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Title: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: katafrag on November 26, 2015, 03:42:52 PM
 :-* with love from Russia  :-* :-* :-* :-*

We are going to the mofoking moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qhhvDher0

http://8ch.net/pol/src/1448500714943.jpg


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: Paashaas on November 26, 2015, 04:26:22 PM
I think the recent rise has nothing to do with that, it's ISIS buying viagra with Bitcoin.

Hacking group Anonymous just made it happen :P

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3333608/ISIS-website-dark-web-hacked-replaced-advert-Viagra-prozac-message-telling-supporters-calm-down.html?ito=social-facebook


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: jaberwock on November 26, 2015, 04:35:32 PM
This isn't even on the news sites yet, I don't think the recent rise of price has anything to do with it, so far.

But if proven true, I think will be more fuel to pre black friday pump that is happening


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: NorrisK on November 26, 2015, 04:57:17 PM
I think the recent rise has nothing to do with that, it's ISIS buying viagra with Bitcoin.

Hacking group Anonymous just made it happen :P

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3333608/ISIS-website-dark-web-hacked-replaced-advert-Viagra-prozac-message-telling-supporters-calm-down.html?ito=social-facebook

They would be better of promoting something like pig meat. That would really unsettle them.

Anonymous is doing a good job at infiltrating the ISIS social media. Hope they can keep it up!


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: unent on November 26, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
This isn't even on the news sites yet, I don't think the recent rise of price has anything to do with it, so far.

But if proven true, I think will be more fuel to pre black friday pump that is happening

How will Russia's military actions affect Bitcoin's price?

I searched for the convoy strike news and found a few obscure websites verifying it, but no mainstream ones yet. Although I can understand how Black Friday affects Bitcoin's price I cannot understand how the Russian strike is going to affect Bitcoin's price.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: katafrag on November 26, 2015, 10:34:34 PM
This isn't even on the news sites yet, I don't think the recent rise of price has anything to do with it, so far.

But if proven true, I think will be more fuel to pre black friday pump that is happening

How will Russia's military actions affect Bitcoin's price?

I searched for the convoy strike news and found a few obscure websites verifying it, but no mainstream ones yet. Although I can understand how Black Friday affects Bitcoin's price I cannot understand how the Russian strike is going to affect Bitcoin's price.


well the markets were affected by the russian plane downing on monday morning, so if you see bitcoin as a safe heaven , every escalation can be gold for bitcoin.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: gentlemand on November 26, 2015, 11:04:07 PM
What on Earth are the folks who try to link astoundingly unrelated world events to Bitcoin on?

Even attempts to link it to things that really should be linked to it look rather sad.  


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: katafrag on November 26, 2015, 11:38:20 PM
What on Earth are the folks who try to link astoundingly unrelated world events to Bitcoin on?

Even attempts to link it to things that really should be linked to it look rather sad.  

FROM ZEROHEDGE:
Following yesterday's dramatic geopolitical shock, U.S. equity index futures rise as Russia has not escalated the confrontation with Turkey as some had feared, while Asian shares fall, reversing earlier gains. European stocks are rallying and the euro is falling on the back of a Reuters report that the ECB is mulling new measures to prop up lending, although it’s not clear at this point what the real impact from these measures would be.

As a result, global stocks are little changed for a second day as investors assess the geopolitical fallout from the downing of a Russian warplane by Turkey. U.S. President Barack Obama and French President Francois Hollande called for Russia and Turkey to avoid escalating the confrontation. Hollande meets German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Paris today before heading to Moscow tomorrow to meet President Vladimir Putin.

FOR ME BITCOIN IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO STOCKMARKETS , I RECEIVE DIVS IN BTC NOT FIAT, SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: Paractor on November 27, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
What on Earth are the folks who try to link astoundingly unrelated world events to Bitcoin on?

Even attempts to link it to things that really should be linked to it look rather sad.  

I do not know why they are linked. Bitcoin is banned in Russia, will the attack lift the ban?


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: LMGTFY on November 27, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
What on Earth are the folks who try to link astoundingly unrelated world events to Bitcoin on?

Even attempts to link it to things that really should be linked to it look rather sad.  

The OP has previous. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233069.0)

Remember when there was yet another incident in an ongoing conflict and BTC hit $1000 in a week? No? Me neither.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: NorrisK on November 27, 2015, 12:25:11 PM
What on Earth are the folks who try to link astoundingly unrelated world events to Bitcoin on?

Even attempts to link it to things that really should be linked to it look rather sad.  

The OP has previous. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233069.0)

Remember when there was yet another incident in an ongoing conflict and BTC hit $1000 in a week? No? Me neither.

Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: katafrag on November 27, 2015, 03:01:53 PM
What on Earth are the folks who try to link astoundingly unrelated world events to Bitcoin on?

Even attempts to link it to things that really should be linked to it look rather sad.  

The OP has previous. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233069.0)

Remember when there was yet another incident in an ongoing conflict and BTC hit $1000 in a week? No? Me neither.

Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting.

