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Title: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 24, 2015, 02:06:12 PM
Most of us including me we simply dont know how to push our luck when gambling

in this thread i will try to give you some examples about that.
there will be no systems or methods just some random ideas you may use
if you feel a)Lucky , b)you found a fair place to gamble , c) you fight reasonable House edge
d) you have some really SPARE money to spin with

my first example follows with a screenshot - for anyone known how to calculate post me how long the
odds was -- is auto play 50 repetitions only -- its when luck GOD goes crazy

i call it turbo-Martingale on profits , usually we play this system for tiny gains
notice the increase on win is 300% this means simply "if i win 4x bet next spin"

http://snag.gy/d9ato.jpg

<Estevan492> welcome comments ,ideas and pms anytime !
more to come if i see a bit of activity :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: LuckyYOU on November 24, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Nice strategy, this might help some people out before they place a bet.

I'd like to see more of this  :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: mexxer-2 on November 24, 2015, 02:20:23 PM
Only difference from normal martingale is you lose your money faster in this stratergy, the only way you can stay in profit is by not betting at all.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 24, 2015, 02:25:10 PM
Only difference from normal martingale is you lose your money faster in this stratergy, the only way you can stay in profit is by not betting at all.

think about that twice -- you bet 4x only after win , wins with payout of 82x not happening too often ,so its cheaper than
many known systems :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Slark on November 24, 2015, 02:27:35 PM
Martingale is not working under normal circumstances, without infinite bankroll it is as good a blind bet. Any variation of this system (reverse martingale, etc.) has the same flaws.
Other ways of gamble: feeling lucky, good casino - are just a form of superstition imo.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: mexxer-2 on November 24, 2015, 02:27:55 PM
Only difference from normal martingale is you lose your money faster in this stratergy, the only way you can stay in profit is by not betting at all.

think about that twice -- you bet 4x only after win , wins with payout of 82x not happening too often ,so its cheaper than
many known systems :)

In case you start forgetting, numbers are totally random, this is no better than reverse martingale which is worse than martingale. You can have a long win streak and a loss in the end, and no wins at all after that, until you lose your bankroll


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 24, 2015, 02:30:03 PM
Most of us including me we simply dont know how to push our luck when gambling

in this thread i will try to give you some examples about that.
there will be no systems or methods just some random ideas you may use
if you feel a)Lucky , b)you found a fair place to gamble , c) you fight reasonable House edge
d) you have some really SPARE money to spin with


my first example follows with a screenshot - for anyone known how to calculate post me how long the
odds was -- is auto play 50 repetitions only -- its when luck GOD goes crazy

i call it turbo-Martingale on profits , usually we play this system for tiny gains
notice the increase on win is 300% this means simply "if i win 4x bet next spin"

http://snag.gy/d9ato.jpg

<Estevan492> welcome comments ,ideas and pms anytime !
more to come if i see a bit of activity :)


i set conditions about when you play like that - its not for everyday use :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: PvP on November 24, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
Most of us including me we simply dont know how to push our luck when gambling

in this thread i will try to give you some examples about that.
there will be no systems or methods just some random ideas you may use
if you feel a)Lucky , b)you found a fair place to gamble , c) you fight reasonable House edge
d) you have some really SPARE money to spin with


my first example follows with a screenshot - for anyone known how to calculate post me how long the
odds was -- is auto play 50 repetitions only -- its when luck GOD goes crazy

i call it turbo-Martingale on profits , usually we play this system for tiny gains
notice the increase on win is 300% this means simply "if i win 4x bet next spin"

http://snag.gy/d9ato.jpg

<Estevan492> welcome comments ,ideas and pms anytime !
more to come if i see a bit of activity :)


i set conditions about when you play like that - its not for everyday use :)


as you set the conditions how will we know those conditions?

will you teach us? if yes what are you waiting for :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 24, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
the message i like to send is simple ,perhaps i havent find the right aproach so far

when we gamble a bit we always trying to protect our bankroll but that at end is wrong
we have money ,when we make our money chips we dont have money anymore

then we try to make our game easier - we bet against 1.02x odds ROFLCOPTER

the example i posted in OP is simply pushing the other direction

at first payout of a single bet is 80+ most of people playing they cant bet up there
secondly using the 300% increase after win i ask even more hard to come payout

(*a usefull notice here is if i lose the increased bet ,reset on lose will make bet low asap*)

if you are exp gambler with some maths known , you can see the whole setup pushing
to a very hard to get result -- but it happened !!

LESSSON summary : dont fear the dificulty , bet some bets but aiming VERY HIGH.

/bonus story :

i have a friend he likes to play roullete in the 2 casinos near Athens ..
i was with him many times watching his game , for myself i was not playing roullete but a bit of slots
that goes for more than 4 years , i guess my hours as spectator are more than 300 - rofl

around 2013 , onother friend asked me to go with him at Mont-parnes casino for some fun
he was driving and we are talking about how and what we like to play from available casino games
he mentioned roulette , and his style was spreading 10+ chips randomly in the table ,he was
trying to make odds easier ,so i had a feeling for an upcoming posible surprise
we get in the casino - he played some roulette with a bit of loss at end , i played some slots
losing like 50 euros but having my usual dose of excitement :)
we met eachother at front of one bar serving free drinks so i told him to grab a bannana juice
before we leave , those was free anyway LOL
THEN an idea hits me ----> i said to him : i will play fast a 50euro in that roulette there..
he replied : better to get the other roulette of 5euro min this one is 10e ....
i replied to him : i will play it fast so nvm 10e is ok , and at the same time i put 2x10e on A row for 3x
i dont know what number was but they push 4x10e near my chips / stacked them and lost next spin
i took my 3 last chips of 10e and put all at last dozen 25-36 since it was nearest from where i was standing
won once - stacked all 9x10e same place // won twice - stacked 270 worth chips again LOL
my friend was near heart attack so i told him turning my back to roulette ..
what you worry for? i said it will be fast ,if you think i lost we can go out but if this is decent
casino they will call us back to get ............. turned my back , and pushed all 81x10e to cashout LOL
tipped 10e to table and ran out with 750e profit - is my only time played roulette .

//.god luck to you all.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: SvenBomvolen on November 24, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
U had luck, and thats all. I dont believe this is possible in long run. But I will try it for sure and tell u results.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: 98problems on November 24, 2015, 08:39:13 PM
isnt that just a some kind of a martingale on a dice game? it looks pretty similar though you were lucky to win it in my opinion as its hard to win usually


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 24, 2015, 09:08:42 PM
it is very very hard to hit yes BUT

it has not relation with martingale really , bets are increasing only if you win and reset again on first loss

so say i won with payout 82x i can keep 78x and play next bet 4x -- lost and bet resets to normal 1x

or won 2nd in a row (4x82x=328x) i can keep (4x78=312x) and play next bet 4x4x -- lost and bet resets to normal 1x

THERE IS NOT MARTINGALE - or reversed one (98%+ of bets are flat 1x)

BUT IT IS A REAL PRAYER TO LUCK GODS

very dificult to actually see it happening - i hope someone with real gambling exp can see what im saying



Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: patt0 on November 25, 2015, 01:47:41 AM
I don't know. I have trouble believing in any "system" or strategy for dice. In the end they are all the same, you lose in the long run, so it does not really matter what you do I think.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: equator on November 25, 2015, 03:05:16 AM
what ever type of bot or martingale or reverse martingale you use it at the end you will lose it because the site will catch your betting and then it will give reverse of your betting and you lose it. i have tried so many this type of strategy but at the end it all give loss. so their is no strategy that tells 100% to win.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: poplolnman on November 25, 2015, 04:46:22 AM
what ever type of bot or martingale or reverse martingale you use it at the end you will lose it because the site will catch your betting and then it will give reverse of your betting and you lose it. i have tried so many this type of strategy but at the end it all give loss. so their is no strategy that tells 100% to win.

