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Title: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: pawel7777 on January 01, 2016, 05:56:05 PM
Here's short video of Putin's speach that apparently was blocked in Germany (shocked not).

Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & political correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJMmtxgPPs


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: ace45954 on January 01, 2016, 07:16:58 PM
 ;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
Putin sure has a lot of moxie criticizing the West as his own country's economy continues its free fall into irrelevance.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Balthazar on January 01, 2016, 07:54:09 PM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 02, 2016, 12:08:08 AM
Pls. where is about "low birth rates"?? There are no such words.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: pawel7777 on January 02, 2016, 01:29:47 AM
Pls. where is about "low birth rates"?? There are no such words.

Noticed 'loss of reproductive functions'?


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Wilikon on January 02, 2016, 01:37:35 AM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.


Can you confirm the translation is accurate?




Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Balthazar on January 02, 2016, 01:58:07 AM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.


Can you confirm the translation is accurate?
This translation almost accurately matched with his speech, but I have to make few corrections.

@ 1:58
He was speaking about traditional/indigenous values in general, this "(christian)" remark should be treated as translator's own opinion;

@ 2:38
He didn't mention USA and NATO in this part of speech, so these "(USA)" and "(NATO)" remarks should be either removed or treated as translator's opinion.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Balthazar on January 02, 2016, 02:46:03 AM
Pls. where is about "low birth rates"?? There are no such words.

Noticed 'loss of reproductive functions'?
You are correct here, he referred to the demographic issues.

However, I'd say that he was speaking more about spiritual side rather than a physiological reproduction... That extremist version of political correctness prevents society from any attempts to correct the ongoing shift of western european culture in a direction of radical islamist tendencies. Though it's just my opinion.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: pattu1 on January 02, 2016, 02:54:28 AM
The low birth rates might be tough to reverse, given the general change in society.
Political correctness can be wiped out quickly. All it takes is one event for the far right to obtain political relevance.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Balthazar on January 02, 2016, 03:09:36 AM
Political correctness can be wiped out quickly. All it takes is one event for the far right to obtain political relevance.
That's not so easy, since all significant political powers are infected by this cancer. Even in Russia, sometimes there is no possibility to criticize adepts of LGBT cult without risk of getting lawsuit.

It's like ISIS, can't be defeated on some limited territory, only quick and global extermination can help. Otherwise it will mutate into disguised form and then will come back.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: ridery99 on January 02, 2016, 08:15:41 AM
Here's short video of Putin's speach that apparently was blocked in Germany (shocked not).

Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & political correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJMmtxgPPs

Wise words  :)


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 02, 2016, 09:08:59 AM

Noticed 'loss of reproductive functions'?

Who cares about it,
Check birth story in Iran after condomes ban.

The number of heterosexuals in EU is constant.

This is not about "reproductive functions", but abut "protection of sexual-orientation rights" (http://wol.iza.org/articles/sexual-orientation-and-labor-market-outcomes/long).


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: ace45954 on January 03, 2016, 07:07:04 PM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.
Nope. Russia is dying. Its demographics are poor. Its economy is royally screwed. Putin is a crappy leader with no understanding of how economies work and instead tries to suppress freedom of speech thinking that silencing dissent will save his country. He is also anti Bitcoin. It's funny but also pitiful really...

In 2015 Russia's per capita GDP fell to $8447 a year. That's below the world average and less than $200 more than China. Russia is finished.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: CoinCube on January 04, 2016, 06:17:25 AM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.
Nope. Russia is dying. Its demographics are poor. Its economy is royally screwed. Putin is a crappy leader with no understanding of how economies work and instead tries to suppress freedom of speech thinking that silencing dissent will save his country. He is also anti Bitcoin. It's funny but also pitiful really...

In 2015 Russia's per capita GDP fell to $8447 a year. That's below the world average and less than $200 more than China. Russia is finished.

Russian demographics are better than its surrounding areas and improving.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

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As of 2014, Russian TFR of 1.750 children per woman[8] was the highest in Eastern, Southern and Central Europe. In 2013, Russia experienced the first natural population growth since 1990 at 22,700 people. Taking into account immigration, the population grew by 294,500 people


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: ace45954 on January 04, 2016, 11:55:01 PM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.
Nope. Russia is dying. Its demographics are poor. Its economy is royally screwed. Putin is a crappy leader with no understanding of how economies work and instead tries to suppress freedom of speech thinking that silencing dissent will save his country. He is also anti Bitcoin. It's funny but also pitiful really...

In 2015 Russia's per capita GDP fell to $8447 a year. That's below the world average and less than $200 more than China. Russia is finished.

