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Title: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: Mr. Kashif on December 31, 2015, 01:02:23 PM YesMiners is a company claiming to provide us with outstanding miners hashing at 20th/s and 10th/s with power consumption of 1500w and 800w respectively. The link to the website is given here : https://www.yesminers.de/en/mining.html
https://i.imgur.com/cukeCmM.png I felt a bit suspicious about it and digged a lil bit about the company, its registration, its Bitcoin Wallet address and everything. The imprint is given below and I'll also provide the links about the registration blockchain search, etc, etc. IMPRINT YESMINERS PYC Pylon Consulting GmbH Radickestraße 28 21079 Hamburg Germany Telephone: +49 (0) 40 60944227 Fax: +49 (0) 40 328903020 Web: http://www.yesminers.com E-Mail: support@yesminers.com CEO: Carsten Schuldt Owner: Volker Studier Responsible according to § 5 TMG: Responsible for content: Gemäß § 55 Abs. 2 RStV: Carsten Schuldt Responsible in the interests of the press law: Carsten Schuldt Register court: Hamburg Register number: 134023 Financial office: Hamburg Tax number: 47/752/00915 VAT-ID: DE 300255087 BANK INFORMATION Account owner: PYC Pylon Consulting GmbH Bank name: Fidor Bank SWIFT: FDDODEMMXXX IBAN: DE28700222000020049251 Clearing: BTC Wallet: 152E7PAaDsAhwGSSBq6DPDpdTEeDdEuC2e Call us at +49 (0) 40 60944227 or write an email to support@yesminers.com. According to the above given imprint the names of the Owner and CEO is clearly mentioned and while I checked into the German Government Company registration the names and company seem legitimate to me. https://i.imgur.com/KsDUiPL.png As you can see the name of the company is registered and legitimate. And yes the payment methods they have are : PAYMENT METHODS You can choose between the following payment methods: Bank Transfer: Take advantage of the SEPA bank transfer and send the total amount of your order to our bank account. Bitcoin (by Coinify): Of course, you can use Bitcoins as your payment option too. And NEW: also Litecoin, Startcoin, TetherUSD, Dogecoin, Peercoin, IXCoin, IOCoin, Mintcoin, StorjcoinX, Nubits, Hypercoin, Novacoin, Digibyte, Quarkcoin, Reddcoin. More payment methods via our payment service provider Skrill (Moneybookers): Bank Transfer SOFORT Überweisung Giropay Skrill eWallet Credit Cards: Visa, MasterCard, AMEX, Diners, JCB Debit SEPA Maestro iDEAL EPS Online Payment Postepay Carte Bleue Laser Dankort CartaSi Nordea Solo Przelewy24 eNETS POLi More payment methods via our payment service provider Novalnet AG: Bank Transfer SOFORT Überweisung Debit SEPA iDEAL EPS Online Payment If anyone can give me a proper information on this it'd be great and based on the your opinion I'll move forward to buy this 20TH/s miner. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: dogie on December 31, 2015, 01:07:16 PM According to the above given imprint the names of the Owner and CEO is clearly mentioned and while I checked into the German Government Company registration the names and company seem legitimate to me. As you can see the name of the company is registered and legitimate. Means nothing. Brand new account advertising a 99% scam company, this isn't 2014 any more dude. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: Mr. Kashif on December 31, 2015, 01:16:28 PM Dude, I'm asking for help. I too don't know if they are legit. I just need some help. If you could, It'd be great.
Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: Tupsu on December 31, 2015, 01:16:56 PM .. If anyone can give me a proper information on this it'd be great and based on the your opinion I'll move forward to buy this 20TH/s miner. Go and buy it. I can sell you a homemade coupon 10% off for each YES/Scam miner. Only 0.2 BTC. Valid for 10 years Dude, I'm asking for help. I too don't know if they are legit. I just need some help. If you could, It'd be great. Use search https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126303.0;all https://www.google.ee/#q=yes+miner+bitcointalk.org Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: toptek on December 31, 2015, 02:58:22 PM This Again until some one can prove they are which they don't exist !!!! LMAO go pay it then come back tell us how it went. some pool fools did pay it on the forums they said, and got ripped off .
@ Tupsu LMAO good one wish I had thought that up. Wonder how much they made in so called sells, so far, stealing. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: flikflak on December 31, 2015, 03:18:21 PM Twec!