Thank you


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: bitlancr on November 27, 2015, 03:05:31 PM
What does this have to do with speculation if I may ask? I believe this belongs in the Politics and Society forum.

I do understand that world problems reflect on today's economics.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: tn211 on November 27, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
What does this have to do with speculation if I may ask? I believe this belongs in the Politics and Society forum.

I do understand that world problems reflect on today's economics.

Well if war comes that the economy will be shit.
And Bitcoin will increase :P


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: Denker on November 27, 2015, 03:50:05 PM
What does this have to do with speculation if I may ask? I believe this belongs in the Politics and Society forum.

I do understand that world problems reflect on today's economics.

Well if war comes that the economy will be shit.
And Bitcoin will increase :P

I thought war is made to stimulate the economy.
Isn't this how America is handling the situations all the time.Is the economy down let's make some war and all will be fine?!
This is all is a big mess.The average person has to suffer, doesn't matter which country, and the big guys are filling up their pockets with money made by blood.Disgusting!


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: lemmyK on November 27, 2015, 04:00:06 PM
YES ! GO RUSSIA GO


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: gentlemand on November 27, 2015, 04:00:32 PM

Well if war comes that the economy will be shit.
And Bitcoin will increase :P

I've always found that attitude something of a stretch.

'Hey, I can't pay my mortgage this month. My kids are starving and I'm wearing rags. Should I sell my car to survive so I can't work or transport us ever again or those bitcoins that are sitting doing nothing awaiting a possible future that may never come? Boy, that's a quandary.  


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: Dilla on November 27, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Is this true?


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: LMGTFY on November 28, 2015, 08:47:45 AM
The OP has previous. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233069.0)

Remember when there was yet another incident in an ongoing conflict and BTC hit $1000 in a week? No? Me neither.

Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting.

Thank you

Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin... - might, yes.

...as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems. - like Greece, Cyprus, the imposition or relaxation of capital controls in China? Nope, I'm calling "nonsense" on this part.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting. - it's interesting now, it's just not interesting in a "Bitcoin speculation" sense, but in a "Politics and society (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0)" sense.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: katafrag on November 28, 2015, 09:42:06 AM
The OP has previous. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233069.0)

Remember when there was yet another incident in an ongoing conflict and BTC hit $1000 in a week? No? Me neither.

Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting.

Thank you

Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin... - might, yes.

...as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems. - like Greece, Cyprus, the imposition or relaxation of capital controls in China? Nope, I'm calling "nonsense" on this part.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting. - it's interesting now, it's just not interesting in a "Bitcoin speculation" sense, but in a "Politics and society (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0)" sense.


Yes war stimulates economy,
And in ww2 gold was chased by germans and hidden by allies,stored by the swiss etc... ( is china the new switzerland if btc is the new gold?)
but war can also create huge debt in fiat economy
still thinking that price is also linked to politics
http://www.awesomescreenshot.com/image/790418/666f51e60c9873bada554393fe6573d7


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: LMGTFY on November 28, 2015, 09:57:16 AM
Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin... - might, yes.

...as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems. - like Greece, Cyprus, the imposition or relaxation of capital controls in China? Nope, I'm calling "nonsense" on this part.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting. - it's interesting now, it's just not interesting in a "Bitcoin speculation" sense, but in a "Politics and society (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0)" sense.


Yes war stimulates economy,
And in ww2 gold was chased by germans and hidden by allies,stored by the swiss etc... ( is china the new switzerland if btc is the new gold?)
but war can also create huge debt in fiat economy
still thinking that price is also linked to politics
http://www.awesomescreenshot.com/image/790418/666f51e60c9873bada554393fe6573d7

Discussions like yours take place all the time in the Politics and Society section, a section of this forum devoted to discussing politics, society, and their relevance to Bitcoin. This section of the forum is for discussing speculating with BTC. Think about it - are you really going to post in the Speculation section every time something happens in the world? There's a massive crisis in Northern Syria right now, with things happening every day. If these events had any significant impact on the price of BTC don't you think we'd have evidenced that by now? Despite your high hopes, we didn't see a major rise when that Russian jet went down - in fact we saw a fall a few days later. These events you're posting - I understand that they seem really important (from a BTC-perspective), but honestly - they're not.

I think someone else in this thread has already tackled the "war == profits!!!1!" belief far more eloquently than I could, but honestly I see these mini-war posts as leading to the same nonsensical argument - if the major powers get drawn into a hot conflict between themselves, instead of their proxies, it is not going to be Bitcoin's golden age - it's going to be war, and it's going to be hell.

PS. That image you posted. The Russian jet went down towards the end of the steep rise, a rise that had gone on for a couple of months. BTC prices fell a few days later. If you want credible evidence for your assumption, go back over a few years and compare geo-political events with BTC price. If you can't be bothered doing that, at least cherry-pick your data a bit more carefully.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: katafrag on November 28, 2015, 10:05:30 AM
Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin... - might, yes.

