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Title: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 20, 2015, 10:47:26 AM

I am disgusted of the scripted nature of Paris attacks. To a casual observer it is nearing 100% false flag, based on the usual tells:

- terrorist drill at the same time
- official death toll (129) widely off from the "number of people who actually lost their life and are confirmed dead as a result" (seen 1, may be more)
- no footage available, or very conflicting vs. official story
- special forces used
- immediate press and public response ready incl only hours to light up all the world monuments in colors.
- immediate human rights curtailments put in place, and directed against people who were the victims, not the purported let alone actual perpetrators.
- measures taken (gun control, surveillance) increase the vulnerability of the people against such attacks in the future.


So this lead me to think that since keylogging is already a feature in most devices and will become mandatory in the future, how can we retain any usefulness of cryptosystems, because to me an important basic is that I hold the keys, and the false-flagging-terrorist-"government" does not hold them?

In 1980s I did not so much care that government had access to my bank account since they had a track record of being largely supporting of the rule of law, and no random or violent action towards own people. Now the tables have been turned - leading politicians in EU are not hesitant anymore to be publicly acknowledged as traitors and terrorists, and shooting own people in a theatre and taking off their rights as a result, with straight face, is sickening. That people accept it instead of returning sanity to the government by telling that their inability to protect the people should lead to more guns and liberties in the hands of people, rather than less, is symptomatic of a people pampered to their demise.

I honestly believed the US would be the first to fall, but perhaps the rougher and less civilized culture there is more dangerous to deal with, and takes more time to thoroughly corrupt and destroy.

But as to the main point - are there any technologies that allow you to store and move value online so that nothing you ever type on your keyboard can be used to decipher access codes that allow the transfer of more value in the future? How does that work?

Or should I forsake crypto and move on to evangelism, at least that IS useful in defeating evil  ;D


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: onemorexmr on November 20, 2015, 10:55:33 AM
tbh i dont see any way to keep private data safe from a gov which really wants them.
undetectable bios backdoors (http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf (http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf)) and sidechannel attacks (which allow the leak of data) are there and usable.

sorry... i'd love a world where it would be possible to trust our govs. but they are just too powerful.

what you may try:
 - buy pc's from different countries (eg china, russia, usa) and split your wealth and just hope that not all of them cooperate or go insane the same time.
 - pen and paper

the only way out is: just try to be unimportant ;-) they dont care about a few millions...


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Spoetnik on November 20, 2015, 11:33:17 AM
i think your high on crack buddy.. brain damaged from meth ?

it was a terrorist attack.. plain and simple
save the conspiracy for the Chemtrails and Big Foot.

Since you don't know how privacy laws work or laws that branch country to country
or even how computers work i will just say it wouldn't happen.. ever.

WHY ?

Because guys like me would crack it in a few minutes and spread it across the globe in a heart beat.

I found a Firewall program i liked for windows about 10 years ago now.
You're supposed to buy it to unlock the full version..
So i keygened it and posted it online.
It used a caeser cipher and SHA 256 encryption.
I made 3 keygens.. 1 in .NET (with GUI)
then i made 2 in 'C'
one with a console and one with out. (Win32 API GUI)
THEN.. when i was getting mouthed off by the developer about my handy work online..
I told him he should watch it or "the scene" would have a run at him..
Then i posted a patched .net binary and a picture showing how i could crack and patch his Firewall security
with 1 single fucking byte.. he said i was a liar.
So i posted the picture plus a tutorial and source code for all three keygens and asked him
what did you say ?
He claimed my patch did not work LOL
of course it did hahahha
Then within the week scene groups in the warez scene started pre'ing his ass hard = i had my ROFL'z

But hey it's cute you think you know about computers though.. how adorable LOL

Moral of the story ?
ANY program i have on my machine i crack at will.. i own them.
I am the boss and i AM in charge.. i'm Spoetnik dammit !

Like robin hood i will knock the faggots out and hand the shit out to the common man.
Unlike rich fuckers who live in a Castle with a Bentley.
..uhhm like you ?

PS:
You forgot to self mod this topic baby..

And uhh Off-Topic much champ ?


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Quicken on November 20, 2015, 11:44:45 AM
Crazy conspriracy stuff aside, biometrics spings to mind - voice print, retinal scan, fingerprint, and handwriting analysis as you enter the characters using a stylus.
Of course it's tough to beat torture if TPTB really want the info.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Jason.W on November 20, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
Crazy conspriracy stuff aside, biometrics spings to mind - voice print, retinal scan, fingerprint, and handwriting analysis as you enter the characters using a stylus.
Of course it's tough to beat torture if TPTB really want the info.

How do you think that biometrics could be used to interface with everything online, at home? Not gonna lie, I also thought about the same thing at first. That's pretty much where the thought stopped though.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: ol92 on November 20, 2015, 11:59:29 AM

I am disgusted of the scripted nature of Paris attacks. To a casual observer it is nearing 100% false flag, based on the usual tells:

...
- official death toll (129) widely off from the "number of people who actually lost their life and are confirmed dead as a result" (seen 1, may be more)
...

I don't know for the other things, but you shouldn't make this claims for the number of people dead : there is a list of named people dead : some of them were somewhat puplic figures : teacher in university, owner of restaurants. Faking their death seems really difficult.
Your plot theory would be more believable without this specific claim.
Would you live in Paris (like me) and not in a far away place, you would know the reality of their death. I know indirectly some of the dead people by just one or two intermediates.




Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Spoetnik on November 20, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
he said False Flag..
In other words the Paris Govt / Military did it but made it look like terrorists did it for some agenda.
Most likely the conspiracy will have these guys chanting to control the general public..
If they want to do that they will just do it.
They don't need a false flag operation to do that.

Documents from way back had shown the CIA had planned one of these for an attack on US soil
during the Cuban missile crisis era during the cold war.
I guess Kennedy did not approve so it was not put in effect.

The CIA is not suppose to operate on US soil.. that is not their mandate.
That does not stop them from doing it anyway LOL

Most of the US military budget is black projects.
Each B2 costs something close to 2 billion a piece and the original order was for 200 ? bombers i think (later cut down)
These were usd during the cold war to Bomb targets and are now declassified.
20 are suppose to be active and 1 crashed in Guam in 2008

Then let's tally up the cost of the projected F22 Raptors.. The most expensive fighter jet ever.
An estimated cost of 62 Billion dollars for the project.

Then let's look at the cost of the Iraq war.. aprox. 4 Trillion usd to date.

Then let's look at the Budget of Darpa, FBI, CIA etc
Oh wait we can't LOL

Let's tally up how much money the USA has.. 10.5 Trillion.
Hey American's happy whee your tax dollars are going ?
Get a grip on your govt monkeys please thanks.

Point ?
Governments sure as fucking hell don't need to plan little attacks to get what they want ;)
They simply take it at will.

EDIT:
Make sure to blame Welfare Mom's for all your problems though guys..
I am sure that $300 a month she gets is what the REAL problem with society is too..
Hmm if one B2 bomber costs 2 BILLION dollars how many welfare mom's would that feed ?

Maybe see if you guys can re-elect Bush a 3rd time ?
Change the term limits and get him in there again please.. 4 more years.. 4 more years !
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" ..says the banner ROFL


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: anthonycamp on November 20, 2015, 12:27:19 PM
there is nervouse in all of us of europe for the fight against terror and even war against terror cells that try by ideology of stupidity provoce the civilizations and its natural will of love and life but the terror its going to stop if we mind hte gap beteen nations and gather us all against terror east and west and all even china


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Spoetnik on November 20, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
there is nervouse in all of us of europe for the fight against terror and even war against terror cells that try by ideology of stupidity provoce the civilizations and its natural will of love and life but the terror its going to stop if we mind hte gap beteen nations and gather us all against terror east and west and all even china

I seen an EU Baptist priest claim my fellow people who attended the Death Metal concert deserved it..
oh how Christian like LOL

I heard about this story quick i was visiting a metal news web site where the attack news broke out..
Chino from Deftones was interviewed at the scene he was set to go on stage in a few days.
The band Deftones was almost gone.. close call.
That would suck i like that band !
But yeah i hear we deserved it.. because Metal music is evil and we are devil worshipers etc.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Jason.W on November 20, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
Anyone watch/see this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXavIbOQnZw

https://twitter.com/pzbooks/status/664529154344419329

https://twitter.com/Tucker23/status/665880803877003265


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 20, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
- official death toll (129) widely off from the "number of people who actually lost their life and are confirmed dead as a result" (seen 1, may be more)

I don't know for the other things, but you shouldn't make this claims for the number of people dead : there is a list of named people dead : some of them were somewhat puplic figures : teacher in university, owner of restaurants. Faking their death seems really difficult.

Well I am not a first-timer in these. It is a common occurrence that people claimed to be dead don't actually die. In US it happens often with the so-called shootings.

Yet, It is illogical to claim that people did not die, anyone claiming such does not know logic. (Same as I regard each and everyone claiming to know for sure there is no God, a patent fool with no logic).

But if people did die, there is a very easy way to know it, better than any official talk which time and again is lie: facebook profiles. Might someone be so kind as to show the 100 facebook profiles of the people that were, yet are no more. When journalists are killed in Middle East, their FB going dormant and newsfeed stopping is a proof of death. I mean it's terrible that people die, and disgusting to ask for proof, but in light of the whole thing being such as setup, it's just normal to be wary.

If I was a fool, I would also buy the "just a terrorist attack" story. Show me even one terrorist attack with no western/israel intelligence not planning, executing, at least knowing it for the last 25 years!!  ::) :P

And let's turn the thread to its topic please - it is easy enough to define - a method to keep accessing an online site from a totally wiretapped environment (because that's what we have, but the bombing attacks are used to officially enable the powers to the controllers so that they can use them in everyday enforcement) without giving reusable info to anyone.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: MisO69 on November 20, 2015, 01:51:22 PM
Crazy conspriracy stuff aside, biometrics spings to mind - voice print, retinal scan, fingerprint, and handwriting analysis as you enter the characters using a stylus.
Of course it's tough to beat torture if TPTB really want the info.

