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Title: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: tacotime on December 02, 2012, 06:52:01 PM
coinotron, litecoinpool, and notroll are all down.

burnside's pool is still up, though.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 06:53:22 PM
LOL taco. I posted a thread at the same exact time!  ;D Great minds think alike!


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: smoothie on December 02, 2012, 06:53:29 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 06:55:26 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

Great idea!!!  ;D

I am worried someone is trying to perform a 51% attack on the chain.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Kanabis on December 02, 2012, 06:56:12 PM
poolx.eu has been down for days


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on December 02, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

Epic Fail. Decentralization is the solution.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: tacotime on December 02, 2012, 06:58:03 PM
eh, it's not a huge deal.  most of us have enough mh/s to solo mine so a 51% attack is still outrageously hard.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Brunic on December 02, 2012, 06:59:41 PM
Yeah, the network is still at 921 MH/s.

There's too much solo miners in LTC, pools are in minority.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: tacotime on December 02, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
ozcoin down too ;________________;


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: SaltySpitoon on December 02, 2012, 07:02:28 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

Great idea!!!  ;D

I am worried someone is trying to perform a 51% attack on the chain.

After the BCX fiasco, new anti 51% attack code was added to LTC, so its much more difficult than just having 51% of the network strength. I don't know, people just seem to get bored and ddos Litecoin pools. Just gotta wait it out.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: bitcool on December 02, 2012, 07:08:35 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

Great idea!!!  ;D

I am worried someone is trying to perform a 51% attack on the chain.

After the BCX fiasco, new anti 51% attack code was added to LTC, so its much more difficult than just having 51% of the network strength. I don't know, people just seem to get bored and ddos Litecoin pools. Just gotta wait it out.

I won't be so sanguine about this, the timing the attacker(s) picked seems to be perfect, just as difficulty overshot and some miners have (temporarily) pulled the plugs:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128346.msg1373028#msg1373028

If the attack fails, it's almost pathetic.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 07:14:05 PM
May I suggest: http://www.incapsula.com/ (http://www.incapsula.com/) or http://www.cloudflare.com/ (http://www.cloudflare.com/)


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 07:19:10 PM
Yeah, the network is still at 921 MH/s.

There's too much solo miners in LTC, pools are in minority.

I'd be willing to bet the person with a large chunk of that 921Mh is the one doing the Ddos'ing, otherwise what's the point?

I'd guess it's a bot net owner or a group of hackers that run a bot net would make more since. They kill all the big pools, and all the sudden they solve many more blocks.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: smoothie on December 02, 2012, 07:22:21 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

Epic Fail. Decentralization is the solution.

Yeah, adding more pools makes it more decentralized genius.

LOL where do these idiots come from? The SolidcoinTalk forums? MicroRash Forums?  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
Yeah, the network is still at 921 MH/s.

There's too much solo miners in LTC, pools are in minority.

I'd be willing to bet the person with a large chunk of that 921Mh is the one doing the Ddos'ing, otherwise what's the point?

I'd guess it's a bot net owner or a group of hackers that run a bot net would make more since. They kill all the big pools, and all the sudden they solve many more blocks.

More likely a group of hackers who are pushing off as many people as possible so they can initiate double-spend attacks while they hold the majority of the hashing power for the LTC blockchain.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 07:24:27 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

The people with "private pools" are the ones committing the DDoS...


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: smoothie on December 02, 2012, 07:28:12 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

The people with "private pools" are the ones committing the DDoS...

Proof that there are private pools we do not know about? Oh wait if you had proof they would not be private. LOL!


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 07:30:58 PM
A bot net makes more since than a private pool.

The script kiddie bot netters are pretty likely to ddos, because it takes little to no hacking skills (just like bot netting) and they are already involved with "hacking". Although, I really wouldn't call what they do hacking, because an 8 year old could do it.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on December 02, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

Epic Fail. Decentralization is the solution.

Yeah, adding more pools makes it more decentralized genius.

LOL where do these idiots come from? The SolidcoinTalk forums? MicroRash Forums?  ;D ;D ;D

*facepalm*

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
A bot net makes more since than a private pool.

The script kiddie bot netters are pretty likely to ddos, because it takes little to no hacking skills (just like bot netting.)
The "private pool" was in quotations meaning a group of hackers (or script kiddies, it's all the same from a legal standpoint) who all have a vested interest shutting down the pools temporarily i.e. because they have a large portion of the hashing power and by taking the large pools offline it's enough to be the majority hashing power.

