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Economy => Collectibles => Topic started by: Mitchell on December 19, 2015, 01:51:35 PM



Title: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on December 19, 2015, 01:51:35 PM
Hello everyone,

Max released new coins (http://www.maxfield.me/2015/12/15/kialara-signature-series/) so I'm doing a group buy once again!

Pictures of the new coins
http://www.maxfield.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/excavatorelevator_1_wordpress.jpg (http://www.maxfield.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/excavatorelevator_1_wordpress.jpg)    http://www.maxfield.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/current_wordpress.jpg (http://www.maxfield.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/current_wordpress.jpg)


Prices
2015 Kialara - Labyrinth (http://www.maxfield.me/2014/12/30/2015-kialara-labyrinth/): $99 (Ceramic balls and no longer sold on the website).
2015 Silver 1BTC Kialara (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084109.msg11563753#msg11563753): $199
2015 Kialara Signature - Ricky Allman (http://www.maxfield.me/2015/12/15/kialara-signature-series/): $159
2015 Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski (http://www.maxfield.me/2015/12/15/kialara-signature-series/): $159

The Kialara's will be shipped for free to me, if we purchase more than 10 pieces.


Shipping
The Netherlands: €8.15
Rest of Europe: €11.50
Both are Registered mail with Track & Trace included.

The Netherlands: €3.65
Rest of Europe: €11.25
Plain shipping (not Registered and no Track & Trace).

Note: This is the maximum price (if your package is less than 2kg), it's possible that you need to pay less from shipping. However, this only applies if you choose for plain shipping


Extra costs
  • We need to pay VAT to import the Kialara's into The Netherlands, which is the largest extra cost we have (we do not have to pay import costs). It's currently at 21% (but I'm trying to convince the customs right now that they are in fact art pieces (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084109.msg12324422#msg12324422)).
  • The disbursement fee of the used postal service (UPS charges €11.25, PostNL €13, EMS €17,50, etc.).
  • The bubblewrapped envelopes. €4 for 10 pieces.


Terms
  • The group buy won't happen if not at least 5 coins are ordered.
  • The group buy will be closed, for new participants, when we hit 20 coins or when January ends.
  • Once the group buy is closed for new participants the final price will be determined and split between the participants.
  • Any BTC that is left over (because the package wasn't checked, the BTC value went up, etc) will be evenly distributed between the participants.
  • If we are somehow short of BTC, I'll cover it up front. The amount of BTC will be evenly distributed between participants. Your package won't be sent if you don't pay your part of the debt. If you don't pay at all, your Kialara will be auctioned off to cover the cost and any leftovers are kept.
  • Terms can be changed at any moment, so please keep track of them (important announcement will be posted in the thread).


Join the group buy
If you want to join, please tell me your Bitcoin forum name, country and how many you want:

Username : Country : Amount
Raimonn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454323) : Spain : 1x Kialara Labyrinth (Silver bearings), 1x Kialara Labyrinth (Ceramic bearings), 2x Kialara Silver 1BTC, 2x Kialara Signature (one of each)
AT101ET (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=170557) : United Kingdom : 1x Kialara Labyrinth (Silver bearings), 1x Kialara Labyrinth (Ceramic bearings)
Zeroxal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=508748) : Austria : 1x Kialara Labyrinth (Silver bearings)
Lairew (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141193) : Italy : 2x Kialara Signature (Julia Tourianski)

11 coins right now.


Payment address
Payments must be send to "1F8ru3jdGYBEFLMhcUmgcbtwSV25LmYEH9". I will NOT send you a PM asking for payment.

For payment amounts, please see this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1295592.msg13743980#msg13743980).


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on December 19, 2015, 02:56:31 PM
Vaporware : USA : 1 Bar/coin (Ricky Allman)

Thanks ;)

(If this is for EU only, maybe you hold onto my bar for now!!!)
This is EU only yeah, as American's can buy directly from Max himself (without a quantity minimum), but as I have some coins of yours, I would be willing to accept you onto this group buy (even though it would be more expensive for you). Let me know what you want to do.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Raimonn on December 19, 2015, 03:19:08 PM
Username: Raimonn
Country: Spain

2 x 2015 Kialara - Labyrinth: $99 (Ceramic balls and no longer sold on the website).
2 x 2015 Silver 1BTC Kialara: $199
1 x 2015 Kialara Signature - Ricky Allman: $159
1 x 2015 Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski: $159


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on December 19, 2015, 03:49:03 PM
Vaporware and Raimonn. you guys have been added! Welcome to the group buy. ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: wttbs on December 19, 2015, 08:17:23 PM
I assume you mean December instead of June

Quote
The group buy will be closed, for new participants, when we hit 20 coins or when this month (June) is over.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on December 19, 2015, 08:30:13 PM
OP updated. ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: AT101ET on December 19, 2015, 08:52:12 PM
Hey,
Just want to say that Mitchell has run a few of these already and that they've all been run flawlessly! (Noobs shouldn't have any doubts).
I'm in for a Labrynth...

AT101ET
United Kindom
1 x 2015 Labrynth

(Mitchell - seeing as the group buy is now definitely going to happen is there any way I can send payment now? Got a few things planned and can't guarantee I'll have access to my wallet when the group buy closes). Thanks


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on December 19, 2015, 09:27:49 PM
Hey,
Just want to say that Mitchell has run a few of these already and that they've all been run flawlessly! (Noobs shouldn't have any doubts).
I'm in for a Labrynth...

AT101ET
United Kindom
1 x 2015 Labrynth

(Mitchell - seeing as the group buy is now definitely going to happen is there any way I can send payment now? Got a few things planned and can't guarantee I'll have access to my wallet when the group buy closes). Thanks
Thanks for the vouch! I prefer to not accept payments upfront. Can't you lock the BTC away somewhere? ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on December 21, 2015, 10:02:54 PM
Bump.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: AT101ET on December 31, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
Kialara is offering the labrynths at $79 each with the silver balls (as a special deal).
Is there any chance that you could arrange that deal for me?
If so, I'd be interested in 1-2 instead of the ceramic.

