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Title: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 06, 2016, 11:58:56 AM
i am gonna concentrate some of the replies in a post, so i will edit a lot in one post, you may see my reply at the earlier post instead of new one, i do not cheat the sign campaign in my thread. :)
so i would wish to plan a form of bitcoin related carnival, with what you have in the major fair like pirate ship, so-called game booths.

probably, it should mainly accept bitcoin as payment, but we would allow fiat to convince people as well. ???
what should we plan about it? like:

  • games/ prize of games
  • thrill rides
  • family rides
  • admission fees
  • the system
  • the foodstuffs
  • so on

if you have any idea, please post some of the good ideas here. if the plan did a success, it could even make that kind of carnival into a true form. (unlikely, but depends on the range of success.) i would add up everyone's opinion when possible.

voting of idea plan(PM me if i forgot to post result here):
  • admission price 6/1~10/1 ($5~10 is the best as chosen)
  • average game booth fees 10/1~13/1($2 would be the best for bitcoiners)
  • prices on food (part 1) 13/1~19/1
  • part 2 19/1~23/1
  • thrill rides? 23/1~25/1
  • further voting coming soon

please move this thread into a proper thread if i did it wrong here.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: franky1 on January 06, 2016, 12:50:27 PM
i think you mean a "county fair", kind of thing.
as to me when i hear circus i think of big tent with clowns dancing and lions and elephants doing tricks..

if there are no thrill rides where its only market stalls selling knicknacks and game stands like coconut shy and ball throwing at target stuff, the price of admission should be $5.

going up depending on number of activities and thrill rides available.
EG 3 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $10
EG 8 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $15

separately:
i see you have idea's for other votes.. um
fee's on food?

the word fee should never be mentioned.. all thats needed is premium pricing

EG buy a burger at mcdonalds costs $1 but at an event its $6 with no side fee mentioned.
that should be something a food vendor decides dependent on the location it will be done. EG if it were a county fair in the country, then dont expect millions of customers, if it was at a city edge then the food premium can be higher.. but again thats for the food vendor to decide.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 06, 2016, 01:26:32 PM
i think you mean a "county fair", kind of thing.
as to me when i hear circus i think of big tent with clowns dancing and lions and elephants doing tricks..

if there are no thrill rides where its only market stalls selling knicknacks and game stands like coconut shy and ball throwing at target stuff, the price of admission should be $5.

going up depending on number of activities and thrill rides available.
EG 3 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $10
EG 8 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $15

separately:
i see you have idea's for other votes.. um
fee's on food?

the word fee should never be mentioned.. all thats needed is premium pricing

EG buy a burger at mcdonalds costs $1 but at an event its $6 with no side fee mentioned.
that should be something a food vendor decides dependent on the location it will be done. EG if it were a county fair in the country, then dont expect millions of customers, if it was at a city edge then the food premium can be higher.. but again thats for the food vendor to decide.

i would recommend for around 4 major thrill rides, 8 smalls, and 30~40 market/gamestands.
i would recommend for $35~40 for infinite admission on thrill rides. ???


frank if you see this edit, it means i don't wanna post extra posts to cheat the sig campaign.
i would add another 2 thrill rides and a roller coaster at ~$30 price.(not $35~40)
btw should we import something epic? ;D


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: franky1 on January 06, 2016, 01:35:43 PM
i think you mean a "county fair", kind of thing.
as to me when i hear circus i think of big tent with clowns dancing and lions and elephants doing tricks..

if there are no thrill rides where its only market stalls selling knicknacks and game stands like coconut shy and ball throwing at target stuff, the price of admission should be $5.

going up depending on number of activities and thrill rides available.
EG 3 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $10
EG 8 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $15

separately:
i see you have idea's for other votes.. um
fee's on food?

the word fee should never be mentioned.. all thats needed is premium pricing

EG buy a burger at mcdonalds costs $1 but at an event its $6 with no side fee mentioned.
that should be something a food vendor decides dependent on the location it will be done. EG if it were a county fair in the country, then dont expect millions of customers, if it was at a city edge then the food premium can be higher.. but again thats for the food vendor to decide.

i would recommend for around 4 major thrill rides, 8 smalls, and 30~40 market/gamestands.
i would recommend for $35~40 for infinite admission on thrill rides. ???

50% of disney world daily price? (if buying just 1 day) or 80% of disneyworld daily price (if buying a 5 daypay deal).. really?
id say $20 max unless the destination was offering something special or the rides were spectacular

honestly unless it offers 50%-80% of what disneyland can offer. then pricing should not be that high, as you would end up pricing people out of wanting to attend

just google 'county fair' and get average prices
eg http://lacf.com/visit/get-started

Weekdays                     Weekends   + Holidays
Adults, 13+                  $12.00         $20.00
Child, ages 6-12            $8.00         $12.00
Child, ages 5 and under   Free         Free
Seniors 60+                  $10.00      $15.00

eg http://www.sdfair.com/index.php?fuseaction=tickets.home
    Adults $15
    Age 62 and older $8
    Age 6-12 $8 (free on Tuesdays)
    Age 5 and younger free

for basic admission id say under $20 and then have people pay per ride. and then have the 'exclusive vip' (make it sound special) all inclusive daypass for $35-40
but definetly not make everyone pay over $30 before even getting in.. atleast give them the choice


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 06, 2016, 01:54:48 PM
i think you mean a "county fair", kind of thing.
as to me when i hear circus i think of big tent with clowns dancing and lions and elephants doing tricks..

if there are no thrill rides where its only market stalls selling knicknacks and game stands like coconut shy and ball throwing at target stuff, the price of admission should be $5.

going up depending on number of activities and thrill rides available.
EG 3 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $10
EG 8 thrill rides and 50 market/gamestands $15

separately:
i see you have idea's for other votes.. um
fee's on food?

the word fee should never be mentioned.. all thats needed is premium pricing

EG buy a burger at mcdonalds costs $1 but at an event its $6 with no side fee mentioned.
that should be something a food vendor decides dependent on the location it will be done. EG if it were a county fair in the country, then dont expect millions of customers, if it was at a city edge then the food premium can be higher.. but again thats for the food vendor to decide.

i would recommend for around 4 major thrill rides, 8 smalls, and 30~40 market/gamestands.
i would recommend for $35~40 for infinite admission on thrill rides. ???