That's right, if you know in the end it all lost why you did not take a profit when you are in win "phase" and just stop playing. I know its hard but when you did you get a profit.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 25, 2015, 08:27:08 AM

That's right, if you know in the end it all lost why you did not take a profit when you are in win "phase" and just stop playing. I know its hard but when you did you get a profit.

I made this thread to talk more about this kind of things , how to behave when you gamble ,thank you Poplolnman !
the all thread so far consumed to talking about one example in OP , gambling most of times is not about profit ,
so what i said or i will say later here is for the rare day someone is very lucky

 


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: azguard on November 25, 2015, 08:40:22 AM
what ever type of bot or martingale or reverse martingale you use it at the end you will lose it because the site will catch your betting and then it will give reverse of your betting and you lose it. i have tried so many this type of strategy but at the end it all give loss. so their is no strategy that tells 100% to win.

That's right, if you know in the end it all lost why you did not take a profit when you are in win "phase" and just stop playing. I know its hard but when you did you get a profit.

one reason cuz of profit and hope you will win JACKPOT
in that case house take the win and everything you have

sadly but true


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: iv4n on November 25, 2015, 08:52:15 AM
I have my own strategy with pushing my luck. Its a bit hard for me to follow what you wanted to say, but if u won its a good thing. Gambling is called gambling cause we never know what will happen in the game, and for that I believe there will be always winners and losers. In this case u won with this, but how many more times u will win again with same strategy? Did u won just once or several times? And I would like to know how much money u need to invest in this type of strategy?


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Betwrong on November 25, 2015, 09:10:39 AM
Most of us including me we simply dont know how to push our luck when gambling

in this thread i will try to give you some examples about that.
there will be no systems or methods just some random ideas you may use
if you feel a)Lucky , b)you found a fair place to gamble , c) you fight reasonable House edge
d) you have some really SPARE money to spin with

my first example follows with a screenshot - for anyone known how to calculate post me how long the
odds was -- is auto play 50 repetitions only -- its when luck GOD goes crazy

i call it turbo-Martingale on profits , usually we play this system for tiny gains
notice the increase on win is 300% this means simply "if i win 4x bet next spin"

http://snag.gy/d9ato.jpg

<Estevan492> welcome comments ,ideas and pms anytime !
more to come if i see a bit of activity :)


I like the name you call it! As for the idea of betting like this, its carzy, but it might work any time, who knows.

I had a similar experience once: I was playing at 50% winning chance and I was always hitting the MAX buttton on win, and I won 7 times in a raw.  :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 25, 2015, 09:30:25 AM
I have my own strategy with pushing my luck. Its a bit hard for me to follow what you wanted to say, but if u won its a good thing. Gambling is called gambling cause we never know what will happen in the game, and for that I believe there will be always winners and losers. In this case u won with this, but how many more times u will win again with same strategy? Did u won just once or several times? And I would like to know how much money u need to invest in this type of strategy?

just once my friend - if i am lucky enough - when one crazy idea works take it and run :)



I like the name you call it! As for the idea of betting like this, its carzy, but it might work any time, who knows.

I had a similar experience once: I was playing at 50% winning chance and I was always hitting the MAX buttton on win, and I won 7 times in a raw.  :)


thang god i am not alone in this world -- you made my day Betwrong - great name you got there :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Linuld on November 25, 2015, 09:38:53 AM
what ever type of bot or martingale or reverse martingale you use it at the end you will lose it because the site will catch your betting and then it will give reverse of your betting and you lose it. i have tried so many this type of strategy but at the end it all give loss. so their is no strategy that tells 100% to win.

What you said is correct because these gambling house will be having big team to watch out all these tricks. They will change you script now and then to fix all these tricks so at the end most of the players who uses these tricks will lose money for sure. Luck will come once in awhile but we can't push it.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Small on November 25, 2015, 09:54:08 AM
what ever type of bot or martingale or reverse martingale you use it at the end you will lose it because the site will catch your betting and then it will give reverse of your betting and you lose it. i have tried so many this type of strategy but at the end it all give loss. so their is no strategy that tells 100% to win.

What you said is correct because these gambling house will be having big team to watch out all these tricks. They will change you script now and then to fix all these tricks so at the end most of the players who uses these tricks will lose money for sure. Luck will come once in awhile but we can't push it.
Most reputable gambling sites I know do not do this. They have provably fair system which has predetermined server seed and client seed, only the nonce moves up. It is possible for them to cheat if you do not check but it is impossible to do so if the users does check it. Gambling sites like 999dice is an example which cheats.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: adaseb on November 25, 2015, 11:46:07 PM
what ever type of bot or martingale or reverse martingale you use it at the end you will lose it because the site will catch your betting and then it will give reverse of your betting and you lose it. i have tried so many this type of strategy but at the end it all give loss. so their is no strategy that tells 100% to win.

What you said is correct because these gambling house will be having big team to watch out all these tricks. They will change you script now and then to fix all these tricks so at the end most of the players who uses these tricks will lose money for sure. Luck will come once in awhile but we can't push it.
Most reputable gambling sites I know do not do this. They have provably fair system which has predetermined server seed and client seed, only the nonce moves up. It is possible for them to cheat if you do not check but it is impossible to do so if the users does check it. Gambling sites like 999dice is an example which cheats.

This was discussed many times in the past. They did investigations and it was impossible to come to a conclusion if using the autobot causes you to lose or if you just lose due to bad luck.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Patatas on November 26, 2015, 06:34:02 AM
This seems like a good strategy .Don't think it will work for everyone in all the scenarious .Agree its your Gut which is likely to tell you what you should be doing but being logical which involves thinking from your brain rather than your heart will always help you make a wise desicion.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Mr. Forum on November 26, 2015, 06:49:40 AM
Thanks Eli. This is a great tip for those people who just gamble without having any knowledge in mind. I can add up and say that don't gamble because other people are gambling. You better find your niche and the place where you will gamble at your comfort. There are other fair places where you can gamble and win, however, people keep on ignoring them and end up in high end places where the probability of winning is next to zero. Be careful before you place your dollars for a spin.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: phibay on November 26, 2015, 07:04:22 AM
well its just another martinfailgale strategy that we all know where will end :D anyways i might still try this one, maybe i'll be lucky with this one :D thanks for the idea!


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: twister on November 26, 2015, 01:33:59 PM
I know how to push my luck, I pushed it so hard the other day that it fell off the cliff and died.

But seriously, your strategy or fluke may have worked one time but I doubt it will again like just the other day I picked a bad player in a tennis match, so bad that I don't even remember his name and the odds for him were 10.5 and he won and I have tried it many times after that but that didn't happen again.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 26, 2015, 01:52:41 PM
thank you all for posting here :)

i know its hard to keep up with your post counting ,but thats life and i try to help a bit on that
i made this thread here because i had a good life with gambling no matter profits or losses

i can repeat once more ,there is no strategy suggested here ,some examples perhaps
the main idea is i like to tell some of my ideas about creative aggresive gambling

it is not about winning or losing is about playing for max excitement !

BUT what i want more is to hear your ideas or little life stories about a lucky day or two.

may God and luck always be with you all - Good day from Greece.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: darkangel11 on November 26, 2015, 01:53:52 PM
Oh what a great strategy "feel lucky, have money to lose, bet 300x and pray to luck god" I'm off to try it out.  ;D


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: MaxTax on November 26, 2015, 03:21:08 PM
I'd try not to push my luck

If I were to ever start gambling, I would stop after getting some wins and take a break.

