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Title: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: toddtervy on November 21, 2015, 05:23:41 AM
Creating criminals is job security for corrupt, dumbass  police, government agencies, etc in u.s.  How long can an evil trash regime remain in power?


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: toddtervy on November 21, 2015, 05:29:25 AM
The general public doesn't care so much as 1  They like having people to look down upon to feel better about their pathetic lives, and 2 they're too cowardly to do anything about it anyway


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: Dinki on April 20, 2016, 11:54:04 AM
You can't exactly prove that criminals were created by corrupt police and government agencies. They may assist in criminal activities but criminals in most cases choose to be criminals.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: gentlemand on April 20, 2016, 01:19:38 PM
I've known no shortage of dyed in the wool criminals. They were all stupid, greedy, thoughtless and didn't seem to know the meaning of the word consequences. I'm sure they'd be doing their thing no matter what society at large was up to.

There is no doubt an excess of law designed to ensnare otherwise reasonable people, especially in the US, but it seems we might slowly be moving towards sorting out the drug mess.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: onlinedragon on April 20, 2016, 01:27:18 PM
I think that each country in this world have to deal with fraudulent people. Not all people who work for the government are busy with criminal activity. But like always when you have the money to buy all you want there are always people who can't resist big money and be prepared to do some fraud.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: countryfree on April 20, 2016, 07:55:42 PM
"Creating criminals" that's an old one. Some right wing activists did it, pushing up crime, and most important fear of crime, to convince voters they are badly needed to restore order. Most often though, artificial creation of criminals isn't required. Crime just happen.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 08:12:59 PM
You can't exactly prove that criminals were created by corrupt police and government agencies. They may assist in criminal activities but criminals in most cases choose to be criminals.

Can you tell me how you are coming to these threads? Leading question because you are obviously not a new account and I see this behavior a lot when people are farming accounts,just not sure why!


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: spazzdla on April 20, 2016, 08:13:52 PM
For a very very long period of time...

95% of people are complete and utter pussies and like being serfs.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 08:44:28 PM
For a very very long period of time...

95% of people are complete and utter pussies and like being serfs.

This sounds like the way of the warrior. :D

I need to start off by saying I love unions and now the but...they are making this issue bigger by protecting their jobs.
If the prison beds do not fill,the guards are not longer needed and the spin off economy from that alone is big enough to be concerned.
Police are just as bad because its obvious to most people come the end of the month that they are filling their speeding ticket quotas. If you eliminate them as a tax grabber and a bed filler for stupid petty crimes they are not needed to the extent we see today.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: BADecker on April 20, 2016, 08:53:00 PM
Creating criminals is job security for corrupt, dumbass  police, government agencies, etc in u.s.  How long can an evil trash regime remain in power?

The thing that is a crime in the legal world, is not necessarily a crime in the lawful world - in America, Canada, Britain, and Australia, and a few other places around the world. It is only a lawful crime if there is harm or damage done.

The accused needs to require that the accuser get on the stand (in court) and speak into the record under oath, the damage or harm that was done to him by the one accused. The damage or harm must be evident. And there must be a tie-in from the accuser to the one accused... evidence and a witness that the one accused did it.

If the accuser is wrong in his accusation, the accused can require payment in the amount that would have been required from him.

However, if the ignorant person who is accused doesn't know this, he isn't going to require anything from his accuser, and he will lose. The prisons are filled with ignorant people who have been sent there with nobody having been harmed or damaged.

See http://voidjudgments.com/.

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Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 08:56:04 PM
Creating criminals is job security for corrupt, dumbass  police, government agencies, etc in u.s.  How long can an evil trash regime remain in power?

The thing that is a crime in the legal world, is not necessarily a crime in the lawful world - in America, Canada, Britain, and Australia, and a few other places around the world. It is only a lawful crime if there is harm or damage done.

The accused needs to require that the accuser get on the stand (in court) and speak into the record under oath, the damage or harm that was done to him by the one accused. The damage or harm must be evident. And there must be a tie-in from the accuser to the one accused... evidence and a witness that the one accused did it.

If the accuser is wrong in his accusation, the accused can require payment in the amount that would have been required from him.

However, if the ignorant person who is accused doesn't know this, he isn't going to require anything from his accuser, and he will lose. The prisons are filled with ignorant people who have been sent there with nobody having been harmed or damaged.

See http://voidjudgments.com/.

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Jails are full of people that could not make bail,that could not afford a lawyer and the mentally ill.
You take those people out of the system and you see a big drop in the prison population,its not a race issue,its a economic issue.
The facts about the system are also misleading because we are slowly heading more to the guilty now prove innocence model in some aspects of the law.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: vero on April 20, 2016, 09:01:59 PM
So What is the fear all about... ? Actual conviction of the people involved is the right track.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: gentlemand on April 20, 2016, 09:02:09 PM
I'm not so sure about elsewhere, but it's quite clear in the US that many levels of society are incentivised to criminalise as many people as possible. Communities there actually club together to pay for the land to attract prison building. And judges have been busted after being revealed to be stakeholders in the jails they're sending people to. Funnily enough their incarceration rate was abnormally high.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
So What is the fear all about... ? Actual conviction of the people involved is the right track.

A system that does not give people a chance to prove innocence or is set up in a manner that screws the average person is a corrupt system.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: BADecker on April 20, 2016, 09:07:50 PM
Creating criminals is job security for corrupt, dumbass  police, government agencies, etc in u.s.  How long can an evil trash regime remain in power?

The thing that is a crime in the legal world, is not necessarily a crime in the lawful world - in America, Canada, Britain, and Australia, and a few other places around the world. It is only a lawful crime if there is harm or damage done.

