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Title: Warning
Post by: goodlord666 on December 09, 2012, 12:50:14 PM
Hello

this is the first time I think I ever post in this section.

I'm not in a particularly good mood these days, because the situation isn't particularly good.

I'm all about fun and good times but when things aren't going well I feel the need to express it.

I believe many people prefer to distract themselves with good news and cheerful hope for the better because that's natural (I do the same, often enough anyway) but skimming through the forums and observing things elsewhere I have come to realize that we have a tendency to collectively neglect taking actions which can effectively avert potential dangers.

I have been a social scout my whole life, basically, observing and understanding different social environments in different parts of the world, and while things may seem OK on the outside, it has become evident that the direction things are taking could lead to a disaster.

Most people, if not all, have a longing. It is communicated subtly and vaguely. But it seems we are programmed to follow routines of the past. We all know things should be different and we all know we can do better, but something keeps us from doing it.

I have just recently stumbled upon a quote by Bill Gates which I believe is very fitting:

"The first rule of any technology used in a business is that automation applied to an efficient operation will magnify the efficiency. The second is that automation applied to an inefficient operation will magnify the inefficiency."

Bitcoin is very important, but it is not the single solution to the problems we're facing. And if things continue the way they have been in the past we're in for some serious trouble. And Bitcoin may make it even worse, even if it's successful at a first glance.

What I'm talking about is a World War. There, I said it.

Now, you should always beware the one who gives warnings like that, but the facts have been out there and we've seen the effects of our economic behavior before and I only now care to address this. The opportunity Bitcoin has offered us does not seem to be utilized to its full potential. Most people are falling back into the same old patterns. And that's not good.

I have been struggling with the amount and extent of ignorance, hostility and mistrust around people, towards myself and towards one another and between groups of people. We live in a culture of pessimism and negativity, even when veiling it by friendly words and smiles.

And I have found that many people are fed up with this. Just like myself.

Fundamental change is ahead. And if it's misinterpreted as provocation, the outcome will be brutal. Irreversible and final.

Our system is flawed. And it's maybe best to save ourselves the time to figure out where and why exactly and just do things differently. Just the way we all know it works already.

I'm a regular guy. I'm on Facebook, I have a regular email-address, a phone number and if you really cared it would be easy for you to find out who I am and get in touch.

I'm just stepping forward now, because I don't give a shit.





Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Lethn on December 09, 2012, 01:22:01 PM
After studying a lot of history I have a lot of faith that as with previous wannabe empires Afghanistan will stop America from progressing in its bid for world domination, I know what you mean though, the racist, hate-mongering shit heads around the place can be distressing at times and it does worry me the kind of damage they can do locally.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: myrkul on December 09, 2012, 05:26:04 PM
After studying a lot of history I have a lot of faith that as with previous wannabe empires Afghanistan will stop America from progressing in its bid for world domination, I know what you mean though, the racist, hate-mongering shit heads around the place can be distressing at times and it does worry me the kind of damage they can do locally.

Afghanistan is an army sink. It eats empires for breakfast.

That's not to say WW3 isn't coming. I just don't think it's along the "Path to Persia." When it starts, it will likely come from a completely unexpected direction, that, seen through the lens of history, will seem to have been inevitable.

In other words, we're going to get blindsided.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: AndrewBUD on December 09, 2012, 05:36:47 PM
A lot of crazy shit is going to happen in the near future.




Title: Re: Warning
Post by: myrkul on December 09, 2012, 05:41:45 PM
A lot of crazy shit is going to happen in the near future.

Ever play the Fallout series of games?  ;)


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: AndrewBUD on December 09, 2012, 05:43:48 PM
A lot of crazy shit is going to happen in the near future.

Ever play the Fallout series of games?  ;)


Yupper... The last 2 anyway... New vegas and 3


 Ever watch the TV series Revolution? (Currently running)




Title: Re: Warning
Post by: myrkul on December 09, 2012, 05:47:31 PM
A lot of crazy shit is going to happen in the near future.

