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Title: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 02:21:52 PM
I asked for a withdrawal 4 days ago.  (1 BTC)   ( Earlier I rejected all the bullshit bonus.)
I posted about it 3 times in betcoin.tm topic.   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283187.msg13371342#msg13371342 )
Yesterday betcoin.tm claimed in there topic that there was no pending withdrawal in their queue.
I checked my account and saw that my withdrawal was cancelled, so i tried to make another one, but the system did not work, when i clicked on the withdrawal button nothing happened.
I posted this new issue in betcoin.tm topic that the withdrawals did not work.   (no answer)
Some hour later i checked my account again and my balance was cleared to 0. (from 2.88 BTC)
I posted this 3.rd issue in their topic.  (no answer)
Later i contacted them via live chat but the agent could not say anything, just forwarding my issue. ( nothing happened)
Today i contacted them via online form.   (no answer)

I suggest you not to play at betcoin.tm.      They are from Greece.   They use the same odds provider as bet8.gr .

Cleared account balance:
https://i.imgur.com/vlagCGD.png

Bet list:
https://i.imgur.com/YWj8iAS.png

Transaction history:  (Earlier i cound not find it, and asked 3 times in betcoin.tm topic where the transaction list is, but i got no answer)
https://i.imgur.com/HmyGFGx.png

This is not the first time i say not to play at a bookmaker.  

   
bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0    
They of course disappeared some months later as i predicted.

Betvip also disappeared ,also predicted    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11627924#msg11627924

My next prediction is that betcoin.tm will be the next.

I saw a lot of post that their withdrawals went through .  But all those withdrawals are in the joke category: 0.0X   or 0.1X  BTC  

i will attach the live chat conversation too.

Edit: 

they confiscated all my winnings and deposit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1309070.msg13400263#msg13400263 


i will share all my 11 bets here, so you can decide ...


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: fox19891989 on December 30, 2015, 02:30:51 PM
sorry to hear that, it is said that betcoin.tm only pays a few money, they don't pay big money.

about betvip, it is said that cloudbet acquired betvip, but last time i check the link, it redirects to a forum, which is weird.

you should bet on reliable bookies, like nitrogen, cloudbet, betcoin, directbet and so forth, never try big money on new sites or notorious sites.

btw, betcoint.tm is not from greece, from Hongkong i heard, and they use the other sportsbook's service so you find those 2 sites have same odds


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: edmundduke on December 30, 2015, 02:36:26 PM
I asked for a withdrawal 4 days ago.  (1 BTC)   ( Earlier I rejected all the bullshit bonus.)
I posted about it 3 times in betcoin.tm topic.   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283187.msg13371342#msg13371342 )
Yesterday betcoin.tm claimed in there topic that there was no pending withdrawal in their queue.
I checked my account and saw that my withdrawal was cancelled, so i tried to make another one, but the system did not work, when i clicked on the withdrawal button nothing happened.
I posted this new issue in betcoin.tm topic that the withdrawals did not work.   (no answer)
Some hour later i checked my account again and my balance was cleared to 0. (from 2.88 BTC)
I posted this 3.rd issue in their topic.  (no answer)
Later i contacted them via live chat but the agent could not say anything, just forwarding my issue. ( nothing happened)
Today i contacted them via online form.   (no answer)

I suggest you not to play at betcoin.tm.      They are from Greece.   They use the same odds provider as bet8.gr .

Cleared account balance:
https://i.imgur.com/vlagCGD.png

Bet list:
https://i.imgur.com/YWj8iAS.png

Transaction history:  (Earlier i cound not find it, and asked 3 times in betcoin.tm topic where the transaction list is, but i got no answer)
https://i.imgur.com/HmyGFGx.png

This is not the first time i say not to play at a bookmaker.  

   
bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0    
They of course disappeared some months later as i predicted.

Betvip also disappeared ,also predicted    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11627924#msg11627924

My next prediction is that betcoin.tm will be the next.

I saw a lot of post that their withdrawals went through .  But all those withdrawals are in the joke category: 0.0X   or 0.1X  BTC  

i will attach the live chat conversation too.


Will be interesting to see how this all works out in the end and if they do pay you or not. They have become a lot more active lately with their promotions on the forums and have been paying out smaller amounts (including the freerolls for poker).
Waiting for a replay from betcoin, see what he has to say.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: DeathAngel on December 30, 2015, 02:39:08 PM
Well they better pay you or whatever respect they have in the bitcoin gambling community will be gone.
Lots of big fat negative trust will destroy them. Surely they won't risk their reputation over 2.88 bitcoin?

I wish you good luck OP.

Edit - You might want to post this in the scam accusation sub forum too.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: dodgecharger on December 30, 2015, 02:42:13 PM
Sad to hear that! Hopefully Betcoin.tm will give us a good explanation if he don't want to lose his reputation and customers.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Republikcoin.com on December 30, 2015, 02:42:53 PM
Some people say the same thing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306412.0   and already completed
maybe this way you will get a response as you say not get a response from the service
thanks for this info so we know the place a bet in an honest site


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: knightkon on December 30, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
I have played there a few times and I received all my small withdraw amounts, but when I tried to make a 1.1 withdraw, they made it disappear like a doughnut around a fat man!!  They never responded to any of my complaints or concerns about it and then they locked my account 2 weeks later.  These people are scamming assholes.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Gianluca95 on December 30, 2015, 02:50:21 PM
Some people say the same thing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306412.0   and already completed
maybe this way you will get a response as you say not get a response from the service
thanks for this info so we know the place a bet in an honest site

Please, don't create any alarmism -.-''

I think that he is in holiday and once he will return he will fix all (this are particular day as I said in the official thread).

I also have to receive my upfront payment for signature campaign (3 week in advice) but I don't believe that betcoin.tm could scam so soon.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Lutpin on December 30, 2015, 02:51:17 PM
Yet another?