Thanks


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Kialara on December 31, 2015, 12:46:07 AM
Kialara is offering the labrynths at $79 each with the silver balls (as a special deal).
Is there any chance that you could arrange that deal for me?
If so, I'd be interested in 1-2 instead of the ceramic.

Thanks


I want to support the mission of @changetip to donate 2,000 warm meals to @phillyhomeless. For each Kialara Labyrinth purchased before midnight tomorrow, (or until 100 are sold) 30 warm meals will be donated to those in need – 15 by myself, and @changetip will be matching this 15.

To add more incentive, I’ve lowered the price to $79 which will also end at midnight tomorrow. A purchase of 10 Kialaras will provide 300 meals!

If paying with bitcoin, please multiply the number of items you would like to purchase x $79 and edit Coinbase total.

You will receive a Kialara Labyrinth with .999 silver balls. If you would prefer ceramic, please email me following your order to request this and I will accommodate.

Due to outstanding orders of my new Signature Series, please allow 5 weeks for delivery of these pieces. I greatly appreciate your patience, and in this case many others will benefit also.

Thanks everyone, and Happy New Year!

https://i.imgur.com/5csP2pu.jpg


I will gladly accept the $79 price for the labyrinths if the buyer commits to purchasing prior to midnight central-standard time. I will front the cost for the donations to @phillyhomeless so please only commit if you are able to fulfill the order on your end. Thank you!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: AT101ET on December 31, 2015, 08:42:28 AM
Kialara is offering the labrynths at $79 each with the silver balls (as a special deal).
Is there any chance that you could arrange that deal for me?
If so, I'd be interested in 1-2 instead of the ceramic.

Thanks


I want to support the mission of @changetip to donate 2,000 warm meals to @phillyhomeless. For each Kialara Labyrinth purchased before midnight tomorrow, (or until 100 are sold) 30 warm meals will be donated to those in need – 15 by myself, and @changetip will be matching this 15.

To add more incentive, I’ve lowered the price to $79 which will also end at midnight tomorrow. A purchase of 10 Kialaras will provide 300 meals!

If paying with bitcoin, please multiply the number of items you would like to purchase x $79 and edit Coinbase total.

You will receive a Kialara Labyrinth with .999 silver balls. If you would prefer ceramic, please email me following your order to request this and I will accommodate.

Due to outstanding orders of my new Signature Series, please allow 5 weeks for delivery of these pieces. I greatly appreciate your patience, and in this case many others will benefit also.

Thanks everyone, and Happy New Year!

https://i.imgur.com/5csP2pu.jpg


I will gladly accept the $79 price for the labyrinths if the buyer commits to purchasing prior to midnight central-standard time. I will front the cost for the donations to @phillyhomeless so please only commit if you are able to fulfill the order on your end. Thank you!

Hey,
Sorry for the delay but I'm in a different time zone.
If the deal still stands, I will comitt to buying two bars.

Thanks


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on December 31, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
Alright, I'll write it down as you committing for two Kialara Labyrinth's.

EDIT: Just one more coin till shipping to me is free. ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Zeroxal on January 10, 2016, 08:10:25 PM
Does this offer still stand? Looks like there are only 9 coins being bought. I'll take the 10th one :)
1x Kialara Labyrinth please


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on January 10, 2016, 08:13:17 PM
January hasn't ended yet and we didn't hit 20 coins yet, so yes, this offer still stands. ;D
Welcome to the group buy! Adding you now. Could you tell me in what country you live so I can add that as well? Makes my life a lot easier when calculating the final purchase price (because of shipping).


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Zeroxal on January 10, 2016, 08:14:32 PM
January hasn't ended yet and we didn't hit 20 coins yet, so yes, this offer still stands. ;D
Welcome to the group buy! Adding you now. Care to tell me in what country you live?
Oh, sorry I forgot it :P
I live in Austria


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on January 10, 2016, 08:15:14 PM
Thank you! You have been added. ;D


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Zeroxal on January 10, 2016, 08:18:56 PM
Thank you! You have been added. ;D
Another question regarding the fees:
So in total I would have to pay 99$ for the coin + 20$ VAT + 11€ for shipping, right? May I pay in advance?(before I use all of my coins into other stuff like gambling, games etc :P)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on January 10, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
Another question regarding the fees:
So in total I would have to pay 99$ for the coin + 20$ VAT + 11€ for shipping, right? May I pay in advance? :)
No sorry, I don't do advance payments. It makes it unnecessarily complicated for me.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: icey on January 10, 2016, 09:23:46 PM
I'd be in for few if we can resolve or get an answer to this VAT issue. I see in the other thread your waiting for a response still, so I'll sit tight until that's resolved. Chances are I may have to sit this one out :(



Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on January 10, 2016, 09:24:33 PM
I'd be in for one if we can resolve or get an answer to this VAT issue. I see in the other thread your waiting for a response still, so I'll sit tight until that's resolved. Chances are I may have to sit this one out :(
Sorry, I can't do anything to speed up the process. Still waiting. :-[


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: icey on January 10, 2016, 09:26:45 PM
I'd be in for one if we can resolve or get an answer to this VAT issue. I see in the other thread your waiting for a response still, so I'll sit tight until that's resolved. Chances are I may have to sit this one out :(
Sorry, I can't do anything to speed up the process. Still waiting. :-[
I know buddy, not your fault. These things take time sadly


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Zeroxal on January 22, 2016, 10:31:28 PM
Another question about the 1BTC silver kialara. Will I be able to fund it after I have received the coin or must I fund it in advance?


