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Title: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 05, 2016, 10:54:27 AM
This Is A Very Troubling Chart

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/04/2016 18:54 -0500


The chart below, showing the total number of monthly FBI firearm background checks - a direct proxy for gun purchases in the U.S., needs no commentary.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/01/FBI%20background%20checks%20Dec%202015_0.jpg

Here is the same data, on a monthly basis to avoid the seasonal noise. No matter how one looks at it though, the 3.3 million background checks in December was a record high.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/01/December%20FBI%20checks_0.jpg

Neither of these are the "troubling chart" referenced in the title. This one shown below is, and it comes courtesy of the NYT:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/12/driver%20of%20gun%20sales_0.jpg

The chart shows that while the soaring gun sales are the effect, the cause is simple: president Obama.

The same president who tomorrow at 11:40am will finally reveal just what, after many delays, his executive action(s) on gun control will be.

The concern is that with one more year under Obama's term, gun sales over the next 12 months are certain to surge to new all time highs as Obama's crusade to crush the second amendment slowly picks up steam in order to cement his "anti-gun" legacy, and as the population rushes to buy as many as it can before Obama makes such purchases illegal.

It's not all bad news though: gun makers could not have asked for a better president, as the following headline just confirmed:

SMITH & WESSON SEES 3Q ADJ. EPS 39C-41C, SAW 27C-29C
As of this moment Smith and Wesson is trading at an all time high.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-04/very-troubling-chart


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: HarizDB on January 05, 2016, 11:12:45 AM
The continues 'attacks' by the Democrats on the second amendment seems to have made a turnover in terms of what they wanted to really do. 


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 05, 2016, 11:31:08 AM
The continues 'attacks' by the Democrats on the second amendment seems to have made a turnover in terms of what they wanted to really do.  

Yeah well, the more they talk about controls on gun sales, the more gun sales balloon. It´s actually Market 101, which is either totally beyond the comprehension of these people or they´ve been encouraging this sales boom by intent. Either way, it has been very successful.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: BADecker on January 05, 2016, 01:06:58 PM
The continues 'attacks' by the Democrats on the second amendment seems to have made a turnover in terms of what they wanted to really do.  

Yeah well, the more they talk about controls on gun sales, the more gun sales balloon. It´s actually Market 101, which is either totally beyond the comprehension of these people or they´ve been encouraging this sales boom by intent. Either way, it has been very successful.

Now we need more ammo sales. In addition, we need common sense training among the people. We also need to realize that with increased arms there is the greater potential for mistakes and accidents.

Two other things we greatly need are:

1. When government comes after guns, they come as an armed group against individual gun owners. Gun owners need to unite in local groups to protect each other. This need isn't something that has to be practiced on a "living" basis. That is, we don't have to move in together. But we have to be ready to support and protect each other like the "militia" people protected the Bundy ranchers. Perhaps we need to form groups that are ready to go to the aid of fellow members on a moment's notice... with a phone or radio call.

2. The second thing that we need is the knowledge between legal and lawful. We have the right to anything that we want, as long as we harm no one, nor damage his property. If we harm no one, the Preamble to the Constitution says that government was formed to be a benefit. If they take our guns when we have harmed no one, they are taking our property. Stealing our property is not benefit for us. Therefore, it is something that they cannot do. Any government agent that takes our property is acting outside his authority. He is a common crook, or part of the gang of common crooks that he is working with, often known as the police, or SWAT, but known as government in general.

:)


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: a7mos on January 05, 2016, 01:10:07 PM
I do not understand why America does not control guns trading after all of these shooting accidents and crimes that happened last year. Do not thay want to keep their citizens safe ?


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: BADecker on January 05, 2016, 02:13:22 PM
I do not understand why America does not control guns trading after all of these shooting accidents and crimes that happened last year. Do not thay want to keep their citizens safe ?

America IS the people. Do the people want to keep the people safe? Yes? Then how do they do it. By buying and using guns on everyone who attacks them, right?

:)


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 05, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
Obama, wiping tears, makes new push to tighten gun rules

WASHINGTON, Jan 5 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Tuesday described new steps his administration will take to tighten gun rules and urged Americans to vote for candidates who do more to prevent gun violence, wiping back tears as he remembered children who died in a mass shooting.

As Obama delivered a powerful address in the White House, surrounded by family members of people killed in shootings, his voice rose to a yell as he said the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms needed to be balanced by the right to worship, gather peacefully and live their lives.

Obama has often said his toughest time in office was grappling with the December 2012 massacre of 20 children and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut.