I find it highly unlikely that there is one guy somewhere who has a monster LTC mining rig as well as a monstrous botnet that is so huge he is simultaneously successfully DDoS'ing the 4 largest LTC pools by himself. I am fairly certain there is at least a handful of individuals in on this, i.e. a "private pool" - please note the quotations indicating that the phrase's intent is not to be taken literally but in a subtext.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 07:40:54 PM
A bot net makes more since than a private pool.

The script kiddie bot netters are pretty likely to ddos, because it takes little to no hacking skills (just like bot netting.)
The "private pool" was in quotations meaning a group of hackers (or script kiddies, it's all the same from a legal standpoint) who all have a vested interest shutting down the pools temporarily i.e. because they have a large portion of the hashing power and by taking the large pools offline it's enough to be the majority hashing power.

I find it highly unlikely that there is one guy somewhere who has a monster LTC mining rig as well as a monstrous botnet that is so huge he is simultaneously successfully DDoS'ing the 4 largest LTC pools by himself. I am fairly certain there is at least a handful of individuals in on this, i.e. a "private pool" - please note the quotations indicating that the phrase's intent is not to be taken literally but in a subtext.

Ah, OK, I get you. Yes, this is definitely the work of a group of people.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on December 02, 2012, 07:42:03 PM
I find it highly unlikely that there is one guy somewhere who has a monster LTC mining rig as well as a monstrous botnet that is so huge he is simultaneously successfully DDoS'ing the 4 largest LTC pools by himself.

5 BTC is enough to DDoS one website for 24 hours. 20 BTC == the 4 largest LTC pools down.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: smoothie on December 02, 2012, 07:43:23 PM
This is good practice for contingency plans when this happens on a larger scale in the future.

Perhaps make some non-public mining pools. Notify people who are in the community privately and hash away.

Epic Fail. Decentralization is the solution.

Yeah, adding more pools makes it more decentralized genius.

LOL where do these idiots come from? The SolidcoinTalk forums? MicroRash Forums?  ;D ;D ;D

*facepalm*

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool

Interesting how you did not address your mistake in saying that more pools makes it LESS decentralized.

Yes P2Pool helps. But it isn't the only solution.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: bitcool on December 02, 2012, 07:48:31 PM
I find it highly unlikely that there is one guy somewhere who has a monster LTC mining rig as well as a monstrous botnet that is so huge he is simultaneously successfully DDoS'ing the 4 largest LTC pools by himself.

5 BTC is enough to DDoS one website for 24 hours. 20 BTC == the 4 largest LTC pools down.

Are weekends best time for botnet to work most efficiently?

If the hackers have access to some institution/research facilities, I am sure weekend attacks work best. 


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 07:50:49 PM
Is there somewhere that shows the network hash rate other than the few graphs at the pools that are inaccessible right now?

It would be interesting to see what it looks like.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on December 02, 2012, 07:54:37 PM
I find it highly unlikely that there is one guy somewhere who has a monster LTC mining rig as well as a monstrous botnet that is so huge he is simultaneously successfully DDoS'ing the 4 largest LTC pools by himself.

5 BTC is enough to DDoS one website for 24 hours. 20 BTC == the 4 largest LTC pools down.

Are weekends best time for botnet to work most efficiently?

If the hackers have access to some institution/research facilities, I am sure weekend attacks work best. 


No idea. 50 USD was a price for DDoS I've seen on one of hacker's sites. There was "Money back if the target survives DDoS" also.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 07:58:24 PM
No idea. 50 USD was a price for DDoS I've seen on one of hacker's sites. There was "Money back if the target survives DDoS" also.

Yes, it is cheap for a Ddos because it is quite easy to do, and the punishment is not very severe if caught (chances of getting caught are slim to none as well.)


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 08:00:18 PM
Is there somewhere that shows the network hash rate other than the few graphs at the pools that are inaccessible right now?

It would be interesting to see what it looks like.
http://allchains.info/


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: K1773R on December 02, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
coinotron, litecoinpool, and notroll are all down.

burnside's pool is still up, though.
thats why u should use p2pool lmao


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 08:04:04 PM
coinotron, litecoinpool, and notroll are all down.

burnside's pool is still up, though.
thats why u should use p2pool lmao
p2pool's current hashrate is "0" according to http://allchains.info/


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 02, 2012, 08:05:46 PM
Is there somewhere that shows the network hash rate other than the few graphs at the pools that are inaccessible right now?

