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Title: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 23, 2015, 04:41:30 PM Fedex was 1 day early.
I have some down clock numbers freq 400 volts 10.6 watts 596 gh 2209 watts per gh .269 will try 9.5 volts next Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: MCHouston on November 23, 2015, 04:46:09 PM Kind of disappointing, not much of an increase from the stock .284w/gh. Maybe more tweaking will show better numbers.
Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: VirosaGITS on November 23, 2015, 04:49:19 PM Kind of disappointing, not much of an increase from the stock .284w/gh. Maybe more tweaking will show better numbers. I was hoping for a super quiet miner that can down volt greatly for higher efficiency. Sound like sadly the S7 might be the better option for both Area. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 23, 2015, 04:49:33 PM Kind of disappointing, not much of an increase from the stock .284w/gh. Maybe more tweaking will show better numbers. yeah I need to disable smartspeed. oh silent miner it is. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: VirosaGITS on November 23, 2015, 04:51:23 PM Kind of disappointing, not much of an increase from the stock .284w/gh. Maybe more tweaking will show better numbers. yeah I need to disable smartspeed. oh silent miner it is. Is it silent at full speed? With the fan rpm listed by the dev, i was pretty sure these were loud. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: Starin on November 23, 2015, 04:58:39 PM Glad you recieved your miners philip. Notlist3d's video was silent, I mean the miner seem to be silent, but still he reported over 60 dB at 3 foot, its close to S7. What are your recordings?
Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 23, 2015, 05:12:01 PM Glad you recieved your miners philip. Notlist3d's video was silent, I mean the miner seem to be silent, but still he reported over 60 dB at 3 foot, its close to S7. What are your recordings? well I will do that in a few minutes. I can tell I will not be able to do a good undervolt until I can figure out how to turn off smartspeed. that will be in ssh. It does allow for lower volts it can run at 10.2 but I think the smartspeed fucks up tweaking. I will need a good look at ssh to disable it. after a few minutes I will pull the meanwell psu and instead of it put in a quiet psu for sound measurements as for real undervolt measurements anyone that is good with ssh please let me know how to ssh and kill off smart speed i have it red high lighted the 4.1 avalon's let you do it in gui the 6 looks to have it buried in ssh https://i.imgur.com/LXyhCIC.png Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: notlist3d on November 23, 2015, 05:14:11 PM Glad you recieved your miners philip. Notlist3d's video was silent, I mean the miner seem to be silent, but still he reported over 60 dB at 3 foot, its close to S7. What are your recordings? Keep in mine mine were done with a smart phone, so like I said accuracy is not guaranteed. My video I showed it running at 20 percent (default speed on fan). You could make it even quieter if you went to 10 percent and your ambient allowed it. It is not silent but still not bad I have used it for free heat last few day's in my room. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: -droid- on November 23, 2015, 05:27:38 PM yeah ive got one in the living room at stock settings and its tolerable forsure
S7 in the same spot however would have my wife and kids going haywire Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: torepia on November 23, 2015, 05:30:46 PM yeah ive got one in the living room at stock settings and its tolerable forsure S7 in the same spot however would have my wife and kids going haywire Please don't ruin ur marriage and your children's hearing over a few btc :D JK ;) Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: Starin on November 23, 2015, 06:19:24 PM yeah ive got one in the living room at stock settings and its tolerable forsure S7 in the same spot however would have my wife and kids going haywire I kinda plan doing the same thing. Thanks for the heads up guys. Looking forward to philip's noise level review. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 23, 2015, 07:19:30 PM yeah ive got one in the living room at stock settings and its tolerable forsure S7 in the same spot however would have my wife and kids going haywire I kinda plan doing the same thing. Thanks for the heads up guys. Looking forward to philip's noise level review. okay sitting in my den 7 ft from the tv screen and 4 ft from 2 miners. sound level is 57 to 59 db with no effort to make them quiet. if this was 2 s-7's i would be around 75db the fans ramp up and down a bit. I am running them with 2 seasonics and an evga so the psu's are not adding volume . https://i.imgur.com/agedxnX.png Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 23, 2015, 07:22:34 PM I had freq at 500 and fans at 20%
