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There's been some heavy volatility in the past few weeks and months for SPY. This is largely in contrast to the huge bull market from 2009-2015.

The previous times have had similar huge bull markets for 4-6 years, followed by a massive correction


What do you guys think? Will you guys stock up on Bitcoin and gold?  ;D

Stock markets are massively rigged and MUST come down once every x amount of years. If you look at the first wave, then you can see there was a massive sell-off starting at the 120 line, and it went down to just under the 100 line. After that it still peaked to where you have positioned the #1. We might see the same thing happen here.

The graph you have posted shows the similar pattern getting start this year also, i think this will bring more eye towards bitcoin after seeing steady rising graph.

A correction occurs when the allocation of assets gets too hot and overvalues the underlying securities. On average, a 10% correction happens about once every two years, and a 20% correction happens about every five years. It's not the end of the world. It's happened before and it will happen again.

It will crash this year. it has been riding an up wave for way too long.

Now the fun discussion is why big crashes like this matter at all since it's all play money and made up numbers

When US stock markets should crash, the others will crash as well.
I think last year and the year before, the first week was also a negative one but no crash happened.
But sooner or later we will see a stronger correction due to the least years bull run.Maybe 2016 is the year it will happen.

Stock markets goes with it's ups and downs as well like bitcoin.
They are known to bounce back up though

It's been going up for a very long time
I think it's about time that it comes back down
I'm pretty sure that these stock markets are able to recover from it

signs are pointing to yes. atleast they raised the rates finally. this will be a very interesting year for sure

The graph does not look good and maybe the us stock market can crash this year, but there will be still a solution to cover the loss as always.

Who knows, everytime you think the US is gona collapse and the bankers think up some other way to keep the ponzi going....... ;)

If say the US stock markets crash this year will this unfortunate event affect the bitcoin price in any way what do you guys think about that? I would think it will lower the price?

The signs clearly show the dollar is not stable anymore. Which so much debt the stock markets eventually will be affected by this negative news.
So yes, a mini crash is going to happen, but not a big crash

I belive that gold is a good investment ;) so it can be bitcoin ;)


The signals are all there

Absolutely. If the equities market crashes, people will flee to safety, which means US treasuries and cash, and they will be fleeing from the most risky assets. Bitcoin is far riskier than equities as a whole, so you can expect high levels of financial uncertainty to sink the equities and bitcoin market.

Crash possible,sell of very real,last session was significant,usa stocks went down in last trading hour
Ecnomic data will be important,,if good stocks down,if bad stocks will keep level or go up a little

I don't know if the US Stock Market will crash or not but because of disturbance in China's exports and reserves will have huge impact on all stock exchanges all over the world.Some experts already have indicated the danger of an another recession same bad as was of 2008.This year will be uncertain for world economy and stock exchanges because of many elements.

It seems that this will most likely to happen in this year.US economy is not stable and so many worldly affairs on which US Stock exchange is dependent will take it down too with them.All markets can sink in 2016 on this I do agree.

The markets definitely took a hit after the Chinese markets closed. The downward trend may definitely continue, but I see this as an opportunity to buy stocks. When the price goes down, they will most certainly go back up. This is what I did when Bitcoin crashed to $190. Same situation here.

I told you. I've been warning people. I told you.

What goes down is not guaranteed to go back up, but on the whole I agree with you that drops in prices create opportunities. Opportunities only though.

Very good point.  You are right, people flee the stock market to safer assets.  However, I'm not sure gold & silver are the greatest investment--but now might actually be the time to buy, as precious metals have been in the crapper for about 5 years now.  People definitely wouldn't flee to bitcoin.

Gold is a common place people flee to, but US treasuries are more common. Whether this is a good or bad thing can be debated, and the merits of the assessment as well, but treasuries are widely regarded as the safest investment on Earth, and have a history of being so as well. During a flight to safety, money pours into them.

The US stock has drop to 16000 recently. It is due to the profit forecast not enough to support the high stock prices.

Yes  USA stocks and not only USA will  go down,that hossa has beenn created with printed  money
Now is time for short selling

Ugh.  I don't have the balls to sell anything short.   I also don't think stock prices are inflated enough that we are going to have a major crash. I look at the price to earnings ratio of a lot of stocks and they are definitely not atrecord highs.

These market fluctuations could just be because of the erratic nature of the Chinese stock market right now, or it could be a precursor to something bigger. Only time will tell. I sure hope that the U.S stock market doesn't crash because if it does, then that means everything is coming down with it. And that isn't a good thing for anybody.

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The stock market primarily reacts to what happens in China, and so a collapse in China will shake the faith in the NYSE and other exchanges.

The US Stock market has the potential to collapse this year, just like it has every other year. The difference right now is that we're experiencing one of the poorer events that can happen in the worldwide economy, and thus there's more chance that it can collapse.

It all depends on investor confidence.

I think oil prices wil effect most of well-developed economies in the world. I suppose that is what we need to focus on in order to predict the US stock market. I don`t even see economists talk about FED meetings anymore. All they talk about is oil prices. I live in one of the most wealthy country in the world, but even in Norway people are loosing their jobs. It is kind of scary actuially. Especially for people like me who are working in oil business.

Confidence for sure is a major component, but we're not simply mirroring China's market. Sometimes China's losses spook investors in the US (on the confidence point) but on the whole, China's stock market is a giant sham propped up by their government, and it will see many bad days ahead while the US market will continue to trade on data more relevant to US investors.

Oil dominates the discussion right now because it moves a lot faster than the Fed. The Fed still gets plenty of mentions in the media here, it just doesn't dominate the headlines like oil does because oil is what is creating the sense of panic right now. Whenever the Fed has a meeting, it gets plenty of play. It just so happens to be right now that the consensus is that with oil reeling, the Fed will not raise rates further, and until this notion changes, there's little reason to spend much time talking about the Fed.

Wall Street in Panic: US stock markets close with biggest losses since September  ;D

https://www.rt.com/usa/329124-global-stocks-fall-oil/

Stock Market Crash: Here’s Why the U.S. Economy Is Doomed in 2016

http://www.profitconfidential.com/stock-market/stock-market-crash-heres-why-the-u-s-economy-is-doomed-in-2016/

The US index rose too much over the last 8 years, it was not supported by fundamental economy. It was fueled by money printing.