50% of disney world daily price? (if buying just 1 day) or 80% of disneyworld daily price (if buying a 5 daypay deal).. really?
id say $20 max unless the destination was offering something special or the rides were spectacular

honestly unless it offers 50%-80% of what disneyland can offer. then pricing should not be that high, as you would end up pricing people out of wanting to attend

just google 'county fair' and get average prices
eg http://lacf.com/visit/get-started

Weekdays                     Weekends   + Holidays
Adults, 13+                  $12.00         $20.00
Child, ages 6-12            $8.00         $12.00
Child, ages 5 and under   Free         Free
Seniors 60+                  $10.00      $15.00

eg http://www.sdfair.com/index.php?fuseaction=tickets.home
    Adults $15
    Age 62 and older $8
    Age 6-12 $8 (free on Tuesdays)
    Age 5 and younger free
to prevent getting considered that i am cheating the sig campaign, i have no choice but must to concentrate ~10 posts into 1 post with ~10 edits, please look at the upper thread and see what i just said. :)


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: franky1 on January 06, 2016, 02:05:06 PM
i see your edit and will occassionally recheck for updates so continue adding to existant posts if you desire.

all im saying is if you have an 'all inclusive' daypass for $30.. also have basic admission for $15 for adults $8 for kids

i would suggest you look into county fairs and research the attractions they offer. looking at who can supply them and locations you think will be good to host it.
as for making it a bitcoin county fair, the tickets could be an altcoin that are sent in-app to the rides. holding no value but used purely to indicate a attendee has a 'ticket' to go on the ride
where some of the games are technology based rather than 'ball and tin can' games..

what it might be best at first is to partner up with existing county fairs, allowing tickets to be bought via bitcoin. and having just a couple bitcoin centric game/market stands.. and then expand with experience until your ready to deal with the logistics of a full bitcoin centric fair

P.S, delete post #5 to not have as many posts on this topic, to help reduce the chance of you being banned from your sig campaign


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: knightkon on January 06, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
I have to say, i like the idea, but where are you planning to do this?  Are there not carnivals in the area where you are at that will interfere with this?  Most carnivals also not have internet access, so how will you successfully accept payment?


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Snorek on January 06, 2016, 02:44:04 PM
Creating real life Bitcoin Carnival is rather hard task. Bitcoin as a main theme of carnival is rather poor incentive for people.
I would rather see bitcoin being used as supplementary payment method on some great 'traditional' carnival than create bitcoin carnival exclusively.
The reason behind it - bitcoin is great - but mass public is not familiar with it to the point you will be earning from it, not to mention that you can lose a lot money on that project.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: CrimBit on January 06, 2016, 02:58:06 PM
vote for "free pizza" for each people who come at biitcoin carnival  ;D
this is good idea, i think this is make more people interesting about bitcoin


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 07, 2016, 03:15:21 AM
Creating real life Bitcoin Carnival is rather hard task. Bitcoin as a main theme of carnival is rather poor incentive for people.
I would rather see bitcoin being used as supplementary payment method on some great 'traditional' carnival than create bitcoin carnival exclusively.
The reason behind it - bitcoin is great - but mass public is not familiar with it to the point you will be earning from it, not to mention that you can lose a lot money on that project.
hmm, sure, i would guess we would need a reasonable price, but need to at least letting people to understand what is bitcoin in basic.
we mainly need popularity, not the fund. :)

I have to say, i like the idea, but where are you planning to do this?  Are there not carnivals in the area where you are at that will interfere with this?  Most carnivals also not have internet access, so how will you successfully accept payment?

if they have power supply, then we just need the internet access, because there are internet access around the carnival takes place. (in Hong Kong)

Well this is certainly one of the more original ideas I've seen, and I like it.  One thing they used to have at a small amusement park near me was a video game arcade, along with skeet-ball and those machines where you try to use a hook to grab a prize and another one where you move a lever to try to bump coins off a platform.  If I were going to a bitcoin carnival, I'd definitely like to see something like that as well as a candy corn vendor who had a giant QR code painted on his stall.

Not sure if this is ever going to happen, but good luck to you, sir.

if you have any idea, please add your own idea by editing your post, i would really wish to start a bitcoin carnival just like what we have around my region. :) for the QR code on the "candy corn vendor", surely easy to do; we need to accept fiat as their choice however. ???

What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.
in Hong Kong, my local region is in order to convince something, and there are not that much duties.
i would recommend majority of the thrill rides would be $3~5 per tries at 3~4 minutes once.

if it was a county fair type deal I would pay $10 bucks
maybe 15-20 and you throw in some game tickets or ride
tickets.
what kind of price would you recommend on the admission of each thrill rides?
the price of games (in general)? thanks. :)
this is a form of major county fair.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 07, 2016, 04:02:53 AM
Well this is certainly one of the more original ideas I've seen, and I like it.  One thing they used to have at a small amusement park near me was a video game arcade, along with skeet-ball and those machines where you try to use a hook to grab a prize and another one where you move a lever to try to bump coins off a platform.  If I were going to a bitcoin carnival, I'd definitely like to see something like that as well as a candy corn vendor who had a giant QR code painted on his stall.

Not sure if this is ever going to happen, but good luck to you, sir.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: HabBear on January 07, 2016, 05:30:09 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 07, 2016, 06:33:06 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.

L3X 0H8, not too far from where master-P is located in Aurora, Ontario, CA. L3X 0H8 was gleaned from one of lottery248's posts which have power supplies for sale, just like what master-P used to sell. Yes, lottery248 has distanced himself away from master-P, just like some of 100%-proven master-P sockpuppets have distanced themselves from Alex.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Rubberduckie on January 07, 2016, 06:57:23 AM
if it was a county fair type deal I would pay $10 bucks
maybe 15-20 and you throw in some game tickets or ride
tickets.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 08, 2016, 03:12:56 AM
so, can anyone here to provide some of the ideas about the admission fees?
unlike county fair, it is larger than it. and there are a lot of stuff which could be disputed. ???
i would recommend for $15 at this moment after reading the ideas.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: chennan on January 08, 2016, 03:21:20 AM
so, can anyone here to provide some of the ideas about the admission fees?
unlike county fair, it is larger than it. and there are a lot of stuff which could be disputed. ???
i would recommend for $15 at this moment after reading the ideas.