It would be interesting to see what it looks like.
http://allchains.info/


That doesn't seem very accurate.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 08:10:52 PM
Is there somewhere that shows the network hash rate other than the few graphs at the pools that are inaccessible right now?

It would be interesting to see what it looks like.
http://allchains.info/


That doesn't seem very accurate.
I'm fairly sure that it is... And it's updated every 2 minutes as well...


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: K1773R on December 02, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
I find it highly unlikely that there is one guy somewhere who has a monster LTC mining rig as well as a monstrous botnet that is so huge he is simultaneously successfully DDoS'ing the 4 largest LTC pools by himself.

5 BTC is enough to DDoS one website for 24 hours. 20 BTC == the 4 largest LTC pools down.

Are weekends best time for botnet to work most efficiently?

If the hackers have access to some institution/research facilities, I am sure weekend attacks work best. 

Most ppl dont know how to properly configure a server therefore its easy to DDoS (or even DoS) it.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: koin on December 02, 2012, 08:26:44 PM
it is cheap for a Ddos because it is quite easy to do, and the punishment is not very severe if caught

and the end result of a ddos is that it brings difficulty down, so it can be profitable too if you plan to come on strong after difficulty adjusts down in a few days.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: susanne on December 02, 2012, 08:49:09 PM
Did someone set up a site called LitecoinDice?

That was the first thought that came in my mind when I read the title of this topic.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: wndrbr3d on December 02, 2012, 08:58:42 PM
I have a private pool that I'd be willing to manually add folks to if you want to continue mining. Payouts would be manual, but I'd do PPS at 0% until the more popular pools come back up.

PM me if you're interested. It'd kinda be a trust thing since I don't have a web interface for the pool (it has just been a couple co-workers and I mining on it). That being said, I could probably put SOMETHING online in the next couple days just so people can view workers/shares.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Balthazar on December 02, 2012, 09:41:09 PM
We are under ddos too... :( Will be online tomorrow, after setting up antiddos proxy shield.

Most ppl dont know how to properly configure a server therefore its easy to DDoS (or even DoS) it.
... and how will you configure your server to prevent 18 Gbit/s UDP DDoS, if you have 1 Gbit/s link? You'll power it off? :D


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: K1773R on December 02, 2012, 09:56:15 PM
We are under ddos too... :( Will be online tomorrow, after setting up antiddos proxy shield.

Most ppl dont know how to properly configure a server therefore its easy to DDoS (or even DoS) it.
... and how will you configure your server to prevent 18 Gbit/s UDP DDoS, if you have 1 Gbit/s link? You'll power it off? :D
1. rule: never have only 1 server
2. rule: contact ISP (takes only some minutes? but well, dunno how it is in other countrys)
3. rule: since u have now 2 (atleast) or more, setup loadbalancing or create a cluster...
not going to continue more.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on December 02, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
... and how will you configure your server to prevent 18 Gbit/s UDP DDoS, if you have 1 Gbit/s link? You'll power it off? :D

18 Gbit/s versus 1 Gbit/s is more flooding than ddosing.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on December 02, 2012, 10:02:56 PM
1. rule: never have only 1 server - DDoSers don't care about number of servers. 1000x-powerful server == 1000 ordinary servers for them.
2. rule: contact ISP (takes only some minutes? but well, dunno how it is in other countrys) - ISP can do nothing, the most common reply is "it's not our problem".
3. rule: since u have now 2 (atleast) or more, setup loadbalancing or create a cluster... - DDoS costs 100x-10000x times cheaper than servers/cluster that is able to survive DDoS attack.
not going to continue more.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Balthazar on December 02, 2012, 10:12:38 PM
... and how will you configure your server to prevent 18 Gbit/s UDP DDoS, if you have 1 Gbit/s link? You'll power it off? :D

18 Gbit/s versus 1 Gbit/s is more flooding than ddosing.
Yes, it's flooding. UDP flood attack, the cheapest DDoS type.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Balthazar on December 02, 2012, 10:15:05 PM
We are under ddos too... :( Will be online tomorrow, after setting up antiddos proxy shield.

