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Title: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Balthazar on December 05, 2015, 10:46:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/673255748579627008

Enough tolerance, just kill them all.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Lethn on December 05, 2015, 10:49:05 PM
I swear any time we hear the phrase "Not all muslims" from Muslims there's always several ready to prove them wrong, every fucking time.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Balthazar on December 05, 2015, 10:58:15 PM
I swear any time we hear the phrase "Not all muslims" from Muslims there's always several ready to prove them wrong, every fucking time.
There is a difference between moderate salafi ("refugee" or "democratic opposition against <insert name here>") and extremist salafi (IS, An-Nusra, Grey Wolves etc.). Extremist salafi wants to chop your head, while a moderate salafi is more civilized. He just eager to see how some extremist salafi chops your head and then scream that not all muslims are the same.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Hazir on December 05, 2015, 11:06:57 PM
As we can read on that twitter page - according to the people on the crime scene: "Bystander shouts 'you aren't a Muslim' at man that attacked commuter in London tube station this evening."
So attacker was not a Muslim apparently.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: panju1 on December 05, 2015, 11:28:42 PM
The amount of blood on the floor makes my stomach churn.  >:(
Probably, this is why they choose to slit necks - to make it as gory as possible.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: J. J. Phillips on December 05, 2015, 11:50:41 PM
The amount of blood on the floor makes my stomach churn.  >:(
Probably, this is why they choose to slit necks - to make it as gory as possible.

Actually, they probably do it because the Quran 8:12 says:

Quote from: lunatic
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

Muslims have literally been commanded by their god to do this. Others can yell "you no muslim, brotha" all they want. Quran 8:12 is a clear command from their god.

If there is a future, it will look back at this period with stunned disbelief at the madness required for the level of denial non-Muslims have achieved.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: jasonjm on December 06, 2015, 12:03:04 AM
Yay Europe. Let in your refugees. They love you. They love you to death.





Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: WaterSupply on December 06, 2015, 12:18:23 AM
This is happening far too often, I wonder when the real backlash will start in Europe? This seems to be a regular thing now, paris/london etc .... where next?


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: jasonjm on December 06, 2015, 12:20:23 AM
Europeans are the ultimate sheeple.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: krumblez on December 06, 2015, 12:41:04 AM
This 'kind' of stuff always happens around Christmas time, of course current events and the general pattern of terrorism (all over the world) are intensifying, this has happened throughout history, just media coverage is easily shared and instantly accessible now. It is a terrible part of our ongoing history.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: hunnaryb on December 06, 2015, 01:04:16 AM
I think we should remember that the ISIS do not represent the vast majority of muslims and we shouldn't assume that either.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: BCEmporium on December 06, 2015, 02:16:30 AM
C'mon! "Real Muslims" are like unicorns and fairies: They don't exist!
That thing is so shredded and beyond repair that all I can see is (what we call) Muslims complaining about (what we also call) Muslims being heretic and not "real Muslims". If even themselves can't tell what a "real Muslim" is, how can we?!  ::)


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2015, 03:48:15 AM
Yay Europe. Let in your refugees. They love you. They love you to death.

According to the latest reports, less than 10% of these "refugees" are from Syria. The remaining are economic migrants from countries such as Pakistan, Nigeria, Gambia, Bangladesh, Egypt, and Eritrea. I would like to know what sort of civil war is going on in these countries, and how these people can be termed as "refugees".


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Balthazar on December 06, 2015, 04:03:16 AM
Yay Europe. Let in your refugees. They love you. They love you to death.

According to the latest reports, less than 10% of these "refugees" are from Syria. The remaining are economic migrants from countries such as Pakistan, Nigeria, Gambia, Bangladesh, Egypt, and Eritrea. I would like to know what sort of civil war is going on in these countries, and how these people can be termed as "refugees".
I would like to add another question... I've seen a lot of interview video, the most of them have mobile phones like Samsung S6 or HTC One M8. Where did they got money to buy high-end smartphones, laptops, tablets and so on?

I can guess that somebody hires them to play a role of "refugee", but this leading me to conspiracy theory.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2015, 04:11:18 AM
I would like to add another question... I've seen a lot of interview video, the most of them have mobile phones like Samsung S6 or HTC One M8. Where did they got money to buy high-end smartphones, laptops, tablets and so on?