PS: You should move it to Scam Accusation as the other linked thread was posted in,
it fits there better than here.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Ceizer54 on December 30, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
Well i am not saying this in support of betcoin.tm..I never deposited any bitcoins on betcoin.tm but to tell everyone the truth and i am not going to lie,they Paid me everytime- 0.01 jdc for participating in signature compaign,0.05 jdc for refferal compaign and yesterday some btc too for managing thier twitter compaign and i withdrawn it and all went very well..Yes,i know this is low amount and i am not supporting anyone here..i am just telling what's true in my case..I seriously hope man that they pay you your bitcoins and reply to this thread :)


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Dannie on December 30, 2015, 02:55:50 PM
Well i am not saying this in support of betcoin.tm..I never deposited any bitcoins on betcoin.tm but to tell everyone the truth and i am not going to lie,they Paid me everytime- 0.01 jdc for participating in signature compaign,0.05 jdc for refferal compaign and yesterday some btc too for managing thier twitter compaign and i withdrawn it and all went very well..Yes,i know this is low amount and i am not supporting anyone here..i am just telling what's true in my case..I seriously hope man that they pay you your bitcoins and reply to this thread :)

Hmm so it is possible that the site is in the selective scamming phrase and only process small withdrawals and ignore the big ones. OP, thanks for the heads up, and I hope you will receive your bitcoin in the end. Good luck.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: fox19891989 on December 30, 2015, 03:00:22 PM
actually i saw some scam accusation threads here, and one guy was scammed 1000btc from there, which is amazing. no wonder they have 0.1 btc freeroll everyday and added sportsbook to lure more people, this world is filled with evil.

dude you should not trust the sites which are not PROVEN-RELIABLE one. learn something from this scam issue, and you were scammed  by them 2 times ago, just playing on reliable ones is the most important thing in gambling


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: erikalui on December 30, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
I was paid four times by betcoin.tm but that was in the initial days. I am to owed about 0.0029 BTC which they gave me as a bonus and yesterday the admin contacted me saying he can withdraw my balance manually and pay me but since then I've not received any reply. I guess you should wait for sometime as I dont think they'll scam so soon.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: znickelbackz on December 30, 2015, 03:12:36 PM
here is not quite the best place for reporting scam site


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
Re: Confiscation of bet amounts

Dear Customer: your balance was confiscated due to your sports betting. The bets you placed were not mutually exclusive, and our sportsbook provider notified us. This is considered illicit behavior and the results for behaviors that break our terms and conditions are always confiscation of deposits and winnings. If you want to contest this finding, please notify me so that I can ask the sportsbook provider to give me full details and analysis of your bets. Thank you. 


I will share here all my bets.    i will share all other bookmakers odds on the same markets too.  You will be able to decide that the odds was correct .




Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 03:21:05 PM
https://www.betcoin.tm/terms-conditions

perhaps they want to apply me this one   5.15. ABUSE OF BONUS PROGRAMS 

but i never got any bonus .


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: santa_marta on December 30, 2015, 03:22:27 PM
https://www.betcoin.tm/terms-conditions

perhaps they want to apply me this one   5.15. ABUSE OF BONUS PROGRAMS  

but i never got any bonus .
according to the message you posted here something was wrong with your sports bets. Post them here so we can see and judge for ourselves. Dont think it has anything to do with any bonus program.
That (betting system abuse) also might be why you have problems with other bookies, I am not accusing you of anything just suggesting what might be the reason here.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Ceizer54 on December 30, 2015, 03:27:17 PM
I have one question to the OP..i saw the other thread here and you wrote there many times that you were not paid and your withdraw's are pending too and i see everytime "betcoin.tm" asked for your username and you didn't replied your username even once and just keep saying again and again the some thing..can i know why? If you are completely correct in your place and did not misuse the system (and i seriously hope you didn't ) then why you didn't let them know your username and keeps saying check the pending list..care to explain?


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: poplolnman on December 30, 2015, 03:27:34 PM
https://www.betcoin.tm/terms-conditions

perhaps they want to apply me this one   5.15. ABUSE OF BONUS PROGRAMS  

but i never got any bonus .
according to the message you posted here something was wrong with your sports bets. Post them here so we can see and judge for ourselves. Dont think it has anything to do with any bonus program.

If he really have a problem with the sports bets, he should at least get some explanation from their support or bitcoin.tm bctalk account as betcoin.tm lately looks online and he didn't get any reply from them which it's make suspicious why they not just reply to say "hi" or "I'm sorry".


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Everybitbit on December 30, 2015, 03:29:40 PM
Yea from what i see this site is shilled with their activities. From the first OP had alot thing to advertise and do alot of campaign but now seems like theres alot campaign that never paid.
Be ware guys this site has some problem. I never join any campaign of them but i feel its had some problem with payment and campaign


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 03:32:52 PM
last bet / (from 11)

28 December 2015 19:04    Basketball: SWE Ligan    Sundsvall Dragons vs. Sodertelje Kings (73:82)    Over/Under (1st Quarter): over 39.5    1.88    Win

From my database:    Over/Under (1st Quarter): over 39.5    

olimp           1,92   1,81   2015-12-28 11:09:37.000
betcointm   1,91   1,8   2015-12-28 11:09:58.000
olimp           1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 11:45:30.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 11:45:53.000
olimp           1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 12:48:56.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 12:51:20.000
olimp        1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 13:11:21.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 13:17:18.000
olimp           1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 13:50:49.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 13:51:17.000
olimp           1,89   1,84   2015-12-28 15:18:33.000
betcointm   1,88   1,82   2015-12-28 15:18:59.000
unibet   1,86   1,84   2015-12-28 15:19:07.000
olimp           1,89   1,84   2015-12-28 16:27:22.000
betcointm   1,88   1,82   2015-12-28 16:27:50.000
unibet   1,86   1,84   2015-12-28 16:28:08.000

http://www.oddsportal.com/basketball/sweden/ligan/sundsvall-sodertalje-YwvYoHBL/#over-under;8

You can see that the odds is correct .


Edit :

https://i.imgur.com/mmylAoq.png


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: santa_marta on December 30, 2015, 03:33:36 PM
https://www.betcoin.tm/terms-conditions

perhaps they want to apply me this one   5.15. ABUSE OF BONUS PROGRAMS  

but i never got any bonus .
according to the message you posted here something was wrong with your sports bets. Post them here so we can see and judge for ourselves. Dont think it has anything to do with any bonus program.

