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Title: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: CIYAM on December 08, 2015, 02:55:35 AM
I have worn the negative trust now for 6 months and as I don't actually "trade" with anyone on this forum (nor have ever been involved with trading on this forum other than lending some BTC to a couple of forum members back in 2012) I think it makes very little sense for people to be warned "to trade with extreme caution" with myself.

The negative reputation is affecting the image of the open source project of the same name as my current forum name so this "collective punishment" is the real issue for me. If you are not willing to change the negative trust to neutral then I would like to request a username change (say to "Ian K.") so that a google search on the name of the open source project will not locate this forum account profile.

Also ever since the event that led to this negative trust I have made sure that I am not posting whilst "under the influence" nor paying any attention to trolls (so you could say that I've "learned my lesson").

BTW - I did try sending @BadBear a PM concerning this a while back but got no reply so have created this topic instead.


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: Quickseller on December 08, 2015, 03:14:47 AM
FWIW, I had replaced my negative trust rating a few months ago after seeing the OP explaining some of the technical aspects of Bitcoin to users who clearly did not have a solid understanding of how Bitcoin works, and otherwise constructively adding to Bitcoin related discussions.

At the end of the day, the BTC was returned, from an address other then where the forum's BTC was being held (http://blockchain.info/address/1BuANiueZAiNashSCfGV5Gmj9P8ReG1D8N), which would imply that if his claim (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084350.0) that he was unable to access the forum's BTC is to be believed then he repaid the forum it's BTC with his own money, and if it were to be believed that it was an extortion attempt, then CIYAM did quickly return the BTC when asked by theymos.


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: tarsua on December 08, 2015, 03:20:23 AM
You almost lost thousands of dollars worth of bitcoin, there is no way the rating will be removed, im even surprised that your rating is just -2


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: CIYAM on December 08, 2015, 03:27:48 AM
We are not comparing "apples to apples" here.

The key point is also that *zero* funds were lost (at the time I was not actually able to release the funds from address in question but instead privately held funds were sent to satisfy @theymos).


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: CIYAM on December 08, 2015, 03:28:42 AM
Where on earth did you come up with the figure of 250K worth of BTC (at least do the most basic of research before calling people scammers)?

To be a "scammer" is to have "scammed someone" - yet I scammed no-one.


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: tarsua on December 08, 2015, 03:29:21 AM
We are not comparing "apples to apples" here.

The key point is also that *zero* funds were lost (at the time I was not actually able to release the funds from address in question but instead privately held funds were sent to satisfy @theymos).

newbies in the lending forum receive negative ratings although in most cases zero funds are lost, i think the same principle applies here


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: CIYAM on December 08, 2015, 03:30:20 AM
newbies in the lending forum receive negative ratings although in most cases zero funds are lost, i think the same principle applies here

I did not seek to rip off anyone - it was a stupid angry moment and the funds were quickly returned. So again "not apples and apples".

You do realise that I had held 500 BTC for around a year on behalf of the forum and then returned most of that (the remainder was the 50 BTC that was also later returned) to @theymos?. If I were really a scammer then I think I would have made off with the 500 BTC.

Also - unlike quite a few of the other forum treasurers I didn't charge any fee at all for minding those funds.


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: tarsua on December 08, 2015, 03:34:32 AM
newbies in the lending forum receive negative ratings although in most cases zero funds are lost, i think the same principle applies here

I did not seek to rip off anyone - it was a stupid angry moment and the funds were quickly returned. So again "not apples and apples".

You do realise that I had held 500 BTC for around a year on behalf of the forum and then returned most of that (the remainder was the 50 BTC that was also later returned) to @theymos?. If I were really a scammer then I think I would have made off with the 500 BTC.

Also - unlike quite a few of the other forum treasurers I didn't charge any fee at all for minding those funds.

Doesnt matter if you returned the money or not, your actions proved that you clearly cannot be trusted by anyone to hold a significant amount of BTC


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: CIYAM on December 08, 2015, 03:37:44 AM
Doesnt matter if you returned the money or not, your actions proved that you clearly cannot be trusted by anyone to hold a significant amount of BTC

My point is that the "trade with extreme caution" doesn't apply to me as "I don't trade with anyone of this forum" (nor ever have).

Beyond the role I previously held as a forum treasurer I have never asked anyone to trust me with holding any BTC for them either (nor will I).

In any case I would request that for the sake of the open source project that my forum name be changed so at least this continual punishment is not a "group punishment".

Personally I am ready to stop participating in this forum anyway - but unfortunately this "profile" is going to keep on haunting the open source project.


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: CIYAM on December 08, 2015, 03:42:15 AM
Your story is changing, below is what you posted in June.

How are you saying that the story has changed (nothing I've posted in this topic that tries to change that)?

If I was ever trying to "change the story" don't you think I would have deleted posts (which I never did)?


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: BadBear on December 08, 2015, 03:50:02 AM
I'll change it tomorrow.


Title: Re: Request for @BadBear to change negative trust to neutral
Post by: CIYAM on December 08, 2015, 03:50:55 AM
I'll change it tomorrow.

Very much appreciated.

Locking this topic now.