How do you think that biometrics could be used to interface with everything online, at home? Not gonna lie, I also thought about the same thing at first. That's pretty much where the thought stopped though.

Some laptops, like the Lenovo Thinkpads have fingerprint readers, Cameras and microphones. That covers the first 3 biometrics. Hand writing analysis with a stylus isn't really necessary if you have the first 3 imo. As for torture, all the US needs to do is classify you as a terrorist and ship you off to Guantanamo Bay. Then its completely legal. lol.. legal torture. WTF has happend to us?

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 20, 2015, 02:29:33 PM
If you think Paris attacks look "real" and you know the definition of "false flag" (blaming somebody else on the event), I am sorry I can't help you. It is not "real" in the sense of not being a "false flag". There are others who care to debate about it.

I don't care those godless fuckers have set up a bigger torturing centre than anyone else. Yes, I need to tell my wife every day what to do if I don't show up from work, but that is just a fact of life when I lead a godly, heroic, meaningful, and glorious life. Of course they envy me and plot against me day in and day out. I was actually astounded when they first attacked me years ago. I never thought I would have been that important, being a lad who did not know anything or anyone and did not even have any money.

But it would be handy to be able to hold value in some online system. It defeats the meaning of Bitcoin and is a pretty disappointing thought if an official ban on you means that they can confiscate all your bitcoins just as they can confiscate all your bank accounts.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Robin,Hood on November 20, 2015, 02:38:49 PM

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.

Real fake.  No one died period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI)
................check out his vids


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: dloghwak on November 20, 2015, 02:45:05 PM

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.

Real fake.  No one died period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI)
................check out his vids
Oh boy, never go full retard.
Bitcointalk is stuffed with nutjobs it's hillarious.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: worhiper_-_ on November 20, 2015, 02:49:34 PM
Who is is that helps prevent such attacks? If you think we'd see less terrorism if there wasn't any form of government or authority you're very close to being delusional.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Thenoticer on November 20, 2015, 03:11:05 PM
Less and less of us are sheep.

Here is an interesting technology

http://thesoundkey.com

10 Reasons to support the Sound Key:

It’s the first device of its kind.
It’s backed by private investors, so even if we don’t reach our pre-order goal, you will get your Sound Key when we start shipping.
You can brand it with your own logo thanks to our whitebox option (minimum order applies).
It comes with a development kit, to integrate its features into any app and website!
It can be used with any cryptocurrency and other digital signatures (more signature algorithms will be implemented with time).
It can encrypt and decrypt any kind of data (size limit applies based on model).
It keeps your private key physically out of reach of malicious programs and people, as it NEVER leaves the device (the signature and encryption/decryption take place IN the device).
The top model of the Sound Key can encrypt voice messages, without supplementary software, to be decrypted by a specific public key, and thanks to the audio connections, the encrypted messages can be sent via email, IM, or other apps.
It can be used to identify users on websites or over the phone.
Oh, and it talks :-)

http://nxter.org/the-sound-key-helping-you-stay-financially-sound/


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Thenoticer on November 20, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39305

Siege of Paris Is the Same Group as the Charlie Hebdo Attack

Hollande-Siege of Paris 11-14-2015
The siege of Paris on November 13, 2015, appears to be the same group inside France. The reason we say this is because they are acting in a cyclical manner and each group will conform to a unique cycle. President Hollande went on national TV to announce a state of emergency for the first time in France since 2005. This measure enables the authorities to close public places and impose curfews and restrictions on the movement of traffic and people.

A review of the entire refugee crisis in Europe is underway with many forming the opinion that this has been an invasion. The likelihood of this attack actually escalating the war in the Middle East is extremely high. There is an external influence, no doubt. One of the hostages reported that a terrorist said, “It’s the fault of Hollande, it’s the fault of your president, he should not have intervened in Syria.”

However, the cyclical pattern suggests that this is a terrorist group acting internally in France. Perhaps they do get orders from outside, or they may be acting on their own within France. What is clear is that there is an internal element within France that is making the decision with regard to timing.

Between the Charlie Hebdo attack on January 7, 2015 (2015.019), and this current siege of Paris on November 13, 2015 (2015.868), there was 309.9 days or 36 intervals of 8.6 days. This implies that it was a decision made by the same source. There may be people who have infiltrated Europe who are using the refugee migration as a cover given the sheer number of terrorists involved. Still, the decision appears to be the same source as the Hebdo event.

911   2001.696            
Madrid   2004.192            
Hebdo   2015.019            
Paris   2015.868   11.6767   0.84923   309.969   4261.995
36.0429   495.5809
14.1726         5172.999
601.5115


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: MisO69 on November 20, 2015, 08:37:50 PM

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.

Real fake.  No one died period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI)
................check out his vids

Alright I watched his vids. The guy who posted those videos did some re-encoding of them and removed details so that his bullshit story can sound real. he blurred them and darkened them.

This is the actual unedited version of his videos, you'll find it much clearer and brighter. watch?v=TFz9jB3p3IY

So he claims that the woman hanging is being suspended by a harness. While no ropes can bee seen in his shitty video a quick look at the proper video shows she is standing on steel bars which are attached to the window below.

Here is a google street view of the building. you can clearly see the bars. https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.8628421,2.3705084,3a,90y,337.47h,111.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUYsdu4ASc9tFtzh3evGSqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.8628421,2.3705084,3a,90y,337.47h,111.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUYsdu4ASc9tFtzh3evGSqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

There are dead bodies on the ground, a couple being dragged away, probably by friends. A guy hopping down the alley, clearly took a bullet in the leg. While this dirt bag talks about spider man and wonder woman hanging out on the ledge.

Whats clear is that the poster had an agenda, I think it was to get youtube viewers any way he could... The fucking pile of shit he is.



Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: ArticMine on November 20, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
...

But as to the main point - are there any technologies that allow you to store and move value online so that nothing you ever type on your keyboard can be used to decipher access codes that allow the transfer of more value in the future? How does that work?
...

Very simple. Say no to proprietary operating systems. The first step is to click I do not agree on Microsoft's and Apple's EULAs. I posted on simple solutions using GNU/Linux in the Windows 10 security issues thread.

If you trust Microsoft and the US Government with your private keys then by all means use Windows 10. I use GNU/Linux and I must say that I trust the US Government way more than many on this forum.

As for staying with Windows 7, why keep fighting change? The direction that Microsoft is heading in has been very clear for a very long time. I moved to GNU/Linux back in 2006 since at the time I did not like the "vista" on the horizon.

I switched to GNU/linux back in 2009. The only problem for me arose when I bought an HP laptop. It has been a pain in the ass only to install Ubuntu due to UEFI restrictions. After I installed everything, wifi and video card would not work properly and I had to go back to win 8.1
I also tried manjaro linux (based on Arch) and opensuse but nothing changed.
Do you know any good laptop which are fully compatible with linux nowadays?

The first thing to understand about buying a laptop from a vendor such as HP is that there are basically two kinds of laptops. Those sold to consumers and students which are basically junk that is engineered to fail in about 6 months, and those sold to businesses that are quality products designed to last for a long time. It is important to realize that the same manufacturers are selling both the junk and the quality products. The simple way to tell them apart is that the consumer versions come with a glossy high glare screen and the "standard" "home" or "personal" versions of Windows while the business versions come with a matt anti glare screen and the "pro" or "business versions of Windows. So "HP Laptop" is meaningless depending on whether it is consumer or business it is either a piece of junk or a quality product.

The option for a GNU/Linux laptop are several depending on budget.

1) Purchase a Laptop that is designed from the ground up to run GNU/Linux

Here are some examples:

https://puri.sm/ (https://puri.sm/) This in an over subscribed crowd funding campaign for a Laptop designed for 100% Libre GNU/linux distributions. This by the way ensures it will work with virtually any modern GNU/linux distribution.

https://system76.com/ (https://system76.com/)

zareason.com/ (http://zareason.com/)

etc.

2) Purchase an older (Windows 7 era) business laptop, and upgrade the hard drive to large SSD and possibly also the RAM. Before buying check online if that particular model has any driver issues with GNU/Linux. One thing to keep in mind is that if it is two or there years old and there little or no hits on the fora then it is likely to have few if any problems. Also when it comes to drivers GNU/Linux is very good at supporting hardware typically after about 2 years so something that failed say in 2013 could very easily work fine today. I recently bought two HP 2760p EliteBooks from a government auction for well under 200 CAD each. After adding a 1 TB SSD each and upgrading the RAM on one to 16 GB and the other to 8 GB I have two quality laptops that will last me a long time.  One of them replaced an HP Evo 1000c with a Windows 2000 logo and 3.5in floppy drive that provided me with close to a decade of service. When I replaced it this summer it was running a full Bitcoin node using Trisquel GNU/linux. By the way UEFI should not be a problem if it is unlocked (Windows 8.x and earlier). Just go into the bios and unlock it. If it is a Windows 10 machine it may be locked. I suspect that most of the locked Windows 10 laptops will be sold to consumers as part of Microsoft and its partners ongoing junk for consumers program.

3) Buy a Chromebook and upgrade the hard drive. Chromebooks are good GNU/Linux computers except that they have ridiculously small hard drives. They have to be sold unlocked because Chrome OS contains GPLv3 code.


Edit: I have been using this very simple solution for well over 9 years before crypto currencies even existed.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: MisO69 on November 20, 2015, 08:59:00 PM
Back on topic..

Is anything safe to use anymore? Look here, spying malware found on hard drive bios. How many people would even think to look there?

Here is the link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/17/us-usa-cyberspying-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150217#Jf1O2KpXci5dyVQZ.97 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/17/us-usa-cyberspying-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150217#Jf1O2KpXci5dyVQZ.97)

I'm not that familiar with Linux. Could they install malware on a hard drive that can self compile, execute and hide? With windows its easy-peasy since no compiling is required. Plus the said malware probably has a valid microsoft certificate  ;D



Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 20, 2015, 09:07:37 PM
Yeah. The world is moving closer to the time that the NSA etc. can actually use the data they have stolen over the years. People will be divided to sheep and goats, and 8 million pairs of shackles are awaiting the goats in FEMA railway cars. Long time ago I estimated that 75% of the bitcoins are accessible to the NSA with no torture whatsoever, just that they have stolen the passwords via the malware and other methods at their disposal.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: ArticMine on November 20, 2015, 09:08:17 PM
Back on topic..

