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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: xifer on November 27, 2012, 11:36:46 AM



Title: alwaysmining
Post by: xifer on November 27, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
seems to have accepted payments for several orders and left the building.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119300.0;all

But we know name and bank account - wondering what's best to do with that.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Exile on November 27, 2012, 12:16:17 PM
Was about to make the same thread myself. He has been on multiple times since and hasn't responded to any PM or sent the coins.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: anaalius on November 27, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
I have been waiting on 20BTC for over 48 hours now. No messages or replys.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: gineta on November 27, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
I have been waiting on 20BTC for over 48 hours now. No messages or replys.
If you have the bank account and you are in UK is easy make actions .
But If yo are not in UK you need to contact the cyber-crime police . If I am you I do that faster.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Eskimo on November 27, 2012, 06:34:28 PM
Hi
Been 48 hours since I transferred £100 to him for a purchase of BTC. I'm assuming I won't be getting my BTC, I was originally going to purchase £200 worth, just glad I didn't.



Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: dooglus on November 27, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Hi
Been 48 hours since I transferred £100 to him for a purchase of BTC. I'm assuming I won't be getting my BTC, I was originally going to purchase £200 worth, just glad I didn't.

Farmacist

I sent £255.50 for 35 BTC on Saturday 24th Nov and received the coins 5 hours later.  There was a delay due to him using MtGox as his wallet, apparently.

It seems I was one of the last to receive coins, and don't understand why he would send me the 35 BTC if he was intending to run off.

The amounts owing all seem to be less than 35 BTC.  It doesn't make sense to me that he would honour the big order and run off with the smaller ones.  But it is odd that he's no longer responding to PMs or on his thread (https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=119300).


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Exile on November 27, 2012, 06:55:12 PM
Hi
Been 48 hours since I transferred £100 to him for a purchase of BTC. I'm assuming I won't be getting my BTC, I was originally going to purchase £200 worth, just glad I didn't.

Farmacist

I sent £255.50 for 35 BTC on Saturday 24th Nov and received the coins 5 hours later.  There was a delay due to him using MtGox as his wallet, apparently.

It seems I was one of the last to receive coins, and don't understand why he would send me the 35 BTC if he was intending to run off.

The amounts owing all seem to be less than 35 BTC.  It doesn't make sense to me that he would honour the big order and run off with the smaller ones.  But it is odd that he's no longer responding to PMs or on his thread (https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=119300).

The combined total amount not paid for now is well in excess of 35BTC (mine was 30BTC alone). I imagine he had a swell of orders from all of us at once and then, after seeing the total he could make (I'd estimate we're looking close to £700 here - maybe more) for 'free' without giving the BTC he saw the opportunity as too good to miss. He's been on the forums multiple times since and hasn't responded to anyones PMs.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: dooglus on November 27, 2012, 07:00:48 PM
The combined total amount not paid for now is well in excess of 35BTC (mine was 30BTC alone). I imagine he had a swell of orders from all of us at once and then, after seeing the total he could make (I'd estimate we're looking close to £700 here - maybe more) for 'free' without giving the BTC he saw the opportunity as too good to miss. He's been on the forums multiple times since and hasn't responded to anyones PMs.

It's possible.

Another factor that made me believe he was honest is that I PMed him asking for 50 BTC, and he replied that the maximum was 35 BTC per customer at the moment.  What kind of scammer turns down free money like that?  I understand it's necessary in the early stage of running a Ponzi scheme, but not in this case.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 27, 2012, 07:03:18 PM
If I were a bad, dishonest fraudster or scammer I wouldn't dream of doing it for as pathetic and paltry sum as £700 so I often naïvely assume nobody else would either, but of course I might be overestimating other people's intelligence and appreciation of risk-reward-ratio concept a good deal of the time.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Exile on November 27, 2012, 07:04:10 PM
If I were a bad, dishonest fraudster or scammer I wouldn't dream of doing it for as pathetic and paltry sum as £700 so I often naïvely assume nobody else would either, but of course I might be overestimating other people's intelligence and appreciation of risk-reward-ratio concept a good deal of the time.

