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Title: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: TheIrishman on November 25, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2UoNpx9.jpg

What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?

http://www.theguardian.com/teacher-network/2015/nov/25/what-can-we-learn-from-the-great-german-school-turnaround (http://www.theguardian.com/teacher-network/2015/nov/25/what-can-we-learn-from-the-great-german-school-turnaround)

<< In 2000, Germany experienced an uncomfortable reality check when the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) revealed disappointing results for performance and equality in its schools. The country tested below average in maths, reading and science in the Programme for International Assessment (http://www.oecd.org/pisa/) (PISA) report – and received the unwanted accolade of having the most unequal education performance among the 43 countries examined.

The results were a blow to a country that prides itself on its strong literary tradition and belief in social equality. "Germany's school system – and indeed the whole nation – was shocked by the first PISA results of 2000", says Christian Füeller, German author and commentator on education. "It revealed a broad group of 'at risk' students that could not properly read and were termed 'functional illiterates'. This seemed to destroy any notions of being Goethe's and Thomas Mann's 'kulturnation' of thinkers and poets."

Just over a decade later, Germany was celebrated in the same research. In 2012, it was one of just three countries surveyed by the OECD that reduced inequality while improving its math scores. The great "Pisa shock" led to what has now been called the "great turnaround" in German education. So, does Germany, with its complex and fragmented education system, and school days that have traditionally stopped at lunchtime, have a lesson or two to teach other countries? >>


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: saddampbuh on November 25, 2015, 09:53:03 PM
we learn that importing millions of low iq blacks and their offspring into your country is a bad idea


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: Lutpin on November 25, 2015, 09:54:53 PM
Comming out of Germanys educational system,
the short answer is: No.


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: Spendulus on November 26, 2015, 01:50:10 AM
https://i.imgur.com/2UoNpx9.jpg

What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?....
Just over a decade later, Germany was celebrated in the same research. In 2012, it was one of just three countries surveyed by the OECD that reduced inequality while improving its math scores. The great "Pisa shock" led to what has now been called the "great turnaround" in German education. So, does Germany, with its complex and fragmented education system, and school days that have traditionally stopped at lunchtime, have a lesson or two to teach other countries? >>

We can learn not to improperly generate premises, from which correct conclusions are obvious to the gullible.


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: manis on November 26, 2015, 08:55:46 AM
we learn that importing millions of low iq blacks and their offspring into your country is a bad idea

Or rather, if you do import them, they need a lot more support.

A significant proportion of low performers in the Pisa report were migrants, and central to turning things around was improving their language skills. “Due to their poor German, foreign students are usually assigned to Hauptschulen,” says Lujan. The introduction of subsidised all-day schools and comprehensives that don’t segregate by ability provides more language support and scope for integration, she argues.


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: farrukh on November 26, 2015, 08:58:55 AM
Hmm ... nice thread, keeping an eye out here.


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: vero on November 26, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
What the Germans should have done is copy the UK and swing heavily over to private schools. Our experience is clear that pupils from private schools get most of the best places in universities, especially the top universities, and also they go on to get all the best paid jobs. Unfortunately many of our families are too poor and unable to benefit from this skewing of life's opportunities and are holding back Britain from the real social advantages of being rich


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: jak1 on February 06, 2016, 11:17:27 AM
Private schools are good. First you have small groups of  pupils per class and teacher can dedicate time to each separately next they have all equipment needed for modern classes, experiments,and learn to think to use their knowledge,and some of them have direct way to the best universities of the world..


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: valta4065 on February 06, 2016, 11:25:16 AM
we learn that importing millions of low iq blacks and their offspring into your country is a bad idea

You idiot... You're just so dumb.... Each and every post of yours burn my eyes.

The "millions of low IQ blacks and their offsprings" are not millions stop bullshiting the numbers. There was just 1 million of immigrants in the whole Europe!!! And it happened only last years, this study concerns the 2000's education not the future one! You're comment is not only useless and false, but also the proof that you're not intelligent and humble enough to seek problems in your own system and correct them, you'd rather accuse people who weren't even there to feel strong and confident!


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: saddampbuh on February 06, 2016, 12:43:58 PM
The "millions of low IQ blacks and their offsprings" are not millions stop bullshiting the numbers. There was just 1 million of immigrants in the whole Europe!!!
https://i.imgur.com/xZh1JRD.png


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: yugo23 on February 06, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
The "millions of low IQ blacks and their offsprings" are not millions stop bullshiting the numbers. There was just 1 million of immigrants in the whole Europe!!!
https://i.imgur.com/xZh1JRD.png

Yeah but this leftie shit won't admit that Muslims are only migrants. Whereas we all know that Islam is the gift of immigration...

Well keep your gift at home thanks!


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: valta4065 on February 07, 2016, 02:08:40 PM
The "millions of low IQ blacks and their offsprings" are not millions stop bullshiting the numbers. There was just 1 million of immigrants in the whole Europe!!!
https://i.imgur.com/xZh1JRD.png

Aaaaaaaaaaaaah so the fact that the whole German education is criticized as being one of the worst in Western world is due to the 3.8% of blacks and Muslims?

Ok, didn't understand that, I'm probably partially black myself even if I don't know it xD

Thist statement is so ridiculous I can't even think of a way to explain you how dumb it is...

Ok let's try:
3.8% = not a lot = not responsible for the whole system failure

Did you get it?


Title: Re: What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?
Post by: salinizm on February 07, 2016, 02:15:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2UoNpx9.jpg

What can we learn from the great German school turnaround?

http://www.theguardian.com/teacher-network/2015/nov/25/what-can-we-learn-from-the-great-german-school-turnaround (http://www.theguardian.com/teacher-network/2015/nov/25/what-can-we-learn-from-the-great-german-school-turnaround)

<< In 2000, Germany experienced an uncomfortable reality check when the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) revealed disappointing results for performance and equality in its schools. The country tested below average in maths, reading and science in the Programme for International Assessment (http://www.oecd.org/pisa/) (PISA) report – and received the unwanted accolade of having the most unequal education performance among the 43 countries examined.

The results were a blow to a country that prides itself on its strong literary tradition and belief in social equality. "Germany's school system – and indeed the whole nation – was shocked by the first PISA results of 2000", says Christian Füeller, German author and commentator on education. "It revealed a broad group of 'at risk' students that could not properly read and were termed 'functional illiterates'. This seemed to destroy any notions of being Goethe's and Thomas Mann's 'kulturnation' of thinkers and poets."

Just over a decade later, Germany was celebrated in the same research. In 2012, it was one of just three countries surveyed by the OECD that reduced inequality while improving its math scores. The great "Pisa shock" led to what has now been called the "great turnaround" in German education. So, does Germany, with its complex and fragmented education system, and school days that have traditionally stopped at lunchtime, have a lesson or two to teach other countries? >>


they could find out their missing points in their education system.. it is a good thing ..