I dropped fans at 15% kept freq at 500 and gear settled well. It is running with 1x seasonic 1200 watt plat and 1x seasonic 1000 watt plat and 1 x evga 1000 watt plat. I am doing 120 volt power and using about 2000 watts for about 6930gh that comes to .288 watts a gh sound levels are around 56db I will photo the temp setup. https://i.imgur.com/HIAEbR7.png Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: RichBC on November 23, 2015, 08:59:15 PM Fedex was 1 day early. I have some down clock numbers freq 400 volts 10.6 watts 596 gh 2209 watts per gh .269 will try 9.5 volts next That is a little disappointing at 0.27J/GH and actually worse that the numbers you quoted at 400MHz & 11.2V in notlist3d thread, which was 0.265J/GH freq 400 volts 11.2 watts 741 2800gh In practice I do not think the 9.5V frequency will have been 400MHZ as I think it will have downclocked to about 315MHz. notlist 3d said you can see the actual frequency in the Cgminer API Log? It may be that "smartspeed" is messing things up, perhaps by seeking zero HW errors? Or it my have just done the best job it could, although I feel that it would be unusual to not see a better improvement with that reduction in voltage? We need more information on how smartspeed works and what it does? Rich Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 23, 2015, 09:05:03 PM Fedex was 1 day early. I have some down clock numbers freq 400 volts 10.6 watts 596 gh 2209 watts per gh .269 will try 9.5 volts next That is a little disappointing at 0.27J/GH and actually worse that the numbers you quoted at 400MHz & 11.2V in notlist3d thread, which was 0.265J/GH freq 400 volts 11.2 watts 741 2800gh In practice I do not think the 9.5V frequency will have been 400MHZ as I think it will have downclocked to about 315MHz. notlist 3d said you can see the actual frequency in the Cgminer API Log? It may be that "smartspeed" is messing things up, perhaps by seeking zero HW errors? Or it my have just done the best job it could, although I feel that it would be unusual to not see a better improvement with that reduction in voltage? We need more information on how smartspeed works and what it does? Rich smart speed seeks to run no hardware errors if it was the same as avalon 4.1 so it will reduce gh too much. at least that is what would happen to 4.1's Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: GenTarkin on November 23, 2015, 09:22:26 PM Fedex was 1 day early. I have some down clock numbers freq 400 volts 10.6 watts 596 gh 2209 watts per gh .269 will try 9.5 volts next That is a little disappointing at 0.27J/GH and actually worse that the numbers you quoted at 400MHz & 11.2V in notlist3d thread, which was 0.265J/GH freq 400 volts 11.2 watts 741 2800gh In practice I do not think the 9.5V frequency will have been 400MHZ as I think it will have downclocked to about 315MHz. notlist 3d said you can see the actual frequency in the Cgminer API Log? It may be that "smartspeed" is messing things up, perhaps by seeking zero HW errors? Or it my have just done the best job it could, although I feel that it would be unusual to not see a better improvement with that reduction in voltage? We need more information on how smartspeed works and what it does? Rich smart speed seeks to run no hardware errors if it was the same as avalon 4.1 so it will reduce gh too much. at least that is what would happen to 4.1's Thats some retarded ass logic on the firmwares part! Nearly any chip will spit out errors over time no matter what voltage its at. They should look for keeping errors under a certain running % ... not 0 LOL! No wonder the units got clocked down too far! I think thats how fucking SP20's work too... Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 23, 2015, 11:08:30 PM Fedex was 1 day early. I have some down clock numbers freq 400 volts 10.6 watts 596 gh 2209 watts per gh .269 will try 9.5 volts next That is a little disappointing at 0.27J/GH and actually worse that the numbers you quoted at 400MHz & 11.2V in notlist3d thread, which was 0.265J/GH freq 400 volts 11.2 watts 741 2800gh In practice I do not think the 9.5V frequency will have been 400MHZ as I think it will have downclocked to about 315MHz. notlist 3d said you can see the actual frequency in the Cgminer API Log? It may be that "smartspeed" is messing things up, perhaps by seeking zero HW errors? Or it my have just done the best job it could, although I feel that it would be unusual to not see a better improvement with that reduction in voltage? We need more information on how smartspeed works and what it does? Rich smart speed seeks to run no hardware errors if it was the same as avalon 4.1 so it will reduce gh too much. at least that is what would happen to 4.1's Thats some retarded ass logic on the firmwares part! Nearly any chip will spit out errors over time no matter what voltage its at. They should look for keeping errors under a certain running % ... not 0 LOL! No wonder the units got clocked down too far! I think thats how fucking SP20's work too... yeah give me a little more time today. I will clone the sd card for a back up try poking around in ssh a little bit on my own. It is annoying as it was running on 11.5 ,11 ,10.5, 10.2, and 9.6 never crashed just keep downclocking the freq automatically . so when I would volts hash would drop 10 minutes later. the good thing is this is fixable someone will come up with smart speed disabled and you will be able to save . Now on the good side my psu can do 13volts and the smart speed will auto over clock these can run over 4000gh no problem and they don't run hot like the sp20 did. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: -droid- on November 23, 2015, 11:10:18 PM ive got 3 running at 3250gh.. wondering if its my PSU situation.. im going to mess around a bit more with them
voltage is around 11.9-12.1 Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: thebonenz on November 23, 2015, 11:52:42 PM Thanks Phillip! Looks like the results weren't as expected but glad you are still trying!
Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 24, 2015, 05:01:35 AM Thanks Phillip! Looks like the results weren't as expected but glad you are still trying! ahh I got tired setting them up. Then I broke a tooth eating dinner so off to the dentist on tues. To be able to fully ssh and find the file for smart speed then disable it.. then try freq 400 with 11 volts is the goal. And it looks like black friday or later before I know for sure. right now I am running with 2 seasonic plats. at freq 480 https://i.imgur.com/BDlPpMD.png Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: sabercatt on November 24, 2015, 02:22:37 PM ive got 3 running at 3250gh.. wondering if its my PSU situation.. im going to mess around a bit more with them voltage is around 11.9-12.1 ive got 1 out of 5 running at 3250, the other 4 at 3.55-3.7. I'm going to try to bump the voltage on that one to bring it in line with the others. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: RichBC on November 24, 2015, 05:54:18 PM yeah give me a little more time today. I will clone the sd card for a back up try poking around in ssh a little bit on my own. It is annoying as it was running on 11.5 ,11 ,10.5, 10.2, and 9.6 never crashed just keep downclocking the freq automatically . so when I would volts hash would drop 10 minutes later. the good thing is this is fixable someone will come up with smart speed disabled and you will be able to save . Now on the good side my psu can do 13volts and the smart speed will auto over clock these can run over 4000gh no problem and they don't run hot like the sp20 did. So the good news is that it runs down to as low as 9.6V, just need a fix as to why it seems to be turning the frequency down too much? Was 9.6V as low as it would run or as low as your PSU would go? Rich Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: r00tdude on November 25, 2015, 02:35:39 PM Just an FYI, my Avalon 6 arrived yesterday with a bad hashing board (one of the two). I'm told that it's one of the two first units that has had a similar problem and RMA is being honored... no advance exchange, but it's a send it back and they'll send me a new one when they receive it deal. When the PSU is connected to both boards, it spins up for a moment, but dies after two fan runs. When the PSU is attached to the bad hash board, the PSU shuts down immediately.
Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on November 25, 2015, 02:47:31 PM yeah give me a little more time today. I will clone the sd card for a back up try poking around in ssh a little bit on my own. It is annoying as it was running on 11.5 ,11 ,10.5, 10.2, and 9.6 never crashed just keep downclocking the freq automatically . so when I would volts hash would drop 10 minutes later. the good thing is this is fixable someone will come up with smart speed disabled and you will be able to save . Now on the good side my psu can do 13volts and the smart speed will auto over clock these can run over 4000gh no problem and they don't run hot like the sp20 did. So the good news is that it runs down to as low as 9.6V, just need a fix as to why it seems to be turning the frequency down too much? Was 9.6V as low as it would run or as low as your PSU would go? Rich https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/rsp1500.pdf new firmware is out for the avalon 6 https://ehash.com/new-mm-firmware-released-for-avalonminer-6-0-hardware-model-mm-60-version-601511-f4f59c70/ it addresses max volts allowed 12.8 volts Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: RichBC on November 25, 2015, 02:59:27 PM new firmware is out for the avalon 6 https://ehash.com/new-mm-firmware-released-for-avalonminer-6-0-hardware-model-mm-60-version-601511-f4f59c70/ it addresses max volts allowed 12.8 volts Wonder if the firmware will do anything for the Undervolted performance? As a matter of interest is a firmware upgrade done like on the Antminer from within the console or do you have to replace files? Rich Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: -droid- on November 25, 2015, 03:03:56 PM New firmware dropped my hashrate by 100gh
Even overnight it didn't really improve anything The one unit I flashed runs at 3450gh with the avg being at 3300gh.. Running on a single Seasonic 1200w plat Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: RichBC on November 25, 2015, 04:37:27 PM I am beginning to have my doubts about whether SmartSpeed is actually that smart, or if it's just getting in the way of a good old fashioned check the HW error rate & adjust either the voltage or frequency for an acceptable level? Perhaps rather than a hack Canaan-Creative could be persuaded to do a manual version?
