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Title: Brace yourselves...
Post by: proudhon on November 20, 2012, 01:59:59 AM
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http://bitcoinclock.com/ (http://bitcoinclock.com/)


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: smoothie on November 20, 2012, 02:00:46 AM
already priced in....

miners...well that's another story lol


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: SlaveInDebt on November 20, 2012, 02:16:30 AM
Predicting a massive dump and grab.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: smoothie on November 20, 2012, 02:19:02 AM
Predicting a massive dump and grab.

Oh the irony of a fat dump on halving day lol.....wouldn't surprise me.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: legitnick on November 20, 2012, 02:51:44 AM
Won't this make the price go up?  ???


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: helloworld on November 20, 2012, 02:58:13 AM
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http://bitcoinclock.com/ (http://bitcoinclock.com/)

Anyone else see that sword as a microphone at first?


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Ichthyo on November 20, 2012, 02:58:42 AM
Won't this make the price go up?  ???

of course, and since obviously "everyone" expects that, a failed rocket launch followed by a mini crash could indeed be the result.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: dextryn on November 20, 2012, 03:04:42 AM
Won't this make the price go up?  ???

of course, and since obviously "everyone" expects that, a failed rocket launch followed by a mini crash could indeed be the result.

I agree, it's not going to go up like everyone is hoping and then it's panic mode.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: ZIGGAP on November 20, 2012, 03:09:30 AM
The block reward halving will only have a psychological effect on the market. Almost 80% of all the Bitcoin in existence is just sitting sitting there. The block reward change will have 0 effect on supply.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Crypt_Current on November 20, 2012, 03:14:14 AM
My finger is hovering over the sell button --
-- because of speculation in this thread, or just because it's that time of the month?
You decide   ???


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: helloworld on November 20, 2012, 03:32:40 AM
My finger is hovering over the sell button --
-- because of speculation in this thread, or just because it's that time of the month?
You decide   ???

My finger is hovering over the hoard button --
-- next week's market is going to eat people alive and I don't want to be one of them.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: 420 on November 20, 2012, 05:20:56 AM
My finger is hovering over the sell button --
-- because of speculation in this thread, or just because it's that time of the month?
You decide   ???

My finger is hovering over the hoard button --
-- next week's market is going to eat people alive and I don't want to be one of them.


are you sure? not another 9 days
http://bitcoinclock.com/


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: byronbb on November 20, 2012, 05:36:12 AM
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Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: legitnick on November 20, 2012, 06:43:10 AM
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Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Realpra on November 20, 2012, 09:36:18 PM
The block reward halving will only have a psychological effect on the market. Almost 80% of all the Bitcoin in existence is just sitting sitting there. The block reward change will have 0 effect on supply.
Actually that would make it the opposite:
BTC moving around at a rapid pace would mean changes to creation rate would mean little, but if new money is a large part of the "money that moves" so to speak and it is halved then the money that moves is close to halved  and supply for new-comers with $ thus greatly affected.

There is gonna be panic buying and I will laugh at you all. Maybe I could take you seriously if your "logic" was not always like this:
Quote from: BTCForumpeps
1. Halving.
2. ASICS (totally not a scam).
3. ???
4. Mega drop in prices.

Less reward means fewer miner coins trying buy dollars for hardware upgrades/electrons/food - you can't price that in until it happens unless people have been investing a lot extra for the past 6 months continuously.
Price is not agreed on it is established by some in/out flow of BTC/$.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: damnek on November 20, 2012, 10:22:46 PM
Most people say that the last big rally was about pricing in the reward halving, I have an alternative theory.

Around June 25, Butterfly Labs opened the pre-orders for ASICS:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/bitcoin/prweb9637829.htm (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/bitcoin/prweb9637829.htm)

April and May have been pretty stable, but in June miners increasingly hold back bitcoins for later investment and speculators anticipate on a rally due to the pre-orders, so the price starts rising in June.

Next, I believe that not all coins taken in by BitPay immediately re-enter the market, as Tony Gallippi claims to have traded against pirate a few weeks after. Of course, this could partly be with his own coins or whatever, but seeing the price go up and knowing the numbers, I think he has chosen to make an informed bet. Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94708.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94708.0)

After that, there was nothing holding back the price, so a parabolic blowoff has to occur. This is bitcoin after all.

http://s11.postimage.org/txvbzuosh/chart.png

I'm just throwing in my perspective since it has been fairly quiet here today.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Kupsi on November 20, 2012, 10:36:41 PM
Won't this make the price go up?  ???

of course, and since obviously "everyone" expects that, a failed rocket launch followed by a mini crash could indeed be the result.
And since everyone believe a mini crash could be the result, we'll get a rally instead :)


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Chalkbot on November 20, 2012, 11:17:25 PM
Won't this make the price go up?  ???

of course, and since obviously "everyone" expects that, a failed rocket launch followed by a mini crash could indeed be the result.
And since everyone believe a mini crash could be the result, we'll get a rally instead :)

Or a mega crash?


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: smoothie on November 20, 2012, 11:31:10 PM
I still think people will profit take for the holidays.....gifts, booze, trips, etc.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: adamstgBit on November 21, 2012, 03:36:31 AM
I still think people will profit take for the holidays.....gifts, booze, trips, etc.

ya as the price goes up people will buy stuff for xmas and pay in btc. cool.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: foggyb on November 21, 2012, 03:46:39 AM
sounds like a stalemate to me.  :-\


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: 420 on November 21, 2012, 04:29:47 AM
buy and hold, don't try to day trade. GIANT SWINGS ahead


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: mobodick on November 21, 2012, 01:32:31 PM
"Brace yourselves..."



... my arms are starting to cramp up..
... can i please let go now?