If he really have a problem with the sports bets, he should at least get some explanation from their support or bitcoin.tm bctalk account as betcoin.tm lately looks online and he didn't get any reply from them which it's make suspicious why they not just reply to say "hi" or "I'm sorry".

betcointm seems to be offline during the holidays. i am waiting for him as well since I too have an issue, he was online yesterday for a while but not since then, I think he will get a proper explanation when he gets online.
However  I think he(sbrzol) already knows whats wrong, the winrate on his bets is kinda odd (very very high), so I would assume he abused a system somehow (not accusing just assuming). If not and he can prove it I am sure he will get paid. Betcoin.tm has given a lot of bitcoins out lately and dont think they will want to get bad rep because of 2,5 coins.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: santa_marta on December 30, 2015, 03:38:37 PM
last bet / (from 11)

28 December 2015 19:04    Basketball: SWE Ligan    Sundsvall Dragons vs. Sodertelje Kings (73:82)    Over/Under (1st Quarter): over 39.5    1.88    Win

From my database:    Over/Under (1st Quarter): over 39.5    

olimp           1,92   1,81   2015-12-28 11:09:37.000
betcointm   1,91   1,8   2015-12-28 11:09:58.000
olimp           1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 11:45:30.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 11:45:53.000
olimp           1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 12:48:56.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 12:51:20.000
olimp        1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 13:11:21.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 13:17:18.000
olimp           1,9   1,83   2015-12-28 13:50:49.000
betcointm   1,89   1,81   2015-12-28 13:51:17.000
olimp           1,89   1,84   2015-12-28 15:18:33.000
betcointm   1,88   1,82   2015-12-28 15:18:59.000
unibet   1,86   1,84   2015-12-28 15:19:07.000
olimp           1,89   1,84   2015-12-28 16:27:22.000
betcointm   1,88   1,82   2015-12-28 16:27:50.000
unibet   1,86   1,84   2015-12-28 16:28:08.000

http://www.oddsportal.com/basketball/sweden/ligan/sundsvall-sodertalje-YwvYoHBL/#over-under;8

You can see that the odds is correct .


 I dont think it has anything to do with odds, its rather about events not being mutually exclusive. I am not expert on this but maybe post some of your bets so we can see what you bet on (if that doesnt bother you)Post your bets like this maybe:

https://i.imgur.com/K6j3Me3.png


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 03:44:28 PM
2/11 bet


27 December 2015 18:00    Basketball: SVK Extraliga    MBK Rieker Komarno vs. BK Inter Bratislava (76:89)    Asian Over/Under: over 163.5    2.52    Win

From my database:  Over/Under: over 163.5    
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-23 16:43:36.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 11:42:38.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 13:07:29.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 13:07:31.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-23 13:53:07.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 13:56:44.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 13:56:45.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-23 14:53:59.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 14:55:38.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 14:55:39.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 15:42:27.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 15:42:28.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-23 15:44:50.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 16:09:51.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 16:09:52.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-23 16:17:26.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 11:45:05.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 16:41:12.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 16:41:14.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 19:18:44.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 19:18:45.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-23 19:20:34.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-23 19:32:58.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-23 19:32:59.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-23 19:34:43.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 00:04:37.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 00:04:38.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 00:05:40.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 00:42:31.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 00:42:32.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 00:43:45.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 11:45:06.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 01:12:25.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 01:12:26.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 01:13:24.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 01:35:27.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 01:39:52.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 01:39:52.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 01:49:58.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 01:49:58.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 02:03:55.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 02:03:55.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 02:16:58.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 02:16:58.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 02:20:24.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 10:38:11.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 10:38:11.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 10:38:47.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 11:20:17.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 11:20:18.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 11:20:51.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 13:29:29.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 13:29:29.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 14:33:47.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 14:33:47.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 14:34:48.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 14:51:45.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 14:51:45.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 14:52:45.000
winmasters   1,54   2,32   2015-12-27 00:33:00.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 15:48:19.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 15:48:20.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 15:49:17.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 16:34:27.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 16:34:27.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 16:35:23.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 16:51:50.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 16:51:51.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 16:53:04.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 18:18:28.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 19:47:17.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-24 22:26:28.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 22:26:51.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 22:26:51.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-24 22:28:01.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-24 23:19:03.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-24 23:19:28.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-24 23:19:29.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 10:41:37.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 10:42:04.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 10:42:04.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 10:43:46.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 11:03:27.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 11:03:50.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 11:03:51.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 11:05:32.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 11:48:26.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 11:48:55.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 11:48:55.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 11:50:22.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 11:57:05.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 11:57:30.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 11:57:31.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 12:25:49.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 12:26:16.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 12:26:17.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 12:27:58.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 13:31:23.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 13:31:45.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 13:31:46.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 14:21:12.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 14:21:46.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 14:21:47.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 14:23:38.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 16:33:15.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 16:33:45.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 16:33:46.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 16:36:04.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 16:37:44.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 16:45:51.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 16:48:08.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 16:48:39.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 16:48:39.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 16:50:24.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 17:12:52.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 17:13:23.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 17:13:24.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 17:15:03.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 17:52:43.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 17:53:12.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 17:53:12.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 17:54:57.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 18:47:04.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 18:49:34.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 18:50:01.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 18:50:02.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 19:00:20.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 19:01:09.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 19:01:11.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 19:03:55.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 19:17:18.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 19:18:16.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 19:18:18.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 19:21:13.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 19:29:32.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 19:30:34.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 19:30:35.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 19:33:20.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 19:52:33.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 19:53:30.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 19:53:31.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 19:56:14.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 20:33:39.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 20:34:40.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 20:34:42.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 20:37:28.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 21:27:33.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 21:28:16.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 21:28:17.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 21:30:16.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 22:00:37.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 22:01:17.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 22:01:18.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 22:03:27.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-25 22:52:21.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-25 22:53:02.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-25 22:53:03.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-25 22:55:19.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 00:20:31.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 00:21:11.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 00:21:12.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 00:23:24.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 00:39:24.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 00:40:08.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 00:40:09.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 00:42:24.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 01:01:27.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 01:02:13.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 01:02:14.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 01:04:34.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 10:35:15.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 10:35:50.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 10:35:51.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 10:37:22.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 10:38:02.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 10:38:04.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 10:40:32.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 10:58:22.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 10:59:02.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 10:59:03.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 11:01:40.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 11:25:34.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 11:26:15.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 11:26:16.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 11:28:41.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 11:38:58.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 11:59:17.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 12:00:13.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 12:00:15.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 12:03:32.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 12:16:10.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 12:17:05.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 12:17:07.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 13:26:35.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 13:27:29.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 13:27:31.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 13:30:59.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 14:11:56.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 14:12:48.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 14:12:50.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 14:16:26.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 14:26:01.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 14:26:57.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 14:26:59.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 14:30:45.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 16:03:41.000
olimp   1   1,47   2015-12-26 16:08:12.000
betcointm   2,5   1   2015-12-26 16:08:40.000
betcointm   1   1,43   2015-12-26 16:08:41.000
winmasters   2,58   1,44   2015-12-26 16:08:48.000
betcointm   1,54   1   2015-12-26 16:45:03.000
betcointm   1   2,21   2015-12-26 16:45:06.000
winmasters   1,56   2,28   2015-12-26 16:47:22.000
winmasters   1,56   2,28   2015-12-26 17:46:16.000
betcointm   1,54   1   2015-12-26 17:47:54.000
betcointm   1   2,21   2015-12-26 17:47:55.000
betcointm   1,54   1   2015-12-26 18:01:53.000
betcointm   1   2,21   2015-12-26 18:01:55.000
winmasters   1,56   2,28   2015-12-26 18:04:51.000
betcointm   1,54   1   2015-12-26 18:21:51.000
betcointm   1   2,21   2015-12-26 18:21:53.000
winmasters   1,56   2,28   2015-12-26 18:24:57.000
betcointm   1,52   1   2015-12-27 00:29:52.000
betcointm   1   2,25   2015-12-27 00:29:54.000
betcointm   1,52   1   2015-12-27 00:51:25.000
betcointm   1   2,25   2015-12-27 00:51:26.000
winmasters   1,54   2,32   2015-12-27 00:54:41.000
betcointm   1,52   1   2015-12-27 01:13:37.000
betcointm   1   2,25   2015-12-27 01:13:38.000
winmasters   1,54   2,32   2015-12-27 01:16:44.000
betcointm   1,52   1   2015-12-27 10:41:48.000
betcointm   1   2,25   2015-12-27 10:41:50.000
winmasters   1,54   2,32   2015-12-27 10:44:38.000
betcointm   1,52   1   2015-12-27 11:19:35.000
betcointm   1   2,25   2015-12-27 11:19:36.000
winmasters   1,54   2,32   2015-12-27 11:22:29.000
betcointm   1,52   1   2015-12-27 11:35:55.000
betcointm   1   2,25   2015-12-27 11:35:57.000
winmasters   1,54   2,32   2015-12-27 11:38:56.000
betcointm   1,52   1   2015-12-27 11:59:54.000
betcointm   1   2,25   2015-12-27 11:59:56.000
winmasters   1,54   2,32   2015-12-27 12:04:01.000
betcointm   1,51   1   2015-12-27 13:23:56.000
betcointm   1   2,28   2015-12-27 13:23:57.000
winmasters   1,53   2,34   2015-12-27 13:26:34.000
betcointm   1,51   1   2015-12-27 15:33:02.000
betcointm   1   2,28   2015-12-27 15:33:04.000
winmasters   1,53   2,34   2015-12-27 15:35:56.000
betcointm   1,51   1   2015-12-27 16:51:44.000
betcointm   1   2,28   2015-12-27 16:51:45.000
winmasters   1,53   2,34   2015-12-27 16:54:02.000
betcointm   1,51   1   2015-12-27 17:23:26.000
betcointm   1   2,28   2015-12-27 17:23:27.000
winmasters   1,53   2,34   2015-12-27 17:25:21.000