You can't just blindly say that you are going to charge a specific price for something like this and not know what it would cost to run such a thing.  You need the equipment, employees, space to hold carnival, etc.  Plus you have to think about the demand for such a carnival...

Think about it, you are planning on just holding your average carnival, but with the extra payment convenience of bitcoin.  Is the goal of creating the carnival for profit, or just the advertisement of Bitcoin in general? Where are you planning on holding it? Are there a lot of people in the area that use bitcoin and would like to go to a carnival? 

As you can see, there are a lot of things that can go wrong... especially if you're asking people to specifically pay in bitcoin (I know you said people can pay with USD for convenience... but it looks like you are specifically asking for people to use and accept bitcoin there.)

So, I guess to answer your question... maybe after you calculate all the costs, and still would want to go through with something like this... maybe you should charge higher prices for people who use USD, compared to people who would pay with bitcoin?


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: AgentofCoin on January 08, 2016, 03:28:44 AM
Can your carnival have fun clowns too?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3e/21/83/3e218342f44707e24689c459f6898c79.gif

I will only pay admission if there are fun clowns.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: jacee on January 08, 2016, 03:30:25 AM
With admission fee, the rides fee are covered with or not? If the rides are all covered then I voted for level ranges from $10 to $20, that is the alout of carnivals here in my country but some of the attrations have a separate admission so you have to pay for it separately if youcwant yo try it like some booths.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 08, 2016, 03:40:14 AM

not to joke, but your "clown" isn't good to children when they saw it.

so, can anyone here to provide some of the ideas about the admission fees?
unlike county fair, it is larger than it. and there are a lot of stuff which could be disputed. ???
i would recommend for $15 at this moment after reading the ideas.

You can't just blindly say that you are going to charge a specific price for something like this and not know what it would cost to run such a thing.  You need the equipment, employees, space to hold carnival, etc.  Plus you have to think about the demand for such a carnival...

Think about it, you are planning on just holding your average carnival, but with the extra payment convenience of bitcoin.  Is the goal of creating the carnival for profit, or just the advertisement of Bitcoin in general? Where are you planning on holding it? Are there a lot of people in the area that use bitcoin and would like to go to a carnival?  

As you can see, there are a lot of things that can go wrong... especially if you're asking people to specifically pay in bitcoin (I know you said people can pay with USD for convenience... but it looks like you are specifically asking for people to use and accept bitcoin there.)

So, I guess to answer your question... maybe after you calculate all the costs, and still would want to go through with something like this... maybe you should charge higher prices for people who use USD, compared to people who would pay with bitcoin?

hmm, seems legit. lemme calculate for that matter...
in fact, the bitcoin carnival isn't used to gain profits, it is used to promote bitcoin instead. we want to carry out fun on that carnival, and not to take them much. although the budget would be around hundreds of million (as estimated), we need to imitate the county fair to promote that places, and the bitcoin.

asking people to use and accept bitcoin is the main reason to hold this carnival, since it is "bitcoin" carnival. we could accept fiat at the higher price? it could be dangerous on the popularity.

(subject to addition)

With admission fee, the rides fee are covered with or not? If the rides are all covered then I voted for level ranges from $10 to $20, that is the alout of carnivals here in my country but some of the attrations have a separate admission so you have to pay for it separately if youcwant yo try it like some booths.
i originally expected (not set) the price to $25~30 since i would expect all of the rides are covered; more people to try on the thrill rides = less relative costs.
we don't want too much commission on the thrill ride admission.  :-\


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: chennan on January 08, 2016, 03:55:14 AM

With admission fee, the rides fee are covered with or not? If the rides are all covered then I voted for level ranges from $10 to $20, that is the alout of carnivals here in my country but some of the attrations have a separate admission so you have to pay for it separately if youcwant yo try it like some booths.
i originally expected (not set) the price to $25~30 since i would expect all of the rides are covered; more people to try on the thrill rides = less relative costs.
we don't want too much commission on the thrill ride admission.  :-\

That's true I guess... I guess to get people attracted to come to such a "bitcoin carnival" is a task itself, but maybe if you take jacee's idea of having separate booths to try some fun side games besides the thrill rides (you usually see this kind of stuff with games where you throw a baseball to knock over bottles, or darts at balloons, or whatever) and make them somewhat bitcoin oriented in a way, plus try and have the payment be done in bitcoin somehow...

I could see a pretty cool game you can make, by trying to incorporate throwing blocks to stick on a "chain" of some sort, maybe? ::)

Edit: also, this thread maybe more suitable in the "service discussion" section.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: xhomerx10 on January 08, 2016, 04:04:37 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.

L3X 0H8, not too far from where master-P is located in Aurora, Ontario, CA. L3X 0H8 was gleaned from one of lottery248's posts which have power supplies for sale, just like what master-P used to sell. Yes, lottery248 has distanced himself away from master-P, just like some of 100%-proven master-P sockpuppets have distanced themselves from Alex.

 Actually L3X 0H8 is located in Newmarket (close to but not Aurora).  Newmarket is only ~28km (~18mi) from Canada's Wonderland where for only $40 CAD ($28 USD) you can have an amazing time and not risk losing any bitcoin unless you're carrying Casascius or Lealana on the "Flight Deck"; with 5 inversions and an Immelmann loop at 50mph, you're sure to lose everything in your pockets and possibly your lunch faster than you can say "scam".  So yeah, L3X 0H8 is too risky a venture.  Stay away!


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 08, 2016, 07:33:29 AM
so, can anyone here to provide some of the ideas about the admission fees?
unlike county fair, it is larger than it. and there are a lot of stuff which could be disputed. ???
i would recommend for $15 at this moment after reading the ideas.

$15 USD or Canadian? Can I call you Alex?


