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Bitcoin => Mining support => Topic started by: citronick on November 16, 2015, 03:18:03 PM



Title: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: citronick on November 16, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
I noticed that while I am getting decent "Accepted" value, low "Rejected" value but massive "Discarded" value?

What is definition of"Discarded"?

What do I need to do to improve hash rates and reduce discards?

Any impact to my profitability and hash rates, when "Discarded" value is high (currently x2 or x3 of Accepted value)?

Thanks guys - appreciate any guidance

TMT


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: os2sam on November 16, 2015, 03:26:58 PM
According to Kano discarded work is meaningless.  Update your mining software and they'll go away.

Do a quick search through the CGMiner support thread and you'll see a bunch of explanations of it.


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: psycodad on November 16, 2015, 03:37:37 PM
What is definition of"Discarded"?
Discarded shares are shares your miner did find after the pool already announced a new block. So the miner software doesn't even bother to submit it (because it would get rejected).

What do I need to do to improve hash rates and reduce discards?
Hard to say, it could be from bad mining software as os2sam said, a slow and lossy network, mining on diff port with too high difficulty to name just a few.

Any impact to my profitability and hash rates, when "Discarded" value is high (currently x2 or x3 of Accepted value)?
Pools only pay for accepted shares, so yes, more accepted shares - more payout.

HTH


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: -ck on November 16, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
What is definition of"Discarded"?
Discarded shares are shares your miner did find after the pool already announced a new block. So the miner software doesn't even bother to submit it (because it would get rejected).

Completely wrong. Discarded is discarded WORK which means it was never worked on at all i.e. it's totally and utterly irrelevant and has nothing to do with shares.


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: citronick on November 16, 2015, 04:29:56 PM
My discard and accepted value seems to be around the same amount.... i worry if there's something amiss with my network connection?
Meaning the miner could have been able to take more request but not able to because the internet connection is not fast enough.
My password is default so no vardiff settings there. Temp is within threshold. My S7s are hashing fine and 600mhz.


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: -ck on November 16, 2015, 04:45:49 PM
My discard and accepted value seems to be around the same amount.... i worry if there's something amiss with my network connection?
Meaning the miner could have been able to take more request but not able to because the internet connection is not fast enough.
My password is default so no vardiff settings there. Temp is within threshold. My S7s are hashing fine and 600mhz.
Didn't I just say discarded is irrelevant? Fine, ignore the person who wrote the software you're using.


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: psycodad on November 16, 2015, 05:59:01 PM
What is definition of"Discarded"?
Discarded shares are shares your miner did find after the pool already announced a new block. So the miner software doesn't even bother to submit it (because it would get rejected).

Completely wrong. Discarded is discarded WORK which means it was never worked on at all i.e. it's totally and utterly irrelevant and has nothing to do with shares.
Thank you for correcting me in my (wrong) assumption, I was not meaning to mislead the OP in any way (and sorry to OP for BS explanation).

So to make sure I got it right: Discards are happening, when the miner has work received and waiting and this work is invalidated by the pool (i.e. by a new block) before the miner could start to hash on it?


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: yslyung on November 17, 2015, 03:14:40 AM
My discard and accepted value seems to be around the same amount.... i worry if there's something amiss with my network connection?
Meaning the miner could have been able to take more request but not able to because the internet connection is not fast enough.
My password is default so no vardiff settings there. Temp is within threshold. My S7s are hashing fine and 600mhz.
Didn't I just say discarded is irrelevant? Fine, ignore the person who wrote the software you're using.

i IGNORE u CK meh ....... ;P

thx for the correct explanation, i was just looking around . . .

btw on topic, can someone explain HW error in detail ? sometimes i just see like 100 but the %age is at 0 & on some other miner it is like 1000-3000 HW error. i'm sure the lower the better.


Title: Re: How to increase Accepted, and lower Rejected, Discarded ?
Post by: UfoRia on November 24, 2015, 05:12:19 AM
Didn't I just say discarded is irrelevant? Fine, ignore the person who wrote the software you're using.

Hey -ck, what's the highest error rate to shoot for balancing frequencies since you wrote the software I am using. :)


Ufo