so you can see that winmasters and olimp has the same odds like betcoin.tm

http://www.flashscore.com/match/figbcTsO/#odds-comparison;over-under;ft-including-ot

here you can see that the line started at 158  at pinnacle sports (1.93 - 1.97) so the 2.52 is correct for the 163.5 line at that time , but later it moved

http://www.oddsportal.com/basketball/slovakia/extraliga/mbk-komarno-inter-bratislava-figbcTsO/#over-under;1

so my bet and my odds was good again.

https://i.imgur.com/B15ITTh.png


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: hawk1987 on December 30, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
wtf this site scam or what i had 0.056 in my a/c but something error in my a/c so i contact online support and chat support said just hold for memnet now my a/c is 0.000000000 :((((( ??? ???


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: enhu on December 30, 2015, 03:47:40 PM
If the withdrawal was cancelled then someone from betcoin.tm did it, else it should appear like there is a pending transaction. I could be wrong but i see it must be because their system is faulty?
I believe they're still new and beta tester didn't see this errors.




Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: kotwica666 on December 30, 2015, 03:56:28 PM
Some people say the same thing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306412.0   and already completed
maybe this way you will get a response as you say not get a response from the service
thanks for this info so we know the place a bet in an honest site

Please, don't create any alarmism -.-''

I think that he is in holiday and once he will return he will fix all (this are particular day as I said in the official thread).

I also have to receive my upfront payment for signature campaign (3 week in advice) but I don't believe that betcoin.tm could scam so soon.

Sorry Gianluca95, but this words "I don't believe that betcoin.tm could scam so soon." doesn't sound good..

Hopefully everything will be ok, but if someone is starting campaign in time like this, should be achievable..


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
3/11

Same match:
27 December 2015 18:00    Basketball: SVK Extraliga    MBK Rieker Komarno vs. BK Inter Bratislava (76:89)    Asian Over/Under: over 159.5    2.00    Win

