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Title: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: simplecoin on June 07, 2011, 04:48:29 PM
Ok, I've run the numbers.... Those that have stayed with the pool should fair better than those that have come and gone.


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: sirky on June 07, 2011, 05:09:45 PM
I feel pretty strongly that you shouldn't change scoring in the middle of a round when people who joined thought it was proportional.

However, I also feel that score based (or whatever other method) is better.

I would personally rather you hold off until block 2 to implement it though, unless we really see the hashrate tank.

But I would support you either way.


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: simplecoin on June 07, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
I agree, I just want to know what the users want :)


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: kiwiasian on June 07, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
Does this "cheat-proof" scoring prevent my earnings from decreasing?


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: simplecoin on June 07, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
I'm not sure it's even possible to poolhop on your pool currently. For poolhopping you need to know when a new block starts, and the only stat you provide is the hash rate, e.g. not enough :)

It's possible, but it is much tougher to gauge. The cheat-proof method also really rewards those who evenly participate in the whole round.

Does this "cheat-proof" scoring prevent my earnings from decreasing?

I'm working out the new estimation now. That said, your earnings don't actually decrease now, they are based on your participation % in the round. Until a block is found your earnings are 0.

Your ultimate amount now is roughly "(your valid shares/totalroundshares)*50"


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: kiwiasian on June 07, 2011, 06:39:15 PM
Since you've gotten the earnings calculations sorted out, I will rejoin your pool once you find your first block. That way I can get "fresh" statistics in a new round.


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: LegitBit on June 07, 2011, 06:43:41 PM
Wait, always wait.

We will get that elusive bastard soon.


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: Sukrim on June 07, 2011, 06:46:41 PM
I'm not sure it's even possible to poolhop on your pool currently. For poolhopping you need to know when a new block starts, and the only stat you provide is the hash rate, e.g. not enough :)
I bet he has implemented long polling... from then on it's trivial! ;)


Title: Re: [Poll] Simplecoin.us throw the switch on cheat-proof scoring now or wait
Post by: simplecoin on June 07, 2011, 06:53:17 PM
I'm not sure it's even possible to poolhop on your pool currently. For poolhopping you need to know when a new block starts, and the only stat you provide is the hash rate, e.g. not enough :)
I bet he has implemented long polling... from then on it's trivial! ;)

^^  :(

yep. this is why I want to switch to the new scoring method on the new round. Even if estimates are off still, I will make the switch to reward our loyal users.