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Economy => Computer hardware => Topic started by: Xircom on December 25, 2015, 04:28:25 PM



Title: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on December 25, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
Part of my farm is up for sale.
Is running in Iceland in Hosting center, so needs to be either packed down and shipped or taken ower by byer. Always runned in cooled environment. If packed down expect 1-2 week shipping time. If complete farm is bourght I will ship with TNT-economy express paid by me if shipped within Western EU. If local Pickup is needed it could be arranged from pick-up point in Denmark.

35 pcs Spondoolies SP20e (Running 1.3-1.5 TH)Max Temp 71° (Can run 1.6-1.7 TH)
48 pcs Bitmain S5 (Running 1.1-1.2 TH) Max temp 58° (Can run 1.25-1.35 TH)

All miners are running on server PSU`s and breakout boards. If new owner would like to take over PSU´s and Breakout boards we can find a combined price.

Complete setup runs 108-110TH minimum.
Escrow is a must.

Price for complete farm = 23.000,-$ (No Import TAX, Tax is paid already)

**EDIT 26/12-2015**

Many has asked to split up and I will do so in a weeks time if no one wants to buy the complete setup.

Miners will then be sold in lots: (Shipment is done by TNT-economy Express paid by me, so remember no shipping costs ** ONLY Within EU**)
1 x S5 = 310$ a pcs
3 x S5 = 290$
5 x S5 = 275$

1 x SP20e = 340$ a pcs
3 x SP20e = 320$
5 x SP20e = 300$

** EDIT 28/12-2015**
Im trying to keep up with answerring everybody farst. Sorry friends from outsite EU, but it takes a little longer to answer you all in short time do to timezone.
People ask also for miner monittoring proof ?, so please see below view of this part of my farm. I use Awesome Miner software.

** EDIT 03/01-2016 **

Will start to sell in small lots next Week if sale of complete farm dosent succeed with potential buyer. Complete farm is still up for sale to highest bidder.
If complete farm is bought total sale includes:


48 pcs Bitmain S5
35 pcs Spondoolies SP20e
23 pcs (2980W - IBM BladeCenter H (7989, 8852)
25 pcs Breakout Boards
340 pcs extra long PCIe power cables (4 for each miner).

Minimum price for everything is 29.000,-$

** EDIT 03/01-2016**


Following miners are reserved in case of no sales of complete farm:

Gornidah = 10 pcs S5 + PSU + Breakout boards and 40 Cables.
urheilija = 3-4 pcs S5
supersonic = 20 pcs S5

Anonymous = 15 pcs SP20

http://i67.tinypic.com/2iide0w.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/bhrm1.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2iql2ly.jpg




 


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: EnJoyThis on December 25, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
What is the monthly hosting fee for the full farm?


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on December 26, 2015, 09:28:45 AM
I pay 62€ pr KW but i have total 152KW for my complete farm, so more miners than up for sale here.
Each Antminer S5 uses 600Watt and each SP20E use 900Watt.
So these miners is around 61.5KW. Times 62€ = 3850,-€ = 4.250,- $
This price is a special price I got due to the 152KW.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: larry12 on December 26, 2015, 02:33:05 PM
If the miners are shipped from Iceland the buyer will pay import taxes. They are not a part of European Union. I checked this before a few months when i was trying to buy KnC Neptune.  ;)


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on December 26, 2015, 02:47:46 PM
Thanks for info, but miners are shipped to me first in Denmark before they are distributed.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Sweminer777 on December 26, 2015, 04:58:11 PM
you have them in denmark ?


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on December 26, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
No, they will be packed down and shipped to me in Denmark when I tell them to do it. It will take less than a week since I use my own TNT account.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: andresrp on December 28, 2015, 04:21:58 AM
Whats that web interface you are using to monitor?


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on December 28, 2015, 09:38:48 PM
I use Awesome Miner Pro as monitor software.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on January 02, 2016, 02:55:54 PM
Split sales starts next week if complete sales dosent go through.
many miners is already reserved, so please send your reservations in case split sales starts.



Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: allinvain on January 03, 2016, 03:56:11 AM
Hmm, your stuff is way too expensive. For 23K we can get the same hashing power from Bitmain.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on January 03, 2016, 08:39:34 AM
Would love to see your calculation Allinvain to make this bold comment.
Bitmain prices of today:

1 x S7 = 1.225,67 USD a pcs. and you need minimum 23.5 pcs to get to 110TH = 28.803,- USD from Bitmain.
Then you have to add 2000,- $ shipping + 17% EU TAX. That will give a total price of delivered in EU of 35.000,-$

I rest my case if you show me that you are able to get 110TH power for 23.000,-$ from Bitmain delivered in EU, because if so, I buy 110TH ASAP from them.
If not, please stop putting this kind of comments in my post. Thank you !


