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Economy => Micro Earnings => Topic started by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 05:34:02 PM



Title: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 05:34:02 PM
Have you blocked proxies with your .htaccess file? Have you noticed your traffic has slowed down? Yes you have blocked proxies but 99% are not bots! Most people use a proxy from their paid service that use proxies.So you are blocking your good traffic. Try using a proxy and doing faucets... it's not easy, they might do it for an hour and will get sick of it quick. Think about it ...you will need a lot of addresses ,change your ip ,do captchas to get into the site and do captchas to get a claim. So you double your work...don't believe me??  Try using TOR and try just twice. And another thing is this,most advertising bots use a proxy so they can't scan your site to submit to search engines.  If a user is using a proxy to scam he or she will still click on your ads if they want. So it might be worth it as well because in the long run he or she will stop doing it and do normal claims and eventually click on  ads.If you block they won't go back to your site even if they have good intentions.  good luck & best regards , Gifted


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Salmen on December 13, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
I'm working on a open source faucetbox faucet and it's protected against proxy. After the user solved the captcha, he'll see a error that he use Proxy and he don't receive the reward.
Perhaps it's better to block VPS because a VPS is a good thing to run bots.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 06:44:55 PM
I'm working on a open source faucetbox faucet and it's protected against proxy. After the user solved the captcha, he'll see a error that he use Proxy and he don't receive the reward.
Perhaps it's better to block VPS because a VPS is a good thing to run bots.
The best thing to do is just use funcaptha  . blocking vpn is  a proxy. my earnings have doubled since i took off anti-proxy.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Salmen on December 13, 2015, 06:50:14 PM
I'm working on a open source faucetbox faucet and it's protected against proxy. After the user solved the captcha, he'll see a error that he use Proxy and he don't receive the reward.
Perhaps it's better to block VPS because a VPS is a good thing to run bots.
The best thing to do is just use funcaptha  . blocking vpn is  a proxy. my earnings have doubled since i took off anti-proxy.
I see. While reCaptcha and Solvemedia show Images to choose or entering letters from image is this a easy job. Funcaptcha is a hard job for "Solve Captcha Service".
I'll integrate Funcaptcha. Thank you.

Cheers
Salmen


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 13, 2015, 06:55:13 PM
Do not share this idea, if it allows proxies, vpn, vps etc... they dry the faucet in hours.
The vps come over and over again by changing his IP.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: jackg on December 13, 2015, 06:59:32 PM
Do not share this idea, if it allows proxies, vpn, vps etc... they dry the faucet in hours.
The vps come over and over again by changing his IP.

And it's better than people that hack faucets for more than $500 an hour! Sites like freebitco.in are frequently hacked by users, these users can earn over $350 in total from doing this (hacking both the bitcoin version and doge version). Possibly why it is a good idea to only get one fixed reward amount for ever time someone logs on to it.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 07:03:53 PM
Im telling you from experience with my site here  http://bitcoinfaucetexchange.com (http://bitcoinfaucetexchange.com)  my profits have doubled since i took off the htaccess code for proxies and my site is not going dry. Funcapthca is too hard for bots.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Racey on December 13, 2015, 07:04:04 PM
I was blocked by a website, the only one ever.
They blocked me once before, then I was allowed back on, a few days later I got blocked again.
I am a real person not a bot  ;D


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 07:05:49 PM
I was blocked by a website, the only one ever.
They blocked me once before, then I was allowed back on, a few days later I got blocked again.
I am a real person not a bot  ;D
Me too, and this goes to show you i am right ! :)


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 13, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
I was blocked by a website, the only one ever.
They blocked me once before, then I was allowed back on, a few days later I got blocked again.
I am a real person not a bot  ;D
That says it for my website?


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Racey on December 13, 2015, 07:30:13 PM
I was blocked by a website, the only one ever.
They blocked me once before, then I was allowed back on, a few days later I got blocked again.
I am a real person not a bot  ;D
That says it for my website?


Yes, no fault of yours though, I heard that Virgin media changes my ip from 82.26.120.78 to some other ip
What I do not know?


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 13, 2015, 07:35:24 PM
I was blocked by a website, the only one ever.
They blocked me once before, then I was allowed back on, a few days later I got blocked again.
I am a real person not a bot  ;D
That says it for my website?


Yes, no fault of yours though, I heard that Virgin media changes my ip from 82.26.120.78 to some other ip
What I do not know?
I had advised a friend, the problem is that I blocked to Virgin Media I'm not sure if it distributes dedicated servers.
Now try and let me know.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 07:36:56 PM
I was blocked by a website, the only one ever.
They blocked me once before, then I was allowed back on, a few days later I got blocked again.
I am a real person not a bot  ;D
That says it for my website?


