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Title: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on December 17, 2015, 02:59:28 PM
SO yeah i been thinking i dunno about the Devil's negative rating.
I think he's gotten a bad rap.
Like come on.. how bad can a guy be if he gave us Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll ?
I think it's time to reevaluate the whole matter !

Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ? Honestly ?


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Relex on December 17, 2015, 03:09:34 PM
SO yeah i been thinking i dunno about the Devil's negative rating.
I think he's gotten a bad rap.
Like come on.. how bad can a guy be if he gave us Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll ?
I think it's time to reevaluate the whole matter !

Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ? Honestly ?

Did you know the original bible it says god killed millions of people and Lucifer killed 0.

No wonder they keep changing to make god sound better.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on December 17, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
I got banned from Poloniex chat box for asking if i can preach about Satanism like a year ago.
So don't recruit new members over there LOL

And the bible is a made-up crock of shit.
Written in a way so that it could be interpreted to mean anything you want hear.
A monumental heap of shit gullible morons believe.
The whole story was stolen from Egyptians 300 years before hand anyway.
Rewritten and told again and again to "adjust" the so called facts.

I'd sooner preach Snapple-bottle facts to my congregation and pass around the subway baggy for donations.

Last time i dealt with a bible-thumper they said oh well you have to talk to my friend who knows those things etc.
That personifies them all.. some idiot feeds them bullshit and they suck it up with out question.

Humans have been proven to be untrustworthy liars.
And when we are sincere we are heavily flawed and often wrong.
Magical manjor babies ? What the fuck ever  ::)

Satan is coming and he will rule you !


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: MisO69 on December 17, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
I don't believe in any of that. Satan, God, Allah whatever.. all the same thing. Stories told to children so they behave..


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Foxpup on December 17, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
I got banned from Poloniex chat box for asking if i can preach about Satanism like a year ago.
You'll get banned from the Church of Satan itself for asking that. Satanists don't proselytise.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: KeyserSozeMC on December 17, 2015, 03:47:02 PM
SO yeah i been thinking i dunno about the Devil's negative rating.
I think he's gotten a bad rap.
Like come on.. how bad can a guy be if he gave us Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll ?
I think it's time to reevaluate the whole matter !

Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ? Honestly ?

Did you know the original bible it says god killed millions of people and Lucifer killed 0.

No wonder they keep changing to make god sound better.
God is a cunt. Devil is a little bitch for not killing anyone back then.
The original bible? Which edition? 1821?

I got banned from Poloniex chat box for asking if i can preach about Satanism like a year ago.
You'll get banned from the Church of Satan itself for asking that. Satanists don't proselytise.
Please recruit me?


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on December 17, 2015, 03:55:12 PM
Consider yourself recruited.. now go forth and ALWAYS DO EVIL !
Get it ? Like the Altcoin ..Evil COIN har har har i am FUNNY !
Yes that coin is real ..it's posted in the ANN section.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: KeyserSozeMC on December 17, 2015, 03:57:45 PM
Consider yourself recruited.. now go forth and ALWAYS DO EVIL !
Get it ? Like the Altcoin ..Evil COIN har har har i am FUNNY !
Yes that coin is real ..it's posted int he ANN section.
I wanted to do a new ICO. What do you think, what are the chances people gonna invest again? Was thinking to use this same account, over again.
If they believed I'm an alcoholic, this time they might believe that Satan kidnapped me.

I'd blame Satan in the end, but who cares


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Foxpup on December 17, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
See? Now look what you've done! You're encouraging morons to follow the Left-Hand Path! They'll surely trip over and hurt themselves, which is fine except they'll probably find a way to blame me for it, and nobody wants that.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on December 17, 2015, 04:13:08 PM
See? Now look what you've done! You're encouraging morons to follow the Left-Hand Path! They'll surely trip over and hurt themselves, which is fine except they'll probably find a way to blame me for it, and nobody wants that.

Good Entombed album.. "Full Of Hell" is one of my all time favorite songs by them (Wolverine Blues)

http://i67.tinypic.com/2h2gne0.jpg


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: KeyserSozeMC on December 17, 2015, 04:26:29 PM
Guith, I'm getting scaled. Pleathe stahp.