Is anything safe to use anymore? Look here, spying malware found on hard drive bios. How many people would even think to look there?

Here is the link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/17/us-usa-cyberspying-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150217#Jf1O2KpXci5dyVQZ.97 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/17/us-usa-cyberspying-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150217#Jf1O2KpXci5dyVQZ.97)

I'm not that familiar with Linux. Could they install malware on a hard drive that can self compile, execute and hide? With windows its easy-peasy since no compiling is required. Plus the said malware probably has a valid microsoft certificate  ;D


Without the co-operation of the operating system this is very difficult if it is even possible at all. More often than not the malware is installed via Windows.

The proper way to deal with this is from the prespective of risk mitigation. One can never eliminate all risk, but one can can eliminate by far most of the risk by simply running a FREE SOFTWARE operating system on the hardware.

Edit 1: One must keep in mind that there remains the risk of being hit by lightning.
Edit 2: Free Software operating systems remain safe to use.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: ArticMine on November 20, 2015, 09:12:06 PM
Yeah. The world is moving closer to the time that the NSA etc. can actually use the data they have stolen over the years. People will be divided to sheep and goats, and 8 million pairs of shackles are awaiting the goats in FEMA railway cars. Long time ago I estimated that 75% of the bitcoins are accessible to the NSA with no torture whatsoever, just that they have stolen the passwords via the malware and other methods at their disposal.

The NFL is a much greater threat to civil liberties than the NSA. The reason: The NFL requires people to accept DRM and proprietary operating systems in order to watch the Super Bowl.

Edit: The first step in dealing with a threat is to correctly identify it.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Spoetnik on November 20, 2015, 11:33:05 PM
Edit: The first step in dealing with a threat is to correctly identify it.  ?
Like MS + Redhat teaming up ?

I would say the biggest threat is what i alluded to earlier.. the US govt.

I bet the attacks were motivated at least in part by the War in the middle east.
Sadly all allies to the US are now fair game too.

I have already pointed out how the USA started this.
Seems every American wants ignore a long history of bullying the middle east etc.
Even when your told again and again.

It's no conspiracy there is a long history that led up to 911 that bridged us to where we are now.

All of it is tied to the US govt's actions.
Seems they do what they want and the American people just say oh well i didn't approve etc.

Not trying to bash the US, it's how things are and how they played out.
Sitting here as a Canadian we have been dragged into this "War" like France has etc.

I thought of posting this because of the US laws passed after 911.
the whole terrorism excuse for spying and robbing people of their privacy crap.
Which extends across the borders of course..


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: ArticMine on November 21, 2015, 02:39:15 AM
Edit: The first step in dealing with a threat is to correctly identify it.  ?
Like MS + Redhat teaming up ?
...

This misses the point entirely. It does not matter who writes the Free Software Microsoft, the NSA etc. What matters is that anyone can independently review the software.  With propriety software you are not even allowed to look at the code, in fact in many cases it is actually illegal to look at the code.  With DRM you do not even have control of your devices. What you have is the illusion of control.  Focusing on governments ignores the real threat which is corporations trying to control your every move for profit.

Those who do not see the real threat need to learn about the PRISM program.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29) Cutting off the corporations from the data deals with the whole threat including the much smaller threat posed by governments who for the most part obtain their spying data from those same corporations.

Edit 1: This quote illustrate what I mean by the illusion of control. The only entity who owns a Windows computer is Microsoft.

i think your high on crack buddy.. brain damaged from meth ?

it was a terrorist attack.. plain and simple
save the conspiracy for the Chemtrails and Big Foot.

Since you don't know how privacy laws work or laws that branch country to country
or even how computers work i will just say it wouldn't happen.. ever.

WHY ?

Because guys like me would crack it in a few minutes and spread it across the globe in a heart beat.

I found a Firewall program i liked for windows about 10 years ago now.
You're supposed to buy it to unlock the full version..
So i keygened it and posted it online.
It used a caeser cipher and SHA 256 encryption.
I made 3 keygens.. 1 in .NET (with GUI)
then i made 2 in 'C'
one with a console and one with out. (Win32 API GUI)
THEN.. when i was getting mouthed off by the developer about my handy work online..
I told him he should watch it or "the scene" would have a run at him..
Then i posted a patched .net binary and a picture showing how i could crack and patch his Firewall security
with 1 single fucking byte.. he said i was a liar.
So i posted the picture plus a tutorial and source code for all three keygens and asked him
what did you say ?
He claimed my patch did not work LOL
of course it did hahahha
Then within the week scene groups in the warez scene started pre'ing his ass hard = i had my ROFL'z

But hey it's cute you think you know about computers though.. how adorable LOL

Moral of the story ?
ANY program i have on my machine i crack at will.. i own them.
I am the boss and i AM in charge.. i'm Spoetnik dammit !

Like robin hood i will knock the faggots out and hand the shit out to the common man.
Unlike rich fuckers who live in a Castle with a Bentley.
..uhhm like you ?

PS:
You forgot to self mod this topic baby..

And uhh Off-Topic much champ ?

Edit 2:  The next time you go out count how many security cameras are pointed at you. 1) Those controlled by private businesses 2) Those controlled by governments. Then one finds out who is really doing the spying here.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Spoetnik on November 21, 2015, 07:21:32 AM
answer the OP's question ?

do what i do.. type everything numerous times LOL
at least if your logged then the guy reading it is gonna go nuts trying to read it.

i once put a keylogger on my own PC to see what my stupid slut ex-girlfriend was doing.
and it was still hard to read even simple bits of info spelled properly.. at least with a raw output format key logging file.

and yeah i caught that dumb whore up to no good and spent a long time quizzing here first all sly like muhahahaha
i made sure i caught her in shit loads of lies before i jammed the logs down her throat and said see bitch ?

Disclaimer:
No slutty lying whores were harmed in the exposing of any sluts with keylogging software.
It is actually not possible to jam a computer text format file down another persons throat.
now you know !
#SpoetnikFacts

And yeah i actually do that.. mostly because i just can't type.. i suck LOL
..so i end up retyping pretty much every damn word i type out (even worse on my Android phone)

EDIT:
If your gonna hit quote on me ALWAYS give me a few minutes to fix some typo's guys kthxbye


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 10:09:43 AM
Focusing on governments ignores the real threat which is corporations trying to control your every move for profit.

Neither of those is the real problem. I don't believe an extremely industrious family father who can make so much money as to not care about corporations milking him or government taxing him, would be in a danger zone.

Yet, historically I have been, and that has to be because the haters are somebody else, and in my 10-year study of how the world works, I have identified them to be the supranational control groups, who also exercise influence on governments and have made eg. EU nations acts in coordinated insanity for a few months in the face of this (actually - existential) threat they face.

I am merely trying to probe the worst case here. If it cannot be avoided that keylogging gets all my passwords known by somebody, I should reduce my stake on wealth that requires a password to use (going back to PM).

It is a mistake to believe the same amount of resources is used to track and harass me, compared to you. I have caught them doing real-time surveillance in Facebook "private" chat and reading self-destructible messages before the recipient! I think it is idiotic to blow the cover, because the information on how much they are actually willing to spend on me, is flattering, AND useful for you to read. With that amount of interest in things that by all decency should be private, they probably have enough court-compatible evidence to convict me on Money laundering, fraud, embezzlement, failure to file, tax evasion, use and trade of illicit drugs, neglect of use and trade of prescription drugs, DUI, driving without passport and car papers, driving a car registered in another EU member state, driving a nonregistered or uninspected car (or believing so before doing it - even if it turned out that the car was registered and inspected), unbelief and teaching refusal of holocaust, including to minors, neglect to believe and teach support of holocaust, racism, satanism, Christianity, ODD, homosexuality (crime until 1922, insanity until 1970), lack of homosexuality (insanity from 2005, crime from ??), lack of being passionate of being homosexual or not, or caring about it in the others, lack of understanding that free speech does not constitute saying "homosexuality is sin", lack of logic in still accepting homosexuals as people, even as friends, hate speech, hate speech in saying both recent and older research results in the differences of races, and citing researchers about how to manage the pressing issues in front of us, not caring about the UN declaration that says 'races do not exist and even talking in context of race is racism', not caring about the myriad of declarations that since that are talking about race, having the guts to see any problem between the illogicality, treason, conspiracy to attempt to overthrow the government, knowing people personally from more than 50 countries and having travelled in such many (Mexico being the most important with no personal friends though I like Malukah) and still believing that despite that people are similar, they also have differences, hetero porn, gay porn, animal porn, child porn, ..., ... (porn is problematic because the ziomedia are trying to make it as widely legalized as possible to corrupt people the more, so often people are convicted of usually planted files that are injected to their computer or even easier: just claimed that they were there, of the styles of porn that have since been legalized in an attempt to corrupt the people, but can handily be used to throw the freethinkers to prison for a long time as well at the same time, exchanging money without licence, spending money without licence, earning money without license, carrying more cash across border without license, operating a restaurant, a bar, a tobacco store, a gold and silver store, a bitcoin, monero and other virtual asset store (without license), arranging and participating in initial public offerings without license, trying to renovate my manor without license or having workmen who have no license, brushing teeth without license, failing to brush the teeth without license, ...

I was actually born naive  ;D Well a few years of the above teaches you differently .. Facing the insanity that surely is coming, will be easier if your assets are not pawn to the losers who are doing their best to stay in power in these last years with writing already in the wall. (<-- see how reasonable I am, not any desire to be martyred or go to jail or even lose my money, but also not give an inch in to the lying fuckers, and ready to accept what comes!)


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: EvilDave on November 21, 2015, 10:58:40 AM

I am disgusted.......
***cut***
..........move on to evangelism, at least that IS useful in defeating evil  ;D

An evangelist conspiracy theorist.........well, I have two important pieces of news for ya:

There are no gods. Really, it's just a stupid fucking delusion.
Science started as a search for the presence of gods, and they are nowhere to be found,
despite hundreds of years of diving deep into how the universe works.