Ever play the Fallout series of games?  ;)
Yupper... The last 2 anyway... New vegas and 3


 Ever watch the TV series Revolution? (Currently running)

Yeah, but a Canadian annexation is a lot more likely than physics going haywire.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: myrkul on December 09, 2012, 06:02:37 PM
Government crumbling could will happen

FTFY.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Charlie Prime on December 09, 2012, 09:34:50 PM
What I'm talking about is a World War. There, I said it.

The Powers That Be don't conduct world wars anymore.  The Banksters don't need it, and the people would not stand for it.

I don't follow mainstream media, so I don't know who caused you to suddenly become concerned enough speak out here.

What has made you concerned?


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Monster Tent on December 09, 2012, 10:04:23 PM
The war is already here between corporations and the cattle. When I say corporations I include governments. Between the food we eat and the flouride in the water to the dumbing down of the population through state education the end game is almost upon us. Slavery has always been a human condition but now the slave masters are supremely efficient at it.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Charlie Prime on December 09, 2012, 11:17:56 PM
...slave masters are supremely efficient at it.

That's what I was thinking.  The Masters don't need a world war.  The wars during the last hundred years consolidated their control over industry, agriculture, and finance.  Western cattle would no more pick up a gun and tell the tax man to shove off than they would throw out their television and cell phone.  It's a done deal.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: ElectricMucus on December 09, 2012, 11:25:10 PM
tl;dr: Unwarranted and paranoid opinion, about war, uses Bill Gates quote.


Ever thought about between which parties this war gonna be?


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: lebing on December 09, 2012, 11:41:02 PM

Our system is flawed. And it's maybe best to save ourselves the time to figure out where and why exactly and just do things differently. Just the way we all know it works already.


“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
—Buckminster Fuller
 
I've been working on alternative modes of living for nearly 3 years now. And no, I'm not talking about being a prepper. Preppers prepare for disaster, they dont build a new system.

I spent the last few years touring around the world studying permaculture and ecovillages and am going to put down roots in a community in the spring. There are thousands of people like me out there already who are researching & building a new system, quietly and patiently waiting for a tipping point when average people start to get fed up with the existing system and look for alternatives.



Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Bitcopia on December 10, 2012, 06:28:34 AM
The war is already here between corporations and the cattle. When I say corporations I include governments. Between the food we eat and the flouride in the water to the dumbing down of the population through state education the end game is almost upon us. Slavery has always been a human condition but now the slave masters are supremely efficient at it.

+1 It's a new kind of slavery, where people usually are not aware that they are slaves.

But on the whole, the world is much more educated and less violent than many other periods of history. I believe we are coming to a more interconnected world that will be able to be held accountable much more easily than in the past. The freedom of information is amazing, and though some places try to stop this freedom.. China, Iran, etc... there are relatively simple technologies to access and share ideas that governments wish to suppress. (TOR + GPG is so easy to use and so hard to track or stop.) The will of the masses always prevails in the end, and the masses have good intentions when they are aware. If we can continue to stay one step ahead in the freedom of information, which I believe we will, then I think we'll all be ok.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: goodlord666 on December 10, 2012, 12:42:07 PM

Our system is flawed. And it's maybe best to save ourselves the time to figure out where and why exactly and just do things differently. Just the way we all know it works already.


“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
—Buckminster Fuller
 
I've been working on alternative modes of living for nearly 3 years now. And no, I'm not talking about being a prepper. Preppers prepare for disaster, they dont build a new system.

I spent the last few years touring around the world studying permaculture and ecovillages and am going to put down roots in a community in the spring. There are thousands of people like me out there already who are researching & building a new system, quietly and patiently waiting for a tipping point when average people start to get fed up with the existing system and look for alternatives.



I like that. It offers something new.

Preparing for disaster provokes it, that's something I tried to get across in my post.

