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Title: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: pianist on December 20, 2015, 01:21:47 AM
As I see, BIP62 status is "withdrawn":

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0062.mediawiki

Are there any comments about this BIP? What's wrong with it?

And one more question: how to contact Lightning Network guys? I tried their official email, but it looks like my message got into SPAM box. :(

I have some questions about colored coins implementation on top of Lightning Network for fast trading of assets.


Title: Re: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: achow101 on December 20, 2015, 01:30:35 AM
As I see, BIP62 status is "withdrawn":

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0062.mediawiki

Are there any comments about this BIP? What's wrong with it?
According to the commit that marks it as withdrawn:
Quote
All of BIP62's (including the only-new-transactions) are currently enforced
as standardness rules, but it seems hard to push it further. Every new type
of complex transaction may require new extra rules, and some important types
of malleability cannot be addressed by it (for example, a single participant
in a multisig spend creating a new signature with a different nonce).
It seems wiser to pursue normalized txid or segregated witness-based
solutions, which do solve this problem more fundamentally.


Title: Re: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: jl2012 on December 20, 2015, 01:46:01 PM
As I see, BIP62 status is "withdrawn":

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0062.mediawiki

Are there any comments about this BIP? What's wrong with it?

And one more question: how to contact Lightning Network guys? I tried their official email, but it looks like my message got into SPAM box. :(

I have some questions about colored coins implementation on top of Lightning Network for fast trading of assets.


Segregated witness is a way better solution for malleability, plus more

You certainly could trade colored coins over LN.


Title: Re: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: pianist on December 20, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
Segregated witness is a way better solution for malleability, plus more

Where can I read about segregated witness?

Any updates on LN? Current whitepaper requires BIP62's features.


Title: Re: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: RoadTrain on December 20, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
Segregated witness is a way better solution for malleability, plus more

Where can I read about segregated witness?
I don't know what exactly you want, but there's a discussion thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1279444.0


Title: Re: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: jl2012 on December 21, 2015, 01:24:36 AM
Segregated witness is a way better solution for malleability, plus more

Where can I read about segregated witness?

Any updates on LN? Current whitepaper requires BIP62's features.


BIP62 has nothing to do with LN

For segwit, go https://8333.info



Title: Re: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: jl2012 on December 21, 2015, 01:37:57 PM
Here explains why BIP62 can't solve the problem:

https://github.com/jl2012/bips/blob/segwit/bip-segwit.mediawiki#Trustfree_unconfirmed_transaction_dependency_chain


Title: Re: BIP62 and Lightning Network status
Post by: pianist on January 03, 2016, 03:43:36 PM
Have you deleted BIP? Or just moved somewhere else?