Just to oscared to push it


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 26, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
This seems like a good strategy .Don't think it will work for everyone in all the scenarious .Agree its your Gut which is likely to tell you what you should be doing but being logical which involves thinking from your brain rather than your heart will always help you make a wise desicion.

thanks for your post Patatas , i can say your name sound a bit Greek , im from Greece ,Salonica right now
wisdom and gambling are not good partners except when we talk about bankroll management :)
wise is to not gamble or taking risks in general but then life is safer and more boring !
people new to gambling and i can say young kids among us learning or trying to find how to gamble.
for younger people and kids i can say "Wait to gamble later,you have many better options as kid than that"
for us i hope we use gambling as a very rare-say every 1-2 months activity to spice a bit our life

Thanks Eli. This is a great tip for those people who just gamble without having any knowledge in mind. I can add up and say that don't gamble because other people are gambling. You better find your niche and the place where you will gamble at your comfort. There are other fair places where you can gamble and win, however, people keep on ignoring them and end up in high end places where the probability of winning is next to zero. Be careful before you place your dollars for a spin.

i can say this is best reply i got in this thread so far - THANK YOU - if you have a good story to tell us you more than welcome to

I know how to push my luck, I pushed it so hard the other day that it fell off the cliff and died.

But seriously, your strategy or fluke may have worked one time but I doubt it will again like just the other day I picked a bad player in a tennis match, so bad that I don't even remember his name and the odds for him were 10.5 and he won and I have tried it many times after that but that didn't happen again.


That is helpfull post too - keep it coming :)
 


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: AndySt on November 26, 2015, 11:41:14 PM
The best winning strategy is not gambling. If you do decide to participate then you must have patience to stop in time ;D


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Newcoins2020 on November 27, 2015, 12:22:12 AM
This seems like a good strategy .Don't think it will work for everyone in all the scenarious .Agree its your Gut which is likely to tell you what you should be doing but being logical which involves thinking from your brain rather than your heart will always help you make a wise desicion.

The fact is yoru gut is the thing you need to trust more. Some people don't have the nature to take risk and will not trust their gut.

In gambling it is about that. You have a chance and to take profit, just trust your gut. It's really that simple.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on November 27, 2015, 03:29:25 AM
I am quite unlucky except today as i won a little bit of bitcoin in a lottery. But usually i lost almost all of my betting in sports.

I think i am the one with extremely unlucky in respect to sports prediction.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: tsaroz on November 27, 2015, 03:36:59 AM
My gambling history is the same, win small and lose big. But by luck I'm still not on lose. So it's still fun.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Erza on November 27, 2015, 05:35:54 AM
well its just another martinfailgale strategy that we all know where will end :D anyways i might still try this one, maybe i'll be lucky with this one :D thanks for the idea!

It is not martinfailgale strategy but it is still martingale because what I know this is the best strategy that you can come up with. You just need to set your balance and your base. Dont aim so high if you only have a little of balance they will sure take out your balance. Usually I do 1-10% of my balance so at least I still have the chance to recover it


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 27, 2015, 10:22:07 AM
a lot of people talking about martingale systems but it seems they simply dont know what exacly is.

with few words its any system you increase the bet by a factor big enough to satisfy a simple condition :
when you hit just one win you will get a tiny profit for the entire session (usually the bet you start it)

the fail of this system is because you may risk 100s or 1000s or millions for just a tiny profit
most of times one fail is enough to erase even months or years (*!!!*) of tiny winnings

from wikipedia for more advanced readers : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(probability_theory)

as long there is a house edge ,no system can beat consistenly that house

and even when is no house edge or a little +EV , who-has-the-most money will win in the long run
thats why casinos always try to have big bankrolls ,how often you heard a casino busted?



Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: extrobot on November 27, 2015, 10:43:28 AM
Only difference from normal martingale is you lose your money faster in this stratergy, the only way you can stay in profit is by not betting at all.

think about that twice -- you bet 4x only after win , wins with payout of 82x not happening too often ,so its cheaper than
many known systems :)

You are right...
What currency is this screenshot in anyway?


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: HarryKPeters on November 27, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
I am quite unlucky except today as i won a little bit of bitcoin in a lottery. But usually i lost almost all of my betting in sports.

I think i am the one with extremely unlucky in respect to sports prediction.

My experience of gambling was the same.

I gamble a little more these days, because i learned to follow my instincts. Normally i take a lot of precautions. But listening to your instints helps.. alot.

Try it with some virtual money or low amounts.

But beware, don't become addicted.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: yurinov on November 27, 2015, 11:39:05 AM
I like your strategy, how much did you total win from this run?


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: error08 on November 27, 2015, 12:32:57 PM
I do not know whether this method can or not, but to push my luck that I have always prayed, try  ;)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: shulio on November 27, 2015, 12:41:50 PM
I do not know whether this method can or not, but to push my luck that I have always prayed, try  ;)

You pray to god and hope that He let you win in gambling site? you must be crazy, gambling is just another type of sin according to the bible and yet you pray to him for that


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: mexxer-2 on November 27, 2015, 12:44:49 PM
I do not know whether this method can or not, but to push my luck that I have always prayed, try  ;)

You pray to god and hope that He let you win in gambling site? you must be crazy, gambling is just another type of sin according to the bible and yet you pray to him for that
Eh, now going off-topic but who said the God from bible is the only god? And who said gambling is not accepted in other religion.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on November 27, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
You are right...
What currency is this screenshot in anyway?

You are the first who asking this question ... i was waiting for long :)
currency is PLAYMONEY - you can get 999 times per day 2800 on my current level
if you make some millions out of those 2800 you can convert for some real altcoin or BTC

I like your strategy, how much did you total win from this run?

this round i SSd it was 50 spins of 150+ = 8000 PLAY total cost
the result is written on the screenshot , like 30x overall payout
the real value of this win is ...... some satoshis but it was great fun
to see it happening :)

*the same crazy play payed me 3 times in real BTC but it was only 2 in row and very little bet
i suspect as all of you maybe things are not so easy with serious bets :)

<have a nice day> i hope i was not wasting your time for nothing !
of course as i can see here in BtcTalk there are plenty opportunities for all of us
to waste our time , but as micro-gambling , fun is what it matters the most.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on December 15, 2015, 01:25:50 PM
example with real BTC , small amount bet , 4x^5 in a row - merry christmas and happy new year :)

http://snag.gy/vd9hF.jpg


Title: Re: You ask how towin - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: zivone on December 15, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
Martingale works for me and I start betting high only after 3 consecutive losses. Betting only like 10% to 15% out of all your capital then stopping after winning for 3 times. Then do it again after hours then stop  when you feel house edge starts working. I am not winning much with this strategy but I am not losing anything or just minimum loss.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: futurebit640 on December 15, 2015, 01:58:18 PM
My gambling history is the same, win small and lose big. But by luck I'm still not on lose. So it's still fun.

I didn't understood your explanation, you said you win less and lose big but how the end result is still in profits? If you lose big than how you can be still in profits?

Luck will come only sometimes for every one in a life time but when it will come no one knows and I don't think any one can push or pull it towards them.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Newcoins2020 on December 15, 2015, 02:52:48 PM
Well it is a gamble, you never know when you're going to win. Same as to when I don't know when to push my luck. It's hard to tell, sometimes I feel like i'm pushing too hard and end up loosing. Sometimes I'm predicting in my head what it will be and I didn't raise my bets. It's a very difficult thing to do. You gotta have some great instincts for this.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: BitMaxz on December 15, 2015, 05:55:45 PM
Your strategy looks interesting.. But martingale sometimes its work for but i didnt use the real bitcoin i use the free faucet bonus..
And try my luck with martingale and 25% chance. some times i got 0.0012 with starting bet of 1 satoshis...
But i will try that strategy...


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: hua_hui on December 15, 2015, 06:08:53 PM
My gambling history is the same, win small and lose big. But by luck I'm still not on lose. So it's still fun.

I didn't understood your explanation, you said you win less and lose big but how the end result is still in profits? If you lose big than how you can be still in profits?

Luck will come only sometimes for every one in a life time but when it will come no one knows and I don't think any one can push or pull it towards them.

i think he has many some wins and a few big loss. so luckily for him, the many small wins is able to cover the few big losses.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Betwrong on December 15, 2015, 06:31:49 PM
Your strategy looks interesting.. But martingale sometimes its work for but i didnt use the real bitcoin i use the free faucet bonus..
And try my luck with martingale and 25% chance. some times i got 0.0012 with starting bet of 1 satoshis...
But i will try that strategy...

