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Title: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: spazzdla on December 11, 2015, 04:12:23 PM
Wil you get caught?

Sell now cry later.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: NorrisK on December 11, 2015, 04:17:30 PM
If you are right we are going to be in for an amazing ride soon!
The curve to come is still very steep in that case and 2000 should easily be possible then.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: spazzdla on December 11, 2015, 08:01:46 PM
If you are right we are going to be in for an amazing ride soon!
The curve to come is still very steep in that case and 2000 should easily be possible then.

At this point... any shorter might be looking for a bridge in a couple months.  Becareful bears.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: TigerUppercut on December 11, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
A massive bear trap   ;D


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: randy8777 on December 11, 2015, 09:15:54 PM
i don't think it will fall that hard as when it did the previous time when it touched $500. i think it will stay above $500 and go even higher than that. we just need to have patience.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: MissionPhailed on December 11, 2015, 09:16:20 PM
I've been a bit bearish the last weeks and cashed out to compensate for previous years losses. Has to be seen yet if its really a bear trap, but volume and value reaching the stratosphere ATM indicates we're not dealing with a short and insignificant spike. Rougly $25 up in today and I assume $500 certainly isn't out of reach.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: Loimu on December 11, 2015, 09:30:40 PM
Yeah, it's going very well and solid right now. I don't think $500 will be an issue.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: NorrisK on December 12, 2015, 12:53:30 AM
I've been a bit bearish the last weeks and cashed out to compensate for previous years losses. Has to be seen yet if its really a bear trap, but volume and value reaching the stratosphere ATM indicates we're not dealing with a short and insignificant spike. Rougly $25 up in today and I assume $500 certainly isn't out of reach.

Unless you really need the cash, I would not try to compensate for losses from the year before. If you had hheld your coins, you would've had 10% "less losses" at this moment.

I don't feel your bearish sentiment at all. Ofcourse we will see retraces and stagnant periods, but in general, there is a big arrow going upwards. Don't try to aim for the peaks and vallyes, just keep floating on the waves and you'll reap the rewards sooner rather than later. 


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: MissionPhailed on December 12, 2015, 01:19:40 AM
I've been a bit bearish the last weeks and cashed out to compensate for previous years losses. Has to be seen yet if its really a bear trap, but volume and value reaching the stratosphere ATM indicates we're not dealing with a short and insignificant spike. Rougly $25 up in today and I assume $500 certainly isn't out of reach.

Unless you really need the cash, I would not try to compensate for losses from the year before. If you had hheld your coins, you would've had 10% "less losses" at this moment.

I don't feel your bearish sentiment at all. Ofcourse we will see retraces and stagnant periods, but in general, there is a big arrow going upwards. Don't try to aim for the peaks and vallyes, just keep floating on the waves and you'll reap the rewards sooner rather than later. 

The positive side is that I can't lose anymore; the worst-case scenario regarding crypto in my case is now getting 0 profit out of it. But yeah, me cashing out early is indeed illogical as I've got an abundance of cash these days. Color me nuts  ;)

Goal is now to accumulate crypto in various ways and indeed aiming for the long term. Perhaps a faucet nowadays could be worth a new phone in 2020, who knows ... !


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: panju1 on December 12, 2015, 06:34:03 AM
i don't think it will fall that hard as when it did the previous time when it touched $500. i think it will stay above $500 and go even higher than that. we just need to have patience.

Yes, this time $400 seems to be holding.
The only reason why this is scary is the move up (as well as the retrace) happened in a matter of hours.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: Emperor of Man on December 12, 2015, 06:52:59 AM
I just hope it falls as deep as possible (say, $2xx), so that I can buy a nasty number of BTCs. After that it can go to moon, no problem.  8)


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: 1Referee on December 12, 2015, 08:30:18 AM
I just hope it falls as deep as possible (say, $2xx), so that I can buy a nasty number of BTCs. After that it can go to moon, no problem.  8)

It won't. The price is acting like it always did. It will probably stay around $420-$440 for some time. It was exactly the same with the $200's and 300's range. For some reason $X20 - $X40 is where the price seems to level nicely. Not sure why, but it happens. Let the dumpers dump till they are satisfied, we can rise after that. There is no need to hurry in seeing the price go up.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: NorrisK on December 12, 2015, 01:06:02 PM
I just hope it falls as deep as possible (say, $2xx), so that I can buy a nasty number of BTCs. After that it can go to moon, no problem.  8)

Why didn't you buy 2-3 months ago then? Price was comfortably in the 2xx range and now you want it to go there again to buy.