Greed is a hell of a drug.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 27, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
Greed is a hell of a drug.

I totally concur!

But £700 is not a helluva lot of money anymore. 700 true original Pounds Sterling (as in 700lbt of sterling silver), yes. :)


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: BitterLemons on November 27, 2012, 10:40:43 PM
Doog is a hero member, maybe it was to get one last bit of credibility before he ran off. Only thing I can think of.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: dooglus on November 27, 2012, 11:20:28 PM
Doog is a hero member, maybe it was to get one last bit of credibility before he ran off. Only thing I can think of.

During the 5 hours that I was waiting for the MtGox withdrawal to go through, I looked back through the thread, thinking I'd probably been ripped off, and noticed how few posts almost all the previous satisfied customers had, and thought it was possible they were all sockpuppet accounts.

Thing is, most of the orders which haven't been filled were placed while I was still waiting for payment.  My post was still saying "hey, I didn't get paid yet" when those orders were placed.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 28, 2012, 12:22:22 AM
I made at least two successful trades with Alwaysmining to the tune of BTC7,50 and the turnaround was fast. I know that ultimately, that's not absolute proof of anything, really.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: xifer on November 28, 2012, 11:56:24 AM
I made at least two successful trades with Alwaysmining to the tune of BTC7,50 and the turnaround was fast. I know that ultimately, that's not absolute proof of anything, really.
Clearly :-)

fact is i suspect most would rather take the loss than talk to the police about this account

M Haywood

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: bombasticbitcoin on November 28, 2012, 12:08:10 PM
They are not the account details I used to pay Alwaysmining.  I don't want to jump to conclusions but what is the possibility he has had his account cracked?

Edit : Sorry I was partly mistaken.  The sort code and account number are the same.  The name is different.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: anaalius on November 28, 2012, 12:25:31 PM
Xifer, those are the same details I transfered funds to.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 28, 2012, 02:06:41 PM
I made at least two successful trades with Alwaysmining to the tune of BTC7,50 and the turnaround was fast. I know that ultimately, that's not absolute proof of anything, really.
Clearly :-)

fact is i suspect most would rather take the loss than talk to the police about this account

M Haywood

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346

These were the account details given to me:

Payee:
MR CJ HOWARD

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346

Different name, yes?


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: bowen151 on November 28, 2012, 02:17:04 PM
Payee:
MR CJ HOWARD

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346
Payment details:
 
Amount:
£6.70 per coin

Thats the details he gave me when i asked for a quote. So you guys seem to have the right ones i'd say. Strange about the different name on the same account. Second card holder or authorised person to use it maybe?

Hope he signs in and actually speaks to one of you this time. This is not something that should be taken lightly. Money is moeny at the end of the day. We all work hard for our pitiful salaries and for some stokebag to swoop in and steal some of it is just not on, phone a LEO.

He needs a good kick up the arse!

EDIT: Just a thought here i'm having.

He offererd loan services....correct? Could we track down one of his loans and just have the person who owes money for it pay it out to some of you guys who were scammed?

Obviously a long shot as i doubt he would have forgotten to collect on a loan if he was going blackbeard on you :s


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: xifer on November 28, 2012, 02:48:57 PM
[decided not to post the address]

this may or may not be the correct person - google shows a couple of possible addresses


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 28, 2012, 02:53:48 PM
Since I'm not one of his aggrieved clients (he didn't shaft me), I won't be the one sending around the hit squad. ;D


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Exile on November 28, 2012, 03:02:26 PM
Any chance a moderator could post the IP address(es) they have for this user please?


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: BitterLemons on November 28, 2012, 05:24:27 PM
Question right now is what can we do about this? If he lives close then you can bet I am straight there to ask for my money.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 28, 2012, 05:28:30 PM
Question right now is what can we do about this? If he lives close then you can bet I am straight there to ask for my money.

That's why I wouldn't be too hasty to assume he's just run off with the l00t. Some kind of emergency may have intervened - it's been known to happen - though that does not adequately in itself explain how he's been online since without responding to PMs, if that indeed is the case.

