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Other => Beginners & Help => Topic started by: 61197da925c1 on November 29, 2012, 01:01:18 AM



Title: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 29, 2012, 01:01:18 AM
Jalapeno 4.5 gigahash = $163 USD shipped
Little Single 30 gigahash = $683 USD shipped
Single 60 gigahash = $1333 USD shipped
Mini Rig 1.5 terahash = $30,247 USD shipped

To all those who are aware, the chips are coming December 11th, 2012. That means at that time the units are still not pieced together. They will most likely get your orders to you by January 2013, I mean it is a small corporation after all, this is typical behavior for a small corporation.

Can we all petition for an increase in hashing capacity? BTCFPGA is selling their basic 54 gigahash as 72 gigahash now AND their basic 27 gigahash as 36 gigahash!

It is a small request considering the circumstances. We might as well take advantage of it.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: ridgemont4 on November 29, 2012, 02:06:00 AM
How many bitcoins would 4.5 gigahash mine today? I have one on order. Will I plug it in and be disappointed? I'm too lazy to figured it out myself, and someone has already done the calculations, so why reinvent the wheel?


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: mjc on November 29, 2012, 03:41:07 AM
By the time the hash rate goes from 25 TH/s to 250 TH in March you will be making $0.81 per day.  Today you'd be making 10x that.  When the Hash rate goes to 500TH you'll be making 0.40 per day if the BTC stay about $12.  If the BTC rate goes up so does the amount you make.

I have two Sinlge's and Jallay on the way.  164,500 MH/s.  My two single FPGA just went from making $6 /day to $3 /day :-(

Looking to do some mining.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 29, 2012, 03:45:12 AM
how does two singles and jally equal 164.5 gh?


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: dust on November 29, 2012, 03:48:22 AM
How many bitcoins would 4.5 gigahash mine today? I have one on order. Will I plug it in and be disappointed? I'm too lazy to figured it out myself, and someone has already done the calculations, so why reinvent the wheel?
The amount 4.5 Gh.s would mine today isn't too important to you as the difficulty will be much higher when you receive your hardware.

Why did you order a mining device without first calculating the BTC it will mine at various difficulties and the electricity cost of operating it?

Can we all petition for an increase in hashing capacity? BTCFPGA is selling their basic 54 gigahash as 72 gigahash now AND their basic 27 gigahash as 36 gigahash!
Keep in mind that the BFL units will be more energy efficient than their bASIC counterparts, due to their 65nm vs 90nm process.  This this will counteract bASIC's higher GH/s/$ in the long term.

how does two singles and jally equal 164.5 gh?
It doesn't.  124.5 Gh/s is the correct total.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: ridgemont4 on November 29, 2012, 04:38:38 PM
How many bitcoins would 4.5 gigahash mine today? I have one on order. Will I plug it in and be disappointed? I'm too lazy to figured it out myself, and someone has already done the calculations, so why reinvent the wheel?
The amount 4.5 Gh.s would mine today isn't too important to you as the difficulty will be much higher when you receive your hardware.

Why did you order a mining device without first calculating the BTC it will mine at various difficulties and the electricity cost of operating it?

Can we all petition for an increase in hashing capacity? BTCFPGA is selling their basic 54 gigahash as 72 gigahash now AND their basic 27 gigahash as 36 gigahash!
Keep in mind that the BFL units will be more energy efficient than their bASIC counterparts, due to their 65nm vs 90nm process.  This this will counteract bASIC's higher GH/s/$ in the long term.

how does two singles and jally equal 164.5 gh?
It doesn't.  124.5 Gh/s is the correct total.

I did calculate but see, it's been a while and this Bitcoin world moves very quickly. I'm not a genius like yourself. Plus, it was only $163 total. Big deal. Then there's the option of trading it in for something faster if it ends up being too slow, or just sell it and move on. Not to mention, at the time I bought it, people were still willing to build FPGA rigs, spending $600+ on new cards. So my $163 investment for 4.5ghz did not seem to be very risky and still does not. In fact, it never will. $163 is cheap.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 29, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
A Jalapeno should make about $1-2,000 in one year


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: modcom on November 29, 2012, 05:20:56 PM
Uh, NO


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: MrTeal on November 29, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
A Jalapeno should make about $1-2,000 in one year
Then you should take out a couple mortgages on your house and buy 2000 of them, you'll be a millionaire in a year!


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 29, 2012, 05:54:29 PM
http://bitclockers.com/miningcalculator

YES IT DOES, exactly $ 1,679.21

and most people really are buying


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: MrTeal on November 29, 2012, 05:58:12 PM
http://bitclockers.com/miningcalculator

YES IT DOES, exactly $ 1,679.21

and most people really are buying
Well, if you say so.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: scrybe on November 29, 2012, 06:21:06 PM
http://bitclockers.com/miningcalculator

YES IT DOES, exactly $ 1,679.21

and most people really are buying

I wish I could see the look on your face when you realize that the difficulty changes and it is likely to be over 100,000,000 by the end of 2013, maybe as high as 250,000,000.

You better factor in all the folks that preordered from BFL back in June, July, August, September and October that will be getting their units before you, call it 35,000,000 difficulty

2% monthly difficulty growth is a joke, we will see something in the 10% range more likely.

Good news is that you should not lose money and can make some at the current BTC rate, and if the rate keeps going up you still have a chance to make some good money, but I would not count on more than 30-100% profit on your investment in the first year (additional 10-20% after year 1, retire after it stops making more money than electricity it burns)

Do some more research, you are in a good place with lots of info scattered around, but if you just believe the calculators you are going to lose your ass.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: Peter Jelinek on November 29, 2012, 07:10:04 PM
Cant want for first reviews !  :)


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: sifo on November 29, 2012, 07:12:37 PM
I hate this delays. If I calculate how much I earn with BFL unit now and they ship it in 6 months, reality will be far far away from my calculation.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 29, 2012, 07:22:27 PM
lol if anything an increase in hash capacity will increase the price per btc


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: Gabi on November 29, 2012, 07:23:53 PM
lol if anything an increase in hash capacity will increase the price per btc
Nonsense. Why?


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 29, 2012, 07:38:16 PM
hehe nothing just being hopeful ;)


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: arlekyn13 on November 29, 2012, 10:31:47 PM
lol if anything an increase in hash capacity will increase the price per btc
Nonsense. Why?

His statement would actually be correct if it'd be like: "lol if anything an increase in hash difficulty will increase the electricity price per btc"


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: mjc on November 30, 2012, 12:46:13 AM
A Jalapeno should make about $1-2,000 in one year

That is completely dependent on the Hash Rate.  As ASIC hit the market, the hash rate will go up by 10x, 20x or more.  When it does the little Jallay's will only make a few BTC a month or less.

If you are lucky enough to get one on the first day you might stand to make a little more initially.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: ridgemont4 on November 30, 2012, 01:33:53 AM
A Jalapeno should make about $1-2,000 in one year

That is completely dependent on the Hash Rate.  As ASIC hit the market, the hash rate will go up by 10x, 20x or more.  When it does the little Jallay's will only make a few BTC a month or less.

If you are lucky enough to get one on the first day you might stand to make a little more initially.

you take what you can get.


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: 61197da925c1 on November 30, 2012, 03:02:17 AM
i wish bfl didn't have such a gay, 1/3 random shipping crap


Title: Re: BFL ASICS coming soon
Post by: Negcreep on December 03, 2012, 10:40:50 AM
Well, if you ordered early you still get it early. The 1/3 shipping thing only applies to orders made in the first month of selling. The rest of the orders are on a first come first serve basis.