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Go outside, enjoy the weather.  Drink some water.  Sunlight really helps restore energy, all types.  Water heals the body and time isn't real, so drink up.

a full time job helps you mature and grow as a person. Why are you so against working?

How?  Only you can help yourself mature and grow as a person.

So being a useless bum is going to help you mature?


Getting by with nothing and having to sell all my belongings because a job is too much work? too much trouble?



No girl is going to want some loser that sits on a forum all day

I'm saying, nobody can teach yourself but yourself.  Teachers do not feed information into your brain, you have to absorb it yourself in order to understand it.

Which is why I'm going outside now.

Maybe make yourself a resume and get a job.. Quit being a bum.

Time isn't real to a stoner. 

Get some sunlight, and after getting some sunlight, get a few more, restore your energies until you overload and have insolation.
Time isn't real.
You will become old because you suck. Or whatever reason, but no matter what, it's not time fault.

Time is a man made concept to describe the amount of change that incurs, like a rotation around a planet.

Time and the notation of time aren't the same thing you breadless turd sandwich.

People who decide to make a public forum their battleground and ruin everyone else's fun will swiftly make their way onto my ignore list.

Then I wouldn't call you a stoner.

And thanks for the offer but I'll decline.  :)

I learned a while back, there's no point in judging someone if you don't know their story.  And you can't know their story if you don't live their life.  Otherwise, you're exerting your energy to express your single perception, for no real meaning or reason.  The only person you can really judge is yourself, and even then, why the hell would you judge yourself instead of love yourself?

Work really is a waste of time though.
The work ethic is a protestant invention.
Now, working pursuing something that validates one's existence makes sense, but spending 8 hours a day processing bureaucracy or selling products so that shareholders can make a profit is a bit pointless and is borderline religious.
It's irrational behavior that only makes sense in the context of the basic need to survive and provide for one's family. It's a necessary evil.
Most work is bullshit and a waste of one's single opportunity of existence.

Well of course working sucks. But it's a requirement. 


Work a 8-10 hour day and you really enjoy that family time so much more. If all I did was sit on my ass and wait for others to give me money. I would go mental..

LoL :P I'm just teasing. You're probably right.. I am not a stoner, plenty more to my life than smoking pot.

But it's not a requirement, it's a choice.  You can do more than sit on your ass if you're out of work, like, I don't know, explore earth?

Finding something you love to work on, that truly benefits the world is the trick.  

Otherwise, and for 99% of people: works sucks, and it's a scam to rob you of your energy, see: The Matrix

It's *really* sad that people equate not working with being lazy etc.  I'm guessing - American?  In actuality, the world is a mysterious and amazing place, and there isn't enough time for any of us to read any significant fraction of the great literatry works, learn a language or two, learn to draw and paint and sculpt, or play any number of instruments, or do any of the countless things you could be doing if you weren't imprisoned by your work.

The full time job prevents you from doing these things, therefore a full time job prevents you from growing and maturing as a person.  And your wife and kids would rather have you come home alive with life, vibrant, intelligant having enriched your life all day, rather than slaving away at a keyboard working for profit (paid in fiat no doubt).

OP was 100% right!  Also, some of us understand that and design our lives so our job IS outside in the fresh air and sunshine.

Oh wow...

...so what are you doing inside, posting on a forum?

(Honestly surprised this wasn't asked in the first reply.)

He's 18.  The default assumption is that he has an iPhone (or at least a smart phone/tablet which is glued to him).

 ;D

http://oneplusonedirect.com/man-freezes-to-death-in-ontario-snow-storm/851739/
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/midwest-storm-kills-15-east-coast-deep-arctic-deaths-wind-chill-sam-champion-12390281

The outside is not always your friend. We have had a week of sideways cold rain, which won't kill you very fast, but sure does suck.

Freezing here. I'm staying in today.

It has been cold lately.. Today is supposed to be rather mild.. about 13'C  :)

Sry you North Hemisphere guys, 27ºC here.
Well not exactly here, in my work is always something like ~20ºC.

Not bad. It has been below 0'C lately... Southern Ontario Canada :)

Yeah, Aussie/NZ weather reports start turning into tourism ads right around October.

I stayed in for most of last week because the temperature was nudging 40 C.  I hate El Niño years.

When you can find me a part-time job that pays the mortgage, puts food on the table, and pays for gas and other misc expenses, then I'll listen.  Otherwise... a full time job it is!

I live like no one else today so that I can live like no one else tomorrow.  And that includes working a full time job so that I can retire quickly and comfortably and have the monetary freedom to do whatever I damn well please.  ;)  I could be a bum too, but that would limit the possibilities of what I want to do/explore/see/learn in the future.

