !

All that being said, now let's get down to reality.   :)


Title: Re: Earth-like world could be 'most important planet found outside solar system'
Post by: galdur on November 24, 2015, 12:14:35 AM
Well , this looks like very important information ....

Mars might get rings just like Saturn’s one day

Earlier this month, scientists announced that Phobos — one of Mars's two moons — is probably falling apart. The planet's gravitational pull is causing the moon to shrink and stretch, and one day (as soon as 20 million years from now) the tug-of-war might end in Phobos's total annihilation. ..........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/11/23/mars-might-get-rings-just-like-saturns-one-day/