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DASH mixing takes a very long time :(


https://i.imgur.com/fbKCGV9.png



Months before, Evan made a big deal out of Masternode blinding







Masternode blinding was announced with much fanfare. All the usual suspects were so excited!



https://i.imgur.com/lNij9Qy.png
https://i.imgur.com/jXxQN96.png



But then it was delayed  :(






So now that both mobile wallets have been implemented, why hasn't the working Masternode Blinding been implemented into DASH? Why is it still taking 20+ hours to send a simple anon tx with DASH ?????

Answer: because it isn't a top priority at the moment.

It was and now it isn't.

Much of it has to do with the current buzzword going around at the time.

Wow so if we use the reduction of 80% then it originally took 100 hours to mix dash using dark send?

Either that or Evan spoke too soon because he behind the scenes developer wasnt done yet or evan straight up lied.

It seems the 20 hours should have been improved to 4 hours, but it was never actually implemented.

Was four hours suppose to be super fast?

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

In "Dash-talk" yes I guess so.

Their community appears to operate in an alternate dimension where time is not a factor of importance.

Are we going to get a response from the DASH crew on this or what?

Why is the Github showing 404 now? Has Masternode blinding been abandoned?

Are DASH users stuck with 20+ hours of mixing time to send a simple anon tx for the next 12-18 months?

You can have standard coins and anonymous coins in your DASH wallet. You can mix standard coins and they will become anonymous coins. This process currently takes time. When you have anonymous coins in your wallet you have mixed a month ago for example, you can spend them immediately, there's no waiting as they have already been mixed.

hats of to you sir, I laughed a lot, especially because it seems to be true also...

best regards

What a surprise. The usual trolls from the Monero community talking about Dash in a new thread (as usual).

Lovely  :-*

I see. So if I want to send an anon transaction of 100 DASH, I'll buy the coins on the exchange and send it to my DASH wallet.  Then I'll need to wait 20+ hours before I can send 100 DASH as an anon tx. How is that "Lighting fast" ? Have you ever seen a bolt of lightning in the sky for 20+ hours? Because I haven't  ::)

It takes 20+ hours for a Dash transaction.

The problem was supposedly fixed 8 months ago.

But Masternode blinding is MIA.

I'm sure there's a completely plausible Duffsplanation for this, just like there was for the "accidental" instamine.

https://i.imgur.com/7e0QNFy.png

I'm sorry you didn't like the answer.

If you don't have any anonymous coins mixed already and your use case is to keep buying them on an exchange so you can send them immediately, that opens you to all kinds of timing attack vulnerabilities. Perhaps rethinking your approach would be advisable.

FTFY

On April 9 2015 eduffield said anon Darksend transactions were "Lighting fast"





Yet it still takes atleast 20+ hours to send one. How is that lighting fast?

The failure to implement Masternode Blinding as promised would seem to explain the dumps for the past 6 months. Is this also the reason Stonehedge abandoned DASH?

Can we get an update from the DASH team about the ETA for Masternode Blinding? DASH mixing is horribly slow and unuseable. Thanks.

You missed that one where he says Darksend should be lightning fast now.

20 hours from that user above....is "LIGHTNING FAST"  :-\

Artic that was pretty smoooth.  :D

20 hours is just the tip of the iceberg look at below 72 hours:

I stand corrected..you posted this before me. Damn you!  :-[ LOL

I did some searching on DashTalk and I found out what happened to Masternode Blinding. Whatever the case, anything longer than Instant Mixing is unacceptable.


Source: https://dashtalk.org/threads/development-update-oct-19-2015.6429/

So he uses Bitcointalk to make positive announcements

and he uses Dashtalk to make negative announcements


DAPI will only be released in 12-18 months at the earliest (more likely never based on Evan's track record)

Until then, i guess DASH users are stuck with mixing times of 20 hours - 72 hours to send a simple anon tx.

Dash :(

Darksend is a joke of a solution, i can't believe how long it takes to mix coins. The dash dev team really doesn't care about its users if its only planning on improving Darksend in 12-18 months.

Can you tell me what the point of DASH is again besides to enable an instamine for Evan?

Poor altcoin discussion section, bombarded non-stop with Anti-Dash troll threads .. i wonder what the end-result will be.
oh wait, let me make a prediction : this whole altcoin discussion section (excluding the monero trolls of course) will start to
really really dislike OP and most likely the Monero community itself too ....

Great strategy guys, i'm sure it will work as effectively as all your previously executed strategies  ::)

    

On behalf of the Dash community we want to thank OP for creating this Dash related thread
which brings us the opportunity to further discuss Dash related topics....

So without further due we bring to you all a bit of Dash news we are all very excited about :

"The Nort American Bitcoin Conference 21 & 22 January 2016 in Miami"

https://i.imgur.com/WWxxm9q.jpg

Who do we find as speaker ?

https://i.imgur.com/66VVBLf.jpg

To be honest its not all that surprising to see Evan Duffield, lead developer of Dash mentioned there
as most of us remember him from the Proof of Honor Award of 2014

https://i.imgur.com/CM8rhv2.jpg

All that rest us to say then is :

"See you in Miami"
Credits to @alex-ru Productions:
Credits to tungfa


https://i.imgur.com/bfrMqYN.png
 (https://www.youtube.com/embed/sAOe7m320Uc)
(picture has link to YouTube video)

I find this thread funny. A Monero troll circle-jerk. No one cares except you sideshow clowns! You are just annoying everybody else with your spam agenda.