Most ppl dont know how to properly configure a server therefore its easy to DDoS (or even DoS) it.
... and how will you configure your server to prevent 18 Gbit/s UDP DDoS, if you have 1 Gbit/s link? You'll power it off? :D
1. rule: never have only 1 server
2. rule: contact ISP (takes only some minutes? but well, dunno how it is in other countrys)
3. rule: since u have now 2 (atleast) or more, setup loadbalancing or create a cluster...
not going to continue more.
Rule 4. Hoster doen't cares about you. Under massive flood they will simply blackhole your IP. So, your cluster of 1000...000 servers went offline.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: live627 on December 02, 2012, 10:29:03 PM
Someone's upset over the high difficulty and want to take the big pools down in order to reap moar profits. That is my guess. And when it drops back sub-thirty, they'll end attacking.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: WebMaka on December 02, 2012, 10:39:08 PM
coinotron, litecoinpool, and notroll are all down.

burnside's pool is still up, though.
thats why u should use p2pool lmao
p2pool's current hashrate is "0" according to http://allchains.info/

I'm mining LTC on P2Pool and the pool itself is reporting "Pool rate: 25.8MH/s (13% stale) Share difficulty: 0.0482" while AllChains says "0.00000" for the hashrate.

P2Pool/LTC is definitely up, and both Xurious and Pool-X are down, as of when this post hit.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 02, 2012, 10:41:53 PM
Hmmmm, I see... My apologies...


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: K1773R on December 02, 2012, 10:46:12 PM
coinotron, litecoinpool, and notroll are all down.

burnside's pool is still up, though.
thats why u should use p2pool lmao
p2pool's current hashrate is "0" according to http://allchains.info/

I'm mining LTC on P2Pool and the pool itself is reporting "Pool rate: 25.8MH/s (13% stale) Share difficulty: 0.0482" while AllChains says "0.00000" for the hashrate.

P2Pool/LTC is definitely up, and both Xurious and Pool-X are down, as of when this post hit.

p2pool CANT (unless u DDoS ALL nodes) be down so u should even have to argue about it :P


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: bitcool on December 02, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Someone's upset over the high difficulty and want to take the big pools down in order to reap moar profits. That is my guess. And when it drops back sub-thirty, they'll end attacking.
If difficulty stays at 44, it will take same amount of time for "someone" to discover a block, no matter big pools down or not....

If this works for them, what makes you think they will stop attack after it drop back sub-30?

My prediction is the attack will stop once most people come to work on Monday.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: WebMaka on December 02, 2012, 11:33:14 PM
coinotron, litecoinpool, and notroll are all down.

burnside's pool is still up, though.
thats why u should use p2pool lmao
p2pool's current hashrate is "0" according to http://allchains.info/

I'm mining LTC on P2Pool and the pool itself is reporting "Pool rate: 25.8MH/s (13% stale) Share difficulty: 0.0482" while AllChains says "0.00000" for the hashrate.

P2Pool/LTC is definitely up, and both Xurious and Pool-X are down, as of when this post hit.

p2pool CANT (unless u DDoS ALL nodes) be down so u should even have to argue about it :P

Wasn't arguing about it, just letting everyone know that AllChains is reporting incorrectly in that case. If anyone could take P2Pool down they could just as easily fork a blockchain so it's a moot point anyway. :D


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: K1773R on December 02, 2012, 11:50:44 PM
coinotron, litecoinpool, and notroll are all down.

burnside's pool is still up, though.
thats why u should use p2pool lmao
p2pool's current hashrate is "0" according to http://allchains.info/

I'm mining LTC on P2Pool and the pool itself is reporting "Pool rate: 25.8MH/s (13% stale) Share difficulty: 0.0482" while AllChains says "0.00000" for the hashrate.

P2Pool/LTC is definitely up, and both Xurious and Pool-X are down, as of when this post hit.

p2pool CANT (unless u DDoS ALL nodes) be down so u should even have to argue about it :P

Wasn't arguing about it, just letting everyone know that AllChains is reporting incorrectly in that case. If anyone could take P2Pool down they could just as easily fork a blockchain so it's a moot point anyway. :D

wasnt talking about u, was a reference to c4n10


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 03, 2012, 05:59:52 AM
There seems to be no end in sight as of right now, the main pools are still being attacked. These guys are persistent.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: legitnick on December 03, 2012, 08:35:55 AM
Someone is pissed  ;D


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: FuzzyBear on December 03, 2012, 09:14:26 AM
Pissed.... or maybe testing the network for security.... If I was looking to setup say a LTC to £ or $ exchange like MtGox but for LTC then I would REALLY want to be sure that the network is secure and a 51% attack is not possible, and a brutal DDos would show the strength of the pools and what proportion of people are solo mining... or in the big pools etc....