"Every time I think about those kids, it gets me mad," Obama said, tears rolling down his cheek. ...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-wiping-tears-makes-push-175606511.html

Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation
25.88+2.60(11.18%)

http://finviz.com/chart.ashx?t=SWHC&ty=c&ta=0&p=m&s=l


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 05, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
"That changed me, that day," he said, after being introduced by Mark Barden, whose 7-year-old son was killed in the shooting. "My hope earnestly has been that it would change the country."

After that tragedy, the Democratic president failed to persuade Congress to toughen U.S. gun laws. He has blamed lawmakers for being in the thrall of the powerful National Rifle Association gun lobby group.

He said Americans need to be "just as passionate" as the NRA in changing gun laws, but acknowledged it won't happen during his final year in office.

Obama laid out executive action he is taking to require more gun sellers to get licenses and more gun buyers to undergo background checks.

Under the changes, the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will issue guidelines intended to narrow exceptions to a system that requires sellers to check with the Federal Bureau of Investigation to determine whether buyers have criminal records, are charged with crimes or have mental health conditions that would bar them from owning a gun.

Any changes to gun rules in America are fraught with political risk. The U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment gives Americans the right to have arms, a right that is fiercely defended.

The stocks of gunmakers Smith & Wesson Holding Corp and Sturm Ruger & Co Inc have climbed since the announcement. On Tuesday morning, Smith & Wesson jumped was up 10 percent to $25.58 a share and Sturm Ruger was up more than 6 percent at $65.46.

Legal challenges to the changes are expected and Republican presidential candidates have promised to reverse his order if they win the White House. But Obama, entering his eighth and last year in office, has said his measures are within his authority and consistent with the Constitution.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Wilikon on January 05, 2016, 06:28:56 PM
"That changed me, that day," he said, after being introduced by Mark Barden, whose 7-year-old son was killed in the shooting. "My hope earnestly has been that it would change the country."

After that tragedy, the Democratic president failed to persuade Congress to toughen U.S. gun laws. He has blamed lawmakers for being in the thrall of the powerful National Rifle Association gun lobby group.

He said Americans need to be "just as passionate" as the NRA in changing gun laws, but acknowledged it won't happen during his final year in office.

Obama laid out executive action he is taking to require more gun sellers to get licenses and more gun buyers to undergo background checks.

Under the changes, the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will issue guidelines intended to narrow exceptions to a system that requires sellers to check with the Federal Bureau of Investigation to determine whether buyers have criminal records, are charged with crimes or have mental health conditions that would bar them from owning a gun.

Any changes to gun rules in America are fraught with political risk. The U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment gives Americans the right to have arms, a right that is fiercely defended.

The stocks of gunmakers Smith & Wesson Holding Corp and Sturm Ruger & Co Inc have climbed since the announcement. On Tuesday morning, Smith & Wesson jumped was up 10 percent to $25.58 a share and Sturm Ruger was up more than 6 percent at $65.46.

Legal challenges to the changes are expected and Republican presidential candidates have promised to reverse his order if they win the White House. But Obama, entering his eighth and last year in office, has said his measures are within his authority and consistent with the Constitution.



EOs are as good as the next president let them fly. The rodeo clown does not understand he is not a king, but a lame duck president. No amount of fake tears and flipping the bird on live TV will change that.







Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Wilikon on January 05, 2016, 06:36:32 PM




I feel anyone 25 and younger will not get it...




Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: xht on January 05, 2016, 08:34:26 PM
don't ever let liberals stealing your rights i am not american or permanent resident , which i deeply regret , my dream is to become an american for the two first amendments and the freedom and history of your country, the fights of americans to gain their right ,that why i love texas and dixie in general they know the price of liberty.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Spendulus on January 05, 2016, 10:29:13 PM
I do not understand why America does not control guns trading after all of these shooting accidents and crimes that happened last year. Do not thay want to keep their citizens safe ?
Indeed, we do want to keep our citizens safe.

And we've learned -let's just say we've learned the hard way - that it's not enough to urge people to buy guns to protect themselves, their families and their communities.  That doesn't wake the sleeping giant.  The ugly wanna be scary dudes with the rags wrapped around there heads, those don't make people go out and buy guns.  They don't scare anyone.

Man, you have to start talking about taking guns away, and that works like a charm.  Buddy, let me tell you.  All of a sudden more guns get bought than the regulatorbaters could take away in ten years.

that's the way we do it... 



Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 05, 2016, 11:48:59 PM
Josh Earnest says Congress should close gun show loophole for good, answers NRA criticism

Twitchy  by Brett Taylor 11:27 pm

Following the president’s address on gun violence and the executive actions he intends to take to curtail it, it was left to Press Secretary Josh Earnest to bat cleanup with an afternoon Twitter Q&A session.

Ready to take your questions on #StopGunViolence so send my way using #AskPressSec, let's get started! pic.twitter.com/JD3LfADAgz

— Josh Earnest (@PressSec) January 5, 2016

The White House’s Twitter Q&As are usually pretty worthless affairs, and it’s no shocker that Earnest chose to answer a question from Everytown for Gun Safety, Michael Bloomberg’s anti-gun group that worked with the administration to draft the president’s executive actions.

.@PressSec What are the top things Congress can do to keep guns out of dangerous hands? #AskPressSec

— Everytown (@Everytown) January 5, 2016

Congress? Who needs Congress when you have a pen and a phone?

@PressSec are you suggesting that we actually let the Legislative Branch of our government write the laws? #StopGunViolence #2A

— Adam Reeder (@MrAdamReeder) January 5, 2016

If Congress is going to do anything, it should close that gun show loophole once and for all.

@PressSec @WhiteHouse @Everytown Loophole?????

— Daryn Thorpe (@ocredzone73) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @WhiteHouse @Everytown there is no gun show loophole, stop lying

— Jeffrey Maskrod (@j_maskrod) January 5, 2016

@PressSec How do you close something that doesn't exist? #StopGunViolence

— Torcer (@TorcerT) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @WhiteHouse There is no "gunshow loophole."

— Kevin Holamon (@kholamon) January 5, 2016

@PressSec we have any stats on injury or deaths due to Gun show loophole?

— SteveTretakis (@SteveTretakis) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @WhiteHouse No gunshow loopholes exist. Inciters of fear to rule the masses. 100% bold face liars. Elect more worthless activists

— Carl Thompson (@carlthompson427) January 5, 2016

@PressSec there is no "gunshow loophole." Licensed dealers at gun shows MUST run the requisite FBI checks. But I'm guessing you know this

— Amico di una tigre (@spacemanspiff76) January 5, 2016

@PressSec Are you really a robot programed to spit out liberal bullshit?

— trevor plemmons (@TrevorPlemmons) January 5, 2016

While he had a captive Twitter audience, Earnest wanted to respond to criticism by the NRA.

Also, wanted to take this opportunity to answer @PeterAlexander who asked for response to critical statement from @NRA. #askpresssec

— Josh Earnest (@PressSec) January 5, 2016

I'm confident families of gun violence victims didn't find @POTUS's words or actions to keep guns out of the wrong hands "condescending".

— Josh Earnest (@PressSec) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @POTUS The Benghazi families found him a lot worse than "condescending" after he lied to them about the video.

— Rep. Steven Smith (@RepStevenSmith) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @POTUS I am pretty sure the families of US Border agents kill by guns supplied by @POTUS and #AG Holder, did.

— thomas joseph (@notime61) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @POTUS And I'm sure families of those murdered by illegal aliens wonder where the tears and call to action are for their families

— Uncle BS (@bs_uncle) January 5, 2016

.@PressSec .@POTUS Making proposals that would have had ZERO impact on these tragedies is, by definition, condescending. #HeJustDoesntGetIt

— Factor One (@dafactor1) January 5, 2016

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Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: zenitzz on January 05, 2016, 11:57:52 PM
Asking people to end gun violence is fine. Nobody wants this. But let us be clear here: nobody has the right to remove weapons from a law abiding public.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Wilikon on January 06, 2016, 12:47:52 AM
Asking people to end gun violence is fine. Nobody wants this. But let us be clear here: nobody has the right to remove weapons from a law abiding public.


Unless you are a man child president acting like a king




Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: BADecker on January 06, 2016, 02:53:44 AM
Asking people to end gun violence is fine. Nobody wants this. But let us be clear here: nobody has the right to remove weapons from a law abiding public.


Unless you are a man child president acting like a king




Gun removal from a gun owner can only be done with bigger guns. Average gun owners are not violent, but those who remove guns from owners are.

:)


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Spendulus on January 06, 2016, 03:50:45 AM
....
Legal challenges to the changes are expected and Republican presidential candidates have promised to reverse his order if they win the White House. But Obama, entering his eighth and last year in office, has said his measures are within his authority and consistent with the Constitution.

If he says it, to find what is true you reverse what he said.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: YoonYeonghwa on January 06, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
The police are killing too many black people with guns. Why can't Obama realise this?