Check out Occams Razor for your conspiracy theories:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Given two possible explananations for the same thing: the least complicated explanation is most likely to be right.

Which is easier to believe; that there is an active terrorist movement with genuine beliefs, or that the CIA/NSA/whoever are so clever that they can create and manipulate these events without anyone ever noticing, except for a few conspiracy theorists ?

Most governments are just as incompetent as most people, so giving them god-like powers to manipulate everything is just plain dumb. (see above)

(As an aside, the current ISIS/Daesh core beliefs were indeed spun up by the CIA back in the 1980's as a psywar technique to motivate the Mujahadeen, to bog the USSR down in their own version of Vietnam...and things snowballed from there into the situation we now face. But there is no way that the CIA/whoever directly control ISIS/Daesh)


As usual with conspiracy theories....i'd love to see some evidence of any kind.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 11:04:23 AM
As usual with conspiracy theories....i'd love to see some evidence of any kind.

Funny that not-so stupid people after enough study, are able to see the evidence in plain sight, and are not even interested to have this discussion any more. If any of the 9 points I mentioned in this thread does not ring a bell maybe the illogic is on you  ;)


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: TPTB_need_war on November 21, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
rpietila (Risto),

1. Theoretically the governments can not conquer cryptography. What ever they require over the wire, can in theory be countered with steganography because even governments don't have asymmetric computing resources sufficient to overcome the probabilities of obfuscation afforded by math. (doubt they can monopolize all sources of hardware so I think they can only hope to control the routers on the network) Btw, did you see my prior post today about the failure of Cryptonote anonymity as a paradigm?

2. Rather than identify any one sector as the cause of the lurch towards the NWO clusterfuck, admit it is the "number of man" 666[1]. The implicit nature of man is the beast. Thus pointing fingers towards "globalists", "large scale governance", "alignment of multi-national corporations with globalism" is pointless. The pointed fact is the nature of man is on auto-pilot and will always be (power begets power and a power vacuum begets the powerful). The globalists are powerless to escape the hamster wheel, because the current economic system demands that they do what they do. I have promulgated the theory (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg13011371#msg13011371) that the Knowledge Age changes the fundamental economics, which should reset the world after the NWO clusterfuck has killed off all those who partake the 666 (i.e. who don't turn away from the nature of man in this context). Note that Europe (and the rest of the world) embraced humanism (that man is greater than and can control the serendipity of nature, on social issues, environmentalism, climate, and even on the business cycle as Armstrong eloquently points out) and thus is receiving its clusterfuck as a reward. That so many of humanity willingly turn away from themselves being the root cause of the clusterfuck by blaming it on the invented false flag known as "Big T" (for terrorism) is indicative of this process of the nature of man (the denial of the fact that man is not superior to nature).

3. Risto please lose your delusion that Russia is a benevolent actor in this. Russia is playing its role in the clusterfuck, such as heightening the excuse that the Muslims could do terrorism in Europe. Remember Putin was/is the head of Russia secret service, then we know that ISIS means "Israel's Secret Intelligence Service" and see below for the CIA's involvement.


[1] Coincidentally 666nm is the approximate wavelength of "blood red".


http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39470

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Quote from: Armstrong
Carving Up the Middle East
Posted on November 17, 2015 by Martin Armstrong

QUESTION: Why did ISIS target France rather than Germany? Someone said it was France who created Syria. Is that really true?

ANSWER: Germany is not actually a target in this chess game. It is one reason we selected Berlin for our conference, even compared to London, since we had Panic Cycles in November. Germany has less than 62,000 in its army and being in the army in Germany was perhaps worse than a tax collector. The joke was that the German army does not shoot. Germany is not in the view of ISIS as is France, Britain, and the USA. Germany may be the biggest economy in Europe, but the people blamed their own military for the nation’s suffering, as did Japan.

Indeed, the Middle East as we know it today emerged from decisions made by the Allies during and after World War I. Britain and France took it upon themselves to transform what had been provinces of the old Ottoman Empire into the modern states we have come to know. This has created an international tinderbox that remains at the core of the current conflicts and politics in the Middle East.

The partitioning of the Middle East into the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire was set under the terms of a secret Sykes-Picot Agreement of April-May 1916. The agreement gave Mesopotamia (Iraq), the Gulf, and the regions bordering Palestine to Britain, while Syria and most of the eastern part of the region went to France.

The Cairo Conference was a meeting of Britain’s Middle East experts. The conference began formally on the morning of Saturday, March 12, 1921. The conference approved a plan for giving control over two large pieces of the former Turkish territories that Britain controlled to princes in the Hashemite family. It was agreed that Prince Feisal, with whom T.E. Lawrence had worked during and after World War I, would become king of a new country created from the Turkish Province of Mesopotamia; it would be called Iraq. His brother, Prince Abdullah, would rule a country made up of Palestine west of the Jordan River: Transjordan (now Jordan).

Britain’s interest in the provinces focused on safeguarding the trade route to India to ensure cheap and accessible oil for Britain’s requirements. Therefore, maintaining the balance of power in the Mediterranean was essential to its economic advantage.

France hoped to maintain its centuries-old ties with the Syrian Catholics. In so doing, France looked to establish a strategic and economic base in the eastern Mediterranean. It was not oil then, but maintaining a cheap supply of cotton and silk, that prevented Arab nationalism from destabilizing France’s North African empire. Therefore, France held Syria in the partition process. That is coming back to haunt them to this day.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39305

Quote from: Armstrong
Siege of Paris Is the Same Group as the Charlie Hebdo Attack

The siege of Paris on November 13, 2015, appears to be the same group inside France. The reason we say this is because they are acting in a cyclical manner and each group will conform to a unique cycle. President Hollande went on national TV to announce a state of emergency for the first time in France since 2005. This measure enables the authorities to close public places and impose curfews and restrictions on the movement of traffic and people.

A review of the entire refugee crisis in Europe is underway with many forming the opinion that this has been an invasion. The likelihood of this attack actually escalating the war in the Middle East is extremely high. There is an external influence, no doubt.

...

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39316

Quote from: Armstrong
It Is Time to Knock off the Bullshit About Surveillance for Terrorism

The worldwide collection of phone calls, emails, and text messages is all about taxes – NOT terrorism. Despite this power, these surveillance methods have failed to prevent even one terrorist act. There was the case of the Boston Bombers, two kids using cell phones, who they failed to catch. Then there was the case when two guys dressed up as women and attacked the NSA itself. They didn’t know about that. Then Charlie Hebdo, that too was a surprise. Now we have an all-out assault on civilians in Paris carried out by three suicide squads, and again, they were clueless. This surveillance does not work because they are only monitoring the people for taxes. Otherwise, they would not be storing everything forever.

Ministry for State Security (Stasi) smelling jars _ From the Vault

Let’s get honest here. The only other intelligence agency to collect evidence on everyone was the notorious Stasi of East Germany. When the wall came down, the extent of the secret police operations targeted against their own people was mind-blowing. What surfaced was their “smelling jars” collection. Yes, the Stasi used odor recognition to keep tabs on anyone they suspected. The Stasi often collected the samples covertly by breaking into homes to stealing a suspects’ used underwear. They then kept them in jars in case they turned up missing to hunt them down.

A friend grew up behind the wall. When it fell, his father obtained the Stasi file on him, just as the NSA now builds files on everyone. In that file, he read that all his friends were reporting him to the Stasi. He no longer retains any friends for his trust in humanity was destroyed.

Come 2017, the G20 will being sharing information on everyone purely for taxes. Any credit, account, or transaction will be reported to your home country. This is all about TAXES, not about truly stopping terrorism. On that score, they have a near perfect record of failure because collecting everything means that there is no possible way to ascertain that a terrorist attack will take place tomorrow. The terrorists can freely use their cell phones because collecting every phone call becomes impossible to sift through in a timely manner.

They will use this incident for even more power. Nonetheless, because everyone now knows that governments collect everything, terrorists would obviously use other forms of messages. Genghis Khan tattooed messages on the heads of messengers and their hair would cover the message up. The Romans established a network of signal towers where messages were rapidly sent over hundreds of miles from one tower to the next.

One of the oldest methods of communication is the pigeon post. As a method of communication, it dates back to the ancient Persians who trained birds. The Mughals of central Asia who occupied a large part of India on through into Afghanistan, used pigeons as messengers. Julius Caesar adopted pigeons as messengers from the Persians during his conquest of Gaul (France). The Greeks also used pigeons to convey the names of the victors at the Olympic games to their various cities.

The Romans also employed a Pony Express where relays would carry messages as well as communications between private people. Letters between wives of high-ranking soldiers have survived, confirming communications were taking place. Indeed, one could actually get a letter from England to Rome in ten days or less. Low ranking soldiers were not allowed to marry and were not allowed to have connections locally. This provided two functions. First, the obvious need to transfer soldiers without complications, but more importantly, no local ties ensured that soldiers would not hesitate to move against citizens in the case of a revolt.

The British, Scottish, and Irish all constructed coastal signal towers like the Romans to warn of the threat of a Napoleonic invasion. Napoleon was a brilliant strategist who created the semaphore telegraph or optical telegraph. The Napoleonic semaphore signal system conveyed information by means of visual signals. It laid the groundwork for our modern communications. Napoleon constructed towers with pivoting shutters. Information was encoded by the position of the mechanical elements.

Perhaps the most famous use of pigeon was the advance news of the British victory at Waterloo of June 19, 1815, used by the Rothschilds. It is true that they too used pigeons, but there is no conclusive evidence that pigeon messengers were the method of communication that gave them a warning two days in advance.

Now that everyone knows that the NSA and every other intelligence agency are collecting everything, those really engaged in terrorism will never use such means. There are many ways around this and training birds began in Persia (Iran). Let’s knock off the bullshit and stop the Stasi tactic of building files on everyone. If they focus solely on the targets to protect society, we just might stop something like this from happening.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39274

Quote from: Armstrong
G20 Agrees to Share ALL Information on Everyone Starting in 2017
Posted on November 13, 2015 by Martin Armstrong


The Bundestag in Germany has unanimously adopted the automatic exchange of financial data with all other states. Banks will be obliged to report information on credit, interest, and dividends from 2017 to the authorities. You can no longer get a credit card outside of the country. You live to pay taxes. Nobody wants to deal with the nightmare of keeping track of everyone. The costs have already exceeded $200 billion and are rising within the private sector so that these politicians can increase taxes on everything.