1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-23 16:43:36.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 11:42:38.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 13:07:29.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 13:07:31.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-23 13:53:07.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 13:56:44.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 13:56:45.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-23 14:53:59.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 14:55:38.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 14:55:39.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 15:42:27.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 15:42:28.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-23 15:44:50.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 16:09:51.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 16:09:52.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-23 16:17:26.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 11:45:05.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 16:41:12.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 16:41:14.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 19:18:44.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 19:18:45.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-23 19:20:34.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-23 19:32:58.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-23 19:32:59.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-23 19:34:43.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 00:04:37.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 00:04:38.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 00:05:40.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 00:42:31.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 00:42:32.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 00:43:45.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 11:45:06.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 01:12:25.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 01:12:26.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 01:13:24.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 01:35:27.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 01:39:52.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 01:39:52.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 01:49:58.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 01:49:58.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 02:03:55.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 02:03:55.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 02:16:58.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 02:16:58.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 02:20:24.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 10:38:11.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 10:38:11.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 10:38:47.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 11:20:17.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 11:20:18.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 11:20:51.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 13:29:29.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 13:29:29.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 14:33:47.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 14:33:47.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 14:34:48.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 14:51:45.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 14:51:45.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 14:52:45.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 15:48:19.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 15:48:20.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 15:49:17.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 16:34:27.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 16:34:27.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 16:35:23.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 16:51:50.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 16:51:51.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 16:53:04.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 18:18:28.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 19:47:17.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-24 22:26:28.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 22:26:51.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 22:26:51.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-24 22:28:01.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-24 23:19:03.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-24 23:19:28.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-24 23:19:29.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 10:41:37.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 10:42:04.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 10:42:04.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 10:43:46.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 11:03:27.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 11:03:50.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 11:03:51.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 11:05:32.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 11:48:26.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 11:48:55.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 11:48:55.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 11:50:22.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 11:57:05.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 11:57:30.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 11:57:31.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 12:25:49.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 12:26:16.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 12:26:17.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 12:27:58.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 13:31:23.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 13:31:45.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 13:31:46.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 14:21:12.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 14:21:46.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 14:21:47.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 14:23:38.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 16:33:15.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 16:33:45.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 16:33:46.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 16:36:04.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 16:37:44.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 16:45:51.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 16:48:08.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 16:48:39.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 16:48:39.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 16:50:24.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 17:12:52.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 17:13:23.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 17:13:24.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 17:15:03.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 17:52:43.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 17:53:12.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 17:53:12.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 17:54:57.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 18:47:04.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 18:49:34.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 18:50:01.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 18:50:02.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 19:00:20.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 19:01:09.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 19:01:11.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 19:03:55.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 19:17:18.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 19:18:16.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 19:18:18.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 19:21:13.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 19:29:32.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 19:30:34.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 19:30:35.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 19:33:20.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 19:52:33.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 19:53:30.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 19:53:31.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 19:56:14.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 20:33:39.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 20:34:40.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 20:34:42.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 20:37:28.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 21:27:33.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 21:28:16.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 21:28:17.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 21:30:16.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 22:00:37.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 22:01:17.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 22:01:18.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 22:03:27.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-25 22:52:21.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-25 22:53:02.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-25 22:53:03.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-25 22:55:19.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 00:20:31.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 00:21:11.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 00:21:12.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 00:23:24.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 00:39:24.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 00:40:08.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 00:40:09.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 00:42:24.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 01:01:27.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 01:02:13.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 01:02:14.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 01:04:34.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 10:35:15.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 10:35:50.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 10:35:51.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 10:37:22.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 10:38:02.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 10:38:04.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 10:40:32.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 10:58:22.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 10:59:02.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 10:59:03.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 11:01:40.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 11:25:34.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 11:26:15.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 11:26:16.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 11:28:41.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 11:38:58.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 11:59:17.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 12:00:13.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 12:00:15.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 12:03:32.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 12:16:10.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 12:17:05.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 12:17:07.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 13:26:35.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 13:27:29.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 13:27:31.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 13:30:59.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 14:11:56.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 14:12:48.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 14:12:50.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 14:16:26.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 14:26:01.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 14:26:57.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 14:26:59.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 14:30:45.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 16:03:41.000
1832581941   olimp   1   1,72   2015-12-26 16:08:12.000
1832581941   betcointm   2   1   2015-12-26 16:08:40.000
1832581941   betcointm   1   1,66   2015-12-26 16:08:41.000
1832581941   winmasters   2,04   1,69   2015-12-26 16:08:48.000
so there is nothing wrong with this bet too

https://i.imgur.com/enwDiuf.png


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: santa_marta on December 30, 2015, 04:04:58 PM
Ty for posting, now I think know what is wrong with your bets.

In a single match you cannot bet on events like that.

EG.
basketball over 200, then bet again over 197 when odds change then bet again over 202 and so on... this also applies when live betting, I guess those were live bets right ? Those events are not mutually exclusive, I think you can only have one bet open.
At least thats how I think it works.

From the times you bet 16:14:55 and 16:15:14 I guess you just added more bets, which is considered system abuse. Thats why your bets were confiscated and I dont think you will have them returned. This is the same with all bookies not betcoin.tm only.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 04:08:06 PM
Ty for posting, now I think know what is wrong with your bets.

In a single match you cannot bet on events like that.

EG.
basketball over 200, then bet again over 197 when odds change then bet again over 202 and so on... this applies when live betting, I guess those were live bets right ? Those events are not mutually exclusive, I think you can only have one bet open.
At least thats how I think it works.

No live bets.    If that was the problem they should have voided one of my bets and not steal all my winnings and deposits.


Do you ever heard about pinnacle sports?  
They offer 6 handicaps and totals on all markets and you can place as much bet as you want on any markets.

So this is how betting works at every major site.  

I did not abuse nothing , this is not forbidden,  i do this on every major sport books and never had any problem with it.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: santa_marta on December 30, 2015, 04:16:44 PM
its just my opinnion, nothing else. Hope you get it sorted out :)


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Bitcoin_Delivery on December 30, 2015, 04:24:06 PM
I asked for a withdrawal 4 days ago.  (1 BTC)   ( Earlier I rejected all the bullshit bonus.)
I posted about it 3 times in betcoin.tm topic.   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283187.msg13371342#msg13371342 )
Yesterday betcoin.tm claimed in there topic that there was no pending withdrawal in their queue.
I checked my account and saw that my withdrawal was cancelled, so i tried to make another one, but the system did not work, when i clicked on the withdrawal button nothing happened.
I posted this new issue in betcoin.tm topic that the withdrawals did not work.   (no answer)
Some hour later i checked my account again and my balance was cleared to 0. (from 2.88 BTC)
I posted this 3.rd issue in their topic.  (no answer)
Later i contacted them via live chat but the agent could not say anything, just forwarding my issue. ( nothing happened)
Today i contacted them via online form.   (no answer)

I suggest you not to play at betcoin.tm.      They are from Greece.   They use the same odds provider as bet8.gr .

Cleared account balance:
https://i.imgur.com/vlagCGD.png

Bet list:
https://i.imgur.com/YWj8iAS.png

Transaction history:  (Earlier i cound not find it, and asked 3 times in betcoin.tm topic where the transaction list is, but i got no answer)
https://i.imgur.com/HmyGFGx.png

This is not the first time i say not to play at a bookmaker.  

   
bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0    
They of course disappeared some months later as i predicted.

Betvip also disappeared ,also predicted    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11627924#msg11627924

My next prediction is that betcoin.tm will be the next.

I saw a lot of post that their withdrawals went through .  But all those withdrawals are in the joke category: 0.0X   or 0.1X  BTC  

i will attach the live chat conversation too.