Man, that "strategy" is a killer, it will kill your whole balance in no time. You might only have some fun playing like that with small amounts, but for realz - it's a killer.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: MaxTax on December 15, 2015, 06:43:57 PM
I can never tell when to push my luck or not. It's hard to tell when you're in the middle of a game.
I guess if you keep winning a couple of rounds back to back, you could keep on going until you lose and then you could stop and take a break before starting to gamble again.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: vendetahome on December 15, 2015, 07:26:33 PM
i never know how much time should i gamble and when should i stop even though i manage to win some small amounts i dont stop and end up loosing every single cent i have deposited


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: BitMaxz on December 15, 2015, 07:44:02 PM
Your strategy looks interesting.. But martingale sometimes its work for but i didnt use the real bitcoin i use the free faucet bonus..
And try my luck with martingale and 25% chance. some times i got 0.0012 with starting bet of 1 satoshis...
But i will try that strategy...

Man, that "strategy" is a killer, it will kill your whole balance in no time. You might only have some fun playing like that with small amounts, but for realz - it's a killer.
Yeah i know thats why i only using the free coins in dice site.
Sometimes i got won some times i lost but its just for fun and try my luck with martingale strategy using free faucet bonus...
Im still studying the dice game to gain a profit with the real bitcoin..


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Betwrong on December 18, 2015, 08:10:32 AM
Your strategy looks interesting.. But martingale sometimes its work for but i didnt use the real bitcoin i use the free faucet bonus..
And try my luck with martingale and 25% chance. some times i got 0.0012 with starting bet of 1 satoshis...
But i will try that strategy...

Man, that "strategy" is a killer, it will kill your whole balance in no time. You might only have some fun playing like that with small amounts, but for realz - it's a killer.
Yeah i know thats why i only using the free coins in dice site.
Sometimes i got won some times i lost but its just for fun and try my luck with martingale strategy using free faucet bonus...
Im still studying the dice game to gain a profit with the real bitcoin..

I wish you good luck with that of course, but unfortunately there is no way to learn how to gain profit from a dice game by "studying". This is no Biology, mate. With gambling every time you think you know exactly how to win you lose everything. Happened many times to many people (me included).


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: LuckyYOU on December 18, 2015, 08:22:22 AM
Nice strategy. I usually play a couple of rounds of whatever game I wanna play at the time. Once I start to win I'll only play with the money I've won and stop gambling with the initial bet I placed. If I lose all my winnings I'm done for the night. That way I haven't lost or won anything but still had a night of fun placing bets.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: enhu on December 18, 2015, 09:03:59 AM
Nice strategy. I usually play a couple of rounds of whatever game I wanna play at the time. Once I start to win I'll only play with the money I've won and stop gambling with the initial bet I placed. If I lose all my winnings I'm done for the night. That way I haven't lost or won anything but still had a night of fun placing bets.

I thought you said pray a couple of rounds.   ;D
Not an easy to follow advice but good for those who gamble all day when they get all their funds through loans and end up defaulted.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: ThunderThomas on December 18, 2015, 11:15:47 AM
Nice strategy. I usually play a couple of rounds of whatever game I wanna play at the time. Once I start to win I'll only play with the money I've won and stop gambling with the initial bet I placed. If I lose all my winnings I'm done for the night. That way I haven't lost or won anything but still had a night of fun placing bets.

I use this strategy most of the time as well. But sometimes it's hard to do when you start losing with your first bet. I would sometimes withdraw once again and if I lose that amount I would stop gambling.
You only get a few chances to win and at some point you gotta know when to stop.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: sakira on December 18, 2015, 12:00:33 PM
Nice strategy and looks interesting, I will try your strategy and I hope it goes well for me :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Snail2 on December 18, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
Nice one, but I still have some doubts about the viability of Martingale in the long run. If there would be any consistently profitable gambling strategy, then all casino owners would begging for a little change at the entrance of the nearest off-licence shop :).


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: BTCevo on December 18, 2015, 01:19:07 PM
Nice one, but I still have some doubts about the viability of Martingale in the long run. If there would be any consistently profitable gambling strategy, then all casino owners would begging for a little change at the entrance of the nearest off-licence shop :).

It is not possible that someone can make some profit using martingale because many people like you said it is not possible to get it in a long run right? Sure there is no consistently but all of this thing is depends on your luck whether you can get some profit or not it really depends on your luck so if someone can maintain their balance and base well I think they will possible to get some profit, it is just matter of time


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: jt byte on December 18, 2015, 02:35:35 PM
If I had to choice about gambling or trading bitcoin. I would 100% choice for trading bitcoin, because with it you can earn money with out losing it. If you did a good job. With gambling is just to risky to play if you don't have that luck. It just depends on you and how good you are.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Snail2 on December 18, 2015, 02:35:53 PM
It is not possible that someone can make some profit using martingale because many people like you said it is not possible to get it in a long run right? Sure there is no consistently but all of this thing is depends on your luck whether you can get some profit or not it really depends on your luck so if someone can maintain their balance and base well I think they will possible to get some profit, it is just matter of time

Of course it's possible if you have loads of money to play with. Personally I like more a sort of "hit and run" approach. With every new bet you increasing the probability of losing as well.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: maku on December 18, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
Nice one, but I still have some doubts about the viability of Martingale in the long run. If there would be any consistently profitable gambling strategy, then all casino owners would begging for a little change at the entrance of the nearest off-licence shop :).

It is not possible that someone can make some profit using martingale because many people like you said it is not possible to get it in a long run right? Sure there is no consistently but all of this thing is depends on your luck whether you can get some profit or not it really depends on your luck so if someone can maintain their balance and base well I think they will possible to get some profit, it is just matter of time
You are contradicts yourself in a pretty obvious way. You know yourself that gambling strategies will bring you no consistency, and without luck on your side they are pretty much worthless.
So why bother with excuses that martingale is good but not consistent?


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: HostSurf on December 18, 2015, 03:25:49 PM
I might try this strategy sometime. I rarely gamble but when I do, I use this strategy:
I place a bet and as long as I'm winning I'll be raising my bet by 50%, if I lose one round I will go back and place my initial amount that I bet on the first time. If I lose that one, I go for a round of drinks :P
I basically keep going until I lose one round and take a break once I lost 1 round.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: bitcoinblessed on December 18, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
A strategy like this to be successful needs a pretty decent bankroll. I did however watch 2 people over the last month or so use this and win HUGE on PD.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on December 21, 2015, 07:41:51 PM
Have fun&luck and best wishes for Christmas and New Year Eve :)

* in case you hit big you may post here something about it !



Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Noisskal on December 21, 2015, 07:57:26 PM
A good strategies for you guys

When you win go double up .

When you lose go doudble down .

This is the only way to win and don be scared since you already gambling here .


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Altynbekova on December 21, 2015, 08:01:51 PM
I might try this strategy sometime. I rarely gamble but when I do, I use this strategy:
I place a bet and as long as I'm winning I'll be raising my bet by 50%, if I lose one round I will go back and place my initial amount that I bet on the first time. If I lose that one, I go for a round of drinks :P
I basically keep going until I lose one round and take a break once I lost 1 round.


Interesting,
I will try this when I will gamble again, it's seems you are winning till the end, because of the 50% increment accumlated of the last rounds.
In the end you are destined to lose, don't forget that ;)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on December 22, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
A good strategies for you guys

When you win go double up .

When you lose go doudble down .

This is the only way to win and don be scared since you already gambling here .

5 STARS awarded to this post !!!

perhaps you are the only one who understod what i was trying to show in my thread :)
thats ok because this is mainly bitcoin and not gambling forum but since many of bitcoiners
will end gamblers i thought it was good to tell them some other ways to play !

thanks for your post and have a nice day/holidays !