Below realize that when Armstrong implicated the oil pipeline he was not seeing the big picture of how the "nature of mankind" is moving into the NWO clusterfuck. The Puritans were yet another example of man thinking he is greater than nature....read below...

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/21995

Quote from: Armstrong
Sunni v Shiite Civil War in Islam – Drawing The World Into Another Crusade – Precise with War Cycle
Posted on September 24, 2014 by Martin Armstrong

The entire Benghazi incident was not what it seems. Based upon information and belief, Ambassador Sevens was initially providing arms to Libyan rebels to overthrow Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who was killed by the U.S. funded rebels on October 20, 2011 during the Battle of Sirte. President Obama signed a secret order authorizing covert U.S. government support for rebel forces seeking to oust Gaddafi, reported Reuters on March 20, 2011. Almost a year after the fall of Gaddafi, on Sept. 11 and 12, 2012, a U.S. diplomatic compound and CIA annex in the Libyan city of Benghazi were attacked, killing four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens who served there between June 2012 to September 12, 2012, reported the Washington Post. However, Stevens had served in Libya twice previously: as the Deputy Chief of Mission (from 2007 to 2009) and as Special Representative to the National Transitional Council (from March 2011 to November 2011) during the Libyan revolution. He arrived in Tripoli in May 2012 as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya.

According to reliable sources, Stevens was then providing arms to Libyan rebels to overthrow Gaddafi via the CIA. On September 3rd, 2013, the Telegraph in London reported that during a meeting at the White House, the president assured Senator John McCain that after months of delay the US was meeting its commitment to back moderate elements of the opposition. Steven was appointed to the National Transitional Council in March 2011 BEFORE Gaddafi was killed in October 2011. Obviously, Stevens was in the middle of the CIA operation.

Recently declassified documents, General Ham knew within minutes that our Benghazi consulate was not only under attack, but that it was a terrorist attack. General Ham immediately informed General Dempsey, the two of them immediately informed Secretary Panetta, who immediately met with President Obama. Therefore, within an hour, President Obama KNEW the ambassador and his staff were under attack by a well-armed terrorist group. He then ordered that NO ASSISTANCE be provided to the consulate staff, four of whom were killed.

The mystery is that help stood near by. Why no help? Was this because the arms supply had shifted from Libya to Syria and this was pay-back for CIA shenanigans? Weeks following the incident, Obama and many of his aides (including then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then U.N. Ambassador/now National Security Adviser Susan Rice) REPEATEDLY told the public the violence had been the result of a protest over a YouTube video gone awry. Obama and Clinton told the victims’ families that they had no idea it was a terror attack or that the consulate was in serious danger.

After Obama’s re-election campaign was over, only then did evidence emerge that the video story was a cover-up and the Obama administration then apologized for having knowingly and deliberately LIED to American voters at a sensitive time to win the campaign. While being questioned about this, Hillary Clinton in her tactless response: “What DIFFERENCE does it make?”

The difference is that the U.S. funded elements of ISIS and this was a political move with an objective to help Saudi Arabia (Sunni) get a pipeline through Syria to compete with Russia for the European market. What is clear, is that ISIS is well-funded and is intent upon creating war with Christianity – a very radical sect of Islam that is as extreme as the Puritans were in England. Their radical goal is to inspire all Muslims to join their cause around the world. The Puritans outlawed kissing your wife in public, all sports because it led to cursing, plays because acting was a lie, and even Christmas with spies peeking in your windows to ensure you were not celebrating. When they arrive in America as the “Pilgrims” they slaughtered 600 Indians because their women were bare-breasted and that offended God. The Puritans also beheaded King Charles I before the French Revolution. So there are extremes in all religions and Islam as a whole will join these radicals for the majority of Sunni do not share their ideas.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/14205

Quote from: Armstrong
Syria – Benghazi Connection
Posted on September 4, 2013 by Martin Armstrong

What is taking place in Syria is far more complicated than most people suspect. As with everything, there is the story, and then there is the truth lurking behind the story. The region has been flooded with weapons supplied to rebels initially in Libya that have flowed to Syria, Mali, and even back to the streets in the USA. Nothing but nothing is what it appears. There is way too much bullshit for we are far beyond a shovel – we now need full blown mining equipment to get to the truth about anything.

John Christopher Stevens (1960–September 12, 2012) was the American diplomat and lawyer who served as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya from June 2012 until his murder on September 12, 2012. The entire Benghazi incident is far deeper than most people would ever dream. True, the Obama administration is covering up the incident as 22 CIA agents were present at the time.

One source has reported that the CIA has been subjecting operatives working in Libya to frequent polygraph tests to make sure they are not leaking information about Benghazi. Why? What is lurking in the shadows? The real reasons why and the connection to Syria today are discussed behind-the-curtain – not in the open.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: TPTB_need_war on November 21, 2015, 11:50:33 AM
I edited my prior post and note the bolded portion I added.

Hmm... I just found out about this man here. He's a former US Marine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltV-zdKdpDA

Much of what he is saying is correct. The Pentagon / DoD had a report leaked from 2012 that accepted that any Sunni terrorist group may attempt to establish themselves in eastern Syria and that Saudi / Qatari / Turkish / US backers believed this would assist in destabilising Assad, which is the main goal. And after turning two secular regimes into failed states, they are now going for three. Next up of course is Iran itself.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092#.ka6ifvkuw

However, complicity is not the reason they haven't attacked Israel. On a geopolitical level I would think that the Israeli's would prefer to keep the secular Assad regime in control, although stopping the flow into hezbollah from Iran via Syria may override this. But, ISIS, the frankenstein's monster of militant groups, is following the strictest version of the end of days and to stray from it is sinful, as they state in their own propaganda. So first they deal with the Shia (whom they see as apostates), then they will deal with Sunni's from Saudi who are disbelievers, then attempt to take Turkey (before being beaten back into Syria). All the while holy war overseas is permitted to incite hatred of muslims so they will return to the caliphate. Those who flee the caliphate for Europe are seems as disbelievers.

While I see all these endless foreign policy blunders are central to the problems in the Middle East, the cat is out of the proverbial bag. ISIS is different to al qaeda in that getting rid of the western powers from the middle east is not a big part of their ideology. They've let this baby monster bloom and not foreseen the consequences. Now we all have to deal with it. And sickeningly, western powers use the terrorism and deaths to pass further restrictive laws they'd never get passed without atrocities; the shock doctrine in effect.

Do not forget the long debate I had upthread where I explained with strong evidence that the Israel's Mussod was the likely perpetrator of 9/11.

Also re-read my prior post as I added several relevant blog posts from Armstrong to our information set.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Note that Europe (and the rest of the world) embraced humanism

Unless at least some EU countries can make Iceland-style revolution happen in 2 months, including driving the occupation force away, I will have to agree with you that the people here are clueless, and they have learned nothing from the tragedy of 9/11 and the loss of the liberties in the U.S.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: TPTB_need_war on November 21, 2015, 12:43:37 PM
Note that Europe (and the rest of the world) embraced humanism

Unless at least some EU countries can make Iceland-style revolution happen in 2 months, including driving the occupation force away, I will have to agree with you that the people here are clueless, and they have learned nothing from the tragedy of 9/11 and the loss of the liberties in the U.S.

Please re-read my long post again. And listen to the linked YouTube. Russia is not benevolent. The people-at-large are embracing humanism (even the Puritans did, it is a repeating aspect of human nature). Period.

Rather than embracing humanism by trying to determine which of men are good and which are evil, which is just evil humanism...

Work for the only certain truth. The only certain truth is that we are not in control. Embrace serendipity. Learn to be not vested in a perspective. Take what nature gives and synergize with it to benefit the most people. This is life. We are not in control. All those "normal people" (who think they are rational because of their misapplication of the notion of science and Occam's razor) who wish terrorism is real so they don't have to admit that the people (as in ourselves) have created (vested in) a clusterfuck of promises to themselves (ourselves) are just in denial and will perish for it.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: TPTB_need_war on November 21, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
I really don't want to get off on philosophical tangents again, but at least let me repeat the summary I made to my gf about this matter.

Essentially man gets bound up in wanting to point a finger between good and evil, so as to protect one's own vested interests. Men want to think they've accomplished something and thus for example the desire to blame terrorists rather than just admit that all governance at any level is corrupt. And the larger the government, the more power and the more corrupt. Period.

The Lord said this in 1 Samuel 8 according to the Bible (believe in a God or not, my point is only that the principle is contained therein).

So Risto, I think you've still got to learn to lose your European humanism (the concept that some group is good and another is the evil invader) and join use tribal folks here in the Philippines (or my American Cherokee ancestors) who seemed to better appreciate that we only own our moments and memories and not the land nor the future.

The EU (and Euro) was created as grand idealism of the triumph over man over nature (to end wars, etc). Thus its clusterfuck was assured from the start and the starry-eyed culpability of the population-at-large is undeniable.

So I told my gf, don't worry about any of it. Just live your life for each day and do the best you can. We are not in control. I contrasted how a decade ago the challenge for filipinos was no hope of escaping severe poverty and now there are opportunities to work abroad, but this comes with new opportunities including a globalist world that is headed towards some clusterfuck scenarios, yet there will be opportunities. So carpe diem!

For myself, I need to accept I am not in control and anything I do is fleeting because the future of nature must be freedom (degrees-of-freedom). Easier to say than do.