\m/ Entombed


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2015, 07:26:01 PM
HAIL SATAN!! BLARGHRGRHGRHGR  RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHH 666  Atheistic satanism, the church of Anton Lavey is cool, it's basically a philosophy rather that a belief.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2015, 07:35:15 PM
See? Now look what you've done! You're encouraging morons to follow the Left-Hand Path! They'll surely trip over and hurt themselves, which is fine except they'll probably find a way to blame me for it, and nobody wants that.

Good Entombed album.. "Full Of Hell" is one of my all time favorite songs by them (Wolverine Blues)

http://i67.tinypic.com/2h2gne0.jpg


Entombed is amazing, missed my chance to see them last month in Belgrade :/  Also, King Diamond is the best.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Lethn on December 17, 2015, 08:23:36 PM
I'll be honest, I've always thought that if God actually exists he's a total cunt, at least Satan's honest and yes people are right, in the bible God has killed millions, he's angry, vengeful and a petty son of a bitch, meanwhile all Satan does is rebel against God and he's punished for it.

The whole idea of religion sucks as well as the hypocrisy at least with something like Satanism you can live like a human being while you're alive and what's with all the hatred of sex that most religions have?


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 17, 2015, 08:33:09 PM
"The savage, like ourselves, feels the oppression of his impotence before the powers of Nature; but having in himself nothing that he respects more than Power, he is willing to prostrate himself before his gods, without inquiring whether they are worthy of his worship.”
Bertrand Russell


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on December 17, 2015, 08:42:42 PM
SO yeah i been thinking i dunno about the Devil's negative rating.
I think he's gotten a bad rap.
Like come on.. how bad can a guy be if he gave us Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll ?
I think it's time to reevaluate the whole matter !

Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ? Honestly ?

http://zaslike.com/files/q6mtpw7k9m72h5y575n.jpg
"Jesus, not you again!"


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on December 17, 2015, 09:20:41 PM
I hope he doesn't use a condom (we all know that is a major SIN according to the Vatican)

I LOVE telling Christians there is around 4,200 Religions on Wikipedia and Christianity is NOT ranked as most popular.
I do believe that would be Muslims around the world.. they pull in Millions on annual pilgrimages etc.

But i like asking them so which God is the right one ?
We have over 4,000 different groups contradicting each other all claiming to have the proper made up story ROFL
Which God is the real one ? From which religion ?


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on December 17, 2015, 11:01:14 PM
I hope he doesn't use a condom (we all know that is a major SIN according to the Vatican)

I LOVE telling Christians there is around 4,200 Religions on Wikipedia and Christianity is NOT ranked as most popular.
I do believe that would be Muslims around the world.. they pull in Millions on annual pilgrimages etc.

But i like asking them so which God is the right one ?
We have over 4,000 different groups contradicting each other all claiming to have the proper made up story ROFL
Which God is the real one ? From which religion ?

Thank them Gods for creating ONLY one devil.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: karakhan on December 17, 2015, 11:41:40 PM
greek mitology is best at least all bad things and good things have a reason behind it


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: peonminer on December 17, 2015, 11:59:09 PM
I don't believe in any of that. Satan, God, Allah whatever.. all the same thing. Stories told to children so they behave..

+1 and fucking epic avatar :P


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: bizerinm on February 03, 2016, 01:51:43 PM
Satanism and cults only spoil people and most of people commit suicide, or goes mad..'parties' on graveyard ,drugs,blood,animal killing..not interesting for me


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: salinizm on February 04, 2016, 08:37:29 AM
SO yeah i been thinking i dunno about the Devil's negative rating.
I think he's gotten a bad rap.
Like come on.. how bad can a guy be if he gave us Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll ?
I think it's time to reevaluate the whole matter !

Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ? Honestly ?

absolutely , i give all belief system a fair chance..  if it is logical, i can convert to it.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Hagart on February 04, 2016, 09:49:59 AM
Good or evil is human, is not Satan or God.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on April 02, 2016, 01:16:27 PM
Well you have to admit we are not much good with out a balance of Yin/Yang!
Which just ends up meaning Good/bad etc.
I don't think it's about one or the other but being a balanced person.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Anubiss on April 02, 2016, 05:30:16 PM
It does not matter how You call "Universal energy".
It only matters how You choose to perceive it.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on April 02, 2016, 10:59:54 PM
Some people think the root of all evil is Money.

