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Title: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: pa on December 08, 2015, 11:27:45 PM
http://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/

http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3vzgnd/bitcoins_creator_satoshi_nakamoto_is_probably/


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: phlogistonq on December 08, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
Looks pretty convincing to me.

I'd say knowing with more certainty what the faith of his >1 million BTC stash is (if he is willing to tell) will bring stability or an increase. Markets don't like uncertainty.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: eddie13 on December 08, 2015, 11:45:57 PM
4th enzo and counting..


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: gentlemand on December 09, 2015, 12:03:51 AM
Hmm. It's certainly more compelling than some guy having mostly the same name. It all seems a little odd that it sounds like he was constantly quasi chomping at the bit to expose himself. I would've thought it would be the last thing someone like Satoshi would want. As ever let's see some signed addresses.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Hyena on December 09, 2015, 12:20:34 AM
If this guy really is Satoshi, would his life be in danger? I'm sure a lot of banksters would at least want him dead for creating bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: jubalix on December 09, 2015, 12:26:01 AM
yeah sound liek he wanted to be found,

Doesn't sound liek Satoshi....Satoshies posts were all business, no bullshit

IF satoshi was going to out he/she/it would just go sign his pgp key or whatever end of.


Damn I just realised this guy live right near me....


for me the best candidate for satoshi I have seen is sunnyking and or whoever made NXT, which may be the same person as sunny king.







Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Ibian on December 09, 2015, 12:32:39 AM
yawn


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: AmazonStuff on December 09, 2015, 12:47:21 AM
It's highly unlikely that Satoshi Nakamoto would say I'm Satoshi Nakamoto :D


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: gentlemand on December 09, 2015, 12:49:26 AM
Well, Satoshi's had 4/5 years off to work himself up into a batty egomaniac. Stranger things have happened. Perhaps this fella will emerge at a conference in a full on Satoshi supersuit and sign a message from the genesis block while fireworks explodes from his arse.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Hyena on December 09, 2015, 12:54:07 AM
Well, Satoshi's had 4/5 years off to work himself up into a batty egomaniac. Stranger things have happened. Perhaps this fella will emerge at a conference in a full on Satoshi supersuit and sign a message from the genesis block while fireworks explodes from his arse.

He could even claim to be god :D with his 1 000 000 bitcoins


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: RealMalatesta on December 09, 2015, 12:56:19 AM
If this guy really is Satoshi, would his life be in danger? I'm sure a lot of banksters would at least want him dead for creating bitcoin.

And the fact that his new company is involved in banking surely won't help to create a deep love... but the story will help his IPO...


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Hazir on December 09, 2015, 12:58:05 AM
Convincing or now, every evidence shown in this case could be fabricated with ease. They based their assumptions on bunch of old blog's entry and 'leaked' emails.
These type of evidence is not so hard to manipulate. Until I see some further proof there is no need to believe that this guy is real Satoshi.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: randy8777 on December 09, 2015, 01:08:30 AM
If this guy really is Satoshi, would his life be in danger? I'm sure a lot of banksters would at least want him dead for creating bitcoin.

it doesn't matter anymore since bitcoin is not operating with satoshi. bitcoin doesn't need satoshi anymore. his goal was to let people take care of it and bring bitcoin to the next level.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: podyx on December 09, 2015, 02:13:14 AM
Well, Satoshi's had 4/5 years off to work himself up into a batty egomaniac. Stranger things have happened. Perhaps this fella will emerge at a conference in a full on Satoshi supersuit and sign a message from the genesis block while fireworks explodes from his arse.

lmfao ;D


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Torque on December 09, 2015, 02:15:45 AM
Like Dorian, this guy is the real deal  ::)


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: r0ach on December 09, 2015, 02:22:28 AM
Probably bullish for price since things like ETFs are required to have public knowledge of who owns huge amounts that can manipulate markets up or down.  The details of this so called trust basically state it's purpose is to pump Bitcoin to the moon.  Sounds bullish to me!