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: TipZ on January 08, 2016, 08:02:49 AM
When people talk about carnival I just can't imagine what you guys are talking about.

Where I live we do it this way, every week end for like 2 month !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vzD9MJXmCo


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: franky1 on January 08, 2016, 08:08:41 AM
firstly, i think asking for admission fee is hard because you do not yet know how many actual attractions would turn up.

unless you organize and research what attraction operators are available in the area, its impossible to promise how big or small it will be.
especially if you are promising something bigger than a county fair,

for instance some county fairs have 40 fun rides (http://www.sdfair.com/index.php?fuseaction=attractions.rides_games)

car shows
animal shows
music stages

so i think you need to look harder at what a hong kong carnival can offer, which would then lead you to know if its appropriate to charge more than an american county fair, or even 50%-80% of disneyworld.

so look harder at what will definetly be achievable to be present. starting with locations. EG a small field cant hold as much stuff as multiple fields next to each other.

and another idea would be if there was a building big enough for conferences or a soundstage so that you can host a bitcoin conference there at the same time. right next to the large field to cover the space needed to host the attractions

summary
so i would suggest you start with where, then what, and then re-evaluate how much later.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: bitlancr on January 08, 2016, 08:26:03 AM
Where would you be holding this carnival? I think you'd have to also think about cost and the people you're going to hire to do this. Will you be paying them out in btc or fiat? It sounds like a nice idea if you're trying to make more people aware about bitcoin. Not sure as to how this would work out with bitcoins if not that many people in your area know about it.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: franky1 on January 08, 2016, 08:29:01 AM
When people talk about carnival I just can't imagine what you guys are talking about.

Where I live we do it this way, every week end for like 2 month !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vzD9MJXmCo

in america a carnival is more like a circus tent with clowns and animal tricks
in the uk a carnival is a street procession of decorated flatbed trailers with themes and walking bands and stuff going down the main streets of a town.

im not sure what hong kongs version of a carnival is.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 08, 2016, 08:31:34 AM
firstly, i think asking for admission fee is hard because you do not yet know how many actual attractions would turn up.

unless you organize and research what attraction operators are available in the area, its impossible to promise how big or small it will be.
especially if you are promising something bigger than a county fair,

for instance some county fairs have 40 fun rides (http://www.sdfair.com/index.php?fuseaction=attractions.rides_games)

car shows
animal shows
music stages

so i think you need to look harder at what a hong kong carnival can offer, which would then lead you to know if its appropriate to charge more than an american county fair, or even 50%-80% of disneyworld.

so look harder at what will definetly be achievable to be present. starting with locations. EG a small field cant hold as much stuff as multiple fields next to each other.

and another idea would be if there was a building big enough for conferences or a soundstage so that you can host a bitcoin conference there at the same time. right next to the large field to cover the space needed to host the attractions

summary
so i would suggest you start with where, then what, and then re-evaluate how much later.

sure, let's start to talk about it from here.
in fact i need to do much more research than in America, we don't have much people to afford such a $30 admission fee, $10 would require us to pay the cost and ask the guests to pay for the rides; not all of the people could afford it. would $15 be better? ???

FYI we have the worst carnival based on the charge ever: that Tung Wah charity carnival in that former Kai Tak airport; as you can see one of the thrill rides called tourbillion charges HKD$120 (~$15) to admit one but not even lasts for 2 minutes. although it is the world-first used and costs around 2 million euros, the charge is still too high to admit.

Where would you be holding this carnival? I think you'd have to also think about cost and the people you're going to hire to do this. Will you be paying them out in btc or fiat? It sounds like a nice idea if you're trying to make more people aware about bitcoin. Not sure as to how this would work out with bitcoins if not that many people in your area know about it.

we would use bitcoin if they accept, we won't force people to accept bitcoin, that is their choice.
just add either bonus or discount on paying bitcoin in parts or even full.

When people talk about carnival I just can't imagine what you guys are talking about.

Where I live we do it this way, every week end for like 2 month !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vzD9MJXmCo

in america a carnival is more like a circus tent with clowns and animal tricks
in the uk a carnival is a street procession of decorated flatbed trailers with themes and walking bands and stuff going down the main streets of a town.

im not sure what hong kongs version of a carnival is.

like this. www.tgec.asia


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Kprawn on January 08, 2016, 09:15:07 AM
I like this idea a lot.. you will have to include the fiat option.. in some countries a "Bitcoin only" option might be illegal. You will be prosecuted if you offer only Bitcoin payment

for services or goods. The national currency is still the big dog. A token system might be the way to go for this... the confirmation time, might be a issue... when you make

direct payments for rides. The alternative might be to use a service like Xapo and have all the transactions "offline" for instant transactions. Just setup a booth and help people

to create a Xapo account or even a Bitcoin wallet as a added free service.  ::) That would help a lot with adoption. 


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Noriyuke on January 08, 2016, 09:26:16 AM
I think your going to have to build a system to help incentivize the Bitcoin Aspect to your Carnival. I believe a system similar to Dave and Busters or Boomers will help you build proper revenue from small time stuff like what your more or less offering. Something like Allowing Fiat as well as Bitcoin but offering a significant discount for using Bitcoin only. Maybe a 40% markup? Dave and Busters used to charge a certain amount for tokens and such to play the games, but whenever they upgraded the machines with card readers they gave stupid discounts for "Game Time" cards. That way they were able to sell off the token machines to old bowling alleys and such, i go to a laundromat that uses a Boomers Token machine to dispense change. besides that, in all honesty if you expect to charge a high dollar amount for the entrance you need to have a Legit ass carnival, like clowns elephants, all that. And potentially some amazing rides that can build to suit. They have some cool roller coasters that like go and then come back that can be rented i believe. But its like millions. But if its going to similar to a county fair then you have to keep it under 20 or else no one will care.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: LuckyYOU on January 08, 2016, 09:27:49 AM
Sounds like a very nice and neat idea.
I've never went to a carnival where I had to pay admission though.
Every carnival I went to has been free to enter. I would only have to pay for the rides and whatever attraction I wanted to get into
So to make it fair, I would probably pay about $10 - $20 dollars, but I would expect some kind of compensation within the carnival
Such things as discounts