I think it's the Pink-Taco.. AKA: The Stinky Meat Trench
At his core every man just desires to find a cum dumpster to unload his seed into a Hairy-Ditch !

..it's all about the Beef-Curtains trust me.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: cryptonikus on April 03, 2016, 09:43:31 AM
I gave satanism a fair chance, i read works of prominent satanist, it is quite interesting but not sufficient for society in terms of bettering quality of life. Satanism basically promotes egoism and devotion to the lowest needs and instincts, which is certainly not what needs to be promoted these day. We already live in pretty satanic society, just watch movies and music industry, philosophy of satanism is pretty much, what you will find.

And when it comes to satanism as cult and practising religion, that is just Bullshit as any other form of religiosity.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: StinkyLover on April 03, 2016, 09:53:12 AM

And when it comes to satanism as cult and practising religion, that is just Bullshit as any other form of religiosity.


+1


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 22, 2016, 07:44:04 AM
Read what it is about.. THEN judge it !

Take the test..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1522620.0


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: HCLivess on June 27, 2016, 10:28:23 AM
Lavey or not? Lavey is a joke in my eyes
I am an agnostic, not skeptical atheist


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: sarabanda on June 27, 2016, 09:24:04 PM
I like this band and album ::)


https://i.imgur.com/l2M9Qv6.jpg


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 28, 2016, 08:49:39 AM
http://www.nuclearblast.de/static/articles/102/102197.jpg/1000x1000.jpg

Quote
In 1993 there was a great, powerful ancient force that rose up and devoured the death metal scene whole! This…is Covenant.

Morbid Angel was such a great band. Their first three albums in particular are some of the finest death metal anywhere, and this one in particular is amazingly good. This is one of the classics; an album that succeeds at being both an atmospheric piece and a brutal, intense musical maelstrom. Built on a basic foundation of chugging, pummeling guitars, rough growls and blistering, hellish melodies, Covenant becomes something greater than just another basic death metal album.

http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Morbid_Angel/Covenant/596/


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Dahhi on June 28, 2016, 10:10:21 AM
SO yeah i been thinking i dunno about the Devil's negative rating.
I think he's gotten a bad rap.
Like come on.. how bad can a guy be if he gave us Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll ?
I think it's time to reevaluate the whole matter !

Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ? Honestly ?


Yeah... in addition to all that, Satan likes to keep his followers in line, ALWAYS.

He tries to ensure no one goes away.

His dream is that all his followers will be with him in his steamy home...

Located somewhere at the bottom of the Lake of Fire.



Wanna go there as welll? ??? ???


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: CaptainArmenia on July 26, 2016, 09:52:02 PM
No, but I have given Ubuntu Satanic Edition a fair chance. Impression: overrated.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Crazygreek on July 26, 2016, 11:15:18 PM
I don't believe on stuff like this, people created every religion and making money with it.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Chival on July 28, 2016, 06:43:54 AM
Lavey or not? Lavey is a joke in my eyes
I am an agnostic, not skeptical atheist

Anton LaVey?  He was a pretty entertaining guy.


I am a baconist.
Hail bacon.


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Javi_Anibarro on July 28, 2016, 07:20:42 AM
I don't like to follow people who tell me how to live XD, the best is to develop your own point of view and phylosophy


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on July 28, 2016, 09:17:01 PM
I don't like to follow people who tell me how to live XD, the best is to develop your own point of view and phylosophy

Great now go read the link at Wikipedia about the Church of Satan then..

By the way if you used a Condom before then according to the Vatican / Pope
you are going to burn in hell as a sinner.

Church of Satan ?
They don't care.

I STILL don't think many of you read up on the Satanic Church.
You all seem to be hung up on the reputation / stigma of it all.

You all may be shocked to hear that your personal views on life coincide with the Church of Satan.
What is this topic about after all people ?
Did you give it a fair chance ?
Check out the Wikipedia page on it.. seriously read up on it people it's interesting i think.
Actually give it a fair chance ..instead of bullshitting saying you did (when you didn't)

LET'S MAKE SATANISM GREAT AGAIN !


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Dahhi on July 28, 2016, 10:43:31 PM
You mean like it was in the days of old when parents were secretly roasting their children alive in a huge fire just to gain the favor of Lucifer, their god?