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: keystroke on December 09, 2015, 03:41:25 AM
I have held my bitcoin up until now but I have to sell as unfortunately I only invest in cryptos with anonymous authors.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: BerndBrot on December 09, 2015, 04:48:01 AM
I don't understand how i never have heard of this guy?
Obviously blog posts can be faked but but there's an external liquidity report linked which shows he owned at least 200,000 bitcoins in 2013.
The report would be pretty hard to fake and should be verifiable.
He also owns the #1 most powerful privately owned supercomputer (C01N operated by Tulip Trading - lol) which is obviously bitcoin related.

Even if he's not Satoshi he looks like a big player in the bitcoin space...


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: chessnut on December 09, 2015, 05:03:16 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Ektra on December 09, 2015, 05:13:57 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu

The police are very quick to act when the smell of money is in the air, it seems..


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: r0ach on December 09, 2015, 05:22:34 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu

The police are very quick to act when the smell of money is in the air, it seems..

Are we talking about police or women?


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: NorrisK on December 09, 2015, 07:30:27 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu

The police are very quick to act when the smell of money is in the air, it seems..

This makes me sick actually. And it is also exactly the reason why Satoshi is hiding. This makes it look like he is a terrorist.
Let's hope for him he just got a little bit crazy and convinced himself he was satoshi somehow.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Amph on December 09, 2015, 08:35:04 AM
it sounds like he want to ride the satoshi name, just to be famous, and that's it, i don't care what he said or what he is

as long as he don't sign the address of satoshi, he can not convince anyone here besides those journalist


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: 600watt on December 09, 2015, 08:38:34 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu

The police are very quick to act when the smell of money is in the air, it seems..

This makes me sick actually. And it is also exactly the reason why Satoshi is hiding. This makes it look like he is a terrorist.
Let's hope for him he just got a little bit crazy and convinced himself he was satoshi somehow.


he is a terrorist. i can prove it (quote from guardian article):

Quote
The house was the only one on the street with a rubbish bin still outside, six days after the weekly Thursday collection



Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Fanpant on December 09, 2015, 08:50:51 AM
Like Dorian, this guy is the real deal  ::)

Dorian is more like Satoshi. I do not think Satoshi would own many business and still have time to create bitcoin. Bitcoin needs dedication.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Karartma1 on December 09, 2015, 09:42:22 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu

The police are very quick to act when the smell of money is in the air, it seems..

This makes me sick actually. And it is also exactly the reason why Satoshi is hiding. This makes it look like he is a terrorist.
Let's hope for him he just got a little bit crazy and convinced himself he was satoshi somehow.


he is a terrorist. i can prove it (quote from guardian article):

Quote
The house was the only one on the street with a rubbish bin still outside, six days after the weekly Thursday collection


Satoshi or not poor guy!Already wrecked by police!This is definitely why Satoshi will have to stay hidden as long as possible.
This world does not love geniuses because its made by small minds who suck life from them.
Never show yourself SN!


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: rjclarke2000 on December 09, 2015, 09:46:58 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu

The police are very quick to act when the smell of money is in the air, it seems..

This makes me sick actually. And it is also exactly the reason why Satoshi is hiding. This makes it look like he is a terrorist.
Let's hope for him he just got a little bit crazy and convinced himself he was satoshi somehow.


he is a terrorist. i can prove it (quote from guardian article):

Quote
The house was the only one on the street with a rubbish bin still outside, six days after the weekly Thursday collection




^^^this is bloody brilliant!! Good find 600watt. The man is brutal! Ha ha


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: AmazonStuff on December 09, 2015, 10:34:30 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_gu

The police are very quick to act when the smell of money is in the air, it seems..

Don't jump to conclusion, maybe he asked for their protection.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Loimu on December 09, 2015, 10:39:35 AM
Don't jump to conclusion, maybe he asked for their protection.

What makes you think so? Not likely at all from my perspective. It also reads this on the article;

Quote
The Australian Federal police said in a statement that the raids were not related to the bitcoin claims. “The AFP can confirm it has conducted search warrants to assist the Australian Taxation Office at a residence in Gordon and a business premises in Ryde, Sydney. This matter is unrelated to recent media reporting regarding the digital currency bitcoin.”

Boldings are mine. If Wright would have indeed asked this then it sounds like it does relate to the recent claims. Also what the taxation office would have anything to do with it?


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: AmazonStuff on December 09, 2015, 10:42:14 AM
Don't jump to conclusion, maybe he asked for their protection.

