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US Town Rejects Solar Panels Because They May “Drain The Sun” Or Prevent Plants From Growing (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/188078-2015-12-15-us-town-rejects-solar-panels-because-they-may-drain-the.htm)


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I think the crazy news (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=374873.msg13262017#msg13262017) is getting to me... all I can do is sigh.

^ has a lot to do with how the story is told though. Yes there are a lot of stupid people around. Woodland North Carolina isn't an exception. But the news showed only the ridiculous reasons some people presented. But others had economic reasons. Or were worried property values could be affected if they installed another solar farm. They have three already.

I am under the impression that solar farms only make places MORE user-desirable. People are jumping on the green train at a high rate.

Gosh... and this happens in a country that is supposedly the most advanced country in the world!? I guess the US needs to revise their education methods!

Not criticizing solar farms here. Only saying that the way the news was covered wasn't good. Everyone focused on the reasons some ignorant people put forward. But those weren't the only reasons. And maybe not the reasons the decision was taken in the end. Don't know the situation of the town to know if more solar panels would help. So the economic reasons may make sense.

Are people really that dumb, or is that just the way the news has been reported?
I knew every village has a village idiot, but this town seems to be full of them.  :)

Troll post WTF?

This is a troll post? LOL! You and your flat earth baloney. Entertaining, though.

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You claim it's BS but can't provide any proof all that it's a globe while I've got literally hundreds different proofs its flat. You know actual facts not just paintings and CGI images from a bunch of former Nazis.

https://i.imgur.com/Oyh10L9.jpg

94.5 million miles away? I call bullshit.

If you would open up the other half of your mind, you would immediately recognize your proofs are only half proofs. You would then see how they fail. Obviously, your choice.

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Ok smart ass, tell me how how does the "Airy's Failure" one of the hundreds of proofs fail?

Wow we live in such a world of idiots who make the stupidest claims you could think of.

Makes you wonder if they really believe this stuff or they actually have another financial incentive to spout that nonsense.

You flat-earth jokers run around with that density thing that suggests that there is no gravity. Here is my response to it, below. It's the same with the rest of the stuff you say. You have yourselves a good religion going there.


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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

Energy is a zero-sum game. Energy is neither created nor destroyed. So technically, they *are* draining it from the sun. Though I still don't agree that it's something to worry about.

Next thing we know:

"US president Donald Trump rejects newborn babies because they may "Drain the Air"..."

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What does sex have to do with it?    :D

Yes, this is all true but also it is a little known fact that daylight saving time is the primary cause of global warming, it's that extra hour of sun beating down on the earth every day.

Methane gas (from cows) is a huge one as well. EAT MOAR COWS! SAVE THE WORLD!

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

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And.. now I have to Google this to learn what you guys are talking about, XD.

There isn't going to be a lot of information about the ether. Modern science tries to ignore it. Ether, also spelled aether, penetrates and fills the space between the electrons and the nuclei of atoms. We know little about it formally. However, as long as the electrons and nuclei of atoms have space between them, where the electrons are not riding directly on the nuclei of their atoms, there is ether in between them.

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EDIT: And, of course, in any "empty" space between the atoms.

This is Airy's Failure experiment in a nutshell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87M2i61N1cU

Check your facts, the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water is considerable.

Speed of light in air: 299,700 km/s
Speed of light in water: 225,070 km/s

The speed of light in various mediums doesn't have anything to do with it. The thing that controls is the differences in the ether in different mediums. In other words, the ether acts differently in such a way that it "tricks" one into thinking that there is a difference in the way that light acts as it passes through different mediums of different densities.

If you are going to consider the ether, you have to consider it all the way. You can't simply say that there is ether and that it is the density of water vs. the density of air that makes the difference, when all along it is the activity of the ether that is giving a false reading.

We simply don't know enough about the ether and how it acts and reacts. Because of what it might be, the ether that is located at the surface of the earth might actually cause a real reaction on the ether multitudes of light years away when it is disturbed here.

Airy's Failure was not a failure. It simply proved something completely different than Airy or anybody else generally considers... elasticity and reactivity of the ether.

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Nothing to do with it? The whole fucking experiment is based on the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water.

The Earth is not a spinning globe and the Airy's Failure proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.

The whole idea of the speed of light is that the speed is relatively constant. The constant part exists because Einstein's theories suggest that space is "empty." This means that you can't use the idea of a constant speed of light when you suggest that there is ether filling space. You have to consider the activity of the ether, something we know very little about.

In other words, if you are going to throw out the system of physics that is the standard of today, you can't simply pick and choose which parts of it you are going to accept, and which parts of it you are going to reject. The thing you need to do is develop ether physics as a whole unit of physics before you can determine what you are seeing with Airy's experiments.

One of the things that you might have done with all the flat earth stuff is, you might have shown where there are big holes and gaps in standard physics. But until you develop your physics to the point that it is a viable unit, your ideas fail faster than the ideas of standard physics.

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Bad if you want to claim the speed of light is the same in all mediums then you need to go join your buddies who say solar panels will drain the sun and kill all the plants.

There's no new physics here it's an established irrefutable fact that the speed of light depends on the medium it's traveling through.

The stars are moving and the earth is motionless, case closed.

Case not closed.

Speed of light is irrelevant.

Action of light traveling through a particular medium as opposed to some other medium is irrelevant.

The thing that rules is the action of light through the ether... or through space if you want to believe in space rather than the ether.

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Physics is flawed. It is flawed because basic math is flawed. For example, 1 + 1 never equals 2. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. They are always at least a little different. Because of this, 1 + 1 will always equal 1 + 1... never 2.

When you consider this, the deeper you get into any form of physics, the greater will become the flaw. This is part of the reason why standard physics has more and greater holes in it as you apply greater math to describing that physics. Certainly the physics itself doesn't have any holes. It is the description of physics that produces understandings that are flaw, because the description is based on the flawed language of mathematics as it exists.

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When I say that "you can't," I don't mean that you are unable to make the attempt. But the thing that you are attempting to do is to take some pieces of a flawed description of physics, and apply them to a different description of physics to make a more accurate description of physics. If you don't apply quantum math to what you are doing, the odds are that your description will be more flawed than the one you are attempting to replace.

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Parallel universe theory suggests that there are as many as an infinite number of universes occupying the same space and time that ours occupies. Parallel universe theory never really got off the ground, because it requires the ether to make it work. The ether is the substance that the parallel universes are "made" out of.

We have mathematically (with our flawed math) described completely 6 or 8 dimensions. We have a good handle on another 6 or 8. Then there are 15 or so that we have some math for, but these are not seen at all clearly. Yet it is the dimensions that express the way the parallel universes exist in different "phases" that keep them separate while at the same time allowing them some interaction.

Let's say that some star out there somewhere, shoots out a photon of light. This photon makes it to earth and is observed. Yet the photon itself is a thing that has changed untold times over simply to "travel" the distances from the star to the earth. It is destroyed and recreated by interactions of the various universes according to dimensional laws (ether laws) that cannot be comprehended by space physics.

Flat earth is attempting to apply space physics to ether physics in some areas. It simply will not work. Flat earth ideas are just as flawed as current standard ideas.

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One + 1 does not = 2. Again, the reason is that there are no 2 1s that are the same. The closest that we can come to making 1 + 1 = 2 is found in quantum math, because it is the closest that we can come to finding two 1s that are the same. Where are these two extremely similar 1s? They are 1 and -1. The only difference between 1 and -1 is the "charge." Yet, with our math, 1 + -1 = 0.

The ancient peoples from the past, past that we formally calculate as, say, 14,000 years ago, recognized this. It is the reason their science was different than ours. It is the reason that their science was based on something more accurate. It is the reason that they were destroyed in a cataclysm that nearly destroyed the earth, because even THEIR math/science was flawed. We are heading the same direction as they, partially because our science, flat earth or round earth, is even more flawed than theirs.

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Flat earth and round earth are fun to play with. Play. But get down to life, as well.

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For as long as I remember solar power has been about to take off, but its share in the U.S. electricity generation is still interestingly about zero.

In 2014, the United States generated about 4,093 billion kilowatthours of electricity.1  About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2014:

Coal = 39%
Natural gas = 27%
Nuclear = 19%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.7%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.4%
Wind = 4.4%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases < 1%

Energy Information Administration.

When solar hits, it will be too late to get in on the ground floor.

25 Top Companies Investing in Solar - http://ecowatch.com/2014/10/15/companies-invest-solar-seia/ (http://ecowatch.com/2014/10/15/companies-invest-solar-seia/)


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Don't think these companies aren't looking at solar as a sales item when the time is right.

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Yeah well, that´s really minuscule generation there in the table. Will require much more adoption in the larger picture to get solar off the ground. Some European countries are pretty well off the ground. But overall
 it´s still microscopic.

http://www.postcarbon.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/renewable-electricity-mix-2014.jpg

The difference in the speed of light in air vs. water is the entire basis of Airy's experiment. It was intended as an experiment to test the æther but in this case we're appropriating it to determine weather it's the stars or the earth that's in motion and the results are irrefutable; the stars are in motion and and the earth is stationary.

https://i.imgur.com/cZsrHs3.png

The symbol "1" points to the number 1 i.e. the symbol "1" is not the number. Numbers are perfect, they can never be created, destroyed or modified in any way and they exist outside of space and time. 1 + 1 will = 2 every time, math is the only science where you can be 100% sure of the results.

The point isn't the amount of usage. The point is the companies that are doing it.

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Sure, it´s pretty meaningless in itself because it simply isn´t competitive in the market which is why it has about zero market share. If that´s what you´re saying I agree.

All right. Either you do not understand, or you simply do not want to acknowledge.

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Are you trying to say that these companies succeed because they are not doing something competitive? Why would you think they are going to all the trouble of installing solar if it didn't work? It works. They are proving it. And many of them are looking to the future when solar will be even more competitive.

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I acknowledge that we live in an imperfect world it's you that's in denial. You're materialist views are a fallacy, Plato despite being a flat-headed goldbricking scumbag is correct in regards to the subjective nature of the universe. You obviously didn't pay attention during theology class.

This being the case it looks like you need some spoon-feeding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Forms

https://i.imgur.com/J0bdWeD.jpg

A simple, basic word for theory is fiction.   :)

Speed of light is a constant here on earth according to observations here on earth.

Speed of light in space as we understand it is based on the operation of the universe as standard physics sees the universe.

Speed of light in space when based on flat earth physics is different than what it is based on standard physics, just as flat earth is different from round earth.

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Since it´s so uncompetitive (as evidenced by about zero% market share) I guess subsidies from Taxpayers had something to do with those companies installing it.

But now that it there, as the price of electricity goes up, they will be paying the same amount... approximately zero.

When people start to understand this, the market will be there. It takes visionaries to see what is coming.

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Why would the price of electricity go up? Fossil fuels are dirt cheap, nuclear and hydro plants all over are pretty much written off it´s totally a buyer´s market.

Maybe the price won't go up. But that isn't the rule of thumb for much of anything. Solar can bring the price down.

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https://i.imgur.com/kfUbfQj.jpg

The blue light you see in that reactor underwater is called "Cherenkov radiation" and it's caused by charged particles breaking the light barrier; an illuminated sonic boom so-to-speak.

Allow me to quote:

Look. It's as simple as this.

At ground level, round earth science looks very similar to flat earth science. But they are not the same. How can you tell? One is about round earth. The other is about flat earth.

Round earth science has flaws in it that need correcting to make it work right.

Flat earth barely has any known science at all.

We all know what round earth science is about, because we have been taught it in schools and by the media for ages. Many of us know that round earth science has flaws that need correcting.

What is flat earth science about? Is there simply a flat earth that extends infinitely in all directions with a sky above it? Where is the science that shows it all as a unit? This science is different than round earth science.

You are not going to get the right results when you apply round earth science to a flat earth universe.

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The globe earth is a fake, a fraud and a farce.

So basically this thread was created to make fun of the absurd idea that solar panels will drain the sun. Clearly those responsible for this towns anti-solar policy don't actually believe this and have financial or political motivation.

The problem here is that the OP is throwing stones while living in glass house as his claimed beliefs regarding the sun are just as absurd and ridiculous. In fact the OP's situation is even worse as he a actually believes the earth is in motion around the sun and isn't just just pushing a political/financial agenda.

You have a belief, a religion of sorts. You don't have a complete physics for flat earth. Nor do you have real, congruent theory. You have points.

Round earth has a whole working science and physics behind it, even though it has some mistakes.




This thread was meant to be an informational thread about what was going on in that town in North Carolina - see the original post.


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I don't care about the retards who come up with these sort of silly excuses, after getting funds from OPEC to derail the renewable energy usage. That said, I have to remind everyone that solar energy is very expensive, at least when compared to the other renewable energy sources such as nuclear power and wind power. Also, the manufacturing of solar panels produce a lot of harmful waste.

It is a silly excuse but I think it masks the real reason - MONEY. Those townfolks and taxpayers just don´t see the monetary sense. It´s uncompetitive and therefore subsidized stuff which means corruption and graft in all likelihood, there are still some honest people out there which resent gravy-train politics.

The cloud will drain or remove the sunlight more than the solar panel. More education is needed in the States.