...as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems. - like Greece, Cyprus, the imposition or relaxation of capital controls in China? Nope, I'm calling "nonsense" on this part.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting. - it's interesting now, it's just not interesting in a "Bitcoin speculation" sense, but in a "Politics and society (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0)" sense.


Yes war stimulates economy,
And in ww2 gold was chased by germans and hidden by allies,stored by the swiss etc... ( is china the new switzerland if btc is the new gold?)
but war can also create huge debt in fiat economy
still thinking that price is also linked to politics
http://www.awesomescreenshot.com/image/790418/666f51e60c9873bada554393fe6573d7

Discussions like yours take place all the time in the Politics and Society section, a section of this forum devoted to discussing politics, society, and their relevance to Bitcoin. This section of the forum is for discussing speculating with BTC. Think about it - are you really going to post in the Speculation section every time something happens in the world? There's a massive crisis in Northern Syria right now, with things happening every day. If these events had any significant impact on the price of BTC don't you think we'd have evidenced that by now? Despite your high hopes, we didn't see a major rise when that Russian jet went down - in fact we saw a fall a few days later. These events you're posting - I understand that they seem really important (from a BTC-perspective), but honestly - they're not.

I think someone else in this thread has already tackled the "war == profits!!!1!" belief far more eloquently than I could, but honestly I see these mini-war posts as leading to the same nonsensical argument - if the major powers get drawn into a hot conflict between themselves, instead of their proxies, it is not going to be Bitcoin's golden age - it's going to be war, and it's going to be hell.

PS. That image you posted. The Russian jet went down towards the end of the steep rise, a rise that had gone on for a couple of months. BTC prices fell a few days later. If you want credible evidence for your assumption, go back over a few years and compare geo-political events with BTC price. If you can't be bothered doing that, at least cherry-pick your data a bit more carefully.

so no more war topics on a speculation forum i understand , you guys like going to a restaurant and talking about food and other restaurants . Or going on a holiday resort with your friends and talking about other resorts and how good it was there. I mean you guys must be boring in real life, wtf.  ;)



Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: LMGTFY on November 28, 2015, 10:15:29 AM
so no more war topics on a speculation forum i understand , you guys like going to a restaurant and talking about food and other restaurants . Or going on a holiday resort with your friends and talking about other resorts and how good it was there. I mean you guys must be boring in real life, wtf.  ;)



Or, you know, post in the relevant section. I'm assuming you don't go to the supermarket and ask to see a doctor, right? Or go to the library to fill your car up with petrol? By partitioning the forum into different sections it's possible to have these new things called "on-topic discussions" that the kids seem to be into.


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: katafrag on November 28, 2015, 10:17:52 AM
Any unrest might stimulate bitcoin... - might, yes.

...as it is not influenced by any government politics or economic problems. - like Greece, Cyprus, the imposition or relaxation of capital controls in China? Nope, I'm calling "nonsense" on this part.

If this stuff keeps escalating it might become interesting. - it's interesting now, it's just not interesting in a "Bitcoin speculation" sense, but in a "Politics and society (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0)" sense.


Yes war stimulates economy,
And in ww2 gold was chased by germans and hidden by allies,stored by the swiss etc... ( is china the new switzerland if btc is the new gold?)
but war can also create huge debt in fiat economy
still thinking that price is also linked to politics
http://www.awesomescreenshot.com/image/790418/666f51e60c9873bada554393fe6573d7

Discussions like yours take place all the time in the Politics and Society section, a section of this forum devoted to discussing politics, society, and their relevance to Bitcoin. This section of the forum is for discussing speculating with BTC. Think about it - are you really going to post in the Speculation section every time something happens in the world? There's a massive crisis in Northern Syria right now, with things happening every day. If these events had any significant impact on the price of BTC don't you think we'd have evidenced that by now? Despite your high hopes, we didn't see a major rise when that Russian jet went down - in fact we saw a fall a few days later. These events you're posting - I understand that they seem really important (from a BTC-perspective), but honestly - they're not.

I think someone else in this thread has already tackled the "war == profits!!!1!" belief far more eloquently than I could, but honestly I see these mini-war posts as leading to the same nonsensical argument - if the major powers get drawn into a hot conflict between themselves, instead of their proxies, it is not going to be Bitcoin's golden age - it's going to be war, and it's going to be hell.

PS. That image you posted. The Russian jet went down towards the end of the steep rise, a rise that had gone on for a couple of months. BTC prices fell a few days later. If you want credible evidence for your assumption, go back over a few years and compare geo-political events with BTC price. If you can't be bothered doing that, at least cherry-pick your data a bit more carefully.


Bro plane came down on 31 october here is the link

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34687990


Title: Re: BREAKING: RUSSIA STRIKES TURKISH CONVOY AMID AIRSPACE DISPUTE
Post by: LMGTFY on November 28, 2015, 10:21:32 AM
Bro plane came down on 31 october here is the link

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34687990

Bro price had been rising all through October. It actually saw a fall on 31 October, before resuming its climb for a few days. (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg60zczsg2015-10-01zeg2015-11-01ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv)