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Title: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 26, 2012, 05:08:47 PM
What's stopping people from mining or owning the whole pie chart?

Is this legal? or allowed? Is there anything stopping that person?


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: goodbc on November 26, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
Not enough electrical power maybe?


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: Valalvax on November 26, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Nothing at all, except the hundreds of thousands of dollars it would take


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: ingrownpocket on November 26, 2012, 05:22:32 PM
Nothing at all, except the hundreds of thousands of dollars it would take
Or Euros, maybe. Just maybe.


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: SgtSpike on November 26, 2012, 05:27:46 PM
As long as at least one other person is mining, no single person or entity could own the whole pie chart, regardless of how much money is spent.

In order to acquire half of the pie chart, once ASICs are released, it would take $5M-$7.5M.  To acquire 3/4 of the pie, $10M-$15M.

Of course, given that all of the ASIC companies do want to see Bitcoin continue to succeed, it is unlikely that any of them would sell enough ASICs to any single person or company to acquire this much of the pie.  The person attempting to do this would need multiple purchases by multiple aliases from multiple ASIC vendors to actually achieve it.


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 26, 2012, 07:51:35 PM
What's stopping people from mining or owning the whole pie chart?

Is this legal? or allowed? Is there anything stopping that person?
People seem to be making assumption about which pie chart you are asking about.  I'm not as sure.  Which pie chart are you concerned about someone owning?


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: SgtSpike on November 26, 2012, 08:22:15 PM
What's stopping people from mining or owning the whole pie chart?

Is this legal? or allowed? Is there anything stopping that person?
People seem to be making assumption about which pie chart you are asking about.  I'm not as sure.  Which pie chart are you concerned about someone owning?
This is the only mining pie chart I know of.
https://blockchain.info/pools


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: hashkey on November 26, 2012, 08:35:33 PM
What's stopping people from mining or owning the whole pie chart?

Is this legal? or allowed? Is there anything stopping that person?

He must have thought that the Unknown portion in the pie is a hashrate from a single person ;D


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: Deafboy on November 26, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
What's wrong with you, people. These days I see questions like "Is this legal?" all over here.

But not to be entirely off-topic, overtaking the network by you own hashrate is perfectly allowed and legal. Abusing it to double spend may not.


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: Kazimir on November 27, 2012, 07:42:31 AM
"Legal" according to what country's law?

Bitcoin is not tied to any specific country, and as such not restricted by any law.


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: jgarzik on November 27, 2012, 09:34:33 AM
Bitcoin is not tied to any specific country, and as such not restricted by any law.

Quite the opposite.  Bitcoin use is bound by the laws of your local jurisdiction.



Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: Kazimir on November 27, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
Quite the opposite.  Bitcoin use is bound by the laws of your local jurisdiction.
Yeah right, I'd like to see that in action :)


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: SgtSpike on November 27, 2012, 04:28:33 PM
Quite the opposite.  Bitcoin use is bound by the laws of your local jurisdiction.
Yeah right, I'd like to see that in action :)

He never said it would be easy to enforce, but he is correct.


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: Aahzman on November 27, 2012, 04:48:32 PM
mmmmm pie.


Title: Re: Mega Miners? What's stopping them?
Post by: Gabi on November 27, 2012, 04:55:47 PM
Quote
In order to acquire half of the pie chart, once ASICs are released, it would take $5M-$7.5M.  To acquire 3/4 of the pie, $10M-$15M.
Wich is nothing for someone who can spend billions.