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: icey on January 23, 2016, 03:38:06 PM
They can be funded any time after you receive it. Kialara's cannot be pre-funded by the creator.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Zeroxal on January 31, 2016, 12:48:42 AM
It'll be February in in less than 23 hours :)
When will the group buy start? Cant wait to get my hands on one of the kialaras.

When is the deadline to request another coin? I'm considering buying one 1BTC silver kialara too, not sure yet :/
I'll tell you as soon as possible ;)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on January 31, 2016, 10:08:57 AM
The group buy will close for participants after today (in exactly 12 hours and 52 minutes). After that I'll calculate the amount of Bitcoins everyone has to pay and collect that. Once that it is done, I'll contact Max, pay for the Kialara's and get them shipped to me. Once they arrive, I'll reship them to everyone.

So if you want another coin, please decide within these 12 hours and 52 minutes.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on January 31, 2016, 10:47:34 AM
It'll be February in in less than 23 hours :)
When will the group buy start? Cant wait to get my hands on one of the kialaras.

When is the deadline to request another coin? I'm considering buying one 1BTC silver kialara too, not sure yet :/
I'll tell you as soon as possible ;)

Stop considering and order one ;D. It's absolutely worth every penny!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Raimonn on January 31, 2016, 05:52:37 PM
Nice to see that finally today this group buy is closing, i want to have these coins as soon as possible. Will be my first kialaras coins , i need them for my bitcoin physical coins collection.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on January 31, 2016, 06:43:54 PM
Nice to see that finally today this group buy is closing, i want to have these coins as soon as possible. Will be my first kialaras coins , i need them for my bitcoin physical coins collection.
I'll try to do everything as quickly as possible!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Zeroxal on January 31, 2016, 09:30:58 PM
It'll be February in in less than 23 hours :)
When will the group buy start? Cant wait to get my hands on one of the kialaras.

When is the deadline to request another coin? I'm considering buying one 1BTC silver kialara too, not sure yet :/
I'll tell you as soon as possible ;)

Stop considering and order one ;D. It's absolutely worth every penny!
Unfortunately I can't financially get another coin :/
Unless someone would like to give me a small loan (of about 100$....)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Lairew on January 31, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
Hello  ;D
2 x 2015 Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski: $159

a bit late, sorry!


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on January 31, 2016, 10:44:41 PM
Hello  ;D
2 x 2015 Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski: $159

a bit late, sorry!
You can't say that you are late just yet as the group buy closes in 15 minutes. ;D

I've added you to the list.


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 01, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
Hello  ;D
2 x 2015 Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski: $159

a bit late, sorry!
You can't say that you are late just yet as the group buy closes in 15 minutes. ;D

I've added you to the list.
I think you added the wrong username to the list. You added me instead of Lairew ;)


Title: Re: [GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4][NEW COINS!]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 02:38:09 PM
Oh whoops. I think the url is correct though. Will fix in a bit and post the final prices as well.


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 04:16:50 PM
The price is quite a bit more than expected. Just an idea for future group buys would be to have a rough cost of what the price per coin would be before you sign up :)

Nevertheless, I'm still in for it. I'll pay in 3 or 4 hours or so.

Thanks!
I did tell everyone about the extra costs and gave a pseudo code, so you could have calculated it yourself. But yeah, it would have been better if I gave a rough estimate and I'll definitely do that next time. Thank you for sticking with me!
It seems that I haven't kept my promise and I would like to apologize for that. Please know that a coin from this group buy is bit more expensive because of taxes and the 2% buffer that I use. I'm really sorry about that.

I've been trying to convince the authorities that they should see Kialara's as an art piece and charge only 8% instead of 21%, but they still haven't replied to my letter with all the evidence. It might happen that they don't check the package, which would mean that we don't have to pay the 21% tax fees, but I can't promise that. Just know that all the leftovers will be distributed fairly and that I'll do what I can for this group buy.


The group buy is now closed for new participants. The payment address can be found in the OP and I will NOT be sending out PM's with a payment address. I've signed the OP with my donation address as a security precaution. I've made a mistake during the first round of calculations regarding VAT and extra costs (as they weren't distributed correctly). dnaleor (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89388) helped me out with this and the changes are quite substantial (and more fair). AT101ET, I've now taken account your deal with Max (about the Labyrinth with Silver bearings).

First calculations
Raimonn:3,04695284BTC
AT101ET:0,76969585BTC
Zeroxal:0,41730381BTC
Lairew:1,09507916BTC

Final calculations (and the amount of BTC you have to pay)
Raimonn  |  3,05842752BTC  |  Paid (https://blocktrail.com/tx/dcb243f64799b94044b148cc63d85059dc147729868196a6b41fdb4ef7d1c562)
AT101ET  |  0,56646625BTC  |  Paid (https://blocktrail.com/tx/136cca1d999a84bacb3061b3fcb1efdd60860f7d8eaae99bae8c2b9c429a443f)
Zeroxal  |  0,37198779BTC  |  Paid (https://blocktrail.com/tx/792afa50f41507dd7a4d7f93dca83fdd7d58e1979542f681d7a67c78b00f874b)
Lairew  |  1,09386546BTC  |  Paid (https://blocktrail.com/tx/861b8bce267fa53ecd3ad362b1e0c48dd6df58c82f44a9e617b71149b67195cc)

My excel sheet (with all the calculations) can be found here: Kialara - Group Buy Round 4 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1StXenBd2qufpjmO8riEs4qKhz6NtX3OEYwf9iMcAS48/edit?usp=sharing).


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 06:25:37 PM
Alright, everything should be correct now. Sorry once again.