Rich Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: notlist3d on November 25, 2015, 05:12:20 PM New firmware dropped my hashrate by 100gh Even overnight it didn't really improve anything The one unit I flashed runs at 3450gh with the avg being at 3300gh.. Running on a single Seasonic 1200w plat This is part of reason I think having a RPI as a controller is a huge advantage. On a lot of miners that would be a pain to go back, and reset settings and such.. But with using the RPI you just need to backk it up... and re flash sd card. This is part of why I think RPI beats custom controllers. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: -droid- on November 25, 2015, 05:33:25 PM New firmware dropped my hashrate by 100gh Even overnight it didn't really improve anything The one unit I flashed runs at 3450gh with the avg being at 3300gh.. Running on a single Seasonic 1200w plat This is part of reason I think having a RPI as a controller is a huge advantage. On a lot of miners that would be a pain to go back, and reset settings and such.. But with using the RPI you just need to backk it up... and re flash sd card. This is part of why I think RPI beats custom controllers. well they only released new mm.mcs firmware.. not the controller firmware so it's easy to reflash back to an older mm.mcs without having to backup the sdcard and reflash but i agree, the pi's are a good thing to have honestly though i dont think this new mm.mcs did crap, they need to give us the option to turn off smartspeed Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on January 22, 2016, 05:20:34 AM I am beginning to have my doubts about whether SmartSpeed is actually that smart, or if it's just getting in the way of a good old fashioned check the HW error rate & adjust either the voltage or frequency for an acceptable level? Perhaps rather than a hack Canaan-Creative could be persuaded to do a manual version? Rich Well after running the two units at 12.2 gui and 12.7 gui for about two months I burned one unit. Posted a photo on it and I think this covers the last of the Avalon threads, The max gui volts should read is 12.2 volts Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: HerbPean on January 22, 2016, 06:48:48 AM Just plugged mine into one of my DPS-2000BB. (I'm missing one c19-c20 cable for the second PSU) I had 12.17 volts without any device connected and now having 12.06 with the Avalon and 1 S1.
GUI showing 11.9 volt running The extra 0.1-0.2 (12.1 and 12.2) seems to push it to 3.5-3.7TH. Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: philipma1957 on January 23, 2016, 01:44:15 AM Just plugged mine into one of my DPS-2000BB. (I'm missing one c19-c20 cable for the second PSU) I had 12.17 volts without any device connected and now having 12.06 with the Avalon and 1 S1. GUI showing 11.9 volt running The extra 0.1-0.2 (12.1 and 12.2) seems to push it to 3.5-3.7TH. AND DO NOT go higher then the 12.1-12.2 3.5 to 3.7th Oh some okay news see quotes I wonder if maybe it could just be defective and since you overvolt it, you would assume that was the reason. But we will never know... lol Of course We both know I could have simply lied about it. I could have said I heard a popping sound and smelled magic smoke I do not know how or why it happened. I used the ibm 2980 server psu and sent only 12.2 volts from the psu that read 12.0 volts at the gui. It must be a defective cap. Send me a board. While that would most likely have worked I don't roll like that. In the long run I rather know I did the right thing. This should be noted by all that don't let the gui go over 12.2 volts This avalon6 was one of the two I grabbed from kilo17 on Nov 23 or 24. It ran on the middled volt setting of the dual 2000/4000 psu more often then the high volt setting. Ie 12.5/12.1 3650gh more often then not. 12.75/12.5 3950gh some of the time and this was when it popped. I wish I had read the paperwork better as I thought that the 12.75/12.5 setting was good. Funny thing YAN told me that the gear is like a Honda car so cruise it don't race it. any one that knows me would laugh since I said this time and time again about the Sp-20 only I said it is like a kia forte! ;D Title: Re: My Avalon 6's are in undervolt + down clock results. Post by: HerbPean on January 23, 2016, 02:37:46 AM Just plugged mine into one of my DPS-2000BB. (I'm missing one c19-c20 cable for the second PSU) I had 12.17 volts without any device connected and now having 12.06 with the Avalon and 1 S1. GUI showing 11.9 volt running The extra 0.1-0.2 (12.1 and 12.2) seems to push it to 3.5-3.7TH. Yeah my 11.9 -11.8 (reading 12.07 at my PSU) is 3.333TH in 21 hours. I like it ! I need to open my PSUs next to adjust the Voltage. I will think about it. I mean pushing it for 200gh is cool but still not a lot :P I was thinking 12.35. I want to power some SP20 with it too but i have been told there would be no issues with SP20 at that voltage. |