Not sure what you conspiracy theorists are going on about.

This thread is a sincere effort to understand what happened to the working and "impressive" masternode blinding, which was supposed to make your suuuuuper-slooooow mixing up to 80% faster. Instead it looks like eduffield completely FAILED to deliver and didn't post a single message about it on BCT

Seeing you Dash-holes talk about spam is pretty much the funniest thing ever. Look at all the anti-xmr threads you idiots are constantly bumping, and you have the nerve to talk about spam.  This isn't even a spam thread, it's a question about what happened to a feature that was widely announced by your own dev team.  

We definitely will see how it all ends. Right now it's not looking good for DASH - rebranded from privacy coin to "Social experiment" coin as soon as Evan realized he couldn't implement usable mixing  :D

Dash :(

Did that take you twenty hours to come up with?

I think it is a genuine question that should be answered by Evan.

And not with the excuse "well it's not that important".

The problem with that response is that it totally undermines the original reason he was selling/hyping that particular feature of Dark/Dash back then and all of his yuppies were "hooray"-ing about it.

Now some of those same people appear to think Evan not delivering on his own words is "irrelevant".

Some people like to get lied to? :-\

I would also like to hear Evans reason for dropping this. Show DASH supporters the respect the deserve by explaining why your plans changed.

What does "mixin" mean with XMR? Does Monero also use mixers to mix coins?

mixin - the amount of outputs taken from the block chain to mix with your outputs in your wallet.

So if you have the following outputs and want to send 431XMR:


1XMR
30XMR
400XMR

with a mixin of 5....

you will get 5 - 1 xmr outputs
                5 - 30 xmr ouputs
                 5 - 400xmr outputs

to mix with.

Outputs are broken down into powers of 10 so there is a mixable set on the block chain.

There is more to the privacy when you read the monero lab papers. The math backs the claims of using mixins at different levels.

Probably not the best explanation but that's my understanding of how it works based on reviewing the code.


Mixing can be done completely offline (generating the transaction) and you do not need other parties to mix with like with Dash/Coinjoin etc.

Eduffield has already proven that he has no respect for DASH holders, or anyone for that matter. Eduffield only cares about eduffield.

After all the hype and promises about masternode blinding "working" and being "quite impressive", he can't even admit he failed at implementing it. Instead, he says it's "delayed because mobile wallets", then the next "delay" is only mentioned on the Dashtalk forum, where this time it's "delayed for 12-18 months because devolution"

So since eduffield can't be bothered to respond to legitimate questions about his broken promises of masternode blinding, let me ask the Dash believers (if there are still any left): what makes you think eduffield will deliver on his current promises?  

It is traditional for the Miami NABC to troll the community by giving a platform to one notorious scammer.

This year it was Josh Garza of GAW and Paycoin.

Next year it's Evan Duffield's turn to peddle his Dash Masternode HYIP and Evolusham snake oil.

As for the "Proof of Honor" let's remember that Coins Source is not only pushing the Neucoin scam, but also literally for sale to the highest bidder (https://twitter.com/CoinsSource/status/636014626598088704).  IOW, they are the perfect entity to confer fake credentials and hype on shitcoins.

I wonder how much Duffield paid them for his mail-order degree in Scamology?   ;D

I'm not a big fan of DASH for various reasons. Mainly cuz of the Premine stuff. Here is my thoughts for what its worth.


A dev has only so many hours in the day to work on various projects. Masternode blinding is probably achievable, but it is getting delayed off because the DASH devs are prioritizing other stuff. The question you should ask is how are development resources being allocated.


It is my theory that DASH will do whatever is "trendy". Decentralized consensus is trendy. Privacy doesn't make the cut anymore, especially with regulatory attention on crypto. DASH wants to be mainstream. Its not darkcoin anymore, its fast scalable and smart, nobody is investing in any fintech privacy unicorns. Fast transactions isnt going to cut it either. Get ready for a name change.
 
Xcoin (x11) -> Darkcoin (Privacy) -> DASH (instant transactions) -> ??? (DAPI)

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That being said, use whatever coin makes you happy, I accepting dash on my sites. Just saying it like it is.

THEORY CONFIRMED:


"Sorry we won't have masternode blinding and get anon tx times under 20-72 hours for another 10 years."

"Masternode blinding is working fine on my secret testnet, but it's more important to prioritize [SHINY NEW OBJECT]."

/Duffsplanation

You should probably learn how to read. "DAPI will also include a vastly improved version of masternode blinding." is hardly a  negative announcement.

Yes of course  ::)  And i'm sure it will make you breakfast every morning too.

It's a negative announcement because once again eduffield has nothing but excuses to offer after failing to implement the masternode blinding he confirmed was working, delaying it for another 12-18 months

If this latest scandal should have taught you anything it's that eduffield's word is worth absolutely nothing. But i guess you went with the lifetime cult member package.

Yeah, coming up with a better idea is always a bad thing.

Keep drinking the kool-aid

There's no peer review to flesh out whether it is a good, bad, or similar idea. Now, taking the word of a man who claims that a flawed launch was due to incompetence rather than outright deception is a bad thing (at least from an investment standpoint).

Dash.... nothing but massive instamine fraud, broken tech, and broken promises :(