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 01, 2016, 06:33:50 PM
My payment has been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/792afa50f41507dd7a4d7f93dca83fdd7d58e1979542f681d7a67c78b00f874b

I actually wondered how Mitchell came to his first calculation. But everything went fine at the end :)


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 06:41:12 PM
My payment has been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/792afa50f41507dd7a4d7f93dca83fdd7d58e1979542f681d7a67c78b00f874b

I actually wondered how Mitchell came to his first calculation. But everything went fine at the end :)
Yeah, I'm really sorry about that. I've marked in the spreadsheet that you have paid. Thank you for being so quick and forgiving!


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: AT101ET on February 01, 2016, 07:24:06 PM
Payment has been sent:
https://blockchain.info/tx/136cca1d999a84bacb3061b3fcb1efdd60860f7d8eaae99bae8c2b9c429a443f

If you could arrange it with Max and if he'd be willing to agree, would it be possible to get 1 silver and 1 ceramic?
Not a big deal if it can't be arranged. Would just be nice to have both in the collection.

Thanks :)


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 01, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
Payment has been sent:
https://blockchain.info/tx/136cca1d999a84bacb3061b3fcb1efdd60860f7d8eaae99bae8c2b9c429a443f

If you could arrange it with Max and if he'd be willing to agree, would it be possible to get 1 silver and 1 ceramic?
Not a big deal if it can't be arranged. Would just be nice to have both in the collection.

Thanks :)
If it would be possible, I'd like to have kialara with silver balls please :)
But it seems kialara silvers aren't sold anymore? Not sure.

I'm able to pay extra for the silver balls.


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 07:43:43 PM
I'll contact him and see if we can work something out.


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on February 01, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Hi Mitchell, i just send the payment, here is the tx : https://blockchain.info/tx/dcb243f64799b94044b148cc63d85059dc147729868196a6b41fdb4ef7d1c562

I saw that others asked about the possibility of labyrinth kialaras with silver balls, If its possible i want one of the labyrinth kialaras with silver balls too. If isn't possible, no problem.

Thanks for all.


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
I've updated the payment post and sent Max a PM about this. He'll most likely answer you guys in this thread.


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Lairew on February 01, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
payment done!
TXid: https://blockchain.info/it/tx/861b8bce267fa53ecd3ad362b1e0c48dd6df58c82f44a9e617b71149b67195cc

:D


Title: Re: [PAYMENT TIME][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 08:01:19 PM
Alright, everyone has paid and I've asked Max for a payment address in the last PM. Sooo, let's wait for his answer on your questions and get this party started. ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON MAX][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Kialara on February 01, 2016, 08:11:31 PM
AT101ET, Zeroxal, Raimonn I've noted your requests and I do still have silvers left so this won't be an issue. Mitchell, thanks once again.

I have all parts on hand for the Signature Series pieces and I started on assembly over the weekend. They are looking excellent, and I will begin shipping them this week.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON MAX][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 08:13:36 PM
Alright, so, could everyone please tell me what they want in a comprehensive way? Something like I have in my OP:

Quote
Raimonn : Spain : 2 x Labyrinth, 2x 1BTC Kialara, 2x Kialara Signature (one of each)
Once I have that, I can update the OP, update the excel spreadsheet, give the details to Max and pay the good man.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PARTICIPANTS][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 01, 2016, 08:27:30 PM
Zeroxal : Austria : 1x Kialara Labyrinth with silver balls


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PARTICIPANTS][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 08:30:37 PM
Zeroxal : Austria : 1x Kialara Labyrinth with silver balls
Thank you, OP updated.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PARTICIPANTS][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on February 01, 2016, 08:43:12 PM
Raimonn: Spain
1 x Kialara labyrinth Silver balls.
1 x Kialara labyrinth Ceramic balls.
2 x Kialara Silver 1 BTC.
1 x Kialara Signature - Ricky Allman.
1 x Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PARTICIPANTS][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 08:45:17 PM
Raimonn: Spain
1 x Kialara labyrinth Silver balls.
1 x Kialara labyrinth Ceramic balls.
2 x Kialara Silver 1 BTC.
1 x Kialara Signature - Ricky Allman.
1 x Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski.
Thank you. Updated as well.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PARTICIPANTS][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: AT101ET on February 01, 2016, 09:09:03 PM
AT101ET (United Kingdom):
1 x Labyrinth Silver
1 x Labyrinth Ceramic

Thanks!


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PARTICIPANTS][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 09:11:10 PM
AT101ET (United Kingdom):
1 x Labyrinth Silver
1 x Labyrinth Ceramic

Thanks!
Thank you for confirming! OP updated.


I'm currently waiting for Raimonn's and Lairew's payments to confirm, but it seems that the 0.0001BTC transaction fee is to low.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON LAIREW][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Lairew on February 01, 2016, 10:27:33 PM
wow, really strange, only 1 conf  >:(


Title: [WAITING FOR CONFIRMATIONS][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 01, 2016, 10:29:05 PM
wow, really strange, only 1 conf  >:(
Ah, so now I'm just waiting for Raimonn's transaction to confirm. Once that one is confirmed, I'll forward a part of the money to Max to pay for the lovely coins, as Lairew confirmed his purchase via PM. I'll keep you guys in the loop!


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 02, 2016, 10:58:00 AM
I've just paid (https://blockchain.info/tx/0de9e5ff2483adc482ae15c55d47bce73cb4045330618234aea1925623d28c18) for our coins and gave Max a list of the coins we want for this group buy. Now we wait for the package to be shipped. ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 04, 2016, 09:12:20 PM
A question regarding the numbering of the coins:
Will the kialara labyrinth silver get numbered between 1-700 and ceramic 701-2500 or is there another numbering system involved? (Unnumbered, overnumbered etc...)