Even the (now former) reseller hasn't seen a working miner yet, no new pictures, no new videos, no evidence at all. Buy it, when you see it. The shipping should start next week (or the 19th January 2016). Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: VirosaGITS on December 31, 2015, 07:17:27 PM Dude, I'm asking for help. I too don't know if they are legit. I just need some help. If you could, It'd be great. Its an obvious scam, even the private companies don't have this kind of hardware, this is generation ahead of what could be possible with the best technology available and if it did exist, it would certainty not be dirt cheap, a tiny fraction of what current hardware goes for. So all you're doing is telling unaware people that you did a search on this and found it to be legitimate. TLDR:You're advertising a scam and you're a brand new account, everyone is going to think you're a Chill and maybe even give you red trust. I'd recommend you edit atop your first post in red that its 99.999999% certain to be a scam, if you want to avoid Flak from the community. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: toptek on December 31, 2015, 08:21:17 PM Dude, I'm asking for help. I too don't know if they are legit. I just need some help. If you could, It'd be great. Its an obvious scam, even the private companies don't have this kind of hardware, this is generation ahead of what could be possible with the best technology available and if it did exist, it would certainty not be dirt cheap, a tiny fraction of what current hardware goes for. So all you're doing is telling unaware people that you did a search on this and found it to be legitimate. TLDR:You're advertising a scam and you're a brand new account, everyone is going to think you're a Chill and maybe even give you red trust. I'd recommend you edit atop your first post in red that its 99.999999% certain to be a scam, if you want to avoid Flak from the community. I agree that was to cheap it should be more like 12 k or more for that thing .and on that exchange with a store in another post i said about some guy pushing b1 it was listed at 14nm and was about the time KNC released info on there solar chips , same 20 th and price was offering help anyone get a loan for a fee. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: QuintLeo on January 01, 2016, 09:41:29 AM There have been a FEW threads already now talking about HOW OBVIOUS OF A SCAM "Yesminers" is.
Their alleged M20 was announced several months ago, and seems to have been piggybacking on KNC's announcement of their "Solar" chip - which they are not selling to ANYONE assuming that Solar is actually in production as KNC recently claimed. I can see a possibility of a LEGIT miner at close to those specs showing up in 2016 - but I would bet a TON it won't be associated with "Yesminers". Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: marvykkio on January 01, 2016, 10:55:02 AM scam 100%
Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: Searing on January 01, 2016, 11:23:01 AM scam 100% There are threads on Litecointalk.org about these guys...and a defender..its a hoot...what a tool.... the simple way to tell if it was legit would be a 'thread by the company' on bitcointalk with hundreds of posts..but then again that would require SOMEONE outside of yes miners to actually SEE their unicorn of a machine.....so that should tell you much...been around 7 months prototype supposedly folk see more UFO's then have ever spotted a 'yes miner' in the same amount of time .....a frigging unicorn hunt....it don't exist. :) below is litecointalk thread for giggles on this 'supposed' miner :) https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=27692.0 (https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=27692.0) If they exist ..I will join the UFO Society.....imho at that point I'd have to look at UFO films in a more positive light :) Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: atmtech on January 01, 2016, 04:58:49 PM About the only thing this M20 mines is the money of fools that buy it.
This screams scam only the government has the technology today to make something like this and you sure aren't pricing it at 1500. Bitmain would buy them up in a heartbeat and it would never see the outsides of their data centers. Just say NO to Yes miners. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: Prelude on January 01, 2016, 05:07:46 PM All that needed to be said in this thread was said in the first reply by Dogie. Can you guys stop bumping these scam threads up to the top of the forums and giving them attention!? Do you really think what you have to say on this dead horse subject really needs to be heard??? ::)
Edit: ▼▼▼ Case in point ▼▼▼ Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: Unblock64 on January 01, 2016, 05:25:03 PM Nicely us begin the new year. Moron who registered 31.12 / 2015 writes about the Scam company. So the whole year will grow a new thread with YESMINER. I vote for it to be a dirty word YESMINER was blocked by the forum. PF2016 for all intelligent people ..... ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: tmfp on January 01, 2016, 05:49:10 PM All that needed to be said in this thread was said in the first reply by Dogie. Can you guys stop bumping these scam threads up to the top of the forums and giving them attention!? Do you really think what you have to say on this dead horse subject really needs to be heard??? ::) Agreed, although I'd also point out that the registered Yes owner, Volker Studier was, for reasons unclear back in May, pretending to be surprised on Twitter that his Yes "miners" were for sale on German E Bay. http://www.ebay.de/itm/YESMINER-BITCOIN-MINER-10000-GH-s-10-TH-s-16nm-3D-FinFET-Gutschein-Stand-Alone-/161930303214 And still are, or appear to be, until you read the small print at the end of the blurb, where you find out you're not buying a miner at all, but Quote For legal reasons, in this auction you offer for a voucher (discount code) for our internet store worth a total of 2630 Euro. The voucher is valid indefinitely and can be fully redeemed any time in our webstore for example to the following product. Of course, the voucher can be used alternatively on higher quality products, it is not limited to the following example. I would guess that is so the EBay dispute process couldn't be of use to a buyer when the vaporware obviously never turns up, because what you bought (the coupon) was delivered. Nicely us begin the new year. Moron who registered 31.12 / 2015 writes about the Scam company. So the whole year will grow a new thread with YESMINER. I vote for it to be a dirty word YESMINER was blocked by the forum. I hear what you're saying, but live in hope that people thinking about spending money on this vaporware might actually use "search" here before they do and be swayed against doing so by reading threads like this. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: iglasses on January 03, 2016, 05:27:30 AM If someone could build a 20Ths 1500w miner the very last thing on earth they would do is tell anyone about it...let alone sell it.