At least the bible does not require that you hold secret meetings like satanists do...


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: UliJonHoth on July 29, 2016, 02:46:31 PM
http://www.nuclearblast.de/static/articles/102/102197.jpg/1000x1000.jpg

Quote
In 1993 there was a great, powerful ancient force that rose up and devoured the death metal scene whole! This…is Covenant.

Morbid Angel was such a great band. Their first three albums in particular are some of the finest death metal anywhere, and this one in particular is amazingly good. This is one of the classics; an album that succeeds at being both an atmospheric piece and a brutal, intense musical maelstrom. Built on a basic foundation of chugging, pummeling guitars, rough growls and blistering, hellish melodies, Covenant becomes something greater than just another basic death metal album.

http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Morbid_Angel/Covenant/596/

Those first three albums are masterpieces... Altars is my favorite but Blessed and Covenant are right behind it. One of the best full sets on YT, the 1989 Rock City show in Nottingham on the Altars' tour - Trey and the band just rip through the first album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83hMPN-1oos


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: protokol on July 29, 2016, 06:49:01 PM
http://www.nuclearblast.de/static/articles/102/102197.jpg/1000x1000.jpg

Quote
In 1993 there was a great, powerful ancient force that rose up and devoured the death metal scene whole! This…is Covenant.

Morbid Angel was such a great band. Their first three albums in particular are some of the finest death metal anywhere, and this one in particular is amazingly good. This is one of the classics; an album that succeeds at being both an atmospheric piece and a brutal, intense musical maelstrom. Built on a basic foundation of chugging, pummeling guitars, rough growls and blistering, hellish melodies, Covenant becomes something greater than just another basic death metal album.

http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Morbid_Angel/Covenant/596/

Those first three albums are masterpieces... Altars is my favorite but Blessed and Covenant are right behind it. One of the best full sets on YT, the 1989 Rock City show in Nottingham on the Altars' tour - Trey and the band just rip through the first album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83hMPN-1oos

Awesome, some fellow Morbid Angel fans.That video is excellent, what I would give to be there...

Covenant is probably my favourite, but the first 3 are all up there (I liked Domination as well, if a little over produced). This band was one of my most listened to as a teenager, along with some grindcore bands (Napalm Death, Brutal Truth), and the early Cradle of Filth stuff.

Your user name is quite Scorpiony  :) Fun fact, the band used to own a seaside mansion a mile from where I live, and Uli's brother Zeno used to work in a local factory that I worked in for a while. Unfortunately he left a few months before I started working there so I never met him :(


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: GamingBro on July 29, 2016, 07:54:34 PM
Why people beleving on stuff like that?  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on July 29, 2016, 08:15:44 PM
Why people beleving on stuff like that?  ;D ;D

Because some people can read..
It's amazing what you find out if you actually get off your ass and learn.

And yeah guys i agree MA is awesome.. well except maybe that last one they made LOL
It was so bad the Bass player & Singer who was on Covenant was asked to leave..
and he went on to start a Country music career in Nashville i heard not long ago (no joke)

I'm an old fan of Carcass too and the Bass player Jeff Walker made a Country album covers release before.
Called "Carcass Cuntry" but that was intended to be just a one off side project 1 time.
Which we know they eventually went on to have a reunion and make some not bad metal..
Unlike D. Vincent who really did leave Metal to be a Country music guy  :o

Anyway.. i am not sure how many times i can actually post here.. READ.
I am still amazed how many people form crazy judgements in their head
with out making any real effort to learn the facts.

Like i mean Wikipedia may not be 100% accurate but you will all get the idea..
And if needed go from there to verify the info if need be.

By the way i am not a member of the Church of Satan.
I simply stumbled onto the Wikipedia page for it and figured i'd share the info.
I found my views etc to be far more in line with their religion than i ever would have guessed.
An interesting read people seriously !


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: UliJonHoth on July 30, 2016, 02:11:41 PM

Awesome, some fellow Morbid Angel fans.That video is excellent, what I would give to be there...

Covenant is probably my favourite, but the first 3 are all up there (I liked Domination as well, if a little over produced). This band was one of my most listened to as a teenager, along with some grindcore bands (Napalm Death, Brutal Truth), and the early Cradle of Filth stuff.