Edit: 

they confiscated all my winnings and deposit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1309070.msg13400263#msg13400263 


i will share all my 11 bets here, so you can decide ...

Sorry for your experience. i've played only with bonus, but when ended free spin i run away from this site, smells of scam was too strong ;)


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: katerniko1 on December 30, 2015, 04:34:02 PM
well im waiting for betcoin.tm to reply here i dont think that they would go into scam while they just released poker and with all theese giveaways.
but well you might just had a some bug on their system who knows.. i hope you will get this fixed..
regards.
-Katerniko1


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 04:34:11 PM
4/11

25 December 2015 12:35    Basketball: CHN CBA    Bayi Army Rocket vs. Jiangsu Dragons (80:99)    Points Spread: 2(-4.5)    2.60    Win

betcointm   1,4   1   2015-12-24 13:29:29.000
betcointm   1   2,6   2015-12-24 13:29:29.000
betcointm   1,4   1   2015-12-24 14:33:47.000
betcointm   1   2,6   2015-12-24 14:33:47.000
winmasters   1,42   2,68   2015-12-24 14:34:48.000
betcointm   1,4   1   2015-12-24 14:51:45.000
betcointm   1   2,6   2015-12-24 14:51:45.000
winmasters   1,42   2,68   2015-12-24 14:52:45.000
pinnacle sports   1,751   2,18   2015-12-24 15:48:00.000
betcointm   1,4   1   2015-12-24 15:48:19.000
betcointm   1   2,6   2015-12-24 15:48:19.000
pinnacle sports   1,925   1,961   2015-12-24 16:34:07.000
betcointm   1,4   1   2015-12-24 16:34:27.000
betcointm   1   2,6   2015-12-24 16:34:27.000
cloudbet   1,9   1,9   2015-12-24 16:34:35.000
winmasters   1,81   1,89   2015-12-24 16:35:23.000
bethard   1,84   1,87   2015-12-24 16:51:22.000
pinnacle sports   1,925   1,961   2015-12-24 16:51:26.000
betcointm   1,4   1   2015-12-24 16:51:50.000
betcointm   1   2,6   2015-12-24 16:51:51.000
cloudbet   1,89   1,92   2015-12-24 16:52:13.000
winmasters   1,81   1,89   2015-12-24 16:53:04.000
pinnacle sports   1,925   1,961   2015-12-24 17:00:11.000
bethard   1,84   1,87   2015-12-24 18:16:43.000
pinnacle sports   1,925   1,961   2015-12-24 18:16:49.000
winmasters   1,81   1,89   2015-12-24 18:18:28.000
bethard   1,82   1,88   2015-12-24 19:42:41.000
pinnacle sports   1,909   1,97   2015-12-24 19:42:45.000
pinnacle sports   1,909   1,97   2015-12-24 19:44:04.000
pinnacle sports   1,909   1,97   2015-12-24 19:44:12.000
winmasters   1,81   1,89   2015-12-24 19:47:17.000
pinnacle sports   1,909   1,97   2015-12-24 19:58:08.000
bethard   1,82   1,88   2015-12-24 19:59:38.000
1vice   1,87   1,952   2015-12-24 19:59:40.000
pinnacle sports   1,909   1,97   2015-12-24 19:59:47.000
bethard   1,82   1,88   2015-12-24 22:26:27.000
1vice   1,87   1,952   2015-12-24 22:26:31.000
pinnacle sports   1,909   1,97   2015-12-24 22:26:31.000
mayplay   1,84745762711865   1,85470085470086   2015-12-24 22:26:44.000
betsafe   1,85   1,85   2015-12-24 22:26:46.000
cloudbet   1,88   1,92   2015-12-24 22:27:39.000
winmasters   1,81   1,89   2015-12-24 22:28:01.000
bethard   1,82   1,88   2015-12-24 23:19:03.000
1vice   1,87   1,952   2015-12-24 23:19:04.000
pinnacle sports   1,909   1,97   2015-12-24 23:19:06.000
mayplay   1,84745762711865   1,85470085470086   2015-12-24 23:19:10.000
betsafe   1,85   1,85   2015-12-24 23:19:18.000
cloudbet   1,88   1,92   2015-12-24 23:19:45.000
bethard   2,12   1,61   2015-12-25 10:41:32.000
pinnacle sports   2,26   1,671   2015-12-25 10:41:36.000
olimp   2,11   1   2015-12-25 10:41:38.000
olimp   1   1,62   2015-12-25 10:41:38.000
olimp   1   1,62   2015-12-25 10:41:38.000
1vice   2,25   1,667   2015-12-25 10:41:42.000
winmasters   2,1   1,65   2015-12-25 10:43:45.000
bethard   2,14   1,63   2015-12-25 11:03:20.000
1vice   2,25   1,69   2015-12-25 11:03:23.000
pinnacle sports   2,28   1,694   2015-12-25 11:03:26.000
olimp   2,11   1   2015-12-25 11:03:27.000
olimp   1   1,62   2015-12-25 11:03:27.000
olimp   1   1,62   2015-12-25 11:03:27.000
winmasters   2,1   1,65   2015-12-25 11:05:32.000
1vice   2,3   1,667   2015-12-25 11:48:23.000
pinnacle sports   2,29   1,684   2015-12-25 11:20:11.000
bethard   2,18   1,61   2015-12-25 11:48:21.000
olimp   2,11   1   2015-12-25 11:48:27.000
olimp   1   1,62   2015-12-25 11:48:27.000
olimp   1   1,62   2015-12-25 11:48:27.000
pinnacle sports   2,31   1,675   2015-12-25 11:48:28.000
winmasters   2,1   1,65   2015-12-25 11:50:22.000
bethard   2,18   1,61   2015-12-25 11:56:59.000
1vice   2,3   1,645   2015-12-25 11:57:04.000
olimp   2,15   1   2015-12-25 11:57:05.000
olimp   1   1,6   2015-12-25 11:57:05.000
olimp   1   1,6   2015-12-25 11:57:05.000
pinnacle sports   2,34   1,662   2015-12-25 11:57:06.000
1vice   2,4   1,625   2015-12-25 12:25:46.000
bethard   2,26   1,57   2015-12-25 12:25:43.000
olimp   2,15   1   2015-12-25 12:25:49.000
olimp   1   1,6   2015-12-25 12:25:49.000
olimp   1   1,6   2015-12-25 12:25:49.000
pinnacle sports   2,41   1,628   2015-12-25 12:25:52.000
winmasters   2,16   1,62   2015-12-25 12:27:58.000


http://www.flashscore.com/match/l6bUKQBP/#odds-comparison;asian-handicap;ft-including-ot

here you can see that the first handicap line was at 1.5  at pinnacle  and later the line moved

http://www.oddsportal.com/basketball/china/cba/bayi-rockets-jiangsu-dragons-l6bUKQBP/#1X2;2

here you can see that the opening odds at handicap 4.5 was about 2.6 on guts too (and in the above chart winmasters too)

betcoin.tm is an  "early bookmaker" so it is possible that when the major bookmakers come out with their odds then these early bookmakers have to adjust/correct their odds.