Why don't you get your parents to pay for your mortgage? #danklogic

Just curious... Do you think you will enjoy your retirement time with "monetary freedom" as much as you would enjoy your current time, when your capabilities, desire and willingness are at the peak? 

Currently, your full time job probably limits your abilities to enjoy life, develop yourself and enrich your understanding as much as you could afford having more free time.

Personally, I think when you reach "monetary freedom", you realize that it isn't so great as you expected...

I suppose I do not really see a way to live joblessly right now even if I wanted to, unless I wanted my family to be homeless.  So it's not really an option.

Regardless, I know that I live much happier when I am not financially stressed.  I also know that if I lived for today instead of tomorrow, I might enjoy it for a little bit, but then have to pay for it tenfold down the road.  Been there, done that already.  Now, I am focused on financial freedom.  Paying off my remaining debts as quickly as possible, saving money into investments, etc.  If I decided to enjoy myself "in my prime", I would very quickly imprison myself to working until whatever age at which social security would kick in.  Instead, I am using my prime to provide for my family and better myself in terms of employability by gaining experience, as well as continuing to set myself up for an early retirement and living stress-free with regards to my finances.

I am very happy with this choice.  I can see that you do not share the same sentiment, which is fine.  Some people like to live for today without regards for tomorrow, and I suppose they will be the ones still working a minimum wage job when they are 70 years old, waiting for the social security to finally kick in.  ;)

You won't have to pay ten fold if the system collapses, which it inevitably will, since money represents an I-O-U to the state. It's debt, like most of our economy. You can make something out of nothing, but it'll only exist until people stop believing in it.

But wealth doesn't have to be stored in money. More assets you have got if it collapses the better.

That's certainly a viable strategy to take.  I have seriously considered NOT paying down my debts beyond making minimum payments, and instead investing more, banking on some seriously high inflation in the near future.  But I suppose I would rather have the certainty of becoming debt-free instead of the uncertainty of betting on the economy.  When I am done with everything but the lower interest loans (student loans and mortgage), then I may reconsider my course of action...!

I see your point. But I also see how huge is money impact for you. You seem to be in a financial distress very deeply like most of the "normal" people. It also looks like you are not planning to change your values in a near future (money). It was your choice to take a mortgage, to have things, that you cannot afford now. Instead building it step by step, you have chosen to have it now, but pay higher price and have greater financial distress and liabilities.

Of course no one can blame people who have to obey the law and current financial system. You can't buy a house for your family by saving money in a pocket. But it is wrong system, that you have to take loan and then be full time slave for decades until you pay off and get a retirement.

 I thought the main idea of Bitcoin, was at least partially to escape current monetary system based on DEBT. But it is also important to notice that only people can change this. Bitcoin itself won't bring any fair system, if majority of users base their values on current "wrong" financial system.

Actually I support Dank opinion that current financial system is going to collapse anytime soon if people change their way of thinking and understanding "money and debt".

It obviously does not take a genius to realize the US financial system cannot sustain itself without change.

But maybe it even shouldn't sustain for the better?

No change can sustain it for any significant amount of time.  Let's try again, this time, without money.

Better idea: Let's try again, this time with sound money.

Barter sucks.

I'm not in financial distress any more, but I certainly have been in the past.  When my wife and I were newly married and both working, we had plenty of money, and we got into debt because of it (it's easy to tell yourself you'll pay it off when you clearly have the means to do so).  Then, we bought a house (still within our realm of financial ability), and she switched jobs to something much lower paying (uh oh, trouble).  Then we had a daughter, and she had to work fewer hours at this job (we're not believers in letting daycare raise your child).  So, we had a lot of smaller debts that added up to a lot of payments we had to make every month, and not enough money to make those payments for a few months.  I think we had 6 credit cards with balances on them, a car loan, a line of credit, etc.  We've paid off all but one at this point, in about 1.5 years.  And in that time, I switched jobs and am now paid several hundred a month more.  So we're comfortable, for now.  But I never want to take on more debt at any time in the future because of that experience.  Housing and investments may be the only exception.

Yes, back then, I absolutely chose to have things now instead of planning for the future.  I've been there, done that, and hated it.  Which is exactly why I refuse to live that way any longer.  Sure, I could live life "in my prime", not working and just doing whatever I feel like, but that doesn't properly support a family, it doesn't leave anything for my children, and it doesn't leave me feeling good about myself or my life.  I cannot think of a more selfish ambition than living for oneself and only today, and I try to not be a selfish person.