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 11, 2016, 05:25:38 PM
A question regarding the numbering of the coins:
Will the kialara labyrinth silver get numbered between 1-700 and ceramic 701-2500 or is there another numbering system involved? (Unnumbered, overnumbered etc...)
I don't know, sorry. Kinda hoped Kialara would reply to you, but it seems that he is busy. :P




I have some amazing news! I received a letter today from PostNL, in which they state that I've paid too much VAT during my previous group buy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084109.0). This is awesome, because I now have a way to proof that we should only pay 6% VAT and not 21%.

However, I will not return the difference between 6% and 21% just yet, as I don't want to take any risks. It would suck if I got the package and it was charged with 21% VAT any. I wouldn't have the money to pay for it.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 11, 2016, 05:40:21 PM
A question regarding the numbering of the coins:
Will the kialara labyrinth silver get numbered between 1-700 and ceramic 701-2500 or is there another numbering system involved? (Unnumbered, overnumbered etc...)
I don't know, sorry. Kinda hoped Kialara would reply to you, but it seems that he is busy. :P
He has been online multiple times today.
I have PMed about buying a 1BTC Kialara and he responded immediately with his payment address yesterday.
Then I sent him the payment confirmation along with this question through PM. Didn't respond afterwards :/
Seems to be very busy. Let's wait :)

Congratulations on getting the VAT reduction ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Kialara on February 11, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
Zeroxal, I'm emailed any time I receive a pm, but visit threads less frequently. You ask if each piece is numbered... yes they are. 01-700 have .999 silver balls inside. (I have around 100 left I believe) 701-2500 have ceramic balls. I received your request for one of each and that's no problem. Thank you.



Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 11, 2016, 07:14:44 PM
Zeroxal, I'm emailed any time I receive a pm, but visit threads less frequently. You ask if each piece is numbered... yes they are. 01-700 have .999 silver balls inside. (I have around 100 left I believe) 701-2500 have ceramic balls. I received your request for one of each and that's no problem. Thank you.


Thank you for the confirmation ;)
Let's hope they'll ship soon. Can't wait to get my hands on these awesome coins ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on February 11, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
A question regarding the numbering of the coins:
Will the kialara labyrinth silver get numbered between 1-700 and ceramic 701-2500 or is there another numbering system involved? (Unnumbered, overnumbered etc...)
I don't know, sorry. Kinda hoped Kialara would reply to you, but it seems that he is busy. :P




I have some amazing news! I received a letter today from PostNL, in which they state that I've paid too much VAT during my previous group buy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084109.0). This is awesome, because I now have a way to proof that we should only pay 6% VAT and not 21%.

However, I will not return the difference between 6% and 21% just yet, as I don't want to take any risks. It would suck if I got the package and it was charged with 21% VAT any. I wouldn't have the money to pay for it.

Very nice news Mitchel, almost if the customs office want to charge another time the 21% of VAT on this group buy you will have  a better change to proof that it has to pay the lower 6%.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 11, 2016, 08:12:57 PM
Quote
Very nice news Mitchel, almost if the customs office want to charge another time the 21% of VAT on this group buy you will have  a better change to proof that it has to pay the lower 6%.
Well, I'm not sure if they do it on purpose, but if it happens again I do have good proof, yes.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 13, 2016, 03:55:49 PM
Hello everybody. I'm sorry about this, but the shipping prices from the dutch postal service has been increased. This means that all of you owe me a small amount of Bitcoins. Don't worry, I'll pay this using the 2% buffer and if it's not enough, I'll pay upfront. Just letting you all know about this.


Old prices:
Quote
Shipping
The Netherlands: €7.95
Rest of Europe: €11.00
Both are Registered mail with Track & Trace included.

New prices:
Quote
Shipping
The Netherlands: €8.15
Rest of Europe: €11.50
Both are Registered mail with Track & Trace included.

The Netherlands: €3.65
Rest of Europe: €11.25
Plain shipping (not Registered and no Track & Trace).

Note: This is the maximum price (if your package is less than 2kg), it's possible that you need to pay less from shipping. However, this only applies if you choose for plain shipping


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on February 23, 2016, 09:26:32 PM
Have the coins been shipped out yet? Max said that they would be shipped out on Monday this week (yesterday).
I'll have the EU group order shipped out Monday, global express.

Is there any tracking number for us to follow the package? I'm so excited ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 23, 2016, 09:27:41 PM
Have the coins been shipped out yet? Max said that they would be shipped out on Monday this week (yesterday).
I'll have the EU group order shipped out Monday, global express.

Is there any tracking number for us to follow the package? I'm so excited ;D
TheNewAnon says he has, but I haven't heard from Kialara yet. I've just sent him a message, so let's see. He probably just forgot to message me. ;p


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on February 23, 2016, 09:35:04 PM
Have the coins been shipped out yet? Max said that they would be shipped out on Monday this week (yesterday).
I'll have the EU group order shipped out Monday, global express.

Is there any tracking number for us to follow the package? I'm so excited ;D
TheNewAnon says he has, but I haven't heard from Kialara yet. I've just sent him a message, so let's see. He probably just forgot to message me. ;p

He PMed me last week saying that he was shipping my package, together with the EU group buy, on monday (yesterday).


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Kialara on February 24, 2016, 12:23:01 AM
Have the coins been shipped out yet? Max said that they would be shipped out on Monday this week (yesterday).
I'll have the EU group order shipped out Monday, global express.

Is there any tracking number for us to follow the package? I'm so excited ;D
TheNewAnon says he has, but I haven't heard from Kialara yet. I've just sent him a message, so let's see. He probably just forgot to message me. ;p

He PMed me last week saying that he was shipping my package, together with the EU group buy, on monday (yesterday).