Loosen up and enjoy life!


EDIT: Do you have a tipping address?



Title: Re: Warning
Post by: lebing on December 10, 2012, 04:55:35 PM

Our system is flawed. And it's maybe best to save ourselves the time to figure out where and why exactly and just do things differently. Just the way we all know it works already.


“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
—Buckminster Fuller
 
I've been working on alternative modes of living for nearly 3 years now. And no, I'm not talking about being a prepper. Preppers prepare for disaster, they dont build a new system.

I spent the last few years touring around the world studying permaculture and ecovillages and am going to put down roots in a community in the spring. There are thousands of people like me out there already who are researching & building a new system, quietly and patiently waiting for a tipping point when average people start to get fed up with the existing system and look for alternatives.



I like that. It offers something new.

Preparing for disaster provokes it, that's something I tried to get across in my post.

Loosen up and enjoy life!


EDIT: Do you have a tipping address?


Exactly!

Here's a tip address: 163dXoX3bfrM8t8DwbhzfHdGYNQfYfXhK6

If you want to chat more in depth about system building, let me know


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: tbdunamis on December 22, 2012, 03:04:17 AM
"Preparing for disaster provokes it"

+1


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: myrkul on December 22, 2012, 03:12:30 AM
"Preparing for disaster provokes it"

+1

Tell that to the Mormons.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Richy_T on December 22, 2012, 05:21:16 AM
But on the whole, the world is much more educated and less violent than many other periods of history.

For educated, read indoctrinated. It doesn't have to be that way and I am a big fan of true education but in the hands of the state, it has been subverted for unfortunate ends.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Richy_T on December 22, 2012, 05:23:07 AM

Exactly!

Here's a tip address: 163dXoX3bfrM8t8DwbhzfHdGYNQfYfXhK6

If you want to chat more in depth about system building, let me know

Please consider starting a thread about it. I'm somewhat cynical but always interested in new ideas.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Richy_T on December 22, 2012, 05:25:00 AM
So you guys don't wear seatbelts and remove the spare tires from your cars?

And insurance, that's just gambling, right?


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: lebing on December 22, 2012, 07:11:04 AM

Exactly!

Here's a tip address: 163dXoX3bfrM8t8DwbhzfHdGYNQfYfXhK6

If you want to chat more in depth about system building, let me know

Please consider starting a thread about it. I'm somewhat cynical but always interested in new ideas.

Sure. I'll do my best.


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: goodlord666 on January 06, 2013, 09:37:40 PM

Exactly!

Here's a tip address: 163dXoX3bfrM8t8DwbhzfHdGYNQfYfXhK6

If you want to chat more in depth about system building, let me know

Please consider starting a thread about it. I'm somewhat cynical but always interested in new ideas.

Sure. I'll do my best.



If it weren't for those post-donatory second-thoughts...

I scrutinized your avatar a little better and it shows a hamster stuffing away corn. And the corresponding slogan that says "Hoard."
It's a good thing you warned me of those prepper folks you don't wanna be mistaken for.
Now I think it's only fair I warn you, too. Because I'm not sure the direction you're taking is the one you wanna go.

When push comes to shove, you better take care of yourselves. Because I sucked at playing Lemmings. Just to let you know.



Title: Re: Warning
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 06, 2013, 09:49:16 PM
Preparing for disaster provokes it

What absolute nonsense!   ::)

Does my silver stack cause Helicopter Ben to print money?  NO!

Does my emergency water supply cause earthquakes and hurricanes?  NO!

Did having a gun cause these (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135084.msg1438485#msg1438485) mothers' homes to be invaded, or save their children? 

Weakness invites aggression.  Always has, always will. 

Peace through strength is the way to go.   8)


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: lebing on January 07, 2013, 03:30:21 AM

Exactly!