I don't think the system is wrong.  For one, people taking 30-year loans on houses are idiots (myself included).  A 15 year loan ensures that a person buys only as much house as they can afford and pays it off quickly.  Also, FHA is a scam (another mistake), as the required mortgage insurance eats away at money that could be paid towards principle.  Finally, housing is a supply-demand marketplace.  Of course everyone would love to own their own home, but homes are not free to build, and land is not limitless.  Those resources and services must be paid for.  Unfortunately, with expanding populations and needing to keep the planet sustainable, consumption of resources used for housing must be limited, which is done, in part, through regulating the logging industries.  I suppose the only part of the housing "system" that I don't believe in is zoning rules and urban growth boundaries.  People should be free to build what they want where they want, and the restrictions on those requirements do inflate housing prices.

Anyway, I suppose that your comment that the system has to change because it is unreasonable to expect people to slave away at loans for decades just reminds me of utopian dreamers who love to spout off ideals without any reasonable way of accomplishing them.  Please correct me if I am wrong, and if you do have a way to magically reduce housing prices.  ;)

Money is still greed.  We shouldn't have to trade things, we should be able to share our resources as a family.  Even then, why do you need anything?  All you need is in your soul.

FOOD STAMPS FOR EACH AND ALL!

Then your soul should be able to get you to the West Coast.  Why are you such a special snowflake that you can't get yourself from one side of the country to the other without money when young people have been getting themselves around the US, Europe, Asia and Australia without money for decades?  You could have already been to the West Coast and back by now if you actually got off your ass occasionally.

Bad idea, dank going solo to Europe is like the beginning of all the Hostel movies.

Translation: "I wish I could sit around all day scratching my arse, and everybody else provides for me so I don't have to lift a finger."

It will, perhaps it isn't time yet.

So, when exactly did you stop eating and drinking? I assume you also live in a cave high in the Himalayas, and are posting on the forum using the power of your mind.

You, sir, are my hero. I would climb the peaks to learn these abilities at your knee. Please leave your location in the Akashic Record so that I may receive it through my crown chakra and come to study with you.

Princess, you got a million people to entice to come to your event, never mind the fact that you need to actually plan it a little. 17 days left. Get moving.

Do you at least have something like a facebook event up yet?

Dank, have you considered using your soul as collateral to obtain a secured loan?

That's what I've been doing with Dank Bank.  Looking for investors.

Is it interest free or not? You changed the title, but not the OP.

Yes.

So what would be the incentive to loan you money? The lender takes all the risk, but gets nothing back. And don't reply with something dumb like 'lend for love'.

Basically your asking (begging) for donations, yet you refuse to get a job because your bone idle.

I think I'm going to vomit.

A million person concert isn't anything?  I'll give you the world, you have to believe it's yours though.

Nearly all jobs profit off the destruction of earth and humans.  I choose to play guitar and organize a music festival instead.  I'm giving you the chance to help usher in a new era of peace, love and freedom.  By helping me, you're helping yourself.

As we've discovered, an illegally run concert.

It may be interest free, but how do you intend to pay back the principal? This imaginary concert is free to attend.

I got a strong suspicion your just going to blow the money on drugs, to feed your own addiction. What a scam. And a poor one at that.  :(

As I've already explained, the concert is driven by donations. Just like anything in life, I can't make you contribute, I can only explain how it's in your best interest to do so.

I will pick a location within the next 7-10 days, hopefully. Just need a bike and it's off.

I've gathered a few additional contacts for DJs, producers and someone to get in touch with a couple of artist's managers.

Got to hear this. Please continue.

So the plan is to wait until December 18th to select a location, then blitz advertising in 3 days to get a million people to attend.

Genius.

Oh look, 9 days left before dankapalooza. I can't wait...

Because all these artists and their managers, plus the sound and lighting suppliers and operators, plus the DJs, plus the suppliers of food, water and toilets are all going to commit without even knowing the location of the venue.  Especially for an event which is scheduled for a few days before Christmas.  Because it's not likely anyone needs to organise transport, accommodation or moving their gear.

Remember. It's in your best interests to give Dank all your coins!!!

I wonder if mummy and daddy are going to cough up the money for the next three months of rent or whether another "mystery cheque" will arrive.  We can't expect dank to worry about things like rent when he has a music festival to organise and needs funds to get to California.

I feel bad for his parents. So sad...



If you worked for some of your money and had a hard time they would be more willing to help with the rest.


I really hope they don't keep paying your way so you can continue to be a jobless loser.

F minus 11 days and counting.

Not sure how Kid Cudi is going to fit the concert in around the new video he's shooting in a week or two.

The video will be shot at the concert, obviously.

dank's apparently run out of nonsense to post.  He's been online but hasn't posted for almost two days.

He even seems to have given up on fencing that watch, I sure hope that call I placed to the store didn't land him in any trouble with his parents...