Real scammers don't like disclosing their true identities in front of everyone's face, nor do most of them go out of their way to be sickeningly dishonest for a lousy 700 quid (but no doubt there are those that would!).

Just my 20.000 satoshi or so worth, though.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: dooglus on November 28, 2012, 05:50:04 PM
M Haywood

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346

That's the same sort code and account number I was given.  I wasn't given any name at all.  Perhaps the name field isn't really used.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: anaalius on November 28, 2012, 06:12:41 PM
M Haywood

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346

That's the same sort code and account number I was given.  I wasn't given any name at all.  Perhaps the name field isn't really used.

I was not given a name either, but asked for one and he replied with M Haywood.



Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: dooglus on November 28, 2012, 06:20:30 PM
I was not given a name either, but asked for one and he replied with M Haywood.

I put "AlwaysMining" in the name field when making the payment.  Payment still presumably went through.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: xifer on November 29, 2012, 08:58:17 AM
Payee:
MR CJ HOWARD

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346
Payment details:
 
Amount:
£6.70 per coin


We could set up DD to several charities for example


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Exile on December 06, 2012, 10:08:52 PM
The scumbag is back advertising his services. Please scammer tag him.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: theymos on December 06, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
Done.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Xch4ng3 on December 06, 2012, 11:58:55 PM
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud

If you're in the UK - you can report him too.


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: cheesemunger on December 07, 2012, 01:04:07 PM
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud

If you're in the UK - you can report him too.

Annoyingly that form crashes for me right near the end :/


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: xifer on December 15, 2012, 04:26:21 PM
How many people are reporting this guy?  I'm wondering if i should complete the form or not.

http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud

If you're in the UK - you can report him too.

Annoyingly that form crashes for me right near the end :/


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: xifer on December 31, 2012, 02:40:34 AM
Anyone that's made a payment to the bank account - can you please ask your bank for the correct account name fot the transaction and post it here?  I'll try my bank tomorrow.

Sort code:
60-17-17
Account number:
87537346


Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: Azelphur on January 29, 2013, 10:22:17 PM
Hi folks, I got some additional information today.

He tricked me into trading with him using another identity (bitpeter) although the trade was legitimate and he provided the bitcoin (he went first), I figured out later that they were one and the same due to same sort code, same IP, same location.

Here is another alias of the elusive alwaysminings for you folks, Mr Peter Knowles 87568829 601717

My sources for this information:
(20:15:58) bitpeter [5e07dd7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.7.221.123] entered the room.
(12:30:16) alwaysminings [5e07dd7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.7.221.123] entered the room.

I also have a possible location on the fellow.

(19:22:25) bitpeter: I am in the old town of margate
(19:22:31) Azelphur: cool in the town center?
(19:22:41) bitpeter: yeah on the seafront
(19:22:47) Azelphur: nice
(19:22:48) bitpeter: i live above the westcoast bar
(19:22:56) bitpeter: if you knw where that is
(19:23:33) Azelphur: cool

Which puts him Here (http://goo.gl/maps/CpHtE), the location also matches the GeoIP, so I think we have quite possibly found him :)



Title: Re: alwaysmining
Post by: fbastage on January 29, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
other aliases used on #bitcoin-otc

iampeterrabbit
peterotc
alwaysminings
superdude
rififjfnf
Michail1_  (squatting on a known user's nick: Michail1)
Cy|ta (squatting on a known user's nick: Cylta)
Cy1ta (squatting on a known user's nick: Cylta)
Mad7scientlst (squatting on a known user's nick: Mad7Scientist)
exOdeus_ (squatting on a known user's nick: ex0deus)
redsonny
json

http://otc.armed.us/otc/?*94.7.221.123* (http://otc.armed.us/otc/?*94.7.221.123*)
http://otc.armed.us/otc/?*90.211.11.29* (http://otc.armed.us/otc/?*90.211.11.29*)
http://otc.armed.us/otc/?*2.122.18.1* (http://otc.armed.us/otc/?*2.122.18.1*)