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: franky1 on January 08, 2016, 10:01:10 AM
I think your going to have to build a system to help incentivize the Bitcoin Aspect to your Carnival. I believe a system similar to Dave and Busters or Boomers will help you build proper revenue from small time stuff like what your more or less offering. Something like Allowing Fiat as well as Bitcoin but offering a significant discount for using Bitcoin only. Maybe a 40% markup?

doesnt have to be discount.. could be something like "queue jumping", or front row seats for shows, extended ride times. bigger teddybear prize for knocking over all 3 tin-cans. etc etc

making bitcoin feel more of a VIP currency rather than a less valuable discount voucher


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Bitcoinbro on January 08, 2016, 10:07:38 AM
Interesting idea, I like this idea. I would probably pay around $10 - $20
I think if you would go over $20 for admission that it would be a bit expensive for just a carnival.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 09, 2016, 01:40:02 AM
Interesting idea, I like this idea. I would probably pay around $10 - $20
I think if you would go over $20 for admission that it would be a bit expensive for just a carnival.
$15 is normal, $40 (in total) covers all of the thrill rides. :)
and for that matter, we would need to flexibly accept fiat and cryptographicals together.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 09, 2016, 01:51:08 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.

L3X 0H8, not too far from where master-P is located in Aurora, Ontario, CA. L3X 0H8 was gleaned from one of lottery248's posts which have power supplies for sale, just like what master-P used to sell. Yes, lottery248 has distanced himself away from master-P, just like some of 100%-proven master-P sockpuppets have distanced themselves from Alex.
That would be one hell of a drive for me, but I think I'd come up there just for the drama.  And fried dough.  A good carnival must have fried dough.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 09, 2016, 01:56:11 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.

L3X 0H8, not too far from where master-P is located in Aurora, Ontario, CA. L3X 0H8 was gleaned from one of lottery248's posts which have power supplies for sale, just like what master-P used to sell. Yes, lottery248 has distanced himself away from master-P, just like some of 100%-proven master-P sockpuppets have distanced themselves from Alex.
That would be one hell of a drive for me, but I think I'd come up there just for the drama.  And fried dough.  A good carnival must have fried dough.
L3X 0H8 isn't even suitable to setup a bitcoin carnival for that matter, the area avaliable is too low. :(
gleb i would wish you not to joke excessively here.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: neochiny on January 09, 2016, 02:05:40 AM
This idea is very nice.
however is the admission your telling is only for entrance?
and the rides fees is separate? If so, I choose the cheapest.
because At first you really need to invest money. almost all people
will just ignore the carnival. As they dont know how the payment process is.
But if you give them a very cheap price for beginning of your carnival.
They may be considered using bitcoin as payments as its very cheap.
Then after a long run, you can increase it little by little. As if they will not even notice it.
As for your profit, you can still have profit. its like. cheap but many. or high fees but few.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: nichu on January 09, 2016, 03:05:50 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.

L3X 0H8, not too far from where master-P is located in Aurora, Ontario, CA. L3X 0H8 was gleaned from one of lottery248's posts which have power supplies for sale, just like what master-P used to sell. Yes, lottery248 has distanced himself away from master-P, just like some of 100%-proven master-P sockpuppets have distanced themselves from Alex.

so, can anyone here to provide some of the ideas about the admission fees?
unlike county fair, it is larger than it. and there are a lot of stuff which could be disputed. ???
i would recommend for $15 at this moment after reading the ideas.

$15 USD or Canadian? Can I call you Alex?

Yeah i guess u can call him  ;D  i like the beef going around the carnival  :P

As for the fest sure  its a good idea, for starters admission must be free for a certain time or dollar an hour  ;D because i have being to shit fairs paying money and the feeling you gets after that is cannot be explained :D, if the fest catches the attention then you can increase your price.



Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Bitware on January 09, 2016, 04:24:36 AM
Admissions fees for carnivals and fairs are why the attendance and profits are so low. Stop charging admission fees and more people will come to spend more $ with your product and service vendors, who are already paying for space.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 09, 2016, 04:34:27 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.

L3X 0H8, not too far from where master-P is located in Aurora, Ontario, CA. L3X 0H8 was gleaned from one of lottery248's posts which have power supplies for sale, just like what master-P used to sell. Yes, lottery248 has distanced himself away from master-P, just like some of 100%-proven master-P sockpuppets have distanced themselves from Alex.
That would be one hell of a drive for me, but I think I'd come up there just for the drama.  And fried dough.  A good carnival must have fried dough.
L3X 0H8 isn't even suitable to setup a bitcoin carnival for that matter, the area avaliable is too low. :(
gleb i would wish you not to joke excessively here.

I apologize. I misread the post by you because of the sentence structure: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13452849;topicseen#msg13452849

I'll safely assume you live in the US, thus ask, as others have, exactly where would such a carnival take place?


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Yakamoto on January 09, 2016, 04:49:21 AM
Admissions fees for carnivals and fairs are why the attendance and profits are so low. Stop charging admission fees and more people will come to spend more $ with your product and service vendors, who are already paying for space.
Yeah, this is what it some carnivals seem to fail at understanding. If you charge a bit more for the physical space used by vendors, and charge less to get people to enter the carnival, they'll spend way more. But the carnival probably understands the economics of it better than I do, so I'll let them do the admission fees.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 09, 2016, 04:51:09 AM
Admissions fees for carnivals and fairs are why the attendance and profits are so low. Stop charging admission fees and more people will come to spend more $ with your product and service vendors, who are already paying for space.

Most all carnivals here in Illinois are free to attend, with purchase of tickets given to ride operators for riding on so that patrons don't have to worry about being short-changed by those considered society's lower class handling actual moneys - patrons trusting a central [on-site] local to purchase their ticket allotments. Operators and vendors pay the organizer to participate predicated on if it's profitable and schedules, the latter with most having their calendar filled at least a year in advance unless they are just starting up.