I can guess that somebody hires them to play a role of "refugee", but this leading me to conspiracy theory.

Well.. it costs somewhere around $10,000 to $15,000 for a Pakistani to immigrate to Europe, via Greece. If he is bringing his family members along, then the total cost can climb to more than $150,000. Now remember that the average annual income in Pakistan is just around $400. That tells a lot about these "refugees".


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: jasonjm on December 06, 2015, 06:04:58 AM
Yay Europe. Let in your refugees. They love you. They love you to death.

According to the latest reports, less than 10% of these "refugees" are from Syria. The remaining are economic migrants from countries such as Pakistan, Nigeria, Gambia, Bangladesh, Egypt, and Eritrea. I would like to know what sort of civil war is going on in these countries, and how these people can be termed as "refugees".

ok let me be more specific. Let your Muslim friends in, they love you.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Zawamiya on December 06, 2015, 07:02:57 AM
Too much muslim hate going on. We need to stop referring to ISIS as muslims because they are not!


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: hunnaryb on December 06, 2015, 07:11:52 AM
Too much muslim hate going on. We need to stop referring to ISIS as muslims because they are not!

No muslim hate here.. They are brothers in arms to me.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Aggressor66 on December 06, 2015, 07:55:49 AM
The tube in London is almost as dangerous as the underground in Paris. Most 'big' EU cities are now 50% unemployed Muslim or more and usually not the hard-working Turkish Muslims like you have in Germany but aggressive, angry, young, males. Brussels, Paris, London, Liege, Marsailles, and even Stockholm are now diverse cesspools too dangerous to stroll out at night anymore.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2015, 08:45:15 AM
The tube in London is almost as dangerous as the underground in Paris. Most 'big' EU cities are now 50% unemployed Muslim or more and usually not the hard-working Turkish Muslims like you have in Germany but aggressive, angry, young, males. Brussels, Paris, London, Liege, Marsailles, and even Stockholm are now diverse cesspools too dangerous to stroll out at night anymore.

There is a reason why these economic migrants are flocking to the big cities. Booze and women are easily available in these areas, unlike the rural districts where you can't survive without doing back-breaking labor. Also, rural folk tend to be more conservative, and less enthusiastic about the multi-cult project, at least when compared to the urban-dwellers.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: hunnaryb on December 06, 2015, 08:52:55 AM
The tube in London is almost as dangerous as the underground in Paris. Most 'big' EU cities are now 50% unemployed Muslim or more and usually not the hard-working Turkish Muslims like you have in Germany but aggressive, angry, young, males. Brussels, Paris, London, Liege, Marsailles, and even Stockholm are now diverse cesspools too dangerous to stroll out at night anymore.

There is a reason why these economic migrants are flocking to the big cities. Booze and women are easily available in these areas, unlike the rural districts where you can't survive without doing back-breaking labor. Also, rural folk tend to be more conservative, and less enthusiastic about the multi-cult project, at least when compared to the urban-dwellers.

Fighting the ISIS is killing their ideals. Not the people. If the ideals persist, there will always be people.

Booze and Women are not the reason people come to big cities.

They come because of the relative ease to live.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Lethn on December 06, 2015, 10:25:20 AM
Too much muslim hate going on. We need to stop referring to ISIS as muslims because they are not!

Just an FYI I don't hate just Muslims I hate all religion as I'm an Anarchist and this shit is precisely why, you can't seriously be writing off this shit can you? It's not just a problem with ISIS, this shit was happening long before ISIS came along.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: mohsin qureshi on December 06, 2015, 10:29:45 AM
NOT AGAIN ... In the world, where ever an incident like this to be done, and i heared about it, i just close my eyes and said that "not again", and assumed that this time not any muslim behind it. But i contineously wrong. WHY ? i dont know, why Muslims done theese type of criminal activities? why again and again. i dont know, but being a MUSLIM i feel sorry for them, because they defame the name of Islam, because they do all this on the name of Islam.
Their minds are confused i think, they even dont know in Islam, if someone kill any person for any Reason, he aactualy killed the whole mankind. This is the true Islam, and i dont know why they people do this again and again, I just pray to God :NOT AGAIN PLEASE".