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: adaseb on December 24, 2015, 01:06:09 AM
This is actually the best way to gamble. Which is pretty much the exact opposite of what most of us do. Basically reverse martingale.

When you win, double your bet, not when you lose. Do it 15-20 times in a row and you will make good money with a small risk.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: futurebit640 on December 24, 2015, 02:47:13 AM
A good strategies for you guys

When you win go double up .

When you lose go doudble down .

This is the only way to win and don be scared since you already gambling here .

I actually tried this method in freebitco.in site long back with free money but didn't win any thing. But, I won't play dice games for long so I may not be explored fully this option. Only one time I chose this option with free money and went on automated bets after 30min I lot all my coins in my account.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Gloober on December 24, 2015, 09:15:35 AM
Nice strategy, I might try this out next time I'm gambling. What I usually do when I'm gambling is that when I win my first bet, I increase my bet by 50%, I will keep doing that until I lose one round. Once I've lost one round I will continue to gamble with the first amount I started out with.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Daijess on December 24, 2015, 10:52:13 AM
A good strategies for you guys

When you win go double up .

When you lose go doudble down .

This is the only way to win and don be scared since you already gambling here .

I actually tried this method in freebitco.in site long back with free money but didn't win any thing. But, I won't play dice games for long so I may not be explored fully this option. Only one time I chose this option with free money and went on automated bets after 30min I lot all my coins in my account.


Well if you are good luck that will makes you a lot of coin .


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on December 25, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
Merry Christmas and happy holidays for you all :)

may the New Year 2016 bring happiness and some BTC to your wallets ..

gambling is like walking randomly on a line starting with zero and exceeding to infinity
in our short lifes we are doomed to end all of our walks on this line near enough to zero
but we can still get fun from the trip !



Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: bithasher on December 25, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
You can win using martingale but for some shorter periods and I personally have lost many times when when I used martingale consistently for longer periods.Anyway the points you raised at op are good to keep in mind before start playing.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: boopy265420 on December 25, 2015, 12:29:07 PM
All you need to have a big bankroll with lowest possible house edge and provable fair system with luck off course to win.I will say a mixed combination of martingale and random bets will lead you to the success to end up with some nice profits.You should know the point where to stop placing anymore.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: jangloos on December 25, 2015, 12:31:24 PM
It is nice share and will keep in mind all the important issues and tricks were discussed here.I will try my luck and then will be able to say about these strategies sure.Martingale works for some people well and for others it is useless.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: patt0 on December 25, 2015, 12:43:58 PM
It is nice share and will keep in mind all the important issues and tricks were discussed here.I will try my luck and then will be able to say about these strategies sure.Martingale works for some people well and for others it is useless.

I don't know, for me martingale only worked to send my coins down the drain. I tried many variation but they al ended in the same manner.
I still prefer to just make some random bets and leave when I feel I might be pushing my luck. I'm not even controlling my progress, so I don't know if it is working for me or not, but I still get some fun out of gambling this way, and I keep doing it, so I will say it's working.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on December 26, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
a christmas gift for poor me :)

http://snag.gy/J6VoH.jpg

yayYYY


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Nimbulan on December 26, 2015, 02:52:05 PM
i have never known how much to play in order to finish gambling in huge profit, the last time i played with my bitcoins was very unlucky i lost a big amount of bitcoins in just a few bets because of that i try to avoid gambling at all costs though i sometimes still play in the latest created casinos


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: znickelbackz on December 26, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
wise man says: "don't push your luck". abuse your luck and God will punish u, make u pay double. (j/k)
the flow of luck maybe a real thing, I think I feel it sth, but I use it carefully, use it just for important events, in real life, not gamble.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: cellard on December 27, 2015, 12:41:24 AM
Only difference from normal martingale is you lose your money faster in this stratergy, the only way you can stay in profit is by not betting at all.

Not really, you can be insanely lucky and hit the jackpot, then you would be always be on profit, unless you are stupid enough to gamble all of your jackpot away. The best situation would be to win a jackpot and just retire from gambling, or do it very rarely.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: examplens on December 27, 2015, 12:49:00 AM
well i think that is luck has little effect.
just try in one casino with small amount(10$), and what? i lose everything very easy. I'm pretty sure that all casinos give very small chance to win. especially software based.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: klf on December 27, 2015, 12:49:11 AM
i have never known how much to play in order to finish gambling in huge profit, the last time i played with my bitcoins was very unlucky i lost a big amount of bitcoins in just a few bets because of that i try to avoid gambling at all costs though i sometimes still play in the latest created casinos

You should know on thing that, in gambling it is quite impossible to win a big profits in any games but only very lucky people one in a life time they may win but for that you shouldn't waste you hard earn money to chase down you luck. So what your trying to do like avoiding gambling or gambling once in awhile should be fine.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: raaajlucky on December 27, 2015, 01:29:59 AM
i have never known how much to play in order to finish gambling in huge profit, the last time i played with my bitcoins was very unlucky i lost a big amount of bitcoins in just a few bets because of that i try to avoid gambling at all costs though i sometimes still play in the latest created casinos

You should know on thing that, in gambling it is quite impossible to win a big profits in any games but only very lucky people one in a life time they may win but for that you shouldn't waste you hard earn money to chase down you luck. So what your trying to do like avoiding gambling or gambling once in awhile should be fine.

That is very true, we can't win always in gambling so do not try to push you're luck by wasting your hard earned money in gambling.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Kevin77 on December 27, 2015, 06:29:49 AM
i have never known how much to play in order to finish gambling in huge profit, the last time i played with my bitcoins was very unlucky i lost a big amount of bitcoins in just a few bets because of that i try to avoid gambling at all costs though i sometimes still play in the latest created casinos

You should know on thing that, in gambling it is quite impossible to win a big profits in any games but only very lucky people one in a life time they may win but for that you shouldn't waste you hard earn money to chase down you luck. So what your trying to do like avoiding gambling or gambling once in awhile should be fine.

Yes many gamblers are wasting their hard earned money and more precious time to find out their luck with gambling. The fact is luck is similar to God and never could be found.
Instead of pushing your luck, you must hard work on your strategies. Your hard work may find the God, yes luck.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Cashew on December 27, 2015, 06:31:13 AM
Lol nice innovation there... I'm going to try it :)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: cellard on December 28, 2015, 10:55:06 PM
i have never known how much to play in order to finish gambling in huge profit, the last time i played with my bitcoins was very unlucky i lost a big amount of bitcoins in just a few bets because of that i try to avoid gambling at all costs though i sometimes still play in the latest created casinos

You should know on thing that, in gambling it is quite impossible to win a big profits in any games but only very lucky people one in a life time they may win but for that you shouldn't waste you hard earn money to chase down you luck. So what your trying to do like avoiding gambling or gambling once in awhile should be fine.

Yes many gamblers are wasting their hard earned money and more precious time to find out their luck with gambling. The fact is luck is similar to God and never could be found.
Instead of pushing your luck, you must hard work on your strategies. Your hard work may find the God, yes luck.

But what strategies can be done in gambling? it all comes down to pressing "spin" and hoping for the best, I don't think you can develop sound plans based on the simplicity of the principle of randomness (which at the same time is very complicated but ultimately for a casino user is just pressing a button and that's all).


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: shanem on December 31, 2015, 02:17:35 PM
If you are lucky in gambling, don't keep increasing your stake as you will eventually lose big. You can't be winning all the time. When you have a small profit, it is always good to take them.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: tiggytomb on December 31, 2015, 02:32:42 PM
I dont think any system really works as a way to get rich, I think it is all down to random luck otherwise we would all be rich, I tend to play on how I feel and sometimes I win but mostly lose. 