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: allinvain on January 03, 2016, 09:35:11 AM
Would love to see your calculation Allinvain to make this bold comment.
Bitmain prices of today:

1 x S7 = 1.225,67 USD a pcs. and you need minimum 23.5 pcs to get to 110TH = 28.803,- USD from Bitmain.
Then you have to add 2000,- $ shipping + 17% EU TAX. That will give a total price of delivered in EU of 35.000,-$

I rest my case if you show me that you are able to get 110TH power for 23.000,-$ from Bitmain delivered in EU, because if so, I buy 110TH ASAP from them.
If not, please stop putting this kind of comments in my post. Thank you !


I was using the Batch 9 price which is $1032. For 110 TH you'd need 24 of these. 24 x 1032 = $24768 + shipping + import. In my case import fees are 5%. I suppose if you're in the EU then even batch 9 is more expensive.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on January 03, 2016, 12:20:32 PM
It is, so price would be around 32-35.000 $ delivered in EU.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: charles2k on January 03, 2016, 02:07:45 PM
But S7 batch 9 price is much lower. And Fedex shipping costs to EU are not 2000USD, but only 645USD.
And because much better efficiency than S5/SP20, there is no need so many watts in PSUs.

Larger investors in EU are mostly VAT registered, so they have no problem with VAT.


Would love to see your calculation Allinvain to make this bold comment.
Bitmain prices of today:

1 x S7 = 1.225,67 USD a pcs. and you need minimum 23.5 pcs to get to 110TH = 28.803,- USD from Bitmain.
Then you have to add 2000,- $ shipping + 17% EU TAX. That will give a total price of delivered in EU of 35.000,-$

I rest my case if you show me that you are able to get 110TH power for 23.000,-$ from Bitmain delivered in EU, because if so, I buy 110TH ASAP from them.
If not, please stop putting this kind of comments in my post. Thank you !



Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on January 03, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
Are you interested in buying or just make statements !
Batch 9 is starting to ship out the 20 Jan, so if you are lucky you get them the 1th Feb.
Still you need Vat and Import tax if going to EU, so no matter how you turn it you will end up spending much more on the S7 and a miner much less reliable than the S5 and SP20.
But hey, feel free to buy S7, I will not prevent you for doing so.



Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Matias on January 03, 2016, 08:43:51 PM
sorry to post a little off topic, but to my understanding there is no import tax for computers in EU. Of course you need to pay VAT, but no import tax or duty am I wrong?


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: allinvain on January 03, 2016, 08:59:18 PM
Are you interested in buying or just make statements !
Batch 9 is starting to ship out the 20 Jan, so if you are lucky you get them the 1th Feb.
Still you need Vat and Import tax if going to EU, so no matter how you turn it you will end up spending much more on the S7 and a miner much less reliable than the S5 and SP20.
But hey, feel free to buy S7, I will not prevent you for doing so.



Not to thread crap, but I just want to clarify one thing, the S7s are likely just as reliable as the S5. In fact S5s are NOT reliable at all. They are prone to random lock ups - I should know I have a bunch. The SP20s on the other hand are rock solid. The S7s use pretty much the same controller as the S5s and thus are likely to have the same issues.

Anyways, good luck with your sale! :)


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on January 03, 2016, 09:05:13 PM
If you are placed within EU you have to pay tax/vat of 17% if you are a private buyer. In some nordic contries even higher, i think 25%.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Xircom on January 03, 2016, 09:07:36 PM
Are you interested in buying or just make statements !
Batch 9 is starting to ship out the 20 Jan, so if you are lucky you get them the 1th Feb.
Still you need Vat and Import tax if going to EU, so no matter how you turn it you will end up spending much more on the S7 and a miner much less reliable than the S5 and SP20.
But hey, feel free to buy S7, I will not prevent you for doing so.



Not to thread crap, but I just want to clarify one thing, the S7s are likely just as reliable as the S5. In fact S5s are NOT reliable at all. They are prone to random lock ups - I should know I have a bunch. The SP20s on the other hand are rock solid. The S7s use pretty much the same controller as the S5s and thus are likely to have the same issues.

Anyways, good luck with your sale! :)

You are right that Bitmain miners demands much more survailance than the Spondoolies. SP20's are pure set and forget miners.


Title: Re: [WTS][EU] farm for sale S5 / SP20e no import tax.
Post by: Matias on January 03, 2016, 09:33:50 PM
If you are placed within EU you have to pay tax/vat of 17% if you are a private buyer. In some nordic contries even higher, i think 25%.

You are talking about VAT. One has to pay VAT if you buy things outside EU and import it to EU.
. It is different in different EU states. You are right that VAT can be e.g. 25% ( e.g. in Denmark and Sweden) or at the lowest 17% (Luxembourg). But to be precise, there is no Import duty or import Tax for computer hardware in EU.

In some goods (e.g. clothes) you have to pay both Import tax and VAT.

Sorry a bit off topic, but I'm a bit neurotic in tax things and want to pe precise.

But you are right in that if individual buyer buys this hardware from you he doesn't need to pay Vat (17-25%), but if he buys it outside EU he has to pay.