Edit: The most fundamental law of science (according to Einstein), the Second Law of Thermodynamics requires that the overall trend of the universe it towards maximum entropy (i.e. disorder). Man has a bias to prefer order over disorder, where disorder means more diversely distributed probabilities for outcomes. Thus the assumptions that large governments are not corrupt and that ubiquitous Big T is real and not a false flag is counter to the notion that larger things are inherently too ordered and a disordered explanation is more probable, i.e. the total misapplication of Occam's Razor by Evildave up thread. One might retort by claiming that since a large government is too ordered, then it is more probably a government couldn't organize such things, but the fact is that you see the people choosing the ordered explanation from the government, thus the Coasian barrier sustains the humanism and misapplication of Occam's Razor until it fails in a Waterfall effect as the truth and disorder (the Minsky Moment) punches through the inertial barrier.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rangedriver on November 21, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
A god is merely a word that describes any concious entity that has absolute freedom - that is to say the ability to do anything, including designing their own universes. Solipsistically, we're all eternal by way of the fact that it's impossible for us to experience nothingness, hence we can only ever experience somethingness, thus we're eternal. Given that eternity is not just an existence without end, but crucially without beginning, it is reasonable to assume that we, as eternal beings, have already experienced every permutation of existence possible to experience, including that of a God, and given that a God cannot be over-powered, it is reasonable to assume that we exist as humans on earth voluntarily. Thus life on Earth can be considered a form of entertainment: A holiday away from being God.

In any event, Gods are not something to be worshipped. Fuck gods.

As for Paris, the experienced mind will know this as a Zionist attack - it is about as obvious as it gets. The perpetrators were most likely captagon addicts (Fenethylline) as well as being disillusioned wannabe Muslims with a low IQ. Where you have retards in the company of geniuses, you have the opportunity for exploitation. The lower the IQ of the retards, and the higher the IQ of the geniuses, the greater the exploitation and control. Add a heavy dose of captagon addiction, and it's defacto mind control. Pretty much all reports of ISIS are no different. Isolated groups of retards and mercenaries carrying huge bags of captagon around with them wherever they go, high without pain or fear, bizarrely spiritual delusions of grandeur, popping pills every 5 or 6 hours. Overseen, guided and financed always of course, by their Tel Aviv based watchers.

If nothing else Islamic terrorism is not a thing, and it never has been a thing. Whether you want to talk about the King David Hotel bombings of 1946, the West Berlin discotheque bombings of 1986, Lockerbie, 9/11 New York attacks, 3/11 Madrid attacks, 7/7 London Attacks or these recent attacks in Paris. All of these attacks can be linked back to Israel or other forces that support political zionism, or the much crazier messianic zionism.

I've spent almost 14 years researching 9/11, and anyone who does the same, and who is good at what they do will come to the same conclusion.

The trouble is that the majority of Americans and Europeans (and other proxy Western nations) are all fucking brainwashed. They haven't got a clue what's going on. Not a clue.

And seeing as that's not going to change for a very long time....RIP world.

Happy Saturday everyone!


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: dloghwak on November 21, 2015, 02:20:39 PM
All of these attacks can be linked back to Israel or other forces that support political zionism, or the much crazier messianic zionism.
It gets better and better, not sure if this is the next level of pure awesomness trolling or just retarded as fuck.
Either way this thread is pure comedy gold.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rangedriver on November 21, 2015, 02:41:22 PM
All of these attacks can be linked back to Israel or other forces that support political zionism, or the much crazier messianic zionism.
It gets better and better, not sure if this is the next level of pure awesomness trolling or just retarded as fuck.
Either way this thread is pure comedy gold.

Hey friend. I'd like to debate this with you on Skype. I'm always happy to hear counterpoint perspectives and always keen to converse with people who are more knowledgeable than myself.

Let's do video chat on Skype. I have around 75000 XMR, 100 BTC, and a spattering of altcoin funds.

You can have it all if you're able to sustain a 30-minute videochat and present a meaningful counterpoint.

I'd will upload the debate onto Youtube if I may.

I'd like to start with the differences between political zionism and messianic zionism, and we can move onto Israeli involvement in 9/11 after that? Deal?


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 03:22:54 PM
To place OP's ideas in context:
- I am currently located in a closed mental institution run by the City of Helsinki, with 1-2 weeks to get out hopefully
... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg2489925#msg2489925)

Yes, and now I have in the last 48 hours both rejected holocaust and posted public my ideas about how to overthrow the treasonous government of Finland. If ever my account turns sheep again, remember that it's the only way to get out of the institutions of chemical mindcontrol terror.

By the way it took 6 weeks last time, instead of two... But I think my neuroplasticity has improved I will instinctively know how to turn sheep in a shorter time this time. It is also possible that an ordinary prison is the way to go. I don't believe in accidents - they already know it would radicalize people a bit too much. I may be an important thought leader now, but it they cut me away, instead of one, we will have 10 important thought leaders - so many people know the same (and are even better in their deed) but are dormant now because of not feeling the existential threat that compels them to act.

I don't trust anyone who provably has not been to prison or received other blows for his thinking.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: makeacake on November 21, 2015, 03:36:21 PM
To place OP's ideas in context:
- I am currently located in a closed mental institution run by the City of Helsinki, with 1-2 weeks to get out hopefully
... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg2489925#msg2489925)

Yes, and now I have in the last 48 hours both rejected holocaust and posted public my ideas about how to overthrow the treasonous government of Finland. If ever my account turns sheep again, remember that it's the only way to get out of the institutions of chemical mindcontrol terror.

By the way it took 6 weeks last time, instead of two... But I think my neuroplasticity has improved I will instinctively know how to turn sheep in a shorter time this time. It is also possible that an ordinary prison is the way to go. I don't believe in accidents - they already know it would radicalize people a bit too much. I may be an important thought leader now, but it they cut me away, instead of one, we will have 10 important thought leaders - so many people know the same (and are even better in their deed) but are dormant now because of not feeling the existential threat that compels them to act.

I don't trust anyone who provably has not been to prison and received blows for his thinking.

I'm starting to realize that all the mental patients, especially paranoid schizophrenics with delusions of grandeur, are actually the only sane people on this planet. This is a totally original notion that I just came up with. It really blew me away!

http://artragegallery.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/King-of-Hearts-gate.png

*Also quoted for future lel.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: EvilDave on November 21, 2015, 03:37:09 PM
Now we're in wtf territory......


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: dloghwak on November 21, 2015, 04:48:42 PM
All of these attacks can be linked back to Israel or other forces that support political zionism, or the much crazier messianic zionism.
It gets better and better, not sure if this is the next level of pure awesomness trolling or just retarded as fuck.
Either way this thread is pure comedy gold.

Hey friend. I'd like to debate this with you on Skype. I'm always happy to hear counterpoint perspectives and always keen to converse with people who are more knowledgeable than myself.

Let's do video chat on Skype. I have around 75000 XMR, 100 BTC, and a spattering of altcoin funds.

You can have it all if you're able to sustain a 30-minute videochat and present a meaningful counterpoint.

I'd will upload the debate onto Youtube if I may.

I'd like to start with the differences between political zionism and messianic zionism, and we can move onto Israeli involvement in 9/11 after that? Deal?
That's very generous of you, but please share your wisdom with all of us here on the forums.
You could even record yourself explaining, if you want a youtube video that bad.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rangedriver on November 21, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
That's very generous of you, but please share your wisdom with all of us here on the forums.
You could even record yourself explaining, if you want a youtube video that bad.

So let me get this straight: You're going to turn down 200 BTC because you're not able to provide a counter-argument to something you consider to be 'retarded as fuck.'..?

I'll be ignoring you now because clearly you're a cocksucking pussy.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: dloghwak on November 21, 2015, 05:19:16 PM
^
Will gladly debate you. Any preference re. escrow agent to hold your 200 BTC pending outcome of debate?
+1
No problem with an open debate here at the forums. I feel no need for a video conversation.
The BTC obviously must be hold by an escrow.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Spoetnik on November 21, 2015, 09:02:52 PM
Quote
Edit 2:  The next time you go out count how many security cameras are pointed at you. 1) Those controlled by private businesses 2) Those controlled by governments. Then one finds out who is really doing the spying here.

Sure i know WHO ..do you ?

You do know that that almost all spying on cell phones in the USA is conducted by private business right ?
They are contracted out by the govt.. like massive call centers.
And no this is not a conspiracy theory it's common knowledge verifiable.

A lot of what the US govt. does is farmed out to the public.. they have a spy network setup.. Junior G men ID cards
They trade info and hunt spies etc in conjunction with the FBI..
The FBI main power is probably 2% of the total users.. INFRAGARD !

It doesn't stop there either.. Want to report a UFO to the FAA ?
They advise you to contact a private company run by a millionaire.. they don't want to hear what you have to say.

But at the end of the day America is just like this coin crap.
Sit on your ass and reap the rewards and say and do nothing about wrong doing (as long as it benefits you)
The way the US population + govt works mirrors how the Altcoin scene works.
It always boils down to putting the blame on every one else.
Americans.. you do realize that when George Bush contacted the UN to invade Iraq
they evaluated the reasons why and then returned a NO response right ?
So explain to me how you as a people decide that it's fine to invade another country under the guise of WMD's
Who was it that wanted the UN long ago ?
I guess only when they do what YOU want huh ?
Watch the documentary "The War Generals" and hear all the top US generals speak themselves
and how they all admit going in was a BAD idea and all they accomplished is they ruined the country.
They took down the dictator and left organized crime in charge.. a state of perpetual anarchy.
And the US military admits it !

So we cycle around back to the US getting what it wants.. spying methods on all people everywhere.
Enabled and pushed hard right after 911.. see the vicious cycle ?
A good 60 years of the US having a blank check to romp around the earth fucking with everyone.
then it comes back to haunt them and they play innocent.
And it's all the average users around the globe that suffer..
regardless of where you are (The USA changed the world in 9/11)
Every plane in Canada was grounded on 9/11 in Canada !
I had take a flight in 1998 and i brought with me a pile of weapons and tools etc
I was moving and i owned the stuff and i smoked pot so i had pipes and pocket knives and a diving knife
and a mini screw driver set and scissors and lots of misc stuff.
I also had a bag of stinky weed tucked in my pants LOL
When the girl opened my bag and pulled the knife + pipe out she closed it back up and said.. just go !

Fast forward..
NOW ? I would be doing jail time.. I live in a Police state instituted by the USA.
Thanks to nobody but the Unites States of America.
They affect my way of life with the bullshit stunts they pull.