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: fravia on December 31, 2015, 02:43:10 PM
unfortunately i always miss the right time when i have to stop playing and i have to withdraw, i never manage to end up in profit and always loose every single penny i deposit to the casino for gambling, i hope one day i will learn how to play it


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: HarryKPeters on December 31, 2015, 03:21:37 PM
unfortunately i always miss the right time when i have to stop playing and i have to withdraw, i never manage to end up in profit and always loose every single penny i deposit to the casino for gambling, i hope one day i will learn how to play it

Yeah i think you are not doing anything wrong. The whole concept of gambling is that you deposit coins then go home with no coins.
Didn't you read the rules?


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: maku on December 31, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
unfortunately i always miss the right time when i have to stop playing and i have to withdraw, i never manage to end up in profit and always loose every single penny i deposit to the casino for gambling, i hope one day i will learn how to play it

Yeah i think you are not doing anything wrong. The whole concept of gambling is that you deposit coins then go home with no coins.
Didn't you read the rules?
I know this syndrome. It is part of gambler's fallacy called "The Sunk Cost Fallacy" - It goes like this: I've already spent xxx dollars on this game and I haven't won once;  I can't let all that money go to waste!

My advice - don't fell for it, it is vicious circle. Set a goal for your gambling sessions - 'I have $20 bankroll for today, if I manage to double it I quit for today - and if I lose all, well luck wan't on my side today'.

This is the way to earn money from gambling.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: darkangel11 on December 31, 2015, 06:21:53 PM
Want to push your luck? Learn to count cards  ;)


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: phibay on December 31, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
unfortunately i always miss the right time when i have to stop playing and i have to withdraw, i never manage to end up in profit and always loose every single penny i deposit to the casino for gambling, i hope one day i will learn how to play it

probably because you are getting greedy and want more profit. in other words, you aren't contented with the profit you have. honestly i am also like yours. still i never learn, i always end up lose cuz of greediness ;D i do have a 10% profit goal but most of the times, i lose before i reach it.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 03, 2016, 03:03:15 PM
Happy New Year 2016 to all of you and thank you for your posts !

Please continue to share your unique thoughts about luck and gambling !

BTC.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 08, 2016, 11:15:10 AM
 ;D

no news right now , i have a bad streak  >:( so i cant post new examples

how about someone from you all post a good winning streak instead ?

//talk you all later//


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: newcoins1978 on January 08, 2016, 11:17:37 AM
unfortunately i always miss the right time when i have to stop playing and i have to withdraw, i never manage to end up in profit and always loose every single penny i deposit to the casino for gambling, i hope one day i will learn how to play it

I have the same problem here
I think it's because I get greedy and keep on playing in hopes to win more
Which I obviously don't and lose all my winnings again


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 11, 2016, 12:50:06 PM
reason for this post is very simple :

i try days now to find a thread to post something relative but the whole forum
look a bit dead , perhaps people with interests for altcoins have something to talk
but i dont care a lot about that , so i will post here my news for the fun of it.

NEWS : there are no news other than my last good win of PLAYmoney !
heh the whole sum of 2mil playmoney converted to 60.000 satoshis yay
after that nothing really great , next update when i have a good screenshot.

/im playing for FUN - im playing for FUN ... counting sheeps : 23,24..339,340/


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: masnad on January 11, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
u cant know when u will win and when u will loose :P


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: phibay on January 11, 2016, 01:16:23 PM
;D

no news right now , i have a bad streak  >:( so i cant post new examples

how about someone from you all post a good winning streak instead ?

//talk you all later//


good winning streak? that's pretty rare for most of us ;D but  if you're looking for bad losing streaks, i got many of them ;D


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: BTCevo on January 11, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
;D

no news right now , i have a bad streak  >:( so i cant post new examples

how about someone from you all post a good winning streak instead ?

//talk you all later//


good winning streak? that's pretty rare for most of us ;D but  if you're looking for bad losing streaks, i got many of them ;D

If you want to see good winning streak may be you can just do it by yourselves using 98% winning chance. I am sure you will get that winning streak and with some profit of course, if you can't bear if your loss


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: BruceLee007 on January 15, 2016, 09:53:30 PM
i have never known how to push my luck thats why i usually lose vast amounts of money when i gamble online, im really greedy and i never know when to stop


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: JeWay on January 15, 2016, 10:30:27 PM
You did earn a big profit, but the possibility to lose is also much bigger than any other normal bet


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 17, 2016, 05:16:51 PM
as you already know i play very hard to come systems so i can post rarely

enjoy a good one > <

http://snag.gy/z7vvt.jpg


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: boopy265420 on January 17, 2016, 05:37:12 PM
I do agree with OP about pushing luck and for this we need some spare money.I won few times some amount which was not very very big but was something and each time I kept playing with big bankroll and finally succeeded to win.I didn't win at first tries so this is totally understandable that some times we need to keep playing as long as can.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 17, 2016, 05:39:58 PM
as you already know i play very hard to come systems so i can post rarely

enjoy a good one > <

http://snag.gy/z7vvt.jpg
Wow nice win! I never get that lucky and to get 2 in a row...
Just wow.
Also, I agree with your about pushing luck since most of the time I gamble I use martingale and end up losing.
Then I did a bunch of YOLO bets and made a good profit!


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: onlinedragon on January 17, 2016, 05:43:58 PM
So far I was not really lucky some found tactics did not help me so far. Could be bad luck or terrible tactics.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: GannickusX on January 17, 2016, 06:17:36 PM
I believe there are 2 different kinds of luck. Imagine someone walking down the street and he finds a lottery ticket on the ground, decides to take it and incredibly enough, he wins the lottery, now thats PURE LUCK.

Now imagine someone who buys 10 lottery tickets everyday and he eventually wins the lottery, now that's someone who is ''pushing'' his luck, he is doing something in the first place to even be able to be lucky, now this can be applied anywhere in real life.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 17, 2016, 07:08:03 PM
I believe there are 2 different kinds of luck. Imagine someone walking down the street and he finds a lottery ticket on the ground, decides to take it and incredibly enough, he wins the lottery, now thats PURE LUCK.

Now imagine someone who buys 10 lottery tickets everyday and he eventually wins the lottery, now that's someone who is ''pushing'' his luck, he is doing something in the first place to even be able to be lucky, now this can be applied anywhere in real life.

excellent post !! you nailed it , at least i love and agree on what you wrote :)

i can add only one thing , gambling for the fun of it is not about how big you win or lose is about what
odds you can beat , at least for me that is.  ;D


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 22, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
from now on i will try to share some thoughts about the dice game
since it is the most available in the bitcoin/altcoin gambling sites

i see threads and many questions about strategies for dice but very
few posters explaining with simple way what each strategy aims for
and how or when is most apropriate to use it . you already may notice
some days your favorite strategy doesnt work at all for hours

the reason for that is what we call "variance" plus the fact that all
strategies can win but they also can fail depending at sequences of
random numbers . luck still is a major factor but not the only one

some factors most of you cant really thought about are following:

A. minimum bet,maximum bet and bet increment
--------------------------------------------
gambling little amounts can be fun without the pain of losing big.
real world casinos have to pay many employes working at tables
so they often set minimum chip values from 1$ or even more
internet sites however and thank god bitcoin sites due to lower
running costs can set minimum bet very low ,even at 1 satoshi
if you plan to have daily bankrolls less than 100k satoshis then
you need to find a site with lowest minimum bet posible

maximum bets in real life casinos are high enough but in reality
not that high vs minimum bets is around 100-200 min bets high
again is good that bitcoin casinos have 1000s or even millions
times bigger the maximum vs minimum bet, a reasonable max payout
of 2-5 BTC must be what you are looking for :)
note for high rollers with daily bankrolls up to 5Btc is ok too
bigger than that is not bad but for most cases it can hurt you
if you dream so high you will bet more and you will play less
*if you win it will be great of course but if you lose you may
kill your entire bank account within the day LOL.

bet increment must be equal or less than min bet ,that is
because plenty of systems for dice games need to increase or
decrease that bet even with steps of 1% ,rounding effects
can make many such systems unplayable otherwise
*for altcoins with little value decimal points are great too

---to be continued---





Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: hua_hui on January 22, 2016, 10:45:43 PM
as you already know i play very hard to come systems so i can post rarely

enjoy a good one > <

http://snag.gy/z7vvt.jpg

woa, that is a very very gd bet. winning one time is already consider quite gd and you manage to win a 2nd time with a bigger base!!! well done!!! would we able to see a 3 times win??? need not consecutive.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: lorylore on January 22, 2016, 11:23:44 PM
I believe there are 2 different kinds of luck. Imagine someone walking down the street and he finds a lottery ticket on the ground, decides to take it and incredibly enough, he wins the lottery, now thats PURE LUCK.