https://i.imgur.com/4mSYcOv.png






Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 04:40:23 PM
Later i will share all other bets too. (with screenshots and flashscore/oddsportal links )


25 December 2015 12:35    Basketball: CHN CBA    Bayi Army Rocket vs. Jiangsu Dragons (80:99)    Points Spread: 2(-2.5)    2.19    Win
23 December 2015 12:35    Basketball: CHN CBA    Beijing Jinyu vs. Jiangsu Tongxi (105:77)    Points Spread (1st Quarter): 1(-5.5)    1.89    Win    
22 December 2015 20:30    Volleyball: Coppa Italia Superlega    Vero Volley vs. Modena Volley (2:3)    Totals: over 166.5    1.74    Win
21 December 2015 17:00    Basketball: GRE A1    Aenk vs. BC Olympiakos Piraeus (73:75)    Points Spread (1st Quarter): 2(-4.5)    1.98    Lost    
21 December 2015 17:00    Basketball: GRE A1    Aenk vs. BC Olympiakos Piraeus (73:75)    Asian Handicap HT: 2(-8.5)    1.89    Lost
20 December 2015 20:00    Basketball: ESP Liga ACB    Regal FC Barcelona vs. Fiatc Joventut (83:74)    Over/Under (3rd Quarter): over 38.5    1.99    Win
20 December 2015 20:00    Basketball: ESP Liga ACB    Regal FC Barcelona vs. Fiatc Joventut (83:74)    Over/Under (2nd Quarter): over 38.5    1.98    Win

This day is going to be the worst for betcoin.tm.    ( I will post this issue on all bookmakers forum later)


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 04:42:11 PM
 Dear Customer: upon further investigation and discussing with our sportsbook team, it looks like your bets were flagged in error. I apologize deeply for the inconvenience and the frustration this has caused! Your account was credited with the BTC in question. If you'd like to process a withdrawal, it might take a little extra time since you've never made one before, but it will be processed within 24 hours after you request it for up to 3 BTC. Thanks for your patience and understanding in this matter.


Thanks,
BetCoin ™ Support


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
I will update the status when i got my btc or after 12 hours if i not


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Gianluca95 on December 30, 2015, 04:59:33 PM
Have you tried to submit a withdraw request of your funds? Everyone on twitter campaign and betcoin campaign in this moment has withdrawing its funds.



Some people say the same thing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306412.0   and already completed
maybe this way you will get a response as you say not get a response from the service
thanks for this info so we know the place a bet in an honest site

Please, don't create any alarmism -.-''

I think that he is in holiday and once he will return he will fix all (this are particular day as I said in the official thread).

I also have to receive my upfront payment for signature campaign (3 week in advice) but I don't believe that betcoin.tm could scam so soon.

Sorry Gianluca95, but this words "I don't believe that betcoin.tm could scam so soon." doesn't sound good..

Hopefully everything will be ok, but if someone is starting campaign in time like this, should be achievable..


Sorry my mistake. Too many message and PM in this hours.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: santa_marta on December 30, 2015, 05:05:33 PM
I will update the status when i got my btc or after 12 hours if i not


nice ! :) you should get it soon


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: betcointm on December 30, 2015, 05:36:17 PM
I asked for a withdrawal 4 days ago.  (1 BTC)   ( Earlier I rejected all the bullshit bonus.)
I posted about it 3 times in betcoin.tm topic.   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283187.msg13371342#msg13371342 )

Yes, you did. And if you look there I asked you multiple times for your username and you simply kept going on about the withdrawal.. but eventually I was able to figure it out.

Quote
Yesterday betcoin.tm claimed in there topic that there was no pending withdrawal in their queue.

There weren't when I checked.

Quote
I checked my account and saw that my withdrawal was cancelled, so i tried to make another one, but the system did not work, when i clicked on the withdrawal button nothing happened.
I posted this new issue in betcoin.tm topic that the withdrawals did not work.   (no answer)
Some hour later i checked my account again and my balance was cleared to 0. (from 2.88 BTC)
I posted this 3.rd issue in their topic.  (no answer)
Later i contacted them via live chat but the agent could not say anything, just forwarding my issue. ( nothing happened)
Today i contacted them via online form.   (no answer)

FALSE. Here is what we said to you: Dear Customer: your balance was confiscated due to your sports betting. The bets you placed were not mutually exclusive, and our sportsbook provider notified us. This is considered illicit behavior and the results for behaviors that break our terms and conditions are always confiscation of deposits and winnings.  If you want to contest this finding, please notify me so that I can ask the sportsbook provider to give me full details and analysis of your bets. Thank you.

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I suggest you not to play at betcoin.tm.      They are from Greece.   They use the same odds provider as bet8.gr .


We may have the same provider, but we aren't based in Greece. We're based out of Hong Kong - information that is readily available to those who search.

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Cleared account balance:
https://i.imgur.com/vlagCGD.png

Bet list:
https://i.imgur.com/YWj8iAS.png

Transaction history:  (Earlier i cound not find it, and asked 3 times in betcoin.tm topic where the transaction list is, but i got no answer)
https://i.imgur.com/HmyGFGx.png

This is not the first time i say not to play at a bookmaker.  

   
bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0    
They of course disappeared some months later as i predicted.

Betvip also disappeared ,also predicted    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11627924#msg11627924

My next prediction is that betcoin.tm will be the next.

I saw a lot of post that their withdrawals went through .  But all those withdrawals are in the joke category: 0.0X   or 0.1X  BTC  

i will attach the live chat conversation too.

Edit: 

they confiscated all my winnings and deposit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1309070.msg13400263#msg13400263 


i will share all my 11 bets here, so you can decide ...