However yes someone could be pissed they missed mining more LTC when the difficulty was lower and BTC block reward had not halved, and this if you individually have enough hashing power will enable them to get some coins quicker.... I wonder what happening to the TRC network with Coinotron down... very fragile network as it is.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: crazy_rabbit on December 03, 2012, 11:00:47 AM
Pissed.... or maybe testing the network for security.... If I was looking to setup say a LTC to £ or $ exchange like MtGox but for LTC then I would REALLY want to be sure that the network is secure and a 51% attack is not possible, and a brutal DDos would show the strength of the pools and what proportion of people are solo mining... or in the big pools etc....

However yes someone could be pissed they missed mining more LTC when the difficulty was lower and BTC block reward had not halved, and this if you individually have enough hashing power will enable them to get some coins quicker.... I wonder what happening to the TRC network with Coinotron down... very fragile network as it is.

Actually TRC is only down a little bit. The difficulty hovers around 800, so about half what it was with coinotron. Also BitcoinReactor is still up. So there is another pool for the not-so-solomining-inclined.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: cabin on December 03, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
Yeah, the network is still at 921 MH/s.

There's too much solo miners in LTC, pools are in minority.

I'd be willing to bet the person with a large chunk of that 921Mh is the one doing the Ddos'ing, otherwise what's the point?

I'd guess it's a bot net owner or a group of hackers that run a bot net would make more since. They kill all the big pools, and all the sudden they solve many more blocks.

For a 51% attack they would be mining in secret before and during the attack so you would never know about them and the difficulty would stay low. But that might not be the goal here.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: michaelmclees on December 03, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
The only plausible goal I would say is to disrupt the network to such a degree that people want to cash out, so the attackers can gobble up some cheap coins.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: creativex on December 03, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
Well that's certainly working.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: coinotron on December 03, 2012, 06:19:41 PM
DDoS attack seems to stop. At least at Coinotron. I wonder for how long?
Anyway Coinotron is up and running.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: rchapoteau on December 03, 2012, 08:11:06 PM
Would be funny if they find its not actually a ddos and just a large amount of people jumping the bitcoin ship after the halving. 

Dreamers can dream.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: wndrbr3d on December 03, 2012, 08:26:32 PM
The issue here is we need to promote a culture of many smaller pools, especially for alt chains. The more targets the less DDoS attacks will impact the mining community.

For this though, we need more easily available software (I posted about this in the alt forum) for people to run their own pools. If we can do this, we essentially make our network more resilient to attack.  :)


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 03, 2012, 10:17:29 PM
My rigs now have a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool that has a back up pool. I need to setup solo mine as the last resort! ;D

This means war!
http://global3.memecdn.com/this-means-war_o_256093.jpg


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Jack1Rip1BurnIt on December 04, 2012, 12:51:01 AM
Ozcoin is rockin' again.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: meebs on December 04, 2012, 02:12:20 AM
litecoinpool.org... is that thing still being ddossed or did they just scuttle away and close up shop or something?

notroll and coinotron have been up for like 10 hours and still no sign from litecoinpool....

just curious.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: burnside on December 04, 2012, 02:19:01 AM
litecoinpool.org... is that thing still being ddossed or did they just scuttle away and close up shop or something?

notroll and coinotron have been up for like 10 hours and still no sign from litecoinpool....

just curious.

litecoinpool.org usually gets hit the hardest, and my pool is still under attack, they probably are as well.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: meebs on December 04, 2012, 02:21:00 AM
litecoinpool.org... is that thing still being ddossed or did they just scuttle away and close up shop or something?

notroll and coinotron have been up for like 10 hours and still no sign from litecoinpool....

just curious.

litecoinpool.org usually gets hit the hardest, and my pool is still under attack, they probably are as well.

Cheers.


ahh ok. Didnt know that. I guess a couple of the pools coming up was only the worst of it verses it being totally over.

Thanks for the clarification!


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: meebs on December 04, 2012, 02:26:14 AM
I guess at least on the upside.. difficulty will be back in the 20's for a couple days after next difficulty change.. (whenever the heck that is..)

That said.. time to cash out on some coinlab loyalty points for now!

(and man do I wish ppc had a gui like the other coins or else i'd start mining that to)


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: c4n10 on December 04, 2012, 02:31:00 AM
I guess at least on the upside.. difficulty will be back in the 20's for a couple days after next difficulty change.. (whenever the heck that is..)

That said.. time to cash out on some coinlab loyalty points for now!

(and man do I wish ppc had a gui like the other coins or else i'd start mining that to)

ppcoin gui: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101820.msg1176807#msg1176807 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101820.msg1176807#msg1176807)

direct d/l link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/75013537/PPCoin.7z (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/75013537/PPCoin.7z)


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: FuzzyBear on December 04, 2012, 07:26:58 AM
So most pools seem to be back online now, other than loosing hashing time and possibly loosing a few miners is there any damage to the pool when attacked like this?