Yes, no fault of yours though, I heard that Virgin media changes my ip from 82.26.120.78 to some other ip
What I do not know?
I had advised a friend, the problem is that I blocked to Virgin Media I'm not sure if it distributes dedicated servers.
Now try and let me know.
virgin media subs out customers to prox because they have more sales then they can handle.. hence another reason blocking proxy is no good


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 07:39:40 PM
 @misterbit my ip is blocked from your site too without using a proxy 108.227.74.93


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Racey on December 13, 2015, 07:40:29 PM
I was blocked by a website, the only one ever.
They blocked me once before, then I was allowed back on, a few days later I got blocked again.
I am a real person not a bot  ;D
That says it for my website?


Yes, no fault of yours though, I heard that Virgin media changes my ip from 82.26.120.78 to some other ip
What I do not know?
I had advised a friend, the problem is that I blocked to Virgin Media I'm not sure if it distributes dedicated servers.
Now try and let me know.

Worked then, superb ;)
1550 Satoshi Was Sent To You On FaucetBOX.Com Congratulations!



Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: KnightTrader on December 13, 2015, 07:43:55 PM
One thing I dont understand here is difference between blocking address on .htaccess file and blocking proxies with script. I am using first mentioned method and not second method at the moment.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 07:44:47 PM
One thing I dont understand here is difference between blocking address on .htaccess file and blocking proxies with script. I am using first mentioned method and not second method at the moment.
You can do either and does the same thing


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 13, 2015, 07:48:21 PM
@misterbit my ip is blocked from your site too without using a proxy 108.227.74.93
It seems that it is behind a Proxy
Code:
http://ping.eu/proxy/


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: KnightTrader on December 13, 2015, 07:48:59 PM
One thing I dont understand here is difference between blocking address on .htaccess file and blocking proxies with script. I am using first mentioned method and not second method at the moment.
You can do either and does the same thing

Ok. Thanks. I guess the script method is more powerfull, because you have update .htaccess file frequently, but not script...


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 08:01:31 PM
One thing I dont understand here is difference between blocking address on .htaccess file and blocking proxies with script. I am using first mentioned method and not second method at the moment.
You can do either and does the same thing

Ok. Thanks. I guess the script method is more powerfull, because you have update .htaccess file frequently, but not script...
so you're still going to block proxy after what we just discussed?


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: KnightTrader on December 13, 2015, 08:07:50 PM
One thing I dont understand here is difference between blocking address on .htaccess file and blocking proxies with script. I am using first mentioned method and not second method at the moment.
You can do either and does the same thing

Ok. Thanks. I guess the script method is more powerfull, because you have update .htaccess file frequently, but not script...
so you're still going to block proxy after what we just discussed?

I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 13, 2015, 08:19:12 PM
One thing I dont understand here is difference between blocking address on .htaccess file and blocking proxies with script. I am using first mentioned method and not second method at the moment.
You can do either and does the same thing

Ok. Thanks. I guess the script method is more powerfull, because you have update .htaccess file frequently, but not script...
so you're still going to block proxy after what we just discussed?

I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.
LOL, that sucks are you using funcap now?


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: KnightTrader on December 13, 2015, 08:27:39 PM
One thing I dont understand here is difference between blocking address on .htaccess file and blocking proxies with script. I am using first mentioned method and not second method at the moment.
You can do either and does the same thing

Ok. Thanks. I guess the script method is more powerfull, because you have update .htaccess file frequently, but not script...
so you're still going to block proxy after what we just discussed?

I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.
LOL, that sucks are you using funcap now?
Yes I am using FunCaptcha now, that was good first aid to block bots, before that I used ReCaptcha what did not blocked bots at all.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: FaucetRank.com on December 14, 2015, 04:39:40 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 14, 2015, 04:47:32 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .
Search it in Google


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: FaucetRank.com on December 14, 2015, 04:50:29 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .
Search it in Google


I already searched many months ago it's a auto click bot.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 14, 2015, 05:02:01 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .
Search it in Google


I already searched many months ago it's a auto click bot.
The question would detect your ISP


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: FaucetRank.com on December 14, 2015, 05:11:55 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .
Search it in Google


I already searched many months ago it's a auto click bot.
The question would detect your ISP

Sorry, I didn't get you .


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 14, 2015, 05:15:11 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .
Search it in Google


I already searched many months ago it's a auto click bot.
The question would detect your ISP

Sorry, I didn't get you .
Detect who provides the service, Internet Service Provider, Singlehop, OVH ect...
Not can you capture your IP?


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: FaucetRank.com on December 14, 2015, 05:22:26 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .
Search it in Google


I already searched many months ago it's a auto click bot.
The question would detect your ISP

Sorry, I didn't get you .
Detect who provides the service, Internet Service Provider, Singlehop, OVH ect...
Not can you capture your IP?

How to detect ?


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 14, 2015, 05:31:31 AM
I dont know, not doing any changes right now. I really hate bots, before I switched to FunCaptha, I changed rewards to 1 satoshi and still those bots were claiming about every second that one satoshi.

and I know who is this mother fuc*er it's clarehillier@yahoo.com .

if you don't believe install supper counter online counter you'll see this link http://faucetrank.com/faucet/?r=clarehillier@yahoo.com online 24/7 changing IP continuously and claiming satoshi .
Search it in Google


I already searched many months ago it's a auto click bot.
The question would detect your ISP

Sorry, I didn't get you .
Detect who provides the service, Internet Service Provider, Singlehop, OVH ect...
Not can you capture your IP?

How to detect ?

The website of the mail server is Singlehop would try to block all the ips (range).
Code:
http://hostingcompass.com/whois/69.175.25.2
http://whois.domaintools.com/autoclickbots.com
Detect it would be quite complicated if your website has many visitors


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 14, 2015, 05:38:17 AM
Although it can also be someone getting through that person using your email.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 14, 2015, 05:41:02 AM
these are all the bits being sold http://autoclickbots.com/  maybe i should get a couple to see any flaws to protect from them


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 14, 2015, 05:48:23 AM
Although it can also be someone getting through that person using your email.

His name is.................. Andy Dawes  phone number +44.1495320639

                            Address              13 MORGAN ST ABERTILLERY GW NP13 1PL GB
and these are his other emails

lchun@yahoo.com
majumdar_partha@yahoo.com
m_haghani2000@yahoo.com
adcerna@yahoo.com
abiye_roya@yahoo.com
yasser1b@yahoo.com
raizkie19@yahoo.com
adsbaz@yahoo.com
popa_niculita@yahoo.com
mehdiboutorabi@yahoo.com


more info,
Domain Name: AUTOCLICKBOTS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1886915682_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2015-10-29T15:48:22.00Z
Creation Date: 2014-11-24T11:55:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-11-24T11:55:01.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Domain Status: ok https://www.icann.org/epp#ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: ANDY DAWES
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 13 MORGAN ST
Registrant City: ABERTILLERY
Registrant State/Province: GW
Registrant Postal Code: NP13 1PL
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.1495320639
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: CLAREHILLIER@YAHOO.COM
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: ANDY DAWES
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: 13 MORGAN ST
Admin City: ABERTILLERY
Admin State/Province: GW
Admin Postal Code: NP13 1PL
Admin Country: GB
Admin Phone: +44.1495320639
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: CLAREHILLIER@YAHOO.COM
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: ANDY DAWES
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 13 MORGAN ST
Tech City: ABERTILLERY
Tech State/Province: GW
Tech Postal Code: NP13 1PL
Tech Country: GB
Tech Phone: +44.1495320639
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: CLAREHILLIER@YAHOO.COM
Name Server: NS1.WEBSITEHOSTSERVER.NET
Name Server: NS1.WEBSITEHOSTSERVER.NET
DNSSEC: unSigned
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@enom.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-10-29T15:48:22.00Z

your welcome,   ;D

source: http://website.informer.com/email/CLAREHILLIER@YAHOO.COM


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: btc4 on December 14, 2015, 05:51:45 AM
i think some users at here using bots. maybe they want suasion faucet owners! 3 month ago i lost ~0.65btc less than 2 days from bot attacks.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: FaucetRank.com on December 14, 2015, 08:05:05 AM
i think some users at here using bots. maybe they want suasion faucet owners! 3 month ago i lost ~0.65btc less than 2 days from bot attacks.
Thanks to fun captcha preventing tthis bot. But still it is loading my faucet page and it's consuming bandwdith.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: FaucetRank.com on December 14, 2015, 11:54:20 AM
these are all the bits being sold http://autoclickbots.com/  maybe i should get a couple to see any flaws to protect from them

I sent a support message to them see what they replied -:

" Unfortunately CoinCollector does not support funcaptcha's at the moment,

but will be updated to do so in a future update,

 

Also, some useful info for you, ..

If you are referring to all the faucets in ePay then the fun captcha's at their faucets can be avoided by using a UK IP address,

please be aware that this is only possible to do with ePay's faucet list ! "
So fun captcha is no more 100% secure .


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: FaucetRank.com on December 16, 2015, 01:03:19 PM
So did anyone find any flaw in that bot to protect from faucet ? please share.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: Gifted on December 16, 2015, 09:03:12 PM
So did anyone find any flaw in that bot to protect from faucet ? please share.
The only thing is funcaptha  .  but also there is some kind of math question you can add to your faucet that works.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: maokoto on December 16, 2015, 10:03:31 PM
I totally agree with OP. I use a proxy out of necessity, as I have to work online reviewing search engines as if I was in another country. To have to turn the proxy down to do faucets is not an option (as I do faucets while I am working between page loads, and turning it on and off takes some time).

I am sure many users are just as me.


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: misterbit on December 17, 2015, 04:16:07 AM
We are sure that there are people who must use a proxy by necessity but when it comes to money is another story.
 


Title: Re: Why blocking proxies is not a good idea.
Post by: amacar2 on December 17, 2015, 04:47:23 AM
Don't the captcha service provider like funcaptcha work better against bots? If the person is using proxy will be fine but bots are always headache for any site.