TheNewAnon135246, I shipped yours and three other international orders earlier today. I'll PM you the tracking info. I just now finished the last pieces for the group buy and they will all ship tomorrow. I'll send over the tracking info to Mitchell. Thanks EU.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on February 24, 2016, 10:41:56 PM
Nice update, I'm happy to know that EU group buy of Kialara is finished and that the coins are shipped (or that will be shipped today). Few days till i will receive my first Kialara coins.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON SHIPMENT][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Kialara on February 25, 2016, 12:32:06 AM
Nice update, I'm happy to know that EU group buy of Kialara is finished and that the coins are shipped (or that will be shipped today). Few days till i will receive my first Kialara coins.

This order shipped this morning. Thanks again! I'm sending Mitchell the tracking info now. Max-


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 25, 2016, 07:36:28 AM
Updated the thread title. Now it's waiting time. ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 26, 2016, 07:57:20 PM
Well.. The package was extremely fast. It has arrived in Amsterdam. I'm guessing it will arrive on Monday (and not tomorrow) because the customs haven't checked the package yet.

Anyway, I should have the coins and be able to ship them next week (if all goes according to plan).


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on February 26, 2016, 08:39:57 PM
Well.. The package was extremely fast. It has arrived in Amsterdam. I'm guessing it will arrive on Monday (and not tomorrow) because the customs haven't checked the package yet.

Anyway, I should have the coins and be able to ship them next week (if all goes according to plan).

My package is waiting for customs clearance as well. You can contact PostNL for a Dutch tracking code. That way you can check how many VAT's you have to pay before the package is delivered.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 26, 2016, 09:28:17 PM
There is no need to contact them, because, as soon as PostNL processes it, you can use the original tracking code in the PostNL tracking system. I noticed that during the last group buy. ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on February 29, 2016, 08:51:32 PM
My package just got cleared by the customs and they are charging me the lower VAT rate (like they should) :).


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on February 29, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
My package just got cleared by the customs and they are charging me the lower VAT rate (like they should) :).
Sweet! Our package hasn't done anything just yet, it's still in Amsterdam. :(


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Poloherb on February 29, 2016, 10:06:28 PM
I got a week ago. A few days in Amsterdam by customs office, the package was open. All complete


http://cryptophysical.com/images/forum/Kialara1


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 01, 2016, 03:27:31 PM
The package has been cleared by the customs, so it should arrive very soon! Now let's hope that the VAT (and all that crap) is low (or non-existent). ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 01, 2016, 03:36:13 PM
The package has been cleared by the customs, so it should arrive very soon! Now let's hope that the VAT (and all that crap) is low (or non-existent). ;D

Ask for a 3S code like I said. Then you can track your package on www.postnl.nl. It also shows you how much you have to pay the delivery guy :)


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 01, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
It seems I'll have to, yes. Last time I could use the USPS tracking code but it ain't working this time.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on March 02, 2016, 05:07:09 PM
Any update? I can't wait to get my hands on them ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 02, 2016, 05:28:54 PM
Any update? I can't wait to get my hands on them ;D
Yes I do! The total tax is €92.20 and the package has been registered with PostNL, but they haven't received it yet (from the customs I assume).

By the way, TheNewAnon135246, I was right. I haven't had time to call PostNL today (business hours and all that) and I just entered my tracking code on internationalparceltracking.com, which gave me the 3S code. ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on March 02, 2016, 11:44:23 PM
Mmm good news, the coins are near ... we only need to wait some days to have them on our hands. For the tax amount i can see that finally its only 6% (not the 21%) not ? If its the low one, great news.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 03, 2016, 06:04:06 AM
That is correct. We got charged the right amount of tax. I hope that PostNL hurries up with delivering the coins to me.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Pulsarmaster on March 03, 2016, 06:10:50 AM
hello i whant some too still possible?


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 03, 2016, 06:12:13 AM
hello i whant some too still possible?
Obviously not. The package is on its way to me. I can't magically add more Kialara's to the package. ::)


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Lairew on March 03, 2016, 01:06:15 PM
Quote
I can't magically add more Kialara's to the package. Roll Eyes

That's sad  :( :( :(

 ;D


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 03, 2016, 05:29:33 PM
Alright, the package has been delivered to my local post office, but I can't pick it up till tomorrow 1PM. This will be a problem, as I won't be home till Sunday evening, so the earliest I can ship the Kialara's are Monday evening (if I'm quick, as I'm done at work at 5PM and the postal office closes at 6PM) or Tuesday morning (before going to work).

I'll try and ask someone to pick up the Kialara's over the weekend, but I cannot promise anything (because, officially, only I can sign for the package). I'm sorry guys, I guess we all need to wait a few more days.

EDIT: I did cycle to my local post office (at 5:45PM) to see if I can pick it up anyway, but I couldn't. It sucks.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on March 03, 2016, 08:41:49 PM
Don't worry you made all that you can to avoid delays, i think that i can wait one or two more days  ;) , if you ship monday or  on tuesday morning i think that i could receive it on friday. I will have the weekend to make photos of them and publish it here.


Title: Re: [WAITING ON PACKAGE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 05, 2016, 08:08:19 PM
If anyone wants a nice case for their Kialara, you/I could order these (http://www.aliexpress.com/item//32348391746.html). I'm not sure how good their quality is as I've yet to receive them (ordered them today), but if they are a copy of the Lindner Eco (http://www.lindner-original.de/en/nimbus-eco-schwarz-8458.html) ones, they must be pretty good. ;D

EDIT: I'll pickup the package on Monday and I'll ship the Kialara's as soon as possible. I'll PM everyone for their address and with the question if they want me to hold onto their coin (in case they're participating in any of my other group buys).


Title: Re: [PACKAGE IS WAITING ON PICKUP][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on March 05, 2016, 11:03:13 PM
Hi Mitchell, I sent you the address on pm. These cases looks nice but i bought the original nimbus cases on lindner website some days ago. Write your opinion about this cheap cases when you receive it, at this price will be really interesting.