Now imagine someone who buys 10 lottery tickets everyday and he eventually wins the lottery, now that's someone who is ''pushing'' his luck, he is doing something in the first place to even be able to be lucky, now this can be applied anywhere in real life.

excellent post !! you nailed it , at least i love and agree on what you wrote :)

i can add only one thing , gambling for the fun of it is not about how big you win or lose is about what
odds you can beat , at least for me that is.  ;D


i understand what u r trying to say, i too find it quite rewarding when i play with high odds and i manage to win, the sudden jump in funds really do make me feel very rewarding and a sense of satifisation.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: dodgecharger on January 22, 2016, 11:52:32 PM
I believe there are 2 different kinds of luck. Imagine someone walking down the street and he finds a lottery ticket on the ground, decides to take it and incredibly enough, he wins the lottery, now thats PURE LUCK.

Now imagine someone who buys 10 lottery tickets everyday and he eventually wins the lottery, now that's someone who is ''pushing'' his luck, he is doing something in the first place to even be able to be lucky, now this can be applied anywhere in real life.

excellent post !! you nailed it , at least i love and agree on what you wrote :)

i can add only one thing , gambling for the fun of it is not about how big you win or lose is about what
odds you can beat , at least for me that is.  ;D


i understand what u r trying to say, i too find it quite rewarding when i play with high odds and i manage to win, the sudden jump in funds really do make me feel very rewarding and a sense of satifisation.
don't be greedy! Once win, just withdrawal and enjoy it. Don't keep betting big, you will lose all!


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eternalgloom on January 23, 2016, 12:14:39 AM
Nice bets there Estevan, I'll post some of mine soon when I get a few good consecutive ones :)
High risk strats working out for ya I see...


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: fullypak on January 23, 2016, 12:18:19 AM
So far I was not really lucky some found tactics did not help me so far. Could be bad luck or terrible tactics.

In gambling mostly all those tactics will now work for long time but we need some luck to win money in gambling. It is not you have terrible tactics so just play for fun and some time if your lucky you may win some big money. You can try sports betting there game is not fully depends on luck but still need some luck to win the bet.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: futurebit640 on January 23, 2016, 12:37:15 AM
I believe there are 2 different kinds of luck. Imagine someone walking down the street and he finds a lottery ticket on the ground, decides to take it and incredibly enough, he wins the lottery, now thats PURE LUCK.

Now imagine someone who buys 10 lottery tickets everyday and he eventually wins the lottery, now that's someone who is ''pushing'' his luck, he is doing something in the first place to even be able to be lucky, now this can be applied anywhere in real life.

excellent post !! you nailed it , at least i love and agree on what you wrote :)

i can add only one thing , gambling for the fun of it is not about how big you win or lose is about what
odds you can beat , at least for me that is.  ;D


i understand what u r trying to say, i too find it quite rewarding when i play with high odds and i manage to win, the sudden jump in funds really do make me feel very rewarding and a sense of satifisation.

All these tricks will not work for long time in dice games so when you win you should plan to withdraw at least your investment. Because of house edge finally house will win all money, if you don't withdraw your money at right time. It is not very easy to win with high odds in dice but very some times it is possible.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: frendsento on January 23, 2016, 05:30:04 AM
So far I was not really lucky some found tactics did not help me so far. Could be bad luck or terrible tactics.

In gambling mostly all those tactics will now work for long time but we need some luck to win money in gambling. It is not you have terrible tactics so just play for fun and some time if your lucky you may win some big money. You can try sports betting there game is not fully depends on luck but still need some luck to win the bet.
i agree with you with this  I tried different methods on dice and ended up having a big loss , there is no perfect tactics/methods that will work in everyone its purely luck and matter of the mind  , since then i bet on sport betting which give me higher chance of win that provably fair games.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Inkvor on January 23, 2016, 05:53:24 AM
;D

no news right now , i have a bad streak  >:( so i cant post new examples

how about someone from you all post a good winning streak instead ?

//talk you all later//


good winning streak? that's pretty rare for most of us ;D but  if you're looking for bad losing streaks, i got many of them ;D

If you want to see good winning streak may be you can just do it by yourselves using 98% winning chance. I am sure you will get that winning streak and with some profit of course, if you can't bear if your loss
This is a clear example of addiction.Everyone knows that they cant win on any multiplier if they continue to play cause there is no change in edge.

It is not very easy to win with high odds in dice but very some times it is possible.
To be honest you can win with the 1% house edge but doing it all day doesnt makes sense.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: pooya87 on January 23, 2016, 06:36:34 AM
So far I was not really lucky some found tactics did not help me so far. Could be bad luck or terrible tactics.

In gambling mostly all those tactics will now work for long time but we need some luck to win money in gambling. It is not you have terrible tactics so just play for fun and some time if your lucky you may win some big money. You can try sports betting there game is not fully depends on luck but still need some luck to win the bet.

i agree. all these methods are just helping you with a route that you can stick with and separate yourself from emotional betting, other than that there is no method that can guarantee the win unless it is exploiting a bug.
this is one of the reasons why i prefer to gamble on sports that i can somehow predict the outcome of the match.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: BTCevo on January 23, 2016, 08:58:15 AM
;D

no news right now , i have a bad streak  >:( so i cant post new examples

how about someone from you all post a good winning streak instead ?

//talk you all later//


good winning streak? that's pretty rare for most of us ;D but  if you're looking for bad losing streaks, i got many of them ;D

If you want to see good winning streak may be you can just do it by yourselves using 98% winning chance. I am sure you will get that winning streak and with some profit of course, if you can't bear if your loss
This is a clear example of addiction.Everyone knows that they cant win on any multiplier if they continue to play cause there is no change in edge.

What do you mean? This is not an addiction because you just play for a few times using 98% winning chance after getting some profit I think you should get away from each site. If you are about to continue it this is may be cause some addiction but overall what I said before didnt give any example of some addicted player


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 23, 2016, 09:07:18 AM
during some hours after i wrote what im quoting below some members here were
busy enough to recycle older messages of this thread , the reason i quote it here
is to make it available for reading ,comment this and give me some reason to
continue writing here . forget a bit your valuable post counts for a while.
no need to re-quote such lengthy post ,i know how "kill a thread" tricks work  ???

from now on i will try to share some thoughts about the dice game
since it is the most available in the bitcoin/altcoin gambling sites

i see threads and many questions about strategies for dice but very
few posters explaining with simple way what each strategy aims for
and how or when is most apropriate to use it . you already may notice
some days your favorite strategy doesnt work at all for hours

the reason for that is what we call "variance" plus the fact that all
strategies can win but they also can fail depending at sequences of
random numbers . luck still is a major factor but not the only one

some factors most of you cant really thought about are following:

A. minimum bet,maximum bet and bet increment
--------------------------------------------
gambling little amounts can be fun without the pain of losing big.
real world casinos have to pay many employes working at tables
so they often set minimum chip values from 1$ or even more
internet sites however and thank god bitcoin sites due to lower
running costs can set minimum bet very low ,even at 1 satoshi
if you plan to have daily bankrolls less than 100k satoshis then
you need to find a site with lowest minimum bet posible

maximum bets in real life casinos are high enough but in reality
not that high vs minimum bets is around 100-200 min bets high
again is good that bitcoin casinos have 1000s or even millions
times bigger the maximum vs minimum bet, a reasonable max payout
of 2-5 BTC must be what you are looking for :)
note for high rollers with daily bankrolls up to 5Btc is ok too
bigger than that is not bad but for most cases it can hurt you
if you dream so high you will bet more and you will play less
*if you win it will be great of course but if you lose you may
kill your entire bank account within the day LOL.

