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Title: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: dwdollar on September 28, 2010, 05:30:39 PM It seems to be "full steam ahead" for proposing Internet regulation.
http://www.geek.com/articles/news/former-cia-director-proposes-presidential-kill-switch-for-internet-20100928/ (http://www.geek.com/articles/news/former-cia-director-proposes-presidential-kill-switch-for-internet-20100928/) Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2010, 02:04:02 AM I wish we had a kill switch for politicians :-X
Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: dwdollar on September 29, 2010, 02:38:22 AM I betcha some Air Force generals are pissed because they have to divert funds into the new Cyber Command. They want that money for Raptors and black budget projects. In their minds, having a "kill switch" is more cost effective than squadrons of computer scientists and technicians.
Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: MoonShadow on September 29, 2010, 03:45:17 AM How could there be a 'kill switch' at all? Wouldn't that both require that the internet protocal be rewritten to not route around censorship as if it were a fault as well as require that every major nation worldwide agree that the president of the United States should have such a power over their domestic infrastructure?
I really can't see how this could be implimented, even if it could be legislated. Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2010, 04:27:01 AM http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/25/secrecy/index.html (http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/25/secrecy/index.html)
Quote But what's most notable here is that one of the arguments the Obama DOJ raises to demand dismissal of this lawsuit is "state secrets": in other words, not only does the President have the right to sentence Americans to death with no due process or charges of any kind, but his decisions as to who will be killed and why he wants them dead are "state secrets," and thus no court may adjudicate their legality. These people dont really care what the legislation says.... Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: jgarzik on September 29, 2010, 03:51:23 PM How could there be a 'kill switch' at all? Wouldn't that both require that the internet protocal be rewritten to not route around censorship as if it were a fault as well as require that every major nation worldwide agree that the president of the United States should have such a power over their domestic infrastructure? They can shut down the major exchanges, such as the ones formerly known as MAE-East and MAE-West, or the one in Tampa. Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: MoonShadow on September 29, 2010, 05:52:01 PM How could there be a 'kill switch' at all? Wouldn't that both require that the internet protocal be rewritten to not route around censorship as if it were a fault as well as require that every major nation worldwide agree that the president of the United States should have such a power over their domestic infrastructure? They can shut down the major exchanges, such as the ones formerly known as MAE-East and MAE-West, or the one in Tampa. True. But that would only bring the Internet to a crawl, not actually stop communications. It wouldn't take very long at all for the general public to give up on Youtube and leave the remainder of the Internet alone to handle email and IM traffic. Enemies of the state probably aren't using video confrencing to coordinate, so what would be the point? Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: ledskof on September 29, 2010, 05:54:32 PM How could something like this possibly protect anything?
Shouldn't there just be a kill switch on sensitive systems? i.e. a way to disconnect systems being attacked. I'm a network manager. We have redundancy and security for a reason. We don't turn the whole freaking company communications off just because we're getting DOSed or hacked. How could this be considered anything but another step towards a police state? The govt needs to stop gaining new ways to silence the public. Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: ribuck on September 30, 2010, 11:04:37 AM If the authorities kill YouTube, the masses will rebel.
Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: ledskof on September 30, 2010, 08:07:46 PM The authorities use youtube for propaganda and stifle truth there, so I really doubt they will be shutting it down anytime soon.
Title: Re: Former CIA Director proposes Presidential kill switch for Internet Post by: MoonShadow on September 30, 2010, 10:41:45 PM If the authorities kill YouTube, the masses will rebel. I wasn't suggesting that Youtube would be a target, but that shutting down the first tier network hubs would limit throughput to the point that youtube and any other media site would become frustratingly slow. This would also slow down text based communications, such as email and jabber, but those aren't real time protocals. Email was designed to take up to seven days to reach it's goal. |