The accused needs to require that the accuser get on the stand (in court) and speak into the record under oath, the damage or harm that was done to him by the one accused. The damage or harm must be evident. And there must be a tie-in from the accuser to the one accused... evidence and a witness that the one accused did it.

If the accuser is wrong in his accusation, the accused can require payment in the amount that would have been required from him.

However, if the ignorant person who is accused doesn't know this, he isn't going to require anything from his accuser, and he will lose. The prisons are filled with ignorant people who have been sent there with nobody having been harmed or damaged.

See http://voidjudgments.com/.

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Jails are full of people that could not make bail,that could not afford a lawyer and the mentally ill.
You take those people out of the system and you see a big drop in the prison population,its not a race issue,its a economic issue.
The facts about the system are also misleading because we are slowly heading more to the guilty now prove innocence model in some aspects of the law.

Everyone has his day in court. If he had his head screwed on, he would immediately require that his accuser be sworn in and that he be sworn in as well. This would eliminate all the cases where the plaintiff is the government, because the plaintiff government can't be sworn in. Government is only paperwork, and paperwork can't take the oath or affirmation and get on the stand.

From prison, it is difficult to do anything in law at a later date. In prison, you need to sign paperwork giving a friend or relative the power of attorney for you regarding you false imprisonment. They need to re-open your case, or file a new one, where a harmed or damaged person must come before the court. It is more difficult, but it can be done.

One of the greatest words in law is "property." Let the one in prison sign paperwork that he has been the property of his relative since the two of them were alive. Then, let the relative require his property returned to him, and get a surety bond in case the government is afraid that the one in prison is dangerous to the outside world.

This process for getting a friend or relative out of prison can take as little as two weeks. Remember one thing about this. If you get your friend out, you are responsible for his actions. Don't do it if he is dangerous, or you might wind up in prison for something he does bad after you get him out.

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Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: BADecker on April 20, 2016, 09:09:21 PM
So What is the fear all about... ? Actual conviction of the people involved is the right track.

What are they being convicted of if they haven't harmed or damaged anyone, or even threatened them? The people involved who are doing the harm or damage is the cops.

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Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: BADecker on April 20, 2016, 09:12:25 PM
So What is the fear all about... ? Actual conviction of the people involved is the right track.

A system that does not give people a chance to prove innocence or is set up in a manner that screws the average person is a corrupt system.

The American system isn't like that. Technically anyone can study the basics of law so he is prepared. Start studying now. We should have learned it from our parents.

http://voidjudgments.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10

Once you get the picture of what is going on, it isn't that hard.

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Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: TECSHARE on April 20, 2016, 09:29:56 PM
False positive drug tests. Some of the widely distributed field drug tests commonly used by police test positive when exposed to a variety of non-contraband substances. Some even test positive when only exposed to AIR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXVnmrlKvE


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: BADecker on April 20, 2016, 09:39:49 PM
False positive drug tests. Some of the widely distributed field drug tests commonly used by police test positive when exposed to a variety of non-contraband substances. Some even test positive when only exposed to AIR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXVnmrlKvE

If you test positive when you have done no harm, and the police arrest you, time to make money.

First thing you say is, "Is that an order," any time a cop tells you to do something. If you are doing something violent, he might not answer you but he just might taze you. But if you aren't doing anything violent, it is one person giving another person an order. Take his order and later, after things have settled down, write up an invoice for payment for following his order without cause.

I mean, you give the waitress your order and then you pay her. So, why shouldn't the cop pay you when you take his order? Money time. It might cost you your job if he gets you on the way to work. Get enough out of him or his bond to cover severance pay and all your hardship.

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Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 10:53:09 PM
False positive drug tests. Some of the widely distributed field drug tests commonly used by police test positive when exposed to a variety of non-contraband substances. Some even test positive when only exposed to AIR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXVnmrlKvE

If you test positive when you have done no harm, and the police arrest you, time to make money.

First thing you say is, "Is that an order," any time a cop tells you to do something. If you are doing something violent, he might not answer you but he just might taze you. But if you aren't doing anything violent, it is one person giving another person an order. Take his order and later, after things have settled down, write up an invoice for payment for following his order without cause.

I mean, you give the waitress your order and then you pay her. So, why shouldn't the cop pay you when you take his order? Money time. It might cost you your job if he gets you on the way to work. Get enough out of him or his bond to cover severance pay and all your hardship.

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Did not think you would think this way,you must have never ran a foul of the law as a kid. Otherwise you would know that they can make things worse for you if they want to.
As some one that ran a foul of the law as a kid I know better than to blindly believe in the law and most people believe in it till they get burnt by it. Just the way things go for a lot of aspects of life.


Title: Re: Creating criminals is job security for corrupt police, government agencies, etc.
Post by: BADecker on April 21, 2016, 12:24:01 AM
False positive drug tests. Some of the widely distributed field drug tests commonly used by police test positive when exposed to a variety of non-contraband substances. Some even test positive when only exposed to AIR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXVnmrlKvE

If you test positive when you have done no harm, and the police arrest you, time to make money.

First thing you say is, "Is that an order," any time a cop tells you to do something. If you are doing something violent, he might not answer you but he just might taze you. But if you aren't doing anything violent, it is one person giving another person an order. Take his order and later, after things have settled down, write up an invoice for payment for following his order without cause.

I mean, you give the waitress your order and then you pay her. So, why shouldn't the cop pay you when you take his order? Money time. It might cost you your job if he gets you on the way to work. Get enough out of him or his bond to cover severance pay and all your hardship.

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As some one that ran a foul of the law as a kid I know better than to blindly believe in the law and most people believe in it till they get burnt by it. Just the way things go for a lot of aspects of life.

That's true, both as a kid and as an adult. That's why we need to ban together and fight the criminal law enforcement people. After all, you as a kid didn't know enough of the law to fight it properly.

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