Do you understand how insanely rich you could get unleashing a monster like that on the network? The difficulty would be over 1 trillion if that miner existed. Do you think a designer builds something like that and makes a few dozen? THEY MAKE THOUSANDS. Imagine thousands and thousands of 20Ths, 1500w miners set loose on the network. It simply doesn't compute. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: testbug on January 03, 2016, 01:08:33 PM I am also curious if this is real, let's see what the newsletter is telling soon ;)
Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: el_rlee on January 03, 2016, 05:42:57 PM The German part of the forum is full with this. Drama in progress.
Let's also not forget that the CEO of the company shares (pretty uncommon)name and year of birth with a convicted kidnapper. https://web.archive.org/web/20150824140747/http://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/oesterreich/chronik/374628_Janssen-Entfuehrer-Hohe-Haftstrafen.html?em_cnt=374628 Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: uno-xbix on February 08, 2016, 12:45:56 PM Dude, I'm asking for help. I too don't know if they are legit. I just need some help. If you could, It'd be great. Its an obvious scam, even the private companies don't have this kind of hardware, this is generation ahead of what could be possible with the best technology available and if it did exist, it would certainty not be dirt cheap, a tiny fraction of what current hardware goes for. So all you're doing is telling unaware people that you did a search on this and found it to be legitimate. TLDR:You're advertising a scam and you're a brand new account, everyone is going to think you're a Chill and maybe even give you red trust. I'd recommend you edit atop your first post in red that its 99.999999% certain to be a scam, if you want to avoid Flak from the community. I agree that was to cheap it should be more like 12 k or more for that thing .and on that exchange with a store in another post i said about some guy pushing b1 it was listed at 14nm and was about the time KNC released info on there solar chips , same 20 th and price was offering help anyone get a loan for a fee. But I can tell from experience that they have very big problems with the delivery's at least. In other words; they do not deliver as planned if they do deliver at all. So I,m 'glad' I 'only' ordered 2 of those miners. Still eu4000,- :'( I think I pay them a visit soon, Hamburg is within reach for me. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: Minerkev on February 08, 2016, 09:11:27 PM Its not yesminer its nominer ;D
Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: fr4nkthetank on February 09, 2016, 02:43:52 AM Its a scam miner. registered company means nothing. HEck, a good scammer can register a name (its like 20$), rent a shared office (like really cheap) to get a business address and shit, or even a po box...oh why do I even bother. you arent gonna hash 20ths at 1500w god damn it.
Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: notlist3d on February 09, 2016, 04:47:04 AM Its a scam miner. registered company means nothing. HEck, a good scammer can register a name (its like 20$), rent a shared office (like really cheap) to get a business address and shit, or even a po box...oh why do I even bother. you arent gonna hash 20ths at 1500w god damn it. And they can pay them self's from a company and say they are working on it. Keep going till they are empty on cash and close. Maybe a few get lawsuits (even if you do it's no guarentee you get paid). The only winners in this is the ones that scammed people. No one should be buying them at this point. And really no one should have bought at all. People need to realize rendering does not mean there is a miner. Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: leowonderful on February 10, 2016, 01:03:13 PM if their miner indeed hashed at 20ths/1500w, i'm sure they would be dominating the pools of bitcoin by now.
Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: fronti on February 10, 2016, 01:18:41 PM if their miner indeed hashed at 20ths/1500w, i'm sure they would be dominating the pools of bitcoin by now. funny thing is, that the difficulty is "exploding" last weeks... but yesminers did not use this for marketing, a good scammer would do :) so they are not even a good scamming company Title: Re: Yes Miners... Is their M20 model hashing at 20Th/s at 1500w for real? Post by: klintay on February 10, 2016, 06:47:11 PM Yesminer is those MAT scamming bastards from a while ago...they just reinvent themselves with the same "lines" of german tech, etc.
Let's face it there are no new manufacturers on the scene...if they don't have a history then don't trust them...the ones with legit history of delivering is seriously dwindling as well, so keep smart and avoid these types of obvious scams. Just buy some cryptocoins and hold... |