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 06, 2016, 10:57:31 AM
The police are killing too many black people with guns. Why can't Obama realise this?

I don´t know what´s too few or too many and which of them are black, white or whichever color shade in between but police in the United States shoot dead about 1000 people a year. Doesn´t really seem huge in a country of 330 million people where just about everybody and their dog is armed to the teeth and that certainly goes for  criminals. I think 100-200 police offficers are killed in the line of duty per year.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: GTO911 on January 06, 2016, 12:48:28 PM
The police are killing too many black people with guns. Why can't Obama realise this?

Thats how you keep population in check


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 06, 2016, 01:36:31 PM
Tuesday morning feel good stories

Jonn Lilyea | January 5, 2016   

The police have had better luck shooting bad guys than citizens this week. Either that or the media quit reporting on citizens taking out criminals for some reason.

In Jacksonville, Florida, 16-year-old Dominion Bradshaw decided to rob a Jimmy John’s restaurant. he was spotted by an off-duty police officer who just arrived at his home. This is the best quote from a police officer that I ever read; “He’s watching this subject put this mask on – That’s a clue to us policemen that something’s about to happen.” Well, Bradshaw robbed the restaurant and tried to get away – when police saw him returning to his car they shouted for him to stop and he wouldn’t and he kept his hands in his waist band so the police shot his ass and took him to the hospital where he’s in stable but serious condition.

Police in Charlotte, North Carolina, serving an arrest were confronted by a number of people who shot at the police, the police returned fire making one of them DRT (dead right there).

In Abelene, Texas, a woman called police about a fellow outside her home with a gun and on some sort of drugs. When police arrived, the fellow opened fire on the police – that didn’t end well for him; they shot him in his “process” whatever that is, but it wasn’t life-threatening so now he’s being held on a $500 thousand bail.


Wednesday feel good stories

Jonn Lilyea | January 6, 2016
   
A homeowner in Las Vegas, Nevada greeted an intruder at his point of entry, but he escaped so police are not aware of any injuries.

Kevin sends us a story that happened in Dallas, Texas, where a car wash owner came to the rescue of a customer who was being robbed by three other men. When the men turned their guns on the owner, he gave them a full blast from his shot gun. There’s no word of injuries.

In Hamilton Township, Ohio, a judge sentenced a teen to 2-4 years in a Juvenile detention facility. The youngster was shot in the abdomen by a homeowner when the teen tried to rape the homeowner’s wife.

In Little Rock, Arkansas, both the suspect and victim were hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries after an encounter.

In Columbus, Ohio, Juwaun Pitts and Brandon Pollard tried to break into a home, but the homeowner resisted with some gunfire. Pollard was DRT (dead right there) after the encounter and now Pitts is facing murder charges.

In Stewartville, Minnesota, a homeowner confronted a burglar in his home with his gun. The burglar exclaimed “Oh!” and scurried out the door.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=63685


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Wilikon on January 06, 2016, 04:21:12 PM



Gun Store Owner Expects Gun Sales To Shoot Up After Obama’s Speech



A north Texas gun seller is praising the presidents speech, not because of the message… but because of what it will do to his bottom line.

Adam McGuffy is a manager at Mister Guns in Plano and says President Obama has always been good for business.

“Obama is the best gun salesman since Samuel Colt. Every time he opens his mouth and tries to limit gun purchase, it has the complete opposite effect.”

He says many get worried about more restrictions and flock to his and other gun stores to stock up.

“The last time he made a speech after the San Bernardino incident, our sales that day had doubled.”

He says it’s not just gun owners buying more guns, but first time buyers, trying to get one or more ahead of possible new laws.


http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/01/05/north-texas-gun-sales-shoot-up-after-obamas-speech/




Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 06, 2016, 05:11:17 PM
About 33,000 die by guns in the U.S., about the same number as in car accidents.

Homicides account for about a third, the rest is suicides, accidents and other.

I guess many times more are injured, some seriously, others less so.

It´s a pretty high number but you have a huge number of firearms in circulation and very widespread so viewed in that light I don´t really see it as an overwhelming crisis. In any event it´s obvious that only a tiny minority of the population uses guns for unlawful and harmful purposes. So, the objective should be to weed out those individuals and make it harder for others that have no business or mental capacity to have guns,

to join that small minority.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Spendulus on January 06, 2016, 05:14:12 PM
About 33,000 die by guns in the U.S., about the same number as in car accidents.

Homicides account for about a third, the rest is suicides, accidents and other.

I guess many times more are injured, some seriously, others less so.