Russian demographics are better than its surrounding areas and improving.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

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As of 2014, Russian TFR of 1.750 children per woman[8] was the highest in Eastern, Southern and Central Europe. In 2013, Russia experienced the first natural population growth since 1990 at 22,700 people. Taking into account immigration, the population grew by 294,500 people

Only by spending billions to encourage people to have children.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-13143523
Money they can't afford to spend because their economy is shrinking rapidly. And even despite this, their population is expected to fall roughly 5% in the next 15 years or so. All while the economy continues its death throes.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 05, 2016, 02:04:28 AM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.
Nope. Russia is dying. Its demographics are poor. Its economy is royally screwed. Putin is a crappy leader with no understanding of how economies work and instead tries to suppress freedom of speech thinking that silencing dissent will save his country. He is also anti Bitcoin. It's funny but also pitiful really...

In 2015 Russia's per capita GDP fell to $8447 a year. That's below the world average and less than $200 more than China. Russia is finished.

Russian demographics are better than its surrounding areas and improving.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

Quote
As of 2014, Russian TFR of 1.750 children per woman[8] was the highest in Eastern, Southern and Central Europe. In 2013, Russia experienced the first natural population growth since 1990 at 22,700 people. Taking into account immigration, the population grew by 294,500 people

Only by spending billions to encourage people to have children.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-13143523
Money they can't afford to spend because their economy is shrinking rapidly. And even despite this, their population is expected to fall roughly 5% in the next 15 years or so. All while the economy continues its death throes.

First you claimed that the Russian population is dying. Now when the evidence has presented to prove that your argument was false, you are claiming something else. The Russian economy has stabilized. There has been no jump in the unemployment rates, and the rapid growth in some of the sectors (agriculture and mining) have neutralized the slowdown affecting the other sectors.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Balthazar on January 05, 2016, 03:45:10 AM
First you claimed that the Russian population is dying. Now when the evidence has presented to prove that your argument was false, you are claiming something else.
It's a normal behaviour for BBC victim. They're simply jumping over awkward issues, using false claims as islands of stability of their illusion world.

"The most pathetic person in the world is someone who has sight, but has no vision."



Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Hazir on January 05, 2016, 10:28:21 PM
;D lol If anyone is going extinct due to low birth rates, it's Russia
You need to upgrade your firmware, it's outdated.
It is not about Russia's birthrate or any other western country birthrate. Don't argue about that. It is about being right or not - and Putin is clearly speaking the truth here, in blunt way, whether we like it or not.
That is the truth, western civilization is in crisis - we are being eaten by political correctness - that's a fact.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 07, 2016, 02:38:43 AM
Russia - Statistics from Goskomstat (January to November 2015):

Total Births: 1,772,648 (birth rate of 13.243 per thousand, which is higher than the German birth rate of 8.42 per thousand).

Total Deaths: 1,748,111 (death rate of 13.060 per thousand, which is comparable with the German death rate of 11.29 per thousand).

Natural Growth of population: 24,537 (Germany had a natural decline of population by 250,000).

Migration growth of population: 191,501 (Germany had migration growth of 1,200,000+).

Leading sources of net migration to Russia: Ukraine (118,441), Kazakhstan (28,214), Armenia (17,140), and Moldova (14,170). [All from White and Christian groups].

Leading sources of net migration to Germany: Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Somalia, Eritrea.etc.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: BADecker on January 07, 2016, 02:58:06 AM
Russia - Statistics from Goskomstat (January to November 2015):

Total Births: 1,772,648 (birth rate of 13.243 per thousand, which is higher than the German birth rate of 8.42 per thousand).

Total Deaths: 1,748,111 (death rate of 13.060 per thousand, which is comparable with the German death rate of 11.29 per thousand).

Natural Growth of population: 24,537 (Germany had a natural decline of population by 250,000).

Migration growth of population: 191,501 (Germany had migration growth of 1,200,000+).

Leading sources of net migration to Russia: Ukraine (118,441), Kazakhstan (28,214), Armenia (17,140), and Moldova (14,170). [All from White and Christian groups].

Leading sources of net migration to Germany: Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Somalia, Eritrea.etc.

From Daniel 2:44:
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In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

:)


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: designerusa on January 24, 2016, 06:35:42 PM
Here's short video of Putin's speach that apparently was blocked in Germany (shocked not).

Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & political correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJMmtxgPPs

yes, he is definitely right.. western civilization is getting older on the other hand; eastern civilization is getting younger.. so the second one will toll the death knell for the antecedant..


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 26, 2016, 09:39:16 AM
yes, he is definitely right.. western civilization is getting older on the other hand; eastern civilization is getting younger.. so the second one will toll the death knell for the antecedant..

Western Europe as a whole is ageing rapidly. But one of the reasons for that is the increase in human longevity. Western European males are having a life span of more than 80 years, on average. On the other hand, the life span for Eastern European males are around 66-67 years. It is slowly increasing as of now, but I don't think that the two will converge at any point of time in this century.


Title: Re: Putin: Western Civilization "going extinct" - low birth rates & PC
Post by: Balthazar on January 26, 2016, 05:20:31 PM
That's how internationalism is working.

https://twitter.com/LavrovMuesli/status/691995639371190274