The more prestigious the event (carnival, in this case), the higher the fees are for vendors and operators to set up. Food vendors charge what they feel the local market can bear, taking into consideration, again, vendor fees, and the distance they have to travel to attend. If inclimate weather is forecast, vendors will back out at the last minute unless it affects participating in subsequent years due to not showing, whereupon another vendor in line takes their place, paying in advance to lock in participation.

Insurance and bond costs are major considerations when planning such an event.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: EXtremeAEX on January 09, 2016, 07:15:54 AM
A Bitcoin carnival sounds interesting to me, where everything is bitcoin related. I agree that the admission price should be free, so that outside people can come take a look, and perhaps get interested in it too. Use the idea of buying tickets to play, where every ride/stall uses the tickets as the currency instead, maybe a limited bitcoin token will do too. :)

You should charge cheaper for the tickets for those who buy it bitcoin, and there could be rewards in the carnival too, like if you win a game you get 1 bitcoin reward token that can be used to exchange for more tickets, or real bitcoin!! This could be an incentive, to win, but make sure its not that easy! :P Supporting you for creating a bitcoin carnival, all the best!


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Kprawn on January 09, 2016, 08:24:29 AM
A Bitcoin carnival sounds interesting to me, where everything is bitcoin related. I agree that the admission price should be free, so that outside people can come take a look, and perhaps get interested in it too. Use the idea of buying tickets to play, where every ride/stall uses the tickets as the currency instead, maybe a limited bitcoin token will do too. :)

You should charge cheaper for the tickets for those who buy it bitcoin, and there could be rewards in the carnival too, like if you win a game you get 1 bitcoin reward token that can be used to exchange for more tickets, or real bitcoin!! This could be an incentive, to win, but make sure its not that easy! :P Supporting you for creating a bitcoin carnival, all the best!

A monetary reward, could classify it as a gambling operation and that comes with it's own licensing requirements. These licenses will make it too expensive to operate. I would

much rather work on a token system, where you could exchange tokens for "fluffy" toys. You make a excellent point in giving discounted rates for Bitcoin payments, and this

would be a perfect incentive for adoption.  ;D


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: EdenHazard on January 09, 2016, 09:49:41 AM
vote for "free pizza" for each people who come at biitcoin carnival  ;D
this is good idea, i think this is make more people interesting about bitcoin
i agree with that,such a good idea,everyone love pizza,and they can get information about bitcoin with pizza in their hands ;D
and also its will welcoming to every age,lets hope bitcoin can accept by everyone in this world.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Erkallys on January 09, 2016, 11:31:47 AM
A good idea would be to organize this about a theme, like pirats. Then you could organize pirats-related activities and sell pirats food (not need to be real pirat food, but you can do cakes that have the shap of ships for exemple). The best advantage of having a theme would be that you would be able to sell your tickets to enter at a bigger price that you could in a normal carnival.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: xhomerx10 on January 09, 2016, 01:39:53 PM
A good idea would be to organize this about a theme, like pirats. Then you could organize pirats-related activities and sell pirats food (not need to be real pirat food, but you can do cakes that have the shap of ships for exemple). The best advantage of having a theme would be that you would be able to sell your tickets to enter at a bigger price that you could in a normal carnival.

 Interesting concept but is it a  good idea to focus the carnival on the negative aspects of Bitcoin while charging more than normal for an entry fee? It's not very subtle. How many times can that work on people?!   Do we even know what pirats eat?  Perhaps limes? The only pirat(e)s that come to mind are pirateat40 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35827) who will be sentenced to jail time on February 3rd, 2016 and altoid (aka dread pirate Roberts) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3905) I'm pretty sure they're not allowed to have contact with anything bitcoin or anything remotely investment related right now but we might be able to ask them what pirat(e)s eat.  At this point in their lives, I would imagine they just eat "jail food" three times a day but jail food probably wouldn't be a big draw at a carnival.  I'm sure there are many more pirates her; they just don't refer to themselves as "pirate".   Hey pirates! What do you eat?  Feel free to weigh in as an alt.



Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Erkallys on January 09, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
A good idea would be to organize this about a theme, like pirats. Then you could organize pirats-related activities and sell pirats food (not need to be real pirat food, but you can do cakes that have the shap of ships for exemple). The best advantage of having a theme would be that you would be able to sell your tickets to enter at a bigger price that you could in a normal carnival.

 Interesting concept but is it a  good idea to focus the carnival on the negative aspects of Bitcoin while charging more than normal for an entry fee? It's not very subtle. How many times can that work on people?!   Do we even know what pirats eat?  Perhaps limes? The only pirat(e)s that come to mind are pirateat40 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35827) who will be sentenced to jail time on February 3rd, 2016 and altoid (aka dread pirate Roberts) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3905) I'm pretty sure they're not allowed to have contact with anything bitcoin or anything remotely investment related right now but we might be able to ask them what pirat(e)s eat.  At this point in their lives, I would imagine they just eat "jail food" three times a day but jail food probably wouldn't be a big draw at a carnival.  I'm sure there are many more pirates her; they just don't refer to themselves as "pirate".   Hey pirates! What do you eat?  Feel free to weigh in as an alt.



Funny text :D. When I meant pirates I meant historical pirates, like Black Beard. But after all, this was a suggestion. You can do it about knights if this a problem.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 09, 2016, 09:25:46 PM
I'm not a hacker, but I can easily envision a rogue entity frequenting such an event for the sole purpose of sniffing packets. A conference is one thing where most patrons are versed in protecting their hardware, whereas an outing enjoyed by less tech-savvy folks becomes enjoyment for those feeding off said folks.

Not dissing the endeavor, but we must take all things into consideration, OP.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: BTCBinary on January 09, 2016, 10:47:40 PM
i am gonna concentrate some of the replies in a post, so i will edit a lot in one post, you may see my reply at the earlier post instead of new one, i do not cheat the sign campaign in my thread. :)
so i would wish to plan a form of bitcoin related carnival, with what you have in the major fair like pirate ship, so-called game booths.

probably, it should mainly accept bitcoin as payment, but we would allow fiat to convince people as well. ???
what should we plan about it? like:

  • games/ prize of games
  • thrill rides
  • family rides
  • admission fees
  • the system
  • the foodstuffs
  • so on

if you have any idea, please post some of the good ideas here. if the plan did a success, it could even make that kind of carnival into a true form. (unlikely, but depends on the range of success.) i would add up everyone's opinion when possible.

voting of idea plan(PM me if i forgot to post result here):
  • admission price 6/1~10/1
  • average game booth fees 10/1~13/1
  • prices on food (part 1) 13/1~16/1
  • part 2 16/1~19/1
  • thrill rides? 19/1~22/1
  • further voting coming soon

please move this thread into a proper thread if i did it wrong here.