Title: Re: [PACKAGE IS WAITING ON PICKUP][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 05, 2016, 11:05:21 PM
Hi Mitchell, I sent you the address on pm. These cases looks nice but i bought the original nimbus cases on lindner website some days ago. Write your opinion about this cheap cases when you receive it, at this price will be really interesting.
I've received your address and I'll definitely report back on those cases!


Title: Re: [PACKAGE IS WAITING ON PICKUP][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 06, 2016, 07:31:31 AM
The cases work really well for coins but the Kialara is slightly too big. It fits, but the frame won't close properly. I think there are slightly bigger ones available on Aliexpress (of you are looking to store Kialaras).

Here is a photo of my .999 silver LuckyBit wallet in the frame:

https://i.imgur.com/OLus6Ev.jpg

Here is an example of the Kialara:

https://i.imgur.com/xrDEuIh.jpg


Title: Re: [PACKAGE IS WAITING ON PICKUP][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 06, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
I bought the 11 x 11 x 2 cm version which has a space of 9.5 x 9.5 x 2 centimeter on the inside, which should be able to hold at least the latest Kialara. That version is 3.6 x 2.2 x 0.3 inch (so 9.15 x 5.59 x 0.77 centimeter, everything rounded up), so it should fit.

If it isn't able to hold the Kialara's then the given dimension are incorrect and I'll ask for a refund. ;D


Title: Re: [PACKAGE IS WAITING ON PICKUP][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on March 06, 2016, 11:37:19 AM
I bought the 11 x 11 x 2 cm version which has a space of 9.5 x 9.5 x 2 centimeter on the inside, which should be able to hold at least the latest Kialara. That version is 3.6 x 2.2 x 0.3 inch (so 9.15 x 5.59 x 0.77 centimeter, everything rounded up).

If it isn't able to hold the Kialara's then the given dimension are incorrect and I'll ask for a refund. ;D
I think the thickness of the kialaras stretch the plastic layers that much, that if you try to close it, the plastic will brake. But maybe you could put the kialara in diagonally?

Mitchell, I see you are using a black frame for your kialara right now, mind sharing the dimensions?


Title: Re: [PACKAGE IS WAITING ON PICKUP][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
I think the thickness of the kialaras stretch the plastic layers that much, that if you try to close it, the plastic will brake. But maybe you could put the kialara in diagonally?

Mitchell, I see you are using a black frame for your kialara right now, mind sharing the dimensions?
The Kialara is only 0.77cm thick so the plastic shouldn't break I suppose. Guess I'll find out when I receive the frames. ;D

The black frame that I use right now is a Lindner Nimbus Eco (http://www.lindner-original.de/en/nimbus-eco-schwarz-8458.html) and it's dimensions are 10 X 10 X 2.4 cm.


Title: Re: [PACKAGE IS WAITING ON PICKUP][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 06, 2016, 11:44:10 AM
I bought the 11 x 11 x 2 cm version which has a space of 9.5 x 9.5 x 2 centimeter on the inside, which should be able to hold at least the latest Kialara. That version is 3.6 x 2.2 x 0.3 inch (so 9.15 x 5.59 x 0.77 centimeter, everything rounded up).

If it isn't able to hold the Kialara's then the given dimension are incorrect and I'll ask for a refund. ;D
I think the thickness of the kialaras stretch the plastic layers that much, that if you try to close it, the plastic will brake. But maybe you could put the kialara in diagonally?

Mitchell, I see you are using a black frame for your kialara right now, mind sharing the dimensions?

It won't break the membrane. Mine closes but it won't stay locked because there is just a little too much tension on the membrane. A bigger one will easily hold the Kialara :).


Title: Re: [LEFTOVERS!!][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 07, 2016, 07:13:47 PM
Alright! I have picked up the package and I'm currently in the process of sorting all the items and putting them in the right envelop. These bad boys will be posted today, but won't ship till tomorrow (because it's past 6PM).

EDIT: Max wrapped the Kialara's in a shitload of blue tape so some Kialara's outer sleeves will be a bit torn up.


EDIT2: It seems that every Kialara is wrapped in two outer sleeves. Man, Max knows how to pack his items!

EDIT3: The Kialara signatures are A LOT heavier than the normal Kialara's. I hope I can ship all these Kialara's for the prices stated in the OP :-x

EDIT4: Sorry Raimonn, I can't match your Signature Kialara's. I have 1 #56 Ricky Allman and no #56 Julia Tourianski (only 57, 58, 59 and 60).

EDIT5: Shit. Raimonn, your package is too big and it has to be sent as a package.

EDIT6: Raimonn and Lairew, you both received two screwdrivers, because you bought purchases two Signature's, but I only sent one to save space. If this is a problem, let me know and I'll ship the other screwdriver as well.




Alright. I've just dropped off all the packages at a local post office. This one couldn't ship them as letters though, so everyone had to pay 13 euros for shipping instead of the prices quoted in the OP. As I made the call on this I'll take the hit and pay for this decision from my own pocket. Raimonn this does not include you as your package was to heavy to be sent as a letter anyway.

I'll send everyone their track and trace code right now.

EDIT: Done. I'm gonna take a small break now and after that I'll calculate the leftovers.




Alright, we have a leftover of € 363,38, which is very nice and this is due to the fact that we were charged only 6% VAT instead of 21%. ;D

Leftovers
Raimonn  ||  0,48904075BTC  ||  Sent (https://blocktrail.com/tx/9eb564fc708a731ab4ac79d81eb55d0925204303674ae78948ae285922bf5325)
AT101ET  ||  0,09058223BTC  ||  Sent back 0.75BTC (https://blocktrail.com/tx/33c7f4b042e112e3e8c79577089b976c72e322b3ed7da5fba3d8acca37be2faa), rest donated
Zeroxal  ||  0,21654993BTC  ||  Sent back 0.2BTC (https://blocktrail.com/tx/7ca121f4376c717c491397e1ef11a92cf7901f15d086de242d4be1386a96585e), rest donated
Lairew  ||  0,17491207BTC  ||  Sent (https://blocktrail.com/tx/95d593c9bcbbbcaed9cbf4c6b93ac36959c8c3492336e7bfe94ecd5a0f5a5dbc)

Please give me an address if you want me to return your BTC.