Here's a tip address: 163dXoX3bfrM8t8DwbhzfHdGYNQfYfXhK6

If you want to chat more in depth about system building, let me know

Please consider starting a thread about it. I'm somewhat cynical but always interested in new ideas.

Sure. I'll do my best.



If it weren't for those post-donatory second-thoughts...

I scrutinized your avatar a little better and it shows a hamster stuffing away corn. And the corresponding slogan that says "Hoard."
It's a good thing you warned me of those prepper folks you don't wanna be mistaken for.
Now I think it's only fair I warn you, too. Because I'm not sure the direction you're taking is the one you wanna go.

When push comes to shove, you better take care of yourselves. Because I sucked at playing Lemmings. Just to let you know.

The avatar is a bit of a joke about the state of bitcoin at the moment, not a personal philosophy =P



Title: Re: Warning
Post by: goodlord666 on January 09, 2013, 12:00:09 AM

Exactly!

Here's a tip address: 163dXoX3bfrM8t8DwbhzfHdGYNQfYfXhK6

If you want to chat more in depth about system building, let me know

Please consider starting a thread about it. I'm somewhat cynical but always interested in new ideas.

Sure. I'll do my best.



If it weren't for those post-donatory second-thoughts...

I scrutinized your avatar a little better and it shows a hamster stuffing away corn. And the corresponding slogan that says "Hoard."
It's a good thing you warned me of those prepper folks you don't wanna be mistaken for.
Now I think it's only fair I warn you, too. Because I'm not sure the direction you're taking is the one you wanna go.

When push comes to shove, you better take care of yourselves. Because I sucked at playing Lemmings. Just to let you know.

The avatar is a bit of a joke about the state of bitcoin at the moment, not a personal philosophy =P



That puts it in a whole new light.
I see double meanings in everything these days.

Anyway, how much did I donate? .1, .01? That's still a couple million Satoshis. Will that buy me a ticket to the magic village eventually if the get-rich-quick-thing doesn't work out for me?

Thanks in advance
gl666 :)



Title: Re: Warning
Post by: lebing on January 09, 2013, 12:35:47 AM

Exactly!

Here's a tip address: 163dXoX3bfrM8t8DwbhzfHdGYNQfYfXhK6

If you want to chat more in depth about system building, let me know

Please consider starting a thread about it. I'm somewhat cynical but always interested in new ideas.

Sure. I'll do my best.



If it weren't for those post-donatory second-thoughts...

I scrutinized your avatar a little better and it shows a hamster stuffing away corn. And the corresponding slogan that says "Hoard."
It's a good thing you warned me of those prepper folks you don't wanna be mistaken for.
Now I think it's only fair I warn you, too. Because I'm not sure the direction you're taking is the one you wanna go.

When push comes to shove, you better take care of yourselves. Because I sucked at playing Lemmings. Just to let you know.

The avatar is a bit of a joke about the state of bitcoin at the moment, not a personal philosophy =P



That puts it in a whole new light.
I see double meanings in everything these days.

Anyway, how much did I donate? .1, .01? That's still a couple million Satoshis. Will that buy me a ticket to the magic village eventually if the get-rich-quick-thing doesn't work out for me?

Thanks in advance
gl666 :)

Theres no buying your way into this village brother - you gotta build it yourself!


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: elektibi75 on September 26, 2013, 11:33:06 AM
And what counties would be involved in WW3?


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Bitware on September 26, 2013, 05:15:10 PM
I am more worried about Civil War again in American than I am of a World War, amid the whispers of talk of secession being denied...


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: Hfleer on September 30, 2013, 04:40:30 AM
tl;dr: Unwarranted and paranoid opinion, about war, uses Bill Gates quote.


Ever thought about between which parties this war gonna be?

Thanks for that, I couldn't get myself to read his whole text right now.  As far as parties, what are my options?


Title: Re: Warning
Post by: AU on September 30, 2013, 12:53:35 PM
I've done quite a bit a reading and what I come to realise is most books have been altered to fit the "times"