That is a great idea. I really think that you should work on it and try to set it up. I'm sure the whole community will be there to help you!


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 10, 2016, 12:10:12 AM
i am gonna concentrate some of the replies in a post, so i will edit a lot in one post, you may see my reply at the earlier post instead of new one, i do not cheat the sign campaign in my thread. :)
so i would wish to plan a form of bitcoin related carnival, with what you have in the major fair like pirate ship, so-called game booths.

probably, it should mainly accept bitcoin as payment, but we would allow fiat to convince people as well. ???
what should we plan about it? like:

  • games/ prize of games
  • thrill rides
  • family rides
  • admission fees
  • the system
  • the foodstuffs
  • so on

if you have any idea, please post some of the good ideas here. if the plan did a success, it could even make that kind of carnival into a true form. (unlikely, but depends on the range of success.) i would add up everyone's opinion when possible.

voting of idea plan(PM me if i forgot to post result here):
  • admission price 6/1~10/1
  • average game booth fees 10/1~13/1
  • prices on food (part 1) 13/1~16/1
  • part 2 16/1~19/1
  • thrill rides? 19/1~22/1
  • further voting coming soon

please move this thread into a proper thread if i did it wrong here.

That is a great idea. I really think that you should work on it and try to set it up. I'm sure the whole community will be there to help you!
many thanks. :)


i am gonna change the vote soon, stay tuned. if you are wishing to vote, then go for it as soon as possible.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 11, 2016, 10:39:04 AM
bump.

we should probably have a lucky draw in the carnival, with the high-demand prizes like iPhone, admission ticket on the rides and for the game booths, etc. which should be higher than expected profit AFAIK.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: franky1 on January 11, 2016, 10:46:57 AM
bump.

we should probably have a lucky draw in the carnival, with the high-demand prizes like iPhone, admission ticket on the rides and for the game booths, etc. which should be higher than expected profit AFAIK.

after reading other idea's and comments.
just entry admittance should be under $15.. and people then separately pay for rides they want
but also have the day pass that includes a number of rides, etc for a higher price (obviously more then just entry, but less than 50% of disneyworld)

if people choose to pay via bitcoin. it still costs the same amount of fiat to buy the amount of bitcoin needed(no discount).. but its a VIP day pass, allowing for better prizes on game stands, better seating at shows. longer rides, queue jumping, etc.. maybe even a free pizza slice.

try not to make bitcoin seem like a discount currency, but an exclusive VIP status currency

afterall the ticket stands handling fiat are gonna make losses. EG employing people an extra couple hours after gates close to count up the bank notes and take them to a bank. where they find they lost a bit of fiat from ticket staff giving the wrong change etc (you know standard fiat problems)
so its better to give customers some extra's for using bitcoin as it reduces time/cost waste by not needing to handle fiat

as i said before you might want to partner up with existing events/carnivals/county fair organizers so that you can dip your toe in the water without having all the headaches of fully managing one.. then once comfortable.. then organize your own


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: EXtremeAEX on January 11, 2016, 01:11:13 PM
Hmm, I have no experiences is the cost managing and all, so I don't know the budget and expenses... Maybe since this is the first bitcoin carnival you're going to have, I think starting out small would be better, and it raises awareness of this bitcoin carnival thing, which should be the first goal. :)

Start of with a few cotton candy carts, ring toss, those typical games, but bitcoin themed. Like there could be a bitcoin plinko game, knock down the 'bitcoin', something like that. The admission fee should be low, or even free, to attract everyone's attention. It might be loss, since you have to set up quite a few stuff, and rent the land I guess.. Rides would be difficult, but it'll be nice if there was. Quite tough to make this a reality, hope everyone supports this!


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 12, 2016, 07:41:27 AM
Hmm, I have no experiences is the cost managing and all, so I don't know the budget and expenses... Maybe since this is the first bitcoin carnival you're going to have, I think starting out small would be better, and it raises awareness of this bitcoin carnival thing, which should be the first goal. :)

Start of with a few cotton candy carts, ring toss, those typical games, but bitcoin themed. Like there could be a bitcoin plinko game, knock down the 'bitcoin', something like that. The admission fee should be low, or even free, to attract everyone's attention. It might be loss, since you have to set up quite a few stuff, and rent the land I guess.. Rides would be difficult, but it'll be nice if there was. Quite tough to make this a reality, hope everyone supports this!

i would expect that a small bitcoin carnival could be good, however it wouldn't help better to promote bitcoin i guess.
if i had a complete plan about the carnival, more likely it would be funded well because this could likely spread bitcoin out. admission fee could be really low as long as we could make a little profit and lets people to start to use bitcoin; free admission isn't eve possible unless we were assisted. in fact if i start this carnival project today, it could be finished within the March and publish on the same day. i would believe that the thrill rides could be a question because every single ride requires an authorization license. ???


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 12, 2016, 10:03:37 AM
What a great idea!

So where would this fantastic festival be located? I hope I can make it...I'd easily pay $10-20.

L3X 0H8, not too far from where master-P is located in Aurora, Ontario, CA. L3X 0H8 was gleaned from one of lottery248's posts which have power supplies for sale, just like what master-P used to sell. Yes, lottery248 has distanced himself away from master-P, just like some of 100%-proven master-P sockpuppets have distanced themselves from Alex.
That would be one hell of a drive for me, but I think I'd come up there just for the drama.  And fried dough.  A good carnival must have fried dough.
L3X 0H8 isn't even suitable to setup a bitcoin carnival for that matter, the area avaliable is too low. :(
gleb i would wish you not to joke excessively here.