Title: Re: [LEFTOVERS!!][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on March 07, 2016, 11:01:38 PM
Thanks Mitchell for the updates, and all the work. I confirm that i received the bitcoin transference, and the shipping tracking of my package. I will post the pictures of the kialaras when i receive them.


Title: Re: [LEFTOVERS!!][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on March 08, 2016, 06:02:20 AM
Wow, so much left over ;D
Please send 0.2 BTC back to 18WvTJ1M3gAr6xYfFtWtsH1RikTXfvhEBN and leave the rest as a tip for the awesome group buy you have organized ;)


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 08, 2016, 06:28:55 AM
Thanks Mitchell for the updates, and all the work. I confirm that i received the bitcoin transference, and the shipping tracking of my package. I will post the pictures of the kialaras when i receive them.
Thank you very much. I can't wait to hear that everyone has receive their package. ;D

Wow, so much left over ;D
Please send 0.2 BTC back to 18WvTJ1M3gAr6xYfFtWtsH1RikTXfvhEBN and leave the rest as a tip for the awesome group buy you have organized ;)
Thank you very much, here you go: 7ca121f4376c717c491397e1ef11a92cf7901f15d086de242d4be1386a96585e




The group buy is hereby finished. Thanks everyone!


Title: Re: [LEFTOVERS!!][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 08, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
Thanks Mitchell for the updates, and all the work. I confirm that i received the bitcoin transference, and the shipping tracking of my package. I will post the pictures of the kialaras when i receive them.

I happen to have the #56 Julia Tourianski ;D. I am willing to trade it for your #5X Julia Tourianski if you are willing to pay for the shipping costs.


Title: Re: [LEFTOVERS!!][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on March 08, 2016, 01:30:00 PM
Thanks Mitchell for the updates, and all the work. I confirm that i received the bitcoin transference, and the shipping tracking of my package. I will post the pictures of the kialaras when i receive them.

I happen to have the #56 Julia Tourianski ;D. I am willing to trade it for your #5X Julia Tourianski if you are willing to pay for the shipping costs.

Oh this will be very nice, thanks for your offer TheNewAnon135246. I will send you a pm when i receive the kialaras (I suppose that i will receive them on the end of this week.


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 08, 2016, 01:31:22 PM
Sorry Raimonn. If I knew that TheNewAnon135246 had the Kialara to match your signature set, I would haven't have shipped it. TheAnon and I both live in The Netherlands so that would have made the trade a bit cheaper and quicker.


TheNewAnon135246, thank you for offering this trade and all the feedback and help you have posted in this thread. ;D


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 08, 2016, 03:05:37 PM
Unfortunately I didn't notice it earlier :(. It's still pretty cheap considering that are no VAT's ;D


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Lairew on March 12, 2016, 11:35:49 AM
2015 Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski it's awesome, really beautiful!
All arrived in perfect condition.
thanks again for this service Mitchełł  ;)


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 12, 2016, 02:54:53 PM
2015 Kialara Signature - Julia Tourianski it's awesome, really beautiful!
All arrived in perfect condition.
thanks again for this service Mitchełł  ;)
Glad to hear that! No problem and till next time!


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Raimonn on March 14, 2016, 01:45:53 PM
Received today,

https://i.imgur.com/twXk54O.jpg

Kialaras are very nice "art-coins", also the signature series looks amazing.
Thanks Mitchell.


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Zeroxal on March 15, 2016, 10:23:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UyBNXSY.jpg
The kialaras arrived safely after having some problems with the pickup-box in my local post office. The box had some sort of error and therefore couldn't open my box, where my kialaras were stored.
So we needed to brake it open in order to get my kialaras ;D

I'm glad they arrived


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Kialara on March 15, 2016, 04:29:33 PM
Lairew, Raimonn, Zeroxal, happy to see your orders arrived safely!

Mitchell, thanks once again. In the spirit of bitcoin, I've ordered you a pair of alpaca socks; an essential for every bitcoin enthusiasts wardrobe.   :D

https://i.imgur.com/a0lcE1s.jpg


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 15, 2016, 05:15:03 PM
That's awesome Max, thank you so much! I'm also glad that people are getting their sweet ass Kialara's. ;D


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on March 21, 2016, 09:14:59 PM
I've received my Chinese Lindner Eco clones today and the Kialara fits. Barely, but it fits and it looks amazing. It's also very flexible, which is sweet! ;D


https://i.imgur.com/9W7K25Xm.jpg (http://imgur.com/9W7K25X)   https://i.imgur.com/8vQRb95m.jpg (http://imgur.com/8vQRb95)   https://i.imgur.com/h6EsZt3m.jpg (http://imgur.com/h6EsZt3)


Title: Re: [DONE][GROUP BUY][EU] Kialara Physical Bitcoin [ROUND 4]
Post by: Mitchell on April 13, 2016, 08:26:32 PM
Lairew, Raimonn, Zeroxal, happy to see your orders arrived safely!

Mitchell, thanks once again. In the spirit of bitcoin, I've ordered you a pair of alpaca socks; an essential for every bitcoin enthusiasts wardrobe.   :D

https://i.ibb.co/JsxSGkS/14530308.jpg
I've received my alpaca socks! Thank you very much Max, much appreciated. I'm closing this thread now as everything has been dealt with. Thank you all for trusting me!

https://i.imgur.com/9rFfTgHm.jpg?1 (http://imgur.com/a/78Sfv)