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: BCEmporium on December 06, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Why?! Why not? Wasn't it what Muhammad did?
If you hate "those muslims" it actually means you hate Islam and just keep calling yourselves muslims for unknown reasons, maybe cultural background.
Why noy simply face the fact that Islam is an outdated hateful ideology? Religions can die, all it takes is its members to come to their senses and reason.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Ayoko on December 06, 2015, 12:05:43 PM
Well it's really not easy to talk if we are not a Muslim, because there frustration to defend themselves or prove themselves guilty is a great risk or you know something not easy to explain themselves.

From a Muslim perspective, the everyday life must be full of doubt and self-consciousness.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Balthazar on December 06, 2015, 01:38:59 PM
NOT AGAIN ... In the world, where ever an incident like this to be done, and i heared about it, i just close my eyes and said that "not again", and assumed that this time not any muslim behind it. But i contineously wrong. WHY ? i dont know, why Muslims done theese type of criminal activities? why again and again. i dont know, but being a MUSLIM i feel sorry for them, because they defame the name of Islam, because they do all this on the name of Islam.
Their minds are confused i think, they even dont know in Islam, if someone kill any person for any Reason, he aactualy killed the whole mankind. This is the true Islam, and i dont know why they people do this again and again, I just pray to God :NOT AGAIN PLEASE".

I swear any time we hear the phrase "Not all muslims" from Muslims there's always several ready to prove them wrong, every fucking time.
There is a difference between moderate salafi ("refugee" or "democratic opposition against <insert name here>") and extremist salafi (IS, An-Nusra, Grey Wolves etc.). Extremist salafi wants to chop your head, while a moderate salafi is more civilized. He just eager to see how some extremist salafi chops your head and then scream that not all muslims are the same.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: vero on December 06, 2015, 11:24:43 PM
This 'kind' of stuff always happens around Christmas time, of course current events and the general pattern of terrorism (all over the world) are intensifying, this has happened throughout history, just media coverage is easily shared and instantly accessible now. It is a terrible part of our ongoing history.
Ten years ago, a small group of Muslim Terrorists set off several bombs in the London subway, killing 52 civilians and injuring more than 700


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: subSTRATA on December 07, 2015, 01:08:50 AM
I think we should remember that the ISIS do not represent the vast majority of muslims and we shouldn't assume that either.
no, but the vast majority of media coverage is focused on the radical facet of islam, and a lot of people arent smart enough to make the assumption that not all human beings that happen to be muslim are warmongering religious nutjobs. now that theres an 'official' war going on, id expect more and more of these types of incidents to be happening, and as a result, the public's opinion of islam will probably worsen further.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 07, 2015, 02:04:33 AM
no, but the vast majority of media coverage is focused on the radical facet of islam, and a lot of people arent smart enough to make the assumption that not all human beings that happen to be muslim are warmongering religious nutjobs.

The majority of the Muslims may not be radicalized. But it is true that 99.99% of the terrorists are Muslims. If there are no Muslims living in a country, then the threat of terror attacks decline to near-ZERO. For example, people in countries such as Sweden, UK, and France lives under constant threat of new terrorist attacks, but those in Belarus don't give a rat's ass about it.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: jak1 on February 06, 2016, 11:24:50 AM
In big cities they have their quarts where they practice their laws and attack other people..in village and rural areas they won't be so protected and they avoid that areas..in London several quarts are under their control and other people avoid going there..similar black and arabic people contaminated in Athens Greece Kypseli and Omonia quarts..20 years ago or so  Kypseli was one friendly place with lot of caffes,taverns, bars and was a touristic place..now white people avoid that part of city, nobody goes there after dark and almost all crimes are committed there..first blacks started occupancy their cellars and step by step normal citizens moved to other parts of city and they take all quart..that's the way they work and from there they will try to spread in other parts


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: yugo23 on February 06, 2016, 01:41:58 PM
C'mon! "Real Muslims" are like unicorns and fairies: They don't exist!
That thing is so shredded and beyond repair that all I can see is (what we call) Muslims complaining about (what we also call) Muslims being heretic and not "real Muslims". If even themselves can't tell what a "real Muslim" is, how can we?!  ::)

Yeah lol! We keep hearing "they're not Muslim" but damn is there even a true Muslim here? If everyone says that then no problem to kick them out of Europe no? It's not islamophbic they're not Muslimes ;D


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: designerusa on February 06, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/673255748579627008

Enough tolerance, just kill them all.

this is so insane .. but europe is reapin the harvest of its evil plans.. if you exploit middle eeast recources, at the end of the day , the consequences will be like this.. source of europe's richness is middle east oil reserves..