Your user name is quite Scorpiony  :) Fun fact, the band used to own a seaside mansion a mile from where I live, and Uli's brother Zeno used to work in a local factory that I worked in for a while. Unfortunately he left a few months before I started working there so I never met him :(

Hahaha Yeah, Uli is one of my favorite guitarists - that's a trip about the mansion and Uli's brother working in the same factory that you later worked at! Too cool, man!



Because some people can read..
It's amazing what you find out if you actually get off your ass and learn.

And yeah guys i agree MA is awesome.. well except maybe that last one they made LOL
It was so bad the Bass player & Singer who was on Covenant was asked to leave..
and he went on to start a Country music career in Nashville i heard not long ago (no joke)

I'm an old fan of Carcass too and the Bass player Jeff Walker made a Country album covers release before.
Called "Carcass Cuntry" but that was intended to be just a one off side project 1 time.
Which we know they eventually went on to have a reunion and make some not bad metal..
Unlike D. Vincent who really did leave Metal to be a Country music guy  :o

Anyway.. i am not sure how many times i can actually post here.. READ.
I am still amazed how many people form crazy judgements in their head
with out making any real effort to learn the facts.

Like i mean Wikipedia may not be 100% accurate but you will all get the idea..
And if needed go from there to verify the info if need be.

By the way i am not a member of the Church of Satan.
I simply stumbled onto the Wikipedia page for it and figured i'd share the info.
I found my views etc to be far more in line with their religion than i ever would have guessed.
An interesting read people seriously !

Oh yeah, that last MA album was not a favorite of mine in any way - hopefully the band is back on track with the return of Steve Tucker. I have seen a  few minutes from David Vincent's new country venture - although I live in Texas, I can count on one hand the country songs I like - never figured we'd see him going country but if he enjoys it, more power to him, I guess. Here's a few in case anyone wants to check them out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grf25KbNgc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oe7EH11dAs

As far as Satanism, I own a copy of LaVey's Satanic Bible and several other of his works - his essays in Satan Speaks and The Devil's Notebook are quite enjoyable and far from what most would expect the content to be about.



Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Spoetnik on July 30, 2016, 09:23:28 PM
Nader Sadek lost a good man !
Tucker is back with MA i heard before .. i forgot till you mentioned it.
Should be good.

That last Nader Sadek EP was a good teaser.
The band seems to keep getting better i think.. i hope they have more to come.

Black Crown Initiate & Revocation released my last two acquired albums..

More people should listen to DeathMetal and join the Church of Satan of course.
..the two go nicely together like chocolate & peanut butter.

And WTF ?
Axel Rose (Guns & Roses) replaced Brian Johnson in AC/DC (who was fired)
Yeah THAT ! WTF ?

First gig Axel did he sat in a chair on stage because he had just hurt his foot ROFL
Then he claimed copyright infringement all over the web for fat guy pic's of him.
What a clown show LOL

Makes me want to watch Metalocalypse i have ripped on my PC   ;D
Snakes & Barrels time yeah !!
I DO COCAINE !!!


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: Foxpup on July 31, 2016, 04:11:15 AM
I DO COCAINE !!!
I was wondering what you were smoking. The Church of Satan would be interested to know too (http://www.churchofsatan.com/policy-on-drug-abuse.php). :-\


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: tomahawk9 on July 31, 2016, 01:41:14 PM
I never have and never will. That shit is evil and people shouldn't play with that


Title: Re: Have You Given Satanism a Fair Chance ?
Post by: bitmarketads on July 31, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
well yes we gave stan more chances than he deserved the only thign what was wrong was how we used satan.

because the person we are thought that is god is actually the devil.

on the dollar bill it says in god we trust- no we dont we know money is the root of all evil

we fight wars in the name of god, we enslave people in the name of god

we do everything evil in the name of god while the real devil did nothing wrong, he actually tells us stay away from this god

the government created god is worth than the devil

somehow somethign got mixed up here durign all those years

So my conclusion is, love satan because he hates the evilish god

I rather believe in  satan than in our government  created god

Jews created God nd we all know dont trust a fucking jew

the jews even said jesus was white, even though no white person ahs ever set food in this region where this jesus ws supposed to be from