It´s a pretty high number but you have a huge number of firearms in circulation and very widespread so viewed in that light I don´t really see it as an overwhelming crisis. In any event it´s obvious that only a tiny minority of the population uses guns for unlawful and harmful purposes. So, the objective should be to weed out those individuals and make it harder for others that have no business or mental capacity to have guns,

to join that small minority.


Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6UvNgbqIA


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Wilikon on January 06, 2016, 05:16:44 PM
About 33,000 die by guns in the U.S., about the same number as in car accidents.

Homicides account for about a third, the rest is suicides, accidents and other.

I guess many times more are injured, some seriously, others less so.

It´s a pretty high number but you have a huge number of firearms in circulation and very widespread so viewed in that light I don´t really see it as an overwhelming crisis. In any event it´s obvious that only a tiny minority of the population uses guns for unlawful and harmful purposes. So, the objective should be to weed out those individuals and make it harder for others that have no business or mental capacity to have guns,

to join that small minority.


Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6UvNgbqIA


 ;D :D ;D

He better be on that list.




Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 06, 2016, 05:23:21 PM
Well, guns are extremely dangerous of course and need to be handled very carefully and responsibly. Idiots will always manage to shoot themselves in the foot especially if trained by other idiots.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on January 06, 2016, 06:29:40 PM
The murder rate has dropped by 15-20% during Obama´s reign, in spite of those ballooning gun sales (or maybe because of that?) so that´s definitely nothing to cry about.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/images/murderrate.png


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: Wilikon on January 06, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
The police are killing too many black people with guns. Why can't Obama realise this?


Bad cops should be out of the force, or sent to jail, same with bad dentists or bad lawyers


What about blacks killing blacks?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/28/5-devastating-facts-black-black-crime/




Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: galdur on March 08, 2016, 06:52:59 AM
ATF: Gun Production More Than Doubled Since Obama Took Office

by AWR HAWKINS7 Mar 2016

The production of guns has more than doubled since President Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009, amid his frequent demands for more gun-control and fewer guns.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) has released its annual Firearms Manufacturing and Export Report, which shows that nine million firearms were built and sold in 2014, that’s up from 4.3 million firearms in 2008.

The March 7 report covers production figures from 2014, and shows that 3,633,454 pistols, 744,047 revolvers, 3,379,549 rifles, 935,411 shotguns, and 358,165 miscellaneous firearms were manufactured that year. That adds up to a total of 9,050,626 firearms.

And the 2014 figures, as high as they appear, were down slightly from the 2013 manufacturing total of 10,844,792.

To really grasp how great a surge the figures from 2014 and 2013 represent, consider the ATF’s report for 2008, when a total of 4,298,187 firearms were manufactured.

Or the figures from 2007, when a total of 3,922,613 guns were manufactured.

There is simply no comparison between the two pre-Obama years and what are the last two years of record for gun manufacturing during Obama’s second term.

Breitbart News previously reported that this surge was being fed in late 2015 via the huge growth in demand for guns.

According to CNN Money, Smith & Wesson’s sales for the quarter ending January 31, 2016, were up “61.5%” over the where they were at the end of the same quarter a year before. More broadly, on Black Friday 2015 the FBI conducted 185,345 background checks, not only breaking the previous record for background checks on a given Black Friday but also breaking the single-day record for background checks, period.

And on March 2 Breitbart News reported FBI figures showing that February 2016 was the tenth straight month of record background checks.

So firearm manufacturing continues to surge, but it does so because demand is through the roof.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/07/atf-gun-production-surging-during/


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: bitsmichel on March 08, 2016, 08:30:01 AM
About 33,000 die by guns in the U.S., about the same number as in car accidents.

Homicides account for about a third, the rest is suicides, accidents and other.

I guess many times more are injured, some seriously, others less so.

It´s a pretty high number but you have a huge number of firearms in circulation and very widespread so viewed in that light I don´t really see it as an overwhelming crisis. In any event it´s obvious that only a tiny minority of the population uses guns for unlawful and harmful purposes. So, the objective should be to weed out those individuals and make it harder for others that have no business or mental capacity to have guns,

to join that small minority.

When compares to other death causses, motor accidents is slightly more.
Heart disease, cancer and diabetes are the biggest killers in the US.


Title: Re: Obama´s drive to increase gun sales has been a resounding success story
Post by: aardvark15 on March 09, 2016, 03:37:37 AM
I have heard that when a democrat is in office (presidency), gun sales increase because of the fear that they will take away guns.  It's kind of ironic that it works that way.