Donald Rumsfeld was on camera shaking hands with Osama Bin Laden long ago
The same time he was paying them money and weapons to fight the Russians.
Then later when the Russians were chased out of Afghanistan the CIA decided they should murder their Photo Op buddy Bin Laden.
That 1 incident alone should be a wake up call for the US people to step up and take control and responsibility for their govt.
American get a grip on your gun toting bottomless wallet war monger leaders please.
There would have not been a terrorist attack in France had it not been because of America pissing them off.
ISIS took over when the Taliban and Alqueda was beaten down..

And you can't say well i can't control what they do..
If you guys *could have you would have elected G. W. Bush for a 3rd term !


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 09:06:52 PM
Let me summarize:

1. even if keylogging was universally used, it would not be that easy to actually use it to gain complete control of BTC passwords and privkeys.

2. in every thread, there is always a newbie who subscribes to "sufficiently advanced thinking is indistinguishable from magic, and since I don't understand magic, I call it insanity" syndrome, for which remedy exists but is so painful that ignore is the preferred option.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: onemorexmr on November 21, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
Let me summarize:

1. even if keylogging was universally used, it would not be that easy to actually use it to gain complete control of BTC passwords and privkeys.


true, it seems atm there is no way for them to get privkeys for all (or most) users.

but if they want the keys for somebody specific they can do that and have various options (maybe a trezor like device helps; but only until trezor becomes big enough).


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 09:48:25 PM
To: whomever feels this is addressed to him

Occam's razor means that the simplest solution that you can comprehend feels the right one. And I feel sorry for the level of your brain function if that seems to be the most acceptable solution to you.

It is like if you know chess, you can enjoyably watch the move of pieces when other people are playing. You see the reason behind the moves. But if you don't know chess, you cannot appreciate it. And if your brain function is sufficiently far from the chess players level, your occam's razor may start to produce results like "they must be insane to look in front of themselves for hours and make meaningless moves."

You know - you also watch TV and don't think it looks insane..  ::) Well it not only looks such, but also is insane and makes you stupid. You were not born stupid (I hope so at least). But in this environment, becoming numb and stupid and losing your sense of - well - anything, does not take conscious action, or even conscious inaction. It happens automatically if you never think why you are here, or if it is really smart to dump MSG, F, and HFCS to your body.

I wonder what makes you believe that between stints of government confiscating my stuff and accusing me of tax crimes, financial crimes, thought crimes, throwing me to mental facility, bookkeeping crimes, I have still managed to amass several million$, without rich parents. I probably have several rooms in my castle each larger than your apartment, and for sure I have more money in my pocket than you make in a year.

If you seriously thought me to be insane, you should probably try out as well, because these are the things you care about, right? Money and raw power (yes my car is 6.0 litre 439 hp). Too bad I don't care too much about them, and it seems you are not very close to the minimum level required to understand what I care about. But reading this thread might give you a glimpse. I did not intend this to be closely guarded self-mod thread, after all I only had a simple question concerning keylogging. It is unlikely that organized trolls should appear here, as there is nothing to sabotage really, and I can pwn them any time I have a little extra time.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: makeacake on November 21, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
If you seriously thought me to be insane, you should probably try out as well, because these are the things you care about, right? Money and raw power (yes my car is 6.0 litre 439 hp). Too bad I don't care too much about them

Shit Reptilia don't care about (along with overpriced cigars, 2004 Dom Pérignon, and other status symbols accessible only to him and other trailer trash):

http://s17.postimg.org/m34pomhnz/rep.jpg

Reptilia Evolving, next to his 6.0 litre 439 hp fire breathin' monster, in Paris.

http://s30.postimg.org/5u3817l8h/aaaa.jpg

It's about Truth! And Freedoms!


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 10:16:48 PM
I was kindly trying to explain that the fact that you feel so insanely jealous, is proof of your insanity, not mine.

The limo picture is before the nuthouse detour. The castle is afterwards. You should try, it might spin you to a whole new level of awesomeness, perhaps even buying such a big castle that you still haven't even visited all the rooms, 2 years after buying  :D

Warning: continued writing stuff to this thread may make casual observers think that you are really dumb. (I mean I know it, and you as well, but who would think of the children...  :'( )


OTHERS: Sorry for this sudden turn of events. rpietila hating is like pogroms. It just flames with no obvious direct reason.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: makeacake on November 21, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
I was kindly trying to explain that the fact that you feel so insanely jealous, is proof of your insanity, not mine.

The limo picture is before the nuthouse detour.

Yup. Right before you left your iProduct, with unencripted bitcoin wallets, in a sauna, and proceeded to rage at hotel staff & the rest of the world, which got you institutionalized :)
I'm sorry if my bringing attention to your ...shall we say 'unconventional'? mental state saddens you, but please understand how unbearably funny this shit is to normal people.

It's as if Leroy from the hood won the lottery, and started living like he imagines 'Classy Rich Peaple live :D

Yeah, after consuming 2 bottles of DP 2004 this week, it came to mind that I was drinking the same stuff also when celebrating $100. That was mind-blown, becoming a millionaire by holding virtual money!! ...

What's the PC expression for calling Dom Perignon "DP"? "African_American Rich"?


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 10:59:47 PM
I was kindly trying to explain that the fact that you feel so insanely jealous, is proof of your insanity, not mine.

The limo picture is before the nuthouse detour.

Yup. Right before you left your iProduct, with unencripted bitcoin wallets, in a sauna, and proceeded to rage at hotel staff & the rest of the world, which got you institutionalized :)

You must be in rage yourself that I am not even trying to give in. Yes, they sold the sauna as security room for €1,000, did not deliver, no bitcoins were stolen, I did not need to pay the sauna, I will not visit the hotel again, I was detained for 6 weeks.

*Since only great minds discuss ideas, I moved the 2 paragraphs that were here, to the end of the post as a kind of footnote. They were discussing difficult concepts such as intention and logic, hence it is better they don't needlessly clutter the clearcut talking about things in front of your eyes.

You don't know... And I have moved on to other things but this seems insatiably interesting because it always pops up  :D

As for class, luckily everyone can freely decide which champagne to drink and how to call it. It's a free world after all.

Quote
"African_American Rich"?

Ain't got no problem with Niggahs. You?


*BUT it is also notable that the reason I even organized the whole conference in Haikko was that I had the feeling I would not be admitted to the US. When I anyway booked the tickets after the sabotage, the police intercepted me at the airport. Not just me, we were 5 people scheduled to fly...

Perhaps gitmo would have been my destination if I had been allowed to board the plane. They don't have this thing called freedom of speech there. Calling the administration murderous lying fuckers enemies of all good they are, would actually cause me harm.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: makeacake on November 21, 2015, 11:11:53 PM
I was kindly trying to explain that the fact that you feel so insanely jealous, is proof of your insanity, not mine.

The limo picture is before the nuthouse detour.

Yup. Right before you left your iProduct, with unencripted bitcoin wallets, in a sauna, and proceeded to rage at hotel staff & the rest of the world, which got you institutionalized :)

You must be in rage yourself that I am not even trying to give in. Yes, they sold the sauna as security room for €1,000, did not deliver, no bitcoins were stolen, I did not need to pay the sauna, I will not visit the hotel again, I was detained for 6 weeks.

BUT it is also notable that the reason I even organized the whole conference in Haikko was that I had the feeling I would not be admitted to the US. When I anyway booked the tickets after the sabotage, the police intercepted me at the airport. Not just me, we were 5 people scheduled to fly...

Hahahahaha not a paranoiac cliche at all :D

http://s30.postimg.org/5ja47a2ip/boo_Rarity.gif O0oooooo! http://the-trumpet-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/helicopter.jpghttp://zapatopi.net/blackhelicopters/bhchart.png
...
Quote
Quote
"African_American Rich"?

Ain't got no problem with Niggahs. You?

The word is niggers. Niggers. And you're what's colloquially referred to as "nigger rich." It's like nouveau riche, but more embarrassingly obvious.
I know you got no problem with them, it's those Saurian Bankster Jews who've been oppressing your lily ass.
<cue "not Jooz, Zionists and The Elders Of Zion!!">


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 21, 2015, 11:33:10 PM
The last one was so lame I don't know what to reply. The thread is also pretty much fully sabotaged, so if anything, gives me the conviction that if even a little more important topic is at hand, self-moderation is the only way to keep away the fans who endlessly want to talk about my cars, castles, champagne, cigars and other cweet things in life...


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: makeacake on November 22, 2015, 12:10:40 AM
^
I'm sorry to derail another batshit crazy attention whoring quality Reptilia thread. Let's see if I could get it back on track.

Teach us, be our eyes, for you are Awake while we sleep!
And whatever you do, don't let them blind you to The Truth by taking your antipsychotics/mood stabilizers as [they] prescribed.
Save us from Saurian Bankster Jews, Reptilia. You're our only hope!

http://media.salon.com/2015/08/They-Live.jpghttp://150597036.r.cdn77.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/they9.jpg

I am disgusted of the scripted nature of Paris attacks. To a casual observer it is nearing 100% false flag, based on the usual tells:

- terrorist drill at the same time
- official death toll (129) widely off from the "number of people who actually lost their life and are confirmed dead as a result" (seen 1, may be more)
- no footage available, or very conflicting vs. official story
- special forces used
- immediate press and public response ready incl only hours to light up all the world monuments in colors.
- immediate human rights curtailments put in place, and directed against people who were the victims, not the purported let alone actual perpetrators.
- measures taken (gun control, surveillance) increase the vulnerability of the people against such attacks in the future.

So this lead me to think that since keylogging is already a feature in most devices and will become mandatory in the future, how can we retain any usefulness of cryptosystems, because to me an important basic is that I hold the keys, and the false-flagging-terrorist-"government" does not hold them?

In 1980s I did not so much care that government had access to my bank account since they had a track record of being largely supporting of the rule of law, and no random or violent action towards own people. Now the tables have been turned - leading politicians in EU are not hesitant anymore to be publicly acknowledged as traitors and terrorists, and shooting own people in a theatre and taking off their rights as a result, with straight face, is sickening. That people accept it instead of returning sanity to the government by telling that their inability to protect the people should lead to more guns and liberties in the hands of people, rather than less, is symptomatic of a people pampered to their demise.