Buy opportunity in the 2xx range is gone, and now everybody wants it back because they have seen bitcoin can get some life in it again, which they doubted after it was in that range for a long time. First signal it was going to leave was the first pump to 315.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: newcoins1978 on December 12, 2015, 02:31:28 PM
If you need it to pay bills it was best to sell yesterday. I'm just holding for now so I'm not too worried about the value of the bitcoin right now.
As long as it keeps on growing, with dips every now and then I'm good.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: n691309 on December 12, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
If you need it to pay bills it was best to sell yesterday. I'm just holding for now so I'm not too worried about the value of the bitcoin right now.
As long as it keeps on growing, with dips every now and then I'm good.
For paying bills then it's better to sell when you think it's the higher price, but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: Yrpapyrtersplooz on December 12, 2015, 02:37:56 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: n691309 on December 12, 2015, 02:41:41 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o
Maybe yes but i doubt, i know that last time the price crashed for more than 100 USD but i don't want to see it again now :(


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: maku on December 12, 2015, 02:43:25 PM
Well, apparently there is some crisis approaching from Wall Street as there is some major stock sells going on right now. I am not sure if this will affect bitcoin price directly, but I am started to get worried.
Rise of price already halted.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: anthonycamp on December 12, 2015, 02:44:47 PM
well into europe and china all good soo the btc might rise to 450$ at end of december and may rise a bit more to those 500$ after january the wall street crises its not world wide


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: Amph on December 12, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: n691309 on December 12, 2015, 03:12:39 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step
I like you that you are optimistic and gives us hope that it will be back to ~$500 again, let's see if it increases by this weekend.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: richardsNY on December 12, 2015, 03:52:14 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step
I like you that you are optimistic and gives us hope that it will be back to ~$500 again, let's see if it increases by this weekend.

He (Amph) doesn't get impressed by the price going up or down significantly at these price levels. He knows the long term will be much more rewarding if you dare to hold your coins. If you don't expect too much, then you won't get disappointed.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: pissedoff on December 12, 2015, 03:59:54 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step
I like you that you are optimistic and gives us hope that it will be back to ~$500 again, let's see if it increases by this weekend.

He (Amph) doesn't get impressed by the price going up or down significantly at these price levels. He knows the long term will be much more rewarding if you dare to hold your coins. If you don't expect too much, then you won't get disappointed.
You won't get disappointed either way even if you expect too much you will be happy and a little expectation also will make you happy.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: richardsNY on December 12, 2015, 04:06:56 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step
I like you that you are optimistic and gives us hope that it will be back to ~$500 again, let's see if it increases by this weekend.

He (Amph) doesn't get impressed by the price going up or down significantly at these price levels. He knows the long term will be much more rewarding if you dare to hold your coins. If you don't expect too much, then you won't get disappointed.
You won't get disappointed either way even if you expect too much you will be happy and a little expectation also will make you happy.

Look at what people were expecting from the Gemini exchange. People thought it would impact the price directly. After the launch of Gemini these people were immensely disappointed as nothing has happened to the price. Some were even saying it failed bla bla bla. That's what people do when expecting too much.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: n691309 on December 12, 2015, 04:09:27 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step
I like you that you are optimistic and gives us hope that it will be back to ~$500 again, let's see if it increases by this weekend.