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: a7mos on February 06, 2016, 04:31:45 PM
The amount of blood on the floor makes my stomach churn.  >:(
Probably, this is why they choose to slit necks - to make it as gory as possible.

Actually, they probably do it because the Quran 8:12 says:

Quote from: lunatic
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

Muslims have literally been commanded by their god to do this. Others can yell "you no muslim, brotha" all they want. Quran 8:12 is a clear command from their god.

If there is a future, it will look back at this period with stunned disbelief at the madness required for the level of denial non-Muslims have achieved.

You are Quoting a Quranic verse in its wrong place because this verse was revealed for a specific historical event which was the Battle of Badr. So you can not cite it in this context.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Lethn on February 06, 2016, 05:17:46 PM
Yeah yeah, keep making excuses for Islamic violence, look Christians had all sorts of disturbing shit in the bible that they have for the most part given up on because they know none of it is compatable in a peaceful democracy, even being against gays is pretty much ignored now, yet for whatever reason, Islamists have absolutely no problem clinging on to that medieval dark age bullshit, despite how many claim to despise it.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: Balthazar on February 06, 2016, 06:55:23 PM
Yeah yeah, keep making excuses for Islamic violence, look Christians had all sorts of disturbing shit in the bible that they have for the most part given up on because they know none of it is compatable in a peaceful democracy, even being against gays is pretty much ignored now, yet for whatever reason, Islamists have absolutely no problem clinging on to that medieval dark age bullshit, despite how many claim to despise it.
Majority of so-called european muslims are the most experienced hypocrites of this world. On the one hand, they declare that cherry-picking from the Qur'an is unacceptable, claiming that some statement is taken out of context. On the other, they are either happy to cut off someone's head, or at least they don't try prevent it. All what they're doing are just empty claims that such behaviour is incompatible with their religion of peace. They are continuing to watch the murders, rapes, abductions or terrorist attacks, silently and with a calm conscience.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: J. J. Phillips on February 06, 2016, 09:05:36 PM
The amount of blood on the floor makes my stomach churn.  >:(
Probably, this is why they choose to slit necks - to make it as gory as possible.

Actually, they probably do it because the Quran 8:12 says:

Quote from: lunatic
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

Muslims have literally been commanded by their god to do this. Others can yell "you no muslim, brotha" all they want. Quran 8:12 is a clear command from their god.

If there is a future, it will look back at this period with stunned disbelief at the madness required for the level of denial non-Muslims have achieved.

You are Quoting a Quranic verse in its wrong place because this verse was revealed for a specific historical event which was the Battle of Badr. So you can not cite it in this context.

Your assertion is ridiculous. As someone pointed out above, not only is it in the Quran, Muslims are following the commands today, on a regular basis.

But OK, fine, if we can pick parts of Mohammed's actions and teachings that were specific to the time and don't apply today, here's a suggestion: How about we decide all of Mohammed's actions and teachings belong in the 7th century? That would imply that none of the "message" applies today. Problem solved.


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: bizerinm on February 07, 2016, 12:19:32 AM
English people should organize and take back their cities from this barbarians..there are parts of London with sharia law..horrible


Title: Re: London stabbing: "This is for Syria", "You're not muslim!"
Post by: yugo23 on February 07, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
People who deny that religion is the root cause of these problems are denying the facts.

Muslims hate non-Muslims. 
Christians hate non Christians.
Jews hate non Jews.

If we had more secular society, we could outlaw religion and lock the religious people in
recovery centers, until they are cured from their delusions.  But unfortunately, majority
of people are religious and delusional.

I disagree! Christians manage to evolve with time! Now no Christian is going to kill someone randomly just ecause they're not Christian!

Islam never evolved and will never evolve! The more time passes, the more violent and ruthless it becomes!