I honestly believed the US would be the first to fall, but perhaps the rougher and less civilized culture there is more dangerous to deal with, and takes more time to thoroughly corrupt and destroy.

But as to the main point - are there any technologies that allow you to store and move value online so that nothing you ever type on your keyboard can be used to decipher access codes that allow the transfer of more value in the future? How does that work?

Or should I forsake crypto and move on to evangelism, at least that IS useful in defeating evil  Grin
...
Yes, and now I have in the last 48 hours both rejected holocaust and posted public my ideas about how to overthrow the treasonous government of Finland. If ever my account turns sheep again, remember that it's the only way to get out of the institutions of chemical mindcontrol terror.

By the way it took 6 weeks last time, instead of two... But I think my neuroplasticity has improved I will instinctively know how to turn sheep in a shorter time this time. It is also possible that an ordinary prison is the way to go. I don't believe in accidents - they already know it would radicalize people a bit too much. I may be an important thought leader now, but it they cut me away, instead of one, we will have 10 important thought leaders - so many people know the same (and are even better in their deed) but are dormant now because of not feeling the existential threat that compels them to act.

I don't trust anyone who provably has not been to prison or received other blows for his thinking.

P.S. Bonus points for calling that derelict abandoned mental hospital in the middle of nowhere that some unscrupulous huckster unloaded on you a 'castle' :D


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: EvilDave on November 22, 2015, 12:26:59 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_21341_5-ways-every-conspiracy-theory-makes-world-worse.html

 Free your mind and your ass will follow.... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5xDFjpg2oA)


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: trollercoaster on November 22, 2015, 12:27:55 AM
pink!!? whenever I see that photo I think Bond villain..  :D


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 22, 2015, 12:29:36 AM
Congratulations for a fresh new account! Oh, wait... why don't I have an urge to change account every month?  ???

Are they even paying you $1 per hour? Consider playing my new MMORPG, Crypto Kingdom, you will earn more per hour and it is also more fun!

If you are from Pakistan, I admire at least you have some culture there. But if from that cradle of ignorance, Untitled States, just google Mayflower (some say it was sort of starter for your national existence) and wait a moment and realize that my castle existed 400 years before that   ::) :o ;D

Please everyone who follows the thread hands up if you find trouncing the troll even a little amusing. Cause if not, I'll stop. And besides it is so cold here anyway that my flight to Thailand is leaving tomorrow...


* And at the time of Mayflower, the castle was owned by Reichsmarschall** Gustav Horn of Åminne

**Cabinet Minister


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: makeacake on November 22, 2015, 12:53:41 AM
^
ZOMG, Flight to Thailand!!1! They totally won't laugh at your there! Listen, here's an idea:
Rent a 70s Rolls, and maybe dress up in those high-style two-tone wingtips of yours?  And that nice matching ex-rental tux (for extra Touch of Class, make sure not to sleep in it this time), invite a bunch of other visionaries to get nekid with you & your iProduct in a sauna and then ...well, you know what comes next. Bankster Joos in Black Helicopters and Six months of Peeze and Welaxation! (https://bitcointalk.org/YtZ0B5jpkrM)

http://s17.postimg.org/m34pomhnz/rep.jpg

Look Ma, I's farting through silk!

*Plz don't be too harsh on US for not letting your creepy ass in. Nothing could be done, you see -- we have standards, protect our boarders and keep undesirables out :(


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 22, 2015, 01:10:48 AM
Of course if every post nets you $1, I understand you. I also worked for living when I was a kid...

... but just in the off chance that you really post the pictures without even getting paid, don't forget that:

Since you first posted them under a different account that probably was banned or too universally ignored, and before now, I have

- Earned millions of dollars
- Bought a castle complex of 12 buildings and 127 acres of land
- The castle has been featured in a movie and I got 5-figure$ just for the privilege
- I have only owned the best cars, only have relations to the most beautiful woman
- Chosen to be among 50 most influential bitcoiners in the world
- Found Monero, founded CryptoKingdom
- The latter marketcap is nearing $1 million, I am majority owner
- Increased in wisdom and understanding
- Got more kids


I don't know if you can show any progress in your life. Hopefully you can. Life is short. The main benefit you can get of trolling are the responses I write to you. If they weren't useful, I would not write. I am here to give. I don't need to take anything from you, it is evident I have enough.

Wake up and realize that during the time of your trolling, which is a fleeting moment, I am becoming richer and wiser in every possible way, and I can only wish that it would apply to you as well.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: makeacake on November 22, 2015, 01:23:54 AM
^Lol, such understatement and humility. Definitely no hilariously exaggerated sense of self-importance or delusions of grandeur here, nope! So... Pretty impressive list of accomplishments there, a 6.0 litre 439 hp ride *and* you spawned again. Congrats!                               You sure it's yours?
Because... oh, let's not concern ourselves with reasons behind a woman of breeding age staying married to a balding embarrassment of a rabidly paranoid mental patient.          Ahem.  Pardon, "Bitcoin and Monero Economist.                    Who also has millions of $$$.
I'm sure it's love :)

P.S. Now that I think about it, maybe it's the "bad boy" thing? I mean, all the governments and Bankster Joos are out to get you, but they ain't got you yet!
How sexy is that?

http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/1291686.jpg


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: Spoetnik on November 22, 2015, 01:42:57 AM
It's sad you identify your self worth and success as a person with money and objects.
i think you have been hood winked by the media into this.

Want to know how i measure my life ?
I know when my life flashes before my eyes i will think of the regrets and the proud moments.
A key part of that would be have you touched peoples lives in a positive way.
When i am gone those are the things people will remember me by.. not how much money i had.

The difference between me and you reptiela is i couldn't care less about money really.
I was told as teen i was left an inheritance i never tracked down nor would i.
I also have Grandparents who started a Winery in Canada that had an estimated worth
i think of about 5 million before i was born in 1975.. They had sold it i heard for how much i don't know.
I won't take a penny from them and i have not taken them up on the job offer i got in 1993.
Basically i just didn't feel comfortable horning in on their game.. i wanted to start my own.

And i have !

As a teen i had a sports card trading business i built up from buying a pack of baseball cards at the corner store.
That led me to setting up booths in trades shows from the Pacific ocean to the Atlantic..
Then i got bored and sold it all off.
THEN i started it all over again because i was hungry for the challenge.

I also fixed some friends computer.. 6 years later i was self employed and had a resume
that included the Ramada Hotel chain the BC govt and countless misc business's as well as tons of regular people.
Self employed again.

That is how my family rolls.. My mom a couple years ago closed her restaurant and moved she started.
My last job was for my brothers Stucco company he started.

Pride in a sense of accomplishment.. not a measure of worth written on a bank statement.

I don't value money highly to put simply.
I don't want it *enough* to do the work to get lot's of it.
I am 100% content to live a comfortable life style..no need for excesses like a Bentley or a Castle.

Risto if you are the guy that made that money then prop's to you.. then i am impressed good job !
But i hope you consider what you will remembered for when your gone one day.
All i heard was i got this.. and i got that.. so that means ?

PS:
By the way another start up of mine was Altcoin related.
I took the CPU i have and old nvidia card and turned into around 10 to 12 grand and spent it.

I DID heavily consider going further and re-investing.. BUT !
I seen the tides change ..i could see things were going into a downward trend in crypto and i was right !
I have no regrets on that and i spent every penny on just living comfortable.
There was no parties or crack or hookers LOL

I wonder what guys like you risto would do if you were homeless with out a penny.
I've been there and i win.. i ALWAYS win !

Try making 12 grand from 0 cents invested bud ;)
I can prove it too

Here is a log from late 2013 i was making on Cryptsy..
This showed my portfolio worth i saved.. note: that is not the start or the end.
This just shows i fought for it.. bit by bit.. with hard work !
Turning nothing 0 cents into something !

Quote
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OMFGBBQ!!11 LieK IFC TO da FuKin MOON™
OMFG TO da MOON™

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Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: ArticMine on November 22, 2015, 03:14:48 AM
Well after reading this thread here is an interesting link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door). It is not just about earning 1,000,000 USD or more many people do that, it is about keeping it. I stand by my position that in places such as Europe and North America the secret to wealth lies on the expense side rather than the income side of the ledger.

Just as the secret to personal privacy and freedom lies in saying NO to the sales pitches of major corporations so does the secret to wealth.


Title: Re: How to escape mandatory keylogging
Post by: rpietila on November 22, 2015, 08:27:47 AM
It's sad you identify your self worth and success as a person with money and objects.
The difference between me and you reptiela is i couldn't care less about money really.
I don't value money highly to put simply.
I don't want it *enough* to do the work to get lot's of it.
Risto if you are the guy that made that money then prop's to you.. then i am impressed good job !
I wonder what guys like you risto would do if you were homeless with out a penny.
I've been there and i win.. i ALWAYS win !

That's the hard thing in open internet conversation - it is either not open, or you need to let trolls in.

I think Mircea Popescu used to be the most hated person in the forum, but for years already it has been me. I don't know of anyone with comparable amount of personal slander (it's OK to elucidate me with proof if you know another, after all some claim my grandeur to be delusion  :D ).

I have 5,000+ posts and it's ok to check, money is mentioned quite a few times for the reason that this is a money forum, and my academic field is Economics (major) and that is also my interest and my profession! :) And yeah, it is very much self-made - I hardly had 100k when the government came to confiscate it the first time in 2008. Then they claimed me to be criminal. It was changed to "insane" much later (after several attempts of criminal proceedings had failed to destroy my businesses, a nationwide "sex scandal" was plotted and later these other things - as a result my businesses died, I gave up even trying to work for money in that country, and also relocated).

For those who wonder, let me repeat my words to the 8 armed government goons in my little apartment in 2008-9-19 early in the morning: "I just want to notify you all in the very beginning that I consider the root cause of this action against me to be that I am a human rights activist."

That was before bitcoin existed.

It'd be nice to continue from the original topic, and now it becomes possible from a new self-moderated thread if anyone still cares. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1258652.new#new)