I apologize. I misread the post by you because of the sentence structure: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13452849;topicseen#msg13452849

I'll safely assume you live in the US, thus ask, as others have, exactly where would such a carnival take place?
i live in hong kong, as you can see. :-/
there are some of the places like central zone to setup a carnival like TGEC just did, we could take place there.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: LuckyYOU on January 12, 2016, 02:05:56 PM
Nice, I see you're keeping this thread updated, very nice.
I really do hope you will pursue this one day.

Since in this case, I would already be paying an entry fee,
I would have to vote for either $2 or $3


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 13, 2016, 03:39:25 AM
Nice, I see you're keeping this thread updated, very nice.
I really do hope you will pursue this one day.

Since in this case, I would already be paying an entry fee,
I would have to vote for either $2 or $3

sorry dude, this is a fee about the game booths.  :-\
fine if you have voted, however it won't be a good deal on that price, would you think so? ???


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Yakamoto on January 13, 2016, 04:50:38 AM
Nice, I see you're keeping this thread updated, very nice.
I really do hope you will pursue this one day.

Since in this case, I would already be paying an entry fee,
I would have to vote for either $2 or $3

sorry dude, this is a fee about the game booths.  :-\
fine if you have voted, however it won't be a good deal on that price, would you think so? ???
The fee would all depend on how hard the game is supposed to be, and how much it would cost to have the prizes available.

If the game was hard, you could make it cost $1 so more people would be inclined to try it, but if it was easier it should cost whatever amount more.

If the game seems to be too easy, change it out or ramp up the cost. Whatever is needed to make a profit.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Kakmakr on January 13, 2016, 05:59:17 AM
Admission fee's are usually implemented to control the type of people you want to attract. The higher admission fee, exclude some of the lower income groups and you would get people with a higher income bracket. The goal is to make money and if you attract tons of feet with empty pockets, you will make less money.

You should consider what group of people you want to target and base your decision on that. I do not like exclusion based on income, but rather exposure to everyone for the purpose of adoption to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 13, 2016, 06:03:40 AM
Admission fee's are usually implemented to control the type of people you want to attract. The higher admission fee, exclude some of the lower income groups and you would get people with a higher income bracket. The goal is to make money and if you attract tons of feet with empty pockets, you will make less money.

You should consider what group of people you want to target and base your decision on that. I do not like exclusion based on income, but rather exposure to everyone for the purpose of adoption to Bitcoin.

i do not charge people a high price now, we would need people to start understanding bitcoin - that's the goal, we use thrill rides to attract people to join this carnival. we could decrease the price but would really need much more people to admit that carnival. ???


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Erkallys on January 13, 2016, 04:48:08 PM
Admission fee's are usually implemented to control the type of people you want to attract. The higher admission fee, exclude some of the lower income groups and you would get people with a higher income bracket. The goal is to make money and if you attract tons of feet with empty pockets, you will make less money.

You should consider what group of people you want to target and base your decision on that. I do not like exclusion based on income, but rather exposure to everyone for the purpose of adoption to Bitcoin.

i do not charge people a high price now, we would need people to start understanding bitcoin - that's the goal, we use thrill rides to attract people to join this carnival. we could decrease the price but would really need much more people to admit that carnival. ???

You could parter with your city administration to have some financial helps. They could offer discount to the poorer people that would like to go to your event. If your mayor is a socialist, talking about the equality of everyone about this numeric revolution is your best bet ;). However, you'll have to convince him first that Bitcoin is fantastic, which could not be easy :-\...


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: iv4n on January 13, 2016, 05:17:10 PM
vote for "free pizza" for each people who come at biitcoin carnival  ;D
this is good idea, i think this is make more people interesting about bitcoin
i agree with that,such a good idea,everyone love pizza,and they can get information about bitcoin with pizza in their hands ;D
and also its will welcoming to every age,lets hope bitcoin can accept by everyone in this world.

Not just pizza, there is many other things beside that. There is also many more games on carnevals u just need to replace payment currency.
I have no idea how much entry can be, that depends from offers there. For me personaly games are important, some buy in with some little prizes. That makes everythin more interesting.
Wish u good luck with this project, I will follow this topic I`m interested to see how it will be.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: kheein on January 13, 2016, 06:00:34 PM
I like your idea . Well everyone will like the presence of the carnival . children until adulthood like a carnival . I think the price of tickets for children and adults differentiated . and there must also be a special discount when buying the tickets directly using bitcoin . and at the carnaval every transaction using bitcoin.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 14, 2016, 08:53:08 AM
we are now having new vote about the pricing on the food, please vote for your opinion. :)
i would recommend for $10 at maximum with one dish and a can of soda as my opinion.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 15, 2016, 02:56:47 AM
bump.

if i receive enough suggestion, then i will try to develop a real one as a project so people will gotta try for the world-first bitcoin carnival.
unlike most of the carnivals, this would need support by majority of the bitcoiners in order  to get this carnival to real.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: fuathan on January 15, 2016, 04:13:38 AM
In a bitcoin carnival, everything should purchase with btc. :)

Most of the works should be done volunteerly with community's members. 


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: dhimasnk on January 15, 2016, 06:16:32 AM
bitcoin carnival ? good idea. with it we can introduce bitcoin


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 17, 2016, 03:17:42 AM
bump. as we don't have enough voters, i just have extended the voting.
please not just appreciate my idea, please leave your idea regarding this carnival concept as well so i will be able to do the project if i can.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: Jeremycoin on January 17, 2016, 04:38:01 AM
$5 and below is the best price for the food and drinks, cuz not everyone bring a lot of money to go there.


Title: Re: idea of creating a bitcoin carnival.
Post by: lottery248 on January 18, 2016, 08:37:01 AM
here is some of the point we may need to think about the pricing of the food:
if our admission price was too low, then it would be hard to break even at the selling.
if our admission price was too high, maybe we would decrease the price of the food to maximize the visitors.

hiring external food sellers would be good to minimize the expenditure.


$5 and below is the best price for the food and drinks, cuz not everyone bring a lot of money to go there.
this could be a barrier that if we have to do it all ourselves. ???