So with multiple third party providers, hundreds of users online daily, a Donator Bitcointalk profile, etc. etc., we're just going to disappear? I can understand why you're upset, but we CLEARLY communicated the circumstances surrounding your account. When we realized that we got a bad tip we re-instated your balance immediately.

At any rate, your withdrawal will be processed soon. And, in all honesty and sincerity, good betting! :)

Glad to get this sorted.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: magicmexican on December 30, 2015, 06:20:27 PM

basketball over 200, then bet again over 197 when odds change then bet again over 202 and so on... this also applies when live betting, I guess those were live bets right ? Those events are not mutually exclusive, I think you can only have one bet open.

What kind of bullshit rule is this? Any major solid bookie would absolutely laugh at absurdity of these "rules".


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: betcointm on December 30, 2015, 06:25:13 PM
sorry to hear that, it is said that betcoin.tm only pays a few money, they don't pay big money.

about betvip, it is said that cloudbet acquired betvip, but last time i check the link, it redirects to a forum, which is weird.

you should bet on reliable bookies, like nitrogen, cloudbet, betcoin, directbet and so forth, never try big money on new sites or notorious sites.

btw, betcoint.tm is not from greece, from Hongkong i heard, and they use the other sportsbook's service so you find those 2 sites have same odds

There was a guy recently to whom we paid 5 BTC on a no-deposit bonus, and another one, rambeazle, who's cashed out 1 more than twice - both members of the forum. While I appreciate you informing members, please try to have more of an open mind.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: betcointm on December 30, 2015, 06:26:08 PM
I have played there a few times and I received all my small withdraw amounts, but when I tried to make a 1.1 withdraw, they made it disappear like a doughnut around a fat man!!  They never responded to any of my complaints or concerns about it and then they locked my account 2 weeks later.  These people are scamming assholes.

This does not sound like us - can you provide any proof?


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: WEBcreator on December 30, 2015, 06:26:17 PM
hundreds of users online daily, a Donator Bitcointalk profile, etc. etc., we're just going to disappear?

There are no proof that you got hundreds of user online daily because your site is known for being shady in the past as well as now and also that donator tag doesnt mean you will not scam or run away atleast , no one give a shit about digital identity anymore ever since maidak and master p pulling the scam trigger


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: betcointm on December 30, 2015, 07:22:14 PM
hundreds of users online daily, a Donator Bitcointalk profile, etc. etc., we're just going to disappear?

There are no proof that you got hundreds of user online daily because your site is known for being shady in the past as well as now and also that donator tag doesnt mean you will not scam or run away atleast , no one give a shit about digital identity anymore ever since maidak and master p pulling the scam trigger

I guess you're right about the 'online identity' problem, but I prefer a healthy mix of pragmatism and idealism than cynicism. 


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: sbrzol on December 30, 2015, 09:03:21 PM
i am waiting for my new withdrawal more than 3.5 hours.

If you made a mistake with confiscating all my winnings and deposits without any explanation/warning (more than 2 days ago) and made my "holiday" terrible , so
I think it is the least that you complete my withdrawal out of turn and not handle it like any normal withdrawal and wait so much time.  

(I got the first email from betcoin.tm 6 hours ago (confiscated email), i shared the email content here 10 minutes later,  this topic was opened well before it. )

Will i got my btc within the 24 hours timeframe?

Everybody can check whether i get it:

17ENKVzahSG9SbjuSkvaqQmRAXLdTEcqX3

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/17ENKVzahSG9SbjuSkvaqQmRAXLdTEcqX3


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: rizkyhiw on December 31, 2015, 05:17:11 AM

basketball over 200, then bet again over 197 when odds change then bet again over 202 and so on... this also applies when live betting, I guess those were live bets right ? Those events are not mutually exclusive, I think you can only have one bet open.

What kind of bullshit rule is this? Any major solid bookie would absolutely laugh at absurdity of these "rules".

Its really Weird if the rules like you stated is exist , where we can find the TOS like that? What bookie?
I will try to bet like that on DirectBet and see the result what will happened.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: betcointm on December 31, 2015, 11:25:24 AM
You've been paid out a while ago. Good betting!

fdb65acdc052bd8d0f0b8580d2e189aaaca599bf73d52e9bf5f1bbdb8da4ac20


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Himea on December 31, 2015, 01:50:13 PM
You've been paid out a while ago. Good betting!

fdb65acdc052bd8d0f0b8580d2e189aaaca599bf73d52e9bf5f1bbdb8da4ac20

glad to see this problem already solved, I hope this problem does not occur again in the future : D


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: Cs87kxy on December 31, 2015, 01:51:10 PM
You've been paid out a while ago. Good betting!

fdb65acdc052bd8d0f0b8580d2e189aaaca599bf73d52e9bf5f1bbdb8da4ac20

Nice to see that, now edit subject of topic and lock it ;) 


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: BTTrader on December 31, 2015, 07:41:30 PM
Hasn't this site been a scam site since like a year and a half ago?


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: erikalui on January 01, 2016, 06:13:16 PM
I still have not got any response about my withdrawal issue. I know it's a small amount of 0.0029 BTC but still I need a response. I have messaged betcoin twice about this :(


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: irfan_pak10 on January 01, 2016, 06:15:52 PM
I still have not got any response about my withdrawal issue. I know it's a small amount of 0.0029 BTC but still I need a response. I have messaged betcoin twice about this :(

Why Dont you talk with the Live support? As the betcointm away, and probably not sure he will be away until 4th jan.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: erikalui on January 01, 2016, 07:12:24 PM
I still have not got any response about my withdrawal issue. I know it's a small amount of 0.0029 BTC but still I need a response. I have messaged betcoin twice about this :(

Why Dont you talk with the Live support? As the betcointm away, and probably not sure he will be away until 4th jan.

I tried contacting live support but when I login, the live agent is either offline or the search goes on when the agent is online. I contacted admin over here and he said that he could do it manually. I am still waiting for him to reply else would try to contact live agent tomorrow.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: betcointm on January 02, 2016, 11:52:45 AM
I still have not got any response about my withdrawal issue. I know it's a small amount of 0.0029 BTC but still I need a response. I have messaged betcoin twice about this :(

I think I cashed you out, mate. Let me check again.


Title: Re: betcoin.tm is a scam site , cleared my account to 0, 2.88 BTC lost
Post by: betcointm on January 02, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Hasn't this site been a scam site since like a year and a half ago?

Why don't you do some research into all the recent threads about us. I'd say that everyone is pretty satisfied.