What makes you think so? Not likely at all from my perspective. It also reads this on the article;

Quote
The Australian Federal police said in a statement that the raids were not related to the bitcoin claims. “The AFP can confirm it has conducted search warrants to assist the Australian Taxation Office at a residence in Gordon and a business premises in Ryde, Sydney. This matter is unrelated to recent media reporting regarding the digital currency bitcoin.”

Boldings are mine. If Wright would have indeed asked this then it sounds like it does relate to the recent claims. Also what the taxation office would have anything to do with it?
I don't believe to everything I read, I read between the lines. It would be really a big coincidence that police is at his door exactly at this time because of tax report or something other than news that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Mickeyb on December 09, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
If this guy really is Satoshi, would his life be in danger? I'm sure a lot of banksters would at least want him dead for creating bitcoin.

Of course his life would be in danger, that's why I don't believe in these stories! This guy is way to smart to be found this easy. All these stories are just like Dorian Nakamoto story to me.

Also I don't cease to be surprised on the levels of rumors about Satoshi. This is like becoming a world's biggest mystery, who is Satoshi Nakamoto? :)


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: nakaone on December 09, 2015, 11:30:57 AM
Well, Satoshi's had 4/5 years off to work himself up into a batty egomaniac. Stranger things have happened. Perhaps this fella will emerge at a conference in a full on Satoshi supersuit and sign a message from the genesis block while fireworks explodes from his arse.

lmfao ;D

visualizing this made me fell out of my chair.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: rebuilder on December 09, 2015, 12:18:51 PM
If this guy really is Satoshi, would his life be in danger? I'm sure a lot of banksters would at least want him dead for creating bitcoin.

Right, because Bitcoin is wired to self-destruct in the event Satoshi's heart stops.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Denker on December 09, 2015, 12:19:48 PM
it sounds like he want to ride the satoshi name, just to be famous, and that's it, i don't care what he said or what he is

as long as he don't sign the address of satoshi, he can not convince anyone here besides those journalist

That's true!
Only a signed address is a 100% proof.Or he moves a very tiny amount of the old coins.
However this is huge marketing imo.You couldn't get any PR better than that.And the price keeps rising!


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Tzupy on December 09, 2015, 01:30:47 PM
The story at gizmodo:
http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692
What I understood from it is that there were several people working on bitcoin, but the lead was Dave Kleiman (aka Satoshi Nakamoto),
and both he and Craig Steven Wright mined between 1 and 2 million bitcoins. Since Dave Kleiman died in 2013, his brother Ira Kleiman
is in possession of the wallets(s). Something to keep in mind, about the possible fate of bitcoin hoarders, quoting from the article:

Kleiman was confined to a wheelchair after a motorcycle accident in 1995, and became a reclusive computer forensics obsessive thereafter. He died broke and in squalor, after suffering from infected bedsores. His body was found decomposing and surrounded by empty alcohol bottles and a loaded handgun. Bloody feces was tracked along the floor, and a bullet hole was found in his mattress, though no spent shell casings were found on the scene. But documents shared with Gizmodo suggest that Kleiman may have possessed a Bitcoin trust worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and seemed to be deeply involved with the currency and Wright’s plans.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Mervyn_Pumpkinhead on December 09, 2015, 01:31:10 PM
I have to say, that the guy certainly looks like someone, who would use the blockchain technology to create a get rich quick scheme that is based on artificial scarcity.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Paashaas on December 09, 2015, 01:46:32 PM
I hope like last time that the real Satoshi will come online and tell the world that he is not Craig Wrights....

"You will never catch me''  :D


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Ibian on December 09, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
This guy is not Satoshi until he cryptographically proves it. Back off already.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Cassius on December 09, 2015, 03:49:57 PM
The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: Cassius on December 09, 2015, 04:32:57 PM
No, because unless you provably delete your own copy, they're not transferred at all.


Title: Re: Is this Satoshi, and if so, what does his 1M btc mean for bitcoin's price?
Post by: helloeverybody on December 09, 2015, 04:59:49 PM
If that was satoshi then hes probably lost his private key and thats why hes not cashed out. Either that or he doesnt want to crash his creation.