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: mobodick on November 21, 2012, 01:34:14 PM

Yeah, well you should have gone to the dentists last week then, Gandalf...



Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: smoothie on November 21, 2012, 04:35:29 PM

FTFY


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: bitcoinbear on November 21, 2012, 08:37:20 PM
buy and hold, don't try to day trade. GIANT SWINGS ahead

But the giant swings are where the day traders make money. All this stability is horrible for day traders.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: thoughtfan on November 22, 2012, 09:09:02 AM
buy and hold, don't try to day trade. GIANT SWINGS ahead

But the giant swings are where the day traders make money.
...well the good ones do!  Giant swings are where the big trading profits are to be had (for the competent few) and trading losses (including some big) for everyone else who thought they could make a quick buck but don't really know what they were doing!  It's the vast numbers of people who convince themselves they know what they're doing (on MtGox or in the wider trading world) that never ceases to amaze me.  The actual number of people with the knowledge, the understanding, the discipline and the skill to trade long-term at a profit is very small - and certainly doesn't include me!


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: naima53 on November 22, 2012, 05:35:20 PM
\....\
Quote from: BTCForumpeps
1. Halving.
2. ASICS (totally not a scam).
3. ???
4. Mega drop in prices.
s
\....\
2. ASICS (totally not a scam).  If this happens, then we will see a huge amount of BTC will be sold for buy new hardware. :-\ (myself included)


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Realpra on November 22, 2012, 06:33:53 PM
2. ASICS (totally not a scam).  If this happens, then we will see a huge amount of BTC will be sold for buy new hardware. :-\ (myself included)
Well that actually makes sense.

I must admit I am a bit disappointed by how much time and effort the community is putting into mining while we still don't have a BTC credit card and the many other things Bitcoin needs done.

If all these geeks had spent half the energy they have spent on mining on something productive, BTC would be worth twice as much by now or more.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: ArticMine on November 22, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
2. ASICS (totally not a scam).  If this happens, then we will see a huge amount of BTC will be sold for buy new hardware. :-\ (myself included)
Well that actually makes sense.

I must admit I am a bit disappointed by how much time and effort the community is putting into mining while we still don't have a BTC credit card and the many other things Bitcoin needs done.

If all these geeks had spent half the energy they have spent on mining on something productive, BTC would be worth twice as much by now or more.

I disagree. Mining is the critically important solid foundation on which to build a lot of what Bitcoin needs. The higher the network hashrate the more secure Bitcoin becomes, and security is critical.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Jack1Rip1BurnIt on November 22, 2012, 08:49:26 PM
2. ASICS (totally not a scam).  If this happens, then we will see a huge amount of BTC will be sold for buy new hardware. :-\ (myself included)
Well that actually makes sense.

I must admit I am a bit disappointed by how much time and effort the community is putting into mining while we still don't have a BTC credit card and the many other things Bitcoin needs done.

If all these geeks had spent half the energy they have spent on mining on something productive, BTC would be worth twice as much by now or more.

I disagree. Mining is the critically important solid foundation on which to build a lot of what Bitcoin needs. The higher the network hashrate the more secure Bitcoin becomes, and security is critical.

Exactly. One keyword there "Foundation". Everything else will follow.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: helloworld on November 24, 2012, 12:33:33 PM
My finger is hovering over the sell button --
-- because of speculation in this thread, or just because it's that time of the month?
You decide   ???

My finger is hovering over the hoard button --
-- next week's market is going to eat people alive and I don't want to be one of them.


are you sure? not another 9 days
http://bitcoinclock.com/

Yeah, pretty sure I posted that on a Monday or Tuesday.
In 9 days would be "next week".


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: 420 on November 26, 2012, 01:17:17 AM
bitcoinclock is down

can't handle it:
http://bitcoinclock.com/


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: SlaveInDebt on November 26, 2012, 02:22:49 AM
bitcoinclock is down

can't handle it:
http://bitcoinclock.com/

28/11/12 16:00 EST


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: payb.tc on November 26, 2012, 02:37:43 AM
bitcoinclock is down

can't handle it:
http://bitcoinclock.com/

it's back up (for now). it was happily getting 1000 hits a day but has just got over 6000 hits in the last hour... no idea why yet*.
i put in a quick fix and will try putting in some kind of backup plan before the reward drop...


*linked to in someone's FS on slashdot :D


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: 420 on November 26, 2012, 02:42:56 AM
come on buddy, nov 29 or later :)


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: proudhon on November 28, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
5 blocks to go.  5

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Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Yuhfhrh on November 28, 2012, 02:32:31 PM

Its definitly time to brace ourselves  :D

4!


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: kibblesnbits on November 28, 2012, 03:03:25 PM
Feels like the odometer change.  209999!


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: Yuhfhrh on November 28, 2012, 03:08:10 PM
Happy halving day everyone!


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: proudhon on November 28, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
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Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: dancupid on November 28, 2012, 03:25:44 PM
[img.]http://some sort of fireworks type photo[/img]

longest 23 minutes of my life - I was desperate to pee.


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: bitcon on November 28, 2012, 03:27:23 PM
yup there she is!  slush's pool got it.   i can finally goto sleep now!

Reward-Drop ETA: 2016-11-25 23:26:30 UTC (208 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours)


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: kibblesnbits on November 28, 2012, 03:28:48 PM
http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000048b95347e83192f69cf0366076336c639f9b7228e9ba171342e?site=slush

Slush solved the first 25BTC block


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: 420 on November 28, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
laughing bear block


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: paulie_w on November 28, 2012, 11:12:26 PM
And nothing happens!


Title: Re: Brace yourselves...
Post by: proudhon on November 28, 2012, 11:34:13 PM
And nothing happens!

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