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: burnside on December 04, 2012, 07:35:04 AM
So most pools seem to be back online now, other than loosing hashing time and possibly loosing a few miners is there any damage to the pool when attacked like this?

If their provider charges for bandwidth, they get raped when the bill comes.



Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: coinotron on December 04, 2012, 09:15:07 AM
So most pools seem to be back online now, other than loosing hashing time and possibly loosing a few miners is there any damage to the pool when attacked like this?

90 invalid blocks in TRC pool and 6 invalid ones in LTC pool.
During attack pool managed to solved some blocks but almost all were invalids.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: yo-blin on December 04, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
For save Litecoins we must be mining in solo!  :'(


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: FuzzyBear on December 04, 2012, 01:50:10 PM
So most pools seem to be back online now, other than loosing hashing time and possibly loosing a few miners is there any damage to the pool when attacked like this?

90 invalid blocks in TRC pool and 6 invalid ones in LTC pool.
During attack pool managed to solved some blocks but almost all were invalids.

So is this then hashes that were submitted by users? as i was unable to connect during the attack..... i just don't see how blocks could have been solved with no user connection? I take it the DoS attack was causing the daemons to be unable to get updates to the latest block and hence were solving blocks that were not the latest ones and hence the invalids??

Also just out of interest, did u have to do anything to bring the site backonline... or did the attack just stop?

I'm very interested in setting up a pool like coinotrons (handle many alt coin chains) but not done this before and might need a few pointers if anyone wants to PM me some details but after these attacks and reading community responses on here more pools would be welcomed right? :)



Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: coinotron on December 04, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
So is this then hashes that were submitted by users? as i was unable to connect during the attack..... i just don't see how blocks could have been solved with no user connection? I take it the DoS attack was causing the daemons to be unable to get updates to the latest block and hence were solving blocks that were not the latest ones and hence the invalids??

From time to time miners were able to connect , get work and submit results. If you were lucky you could even connect to website and view pool hashrates (I don't remember exact values, I observed like 15 MH in LTC pool). Probably Coinotron was simply solving blocks without information that they are old ones :)

Also just out of interest, did u have to do anything to bring the site backonline... or did the attack just stop?

They just stopped attacking.

I'm very interested in setting up a pool like coinotrons (handle many alt coin chains) but not done this before and might need a few pointers if anyone wants to PM me some details but after these attacks and reading community responses on here more pools would be welcomed right?

Definitely there is a need of having more pools. Especially in case of PPC and TRC.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: ajareselde on December 04, 2012, 05:39:16 PM
it seams that deepbit is also down due to ddos, it has been like a day or so.

damn ddosers :D

cheers


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: CoinHoarder on December 04, 2012, 07:48:24 PM
I'd like to speculate on the reason for the attacks. There has to be a reason..

a. Somebody that doesn't like Litecoin
       1. Not much we can do about that, there will always be these types of people.

b. Someone that can profit from the attacks
      1. A large solo farm mining LTC
      2. A botnet mining LTC
      4. A private pool mining LTC
      3. ANYONE really that mines LTC, because the difficulty will be lower.
      4. A large trader trying to induce a sell off

I'm sure I'm missing some examples there, anyone else have some ideas of who the culprit could be??

It could of been anyone really... it could of been me, but I have an Alibi!  ;)  ;D
      


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: nixu on December 04, 2012, 08:34:24 PM
Any news about xurious?


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: 420 on December 05, 2012, 01:44:00 AM
it seams that deepbit is also down due to ddos, it has been like a day or so.

damn ddosers :D

cheers

wow deepbit hashrate took a big hit


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: Dagger75 on December 05, 2012, 02:41:22 AM
Is Ozcoin down again?  What a Pita!


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: 420 on December 05, 2012, 09:45:46 PM
Are the top hashrate pools still down? network hashrate still under a Gigahash...


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: bitcool on December 08, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
Anybody think the DDoS will come back when the difficulty rises again?

If a major LTC botnet miner did this, he's got what he wanted: scaring away newcomer miners and lowering the difficulty.  It worked but it's despicable.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: raad287 on December 08, 2012, 01:37:11 PM
this will just encourage more people to start pools.


Title: Re: Massive LTC DDoS attack on all major pools
Post by: 420 on December 08, 2012, 06:04:48 PM
this will just encourage more people to start pools.

that's not the onlyl thing it will do