He (Amph) doesn't get impressed by the price going up or down significantly at these price levels. He knows the long term will be much more rewarding if you dare to hold your coins. If you don't expect too much, then you won't get disappointed.
Old people sometimes are the smartest one because they have experience that's maybe the reason, but i expect $500 in few weeks to be hit the bitcoin price.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on December 12, 2015, 04:10:22 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step

All of the doubters that get in Bitcoin to make some quick cash and fail to understand the implications of the technology long term are all the people that will keep getting caught in those price corrections trying to play the market. It's unfortunate since all it would take is some patience to realize that you are being victim of constant bear traps.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: pissedoff on December 12, 2015, 04:10:32 PM
... but for now its not a good time as the price crashed for more than 50 USD

...and that's just the beginning. Wait til you see what happens next :o

it will increase again, because it was a simple trap to accumulate more

this is a common pattern, for every new kind of increase there is a small retracement to consolidate the price, we can not sustain an increase without a stop at every step
I like you that you are optimistic and gives us hope that it will be back to ~$500 again, let's see if it increases by this weekend.

He (Amph) doesn't get impressed by the price going up or down significantly at these price levels. He knows the long term will be much more rewarding if you dare to hold your coins. If you don't expect too much, then you won't get disappointed.
You won't get disappointed either way even if you expect too much you will be happy and a little expectation also will make you happy.

Look at what people were expecting from the Gemini exchange. People thought it would impact the price directly. After the launch of Gemini these people were immensely disappointed as nothing has happened to the price. Some were even saying it failed bla bla bla. That's what people do when expecting too much.
Yeah that's if your expecting for the short term. If you expect a lot you will also need to be patience to wait.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: amacar2 on December 12, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
Always checking the curve, we can see people are not selling even though price crashes very hard today morning. I will be buying at this stage not selling for 400+, looking for 500+ again this year to sell.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: Emperor of Man on December 12, 2015, 05:01:17 PM
I just hope it falls as deep as possible (say, $2xx), so that I can buy a nasty number of BTCs. After that it can go to moon, no problem.  8)

Why didn't you buy 2-3 months ago then? Price was comfortably in the 2xx range and now you want it to go there again to buy.

Buy opportunity in the 2xx range is gone, and now everybody wants it back because they have seen bitcoin can get some life in it again, which they doubted after it was in that range for a long time. First signal it was going to leave was the first pump to 315.
I did buy during that period. but what I have doesn't exactly qualify as "a nasty amount". Bad luck I guess, I didn't have enough money back then. Now I have.  ;D

So, Mr. Bitcoin please:



Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: Hashminers on December 12, 2015, 07:19:30 PM
I wish I can sell some of my bitcoin, but I have so little so I am just go to hold it for now.
I will just wait what will happen in 2016, I am just gana collect some.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: sishendaoye on December 12, 2015, 10:05:48 PM
The price can go back to 500 very easily. I've seen some buy support on several exchanges. If we can hold bitcoin, will be determined by the support.
if supports keeps on growing towards 480 I am sure 500 and stable is something we see in 2015.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: uki on December 13, 2015, 01:36:58 AM
Wil you get caught?

Sell now cry later.
until we pass $500 level on a stable basis, there can be always a double top. What is the reason for your optimism?


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: panju1 on December 13, 2015, 04:35:39 AM
The price can go back to 500 very easily. I've seen some buy support on several exchanges. If we can hold bitcoin, will be determined by the support.
if supports keeps on growing towards 480 I am sure 500 and stable is something we see in 2015.

Yes, there has been strong support on the way down from $500.
We are still comfortably placed at above $420.
So another run up can easily be supported.


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: TigerUppercut on December 13, 2015, 02:43:30 PM
Now we go up Gentlemen  ;D


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: White sugar on December 13, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
A 1 month bear trap?

Usually they are shorter, I don't think we are going to the moon as quickly as you say


Title: Re: The retrace from $500 was the bear trap
Post by: Nimbulan on December 13, 2015, 04:30:18 PM
the price of bitcoins will surely go to 500 dollars in my opinion or even more it has a lot of potential to grow im pretty sure 500 dollars is just a beginning and the price will rocket up to the sky after a few years