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Title: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: countryfree on November 25, 2015, 09:21:02 PM The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Among the people fighting IS, the most ardent fighters are probably the Kurds. They were fighting Irakis before IS, and they're also at war with Turkey. As Turkey has shown many times, it's more concerned about crushing Kurds than IS. Now that Turkey has also decided to fight Russians, Russia should support the creation of a free Kurdistan, just like I do. The international community allowed the creation of Israel in 1947, it is now time to allow the creation of Kurdistan. Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: Balthazar on November 25, 2015, 09:29:20 PM It's already discussed by among the top defence officials. Some of them are claiming that it's the only optimal solution for this case. They've decided to persuade Assad's government to review a possibility of closer collaboration with kurdish militia. Will see. ::)
Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: countryfree on November 26, 2015, 02:30:20 PM I hope this is discussed at the highest level. I sure don't know how things will turn out, but very few people expect Syria to go back to what it was in 2010. All its borders will be redesigned. Turkey will expect to gain some new territory, and Israel will look at opportunities (as always). The Kurds should get their share, too. Irak too could lose a lot to a new Kurdistan, as it has shown it's unable to maintain the rule of the law within its own legal borders.
Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: saddampbuh on November 26, 2015, 02:33:10 PM this is the best way to punish turkey for their aggression and support of terrorists
Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: troleybüs on November 26, 2015, 05:22:55 PM It's known that Russia is already supporting PKK for over 30 years. You have to know that, things are more complicated in the Middle East. Strategies have been changed simultaneously. Turkey fight with PKK but also fight with ISIS. (Government support ISIS privately) YPG (same as PKK outside of Turkey) also fight with ISIS. Russia support PKK and controlled early phase of ISIS. Things are more complicated than you know.
Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: croato on November 26, 2015, 05:43:58 PM In my opinion, Kurds deserve their country even before this latest incident when Turks shot airplane which was returning from mission against extremists, but maybe now they get help and actually achieve that.
Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: troleybüs on November 26, 2015, 06:52:09 PM In my opinion, Kurds deserve their country even before this latest incident when Turks shot airplane which was returning from mission against extremists, but maybe now they get help and actually achieve that. That's not true at all. Where did you read this? There isn't any ISIS militants there, except the fact that Russia is bombing Türkmen's. Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: Nemo1024 on November 26, 2015, 07:04:17 PM In my opinion, Kurds deserve their country even before this latest incident when Turks shot airplane which was returning from mission against extremists, but maybe now they get help and actually achieve that. That's not true at all. Where did you read this? There isn't any ISIS militants there, except the fact that Russia is bombing Türkmen's. Turkmen actually refers to the people of Turkmenistan ;) Now, if by above "Türkmen" you meant "cheap-oil-selling, head-chopping unenlightened scholars of Quaran".... Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: croato on November 26, 2015, 07:04:36 PM In my opinion, Kurds deserve their country even before this latest incident when Turks shot airplane which was returning from mission against extremists, but maybe now they get help and actually achieve that. That's not true at all. Where did you read this? There isn't any ISIS militants there, except the fact that Russia is bombing Türkmen's. Read my post again, i did not mention ISIS. I talk about extremists fighting regular Syria forces. Turkey support them as well as ISIS. Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: Nemo1024 on November 26, 2015, 07:42:09 PM I'll go with Lavrov's quote from https://www.rt.com/news/323404-lavrov-syria-s24-turkey/
Quote Earlier in the day, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu slammed Russia for "attacks on Turkmen" in Syria, which according to Ankara preceded the incident with the downed Su-24. The Russian FM said the region where the incident happened is not just home to Turkmen people. There are also hundreds of foreign fighters affiliated with known terrorist groups and elements of their infrastructure such as weapons depots and command points there, he said. I asked [Turkish FM Çavuşoğlu] whether Turkeys close attention to this region, including the calls to create a buffer zone there, was motivated by a desire to protect this infrastructure from destruction. I didnt receive any reply to this question, Lavrov said. He added the downing of the Russian warplane occurred shortly after a series of airstrikes on terrorist oil convoys and facilities by the Russian Air Force. The incident sheds new light on the issue, according to the Russian foreign minister. He added that even if Turkeys words were taken on face value, its actions contradict its own position expressed in 2012, after Syria took down a Turkish military plane. At the time, then-Prime Minister Erdogan told the Turkish parliament that a short incursion into another nations airspace cannot justify an attack on it. Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: Vika NSFW on November 26, 2015, 07:45:44 PM Who belive about a shot plane with no OK from USA as main coordinator of NATO there?
So Turkey, have 0 as target of reaction from Russia. Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: designerusa on January 11, 2016, 09:08:05 PM The enemy of my enemy is my friend. people who supports world peace, democracy and human rights should be side of Turkey. Nato exsists for western civicilization . Turkey is a part of it .Among the people fighting IS, the most ardent fighters are probably the Kurds. They were fighting Irakis before IS, and they're also at war with Turkey. As Turkey has shown many times, it's more concerned about crushing Kurds than IS. Now that Turkey has also decided to fight Russians, Russia should support the creation of a free Kurdistan, just like I do. The international community allowed the creation of Israel in 1947, it is now time to allow the creation of Kurdistan. Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: J. J. Phillips on January 11, 2016, 11:21:18 PM The enemy of my enemy is my friend. people who supports world peace, democracy and human rights should be side of Turkey. Nato exsists for western civicilization . Turkey is a part of it .Among the people fighting IS, the most ardent fighters are probably the Kurds. They were fighting Irakis before IS, and they're also at war with Turkey. As Turkey has shown many times, it's more concerned about crushing Kurds than IS. Now that Turkey has also decided to fight Russians, Russia should support the creation of a free Kurdistan, just like I do. The international community allowed the creation of Israel in 1947, it is now time to allow the creation of Kurdistan. Turkey has no redeeming qualities and the quicker it's in the dustbin of history the better. They're only in NATO because of the Cold War. The Cold War's been over for decades now. Even back then it was just a convenient place to put missles aimed at the Soviets. It's not like the turkish "culture" had anything to do with it. It would be better after the turks are all dead. Part of former turkey could be returned to the West/Christendom, converting the Mosques back into Churches. Part of former turkey could be given to Armenia, since the turks committed genocide against them (still denying that?). And part of former turkey could be given to the Kurds. That's my plan. I expect to get the Nobel Peace Prize for coming up with it. https://anonmgur.com/up/cbd1b5a49e91660a16bcec27bfcefb66.jpg Hi! I'm Mustafa Kemel, but my people are legally obligated to call me "Ataturk." This is my mother. She was a whore, so there's no telling who my dad was. When I became a teenager, I started fucking my mom myself. That's when she had my sister, on the left. Well, sister/daughter technically. My sister ended up getting fat, as you can see, but it was still fun fucking her after she got old enough (9). And that's the story of why I'm called "Father of the Turks." Title: Re: Russia should support a free Kurdistan Post by: Vika NSFW on January 12, 2016, 05:02:41 AM Hi! I'm Mustafa Kemel, but my people are legally obligated to call me "Ataturk." This is my mother. She was a whore, so there's no telling who my dad was. When I became a teenager, I started fucking my mom myself. That's when she had my sister, on the left. Well, sister/daughter technically. My sister ended up getting fat, as you can see, but it was still fun fucking her after she got old enough (9). And that's the story of why I'm called "Father of the Turks." Ohh, what a story... |