bet increment must be equal or less than min bet ,that is
because plenty of systems for dice games need to increase or
decrease that bet even with steps of 1% ,rounding effects
can make many such systems unplayable otherwise
*for altcoins with little value decimal points are great too

---to be continued---


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: tolikkk on January 23, 2016, 12:02:41 PM
and we say that the probability of winning is 50: 50 and that may require its own strategy and useful experience to catch a big win and that the probability is greater if you have in mind any plan , but at least we will have questions to the different methods of catching luck, they can take a lot of time and that in the end may not certain, but I think any good win can be caught, though, and the probability of the outcome will certainly be different using different methods
the easiest of course here speaks for itself roulette, bet big and you can easily catch a big prize, although it is possible to talk about personal luck, i.e. personal success, depends, probably, from their attitude to greed, though


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: klf on January 23, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
So far I was not really lucky some found tactics did not help me so far. Could be bad luck or terrible tactics.

In gambling mostly all those tactics will now work for long time but we need some luck to win money in gambling. It is not you have terrible tactics so just play for fun and some time if your lucky you may win some big money. You can try sports betting there game is not fully depends on luck but still need some luck to win the bet.
i agree with you with this  I tried different methods on dice and ended up having a big loss , there is no perfect tactics/methods that will work in everyone its purely luck and matter of the mind  , since then i bet on sport betting which give me higher chance of win that provably fair games.

In dice game surely no tricks will work for sure. This game is purely depends on luck and only luck can bring any one money from dice game otherwise site will be the winner for sure.

As you said in sports betting we have some chances to win because there no house edge but still need some luck to win bets.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: s1ng on January 23, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
Can't exactly when your luck is the right moment.
But some gambler may try their luck everyday and when they bet high amount + luck = they can win big unexpectedly


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: eli113 on January 25, 2016, 01:15:15 PM
So far I was not really lucky some found tactics did not help me so far. Could be bad luck or terrible tactics.

In gambling mostly all those tactics will now work for long time but we need some luck to win money in gambling. It is not you have terrible tactics so just play for fun and some time if your lucky you may win some big money. You can try sports betting there game is not fully depends on luck but still need some luck to win the bet.
i agree with you with this  I tried different methods on dice and ended up having a big loss , there is no perfect tactics/methods that will work in everyone its purely luck and matter of the mind  , since then i bet on sport betting which give me higher chance of win that provably fair games.

In dice game surely no tricks will work for sure. This game is purely depends on luck and only luck can bring any one money from dice game otherwise site will be the winner for sure.

As you said in sports betting we have some chances to win because there no house edge but still need some luck to win bets.


are you sure there is no house edge in sports betting ? i think you must learn a bit more about the game you play or promote my friend.
when making a sports book there is allways a margin (house edge) in any kind of such games - bookmakers are still like casino owners but they just offer a diferent game -.-


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Newcoins2020 on January 25, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Can't exactly when your luck is the right moment.
But some gambler may try their luck everyday and when they bet high amount + luck = they can win big unexpectedly

But often when someone arrives at your just won the chance for your you win smaller.

And if no one for a long time has not won is more likely, I think.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: BTCevo on January 25, 2016, 05:10:32 PM
Can't exactly when your luck is the right moment.
But some gambler may try their luck everyday and when they bet high amount + luck = they can win big unexpectedly

If they tried it everyday I dont think that he will aim for luck anymore, he just want to recover his loss because he will trying  to win on every games and everyday at least he will try to get some profit before get out. May be one day if he has this luck and big bet here I dont really think that he can recover their loss because I am sure he lose much before


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: NorrisK on January 25, 2016, 05:34:28 PM
Can't exactly when your luck is the right moment.
But some gambler may try their luck everyday and when they bet high amount + luck = they can win big unexpectedly

The problem with them is that they just cannot stop gambling.

There are countless examples of people hitting massive win streaks or jackpots, only to lose it over the next days and weeks.

And I'm not talking hundreds here, I'm talking millions of dollars.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: pearnapple on January 25, 2016, 07:48:31 PM
i actually never know how much should i play and for how long i should do that in order to end up in decent profits and make some good money out of gambling, in my opinion i should learn how to do that one day


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Newcoins2020 on January 26, 2016, 10:23:07 AM
I think to increase your chance. You must play a lot, but ofcourse it is a lot of money.

So if you gamble small amounts then you luck to win is small I think.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: poplolnman on January 26, 2016, 11:13:22 AM
I think to increase your chance. You must play a lot, but ofcourse it is a lot of money.

So if you gamble small amounts then you luck to win is small I think.

Yeahhh by playing many times with many rolls , the chance to get luck will come higher, just like what people do on luckyb.it , they rain a lot of bitcoin and it's often the high rollers get the jackpot 10 btc up to 100 btc, they might lost 1-3 bitcoin during the process but they found it's worth.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: znickelbackz on January 26, 2016, 01:57:51 PM
Can't exactly when your luck is the right moment.
But some gambler may try their luck everyday and when they bet high amount + luck = they can win big unexpectedly

The problem with them is that they just cannot stop gambling.

There are countless examples of people hitting massive win streaks or jackpots, only to lose it over the next days and weeks.

And I'm not talking hundreds here, I'm talking millions of dollars.

that's why the sentence "don't push your luck" was born. so many ppl have learned it when they were very young but so few ppl can do it.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: Newcoins2020 on January 26, 2016, 04:04:06 PM
and we say that the probability of winning is 50: 50 and that may require its own strategy and useful experience to catch a big win and that the probability is greater if you have in mind any plan , but at least we will have questions to the different methods of catching luck, they can take a lot of time and that in the end may not certain, but I think any good win can be caught, though, and the probability of the outcome will certainly be different using different methods
the easiest of course here speaks for itself roulette, bet big and you can easily catch a big prize, although it is possible to talk about personal luck, i.e. personal success, depends, probably, from their attitude to greed, though

You are right. You need luck. If you want luck ofcourse you need to play a lot.

And of course it costs a lot of money for if you invest you get too little not much money.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: pereira4 on January 26, 2016, 05:02:17 PM
After playing for some time, you develop some sort of sixth sense that will allow you know when you are starting to push it to far, you start feeling like an idiot because you know you are about to lose all of your money. When this pressing sense is activated you have to stop playing immediately, otherwise you'll lose. Of course the jackpot could always be 1 spin/roll away, but it's better to be safe and run with gains.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: onlinedragon on January 26, 2016, 05:05:45 PM
After playing for some time, you develop some sort of sixth sense that will allow you know when you are starting to push it to far, you start feeling like an idiot because you know you are about to lose all of your money. When this pressing sense is activated you have to stop playing immediately, otherwise you'll lose. Of course the jackpot could always be 1 spin/roll away, but it's better to be safe and run with gains.
The only way to stay safe is don't play. Less stress and more fun so stay away.


Title: Re: You ask how to win - did you know how to push your luck ?
Post by: fravia on January 26, 2016, 06:57:17 PM
Can't exactly when your luck is the right moment.
But some gambler may try their luck everyday and when they bet high amount + luck = they can win big unexpectedly

The problem with them is that they just cannot stop gambling.

There are countless examples of people hitting massive win streaks or jackpots, only to lose it over the next days and weeks.

And I'm not talking hundreds here, I'm talking millions of dollars.

that's why the sentence "don't push your luck" was born. so many ppl have learned it when they were very young but so few ppl can do it.
if you will not push your luck at all then you will surely be not able to earn some decent money out of gambling, if you want to win big then you will surely have to bet big amounts of your money