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Title: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 11, 2016, 08:02:11 PM
Hello BitcoinTalkers!

I'm CoinMonster. I have been making preparations with a partner to offer this service for a few months now, and we intend to offer this service for the foreseeable future.

Simple Service Summary:

1. You send bitcoins.
2. In the mail, you receive physical USD cash paper money.

Fees & Price
• With escrow: BTC-e.com (https://btc-e.com) USD rate + 9.9% & $5 + $20 Express shipping fee.
• Without escrow:  BTC-e.com (https://btc-e.com) USD rate + 7.9% & $5 + your chosen shipping fee.

Escrow
Escrow is welcomed, however, notice that the fee is 2% higher for escrow transactions. I suggest SebastianJu's Free Legendary Escrow Service (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0;all) or Monbux's FREE Escrow Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0;all) but you can choose whomever from the BitcoinTalk.org escrow providers list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0;all) as long as you pay any escrow fees. There is a limit of about $1,600 in cash that will be available for escrowed trades daily.

How does it work?

3 STEP PROCESS:

Step 1. You fill out this form with the info about your order and send it to me by private message (pm) here at BitcoinTalk or via XMPP/jabber instant message or by email. The Form:
Quote
Do you want to use escrow? Yes or No.
  ^ Fees: 9.9% + $5 + shipping with escrow vs. 7.9% + $5 + shipping without escrow
US Dollar amount you want:
  ^ Limited range: $20 to $1,000 in intervals of $20. For example, $20 or $280 or $1,000 are acceptable amounts. $50, $280.25 and $1,200 are not acceptable amounts. Note: all cash comes directly from a bank or ATM so must be in $20 increments ($20, $40, $60, $80, etc.).
Mail Class: USPS Priority [fee: $5.95] or USPS Express [fee: $20]
  ^ Choose which one you want. Both include tracking numbers. Priority Mail arrives in 2-5 days usually. Express mail arrives in 1-2 days. If you want escrow, you must choose USPS Express.
Mailing address for the cash (USA ONLY!):
   ^ Use Temp.pm (https://temp.pm) or a similar site to encrypt your address if you don't use PGP.
Bitcoin Refund Address:
  ^ Your bitcoin address for a refund in case it is needed.
Your email address and/or XMPP ID in case you contact me outside of bitcointalk:
Your PGP key (optional):

Step 2. I send back to you a bitcoin address (or the escrow provider sends it to you) and how much bitcoin to send there. I'll send you a transparent fee breakdown to show how the bitcoin amount was derived. You must send that amount to the given address within 1 hour for the quote to be valid. For fastest service, use XMPP ("Jabber").

Step 3. I'll contact you with the tracking number after your cash ships and notify you of the order status. It will be in the mail within 24 hours under normal circumstances.

CONTACT INFO:
BitcoinTalk Private Message (PM) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=20242)
Instant Message (Jabber / XMPP): coinmonster@jabber.at | Easy Guide: How to set up jabber instant messaging (https://www.reddit.com/r/emailprivacy/wiki/index#wiki_pidgin_.26amp.3B_xmpp_w.2F_otr_setup_guide)
Email (if you must, this is slow): coinymonster @ notsharingmy.info

CoinMonster's PGP Key:
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Q&A

Why is the fee higher if I want to use escrow?

Escrow puts a serious drain on our funds, so we discourage it with a higher fee, but it is still acceptable. If one person gets $800 from us and another person gets $800 from us the same day, and they both use escrow, we won't be able to do any escrow transactions until those two are completed.

Why do I have to get Express shipping if I use escrow?

So that the escrow transaction can be completed in the shortest possible time.

Is there any limit to how much cash I can get from you?

Yes. We are limited to $1,000 (regardless of number of transactions) per person, per day.

Why can't I sell you more than $1,000 worth of bitcoins in a day?

There are various reasons for this. It would seriously deplete our capital for the amount of time it takes to complete a trade. This is a small business. Also our lawyer advised us to keep it under this limit for now for multiple legal reasons.

Why won't you send cash outside the USA?

It is just not practical to do this, and the risk of problems with your country's customs agency make this not worth trying. Furthermore, transit times would be prohibitively long to most locations.

Do you require ID verification to initiate or complete a transaction?

Never. Don't want it. Don't need it. You will not be asked to expose yourself to potential identity theft in order to sell your bitcoins.

I've got another question!

Please ask.

Edit: I will soon have separate detailed instructions for escrowed transactions and non-escrowed transactions to streamline this.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 12, 2016, 01:08:17 AM
Are you sending the cash via Registered mail?


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 12, 2016, 01:51:43 AM
Are you sending the cash via Registered mail?
No I hadn't planned on it. It'll be going via Priority Mail (with tracking) or Priority Mail Express (with tracking). The cash will be discreetly packaged.

I don't see any real advantage for either party by doing Registered Mail. It takes more time to physically get it in the mail, it goes slower in transit (~10-14 days), and costs more (than regular Priority Mail).

Edit: for clarity


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 12, 2016, 01:55:13 AM
Are you sending the cash via Registered mail?
No I hadn't planned on it. It'll be going via Priority Mail (with tracking) or Priority Mail Express (with tracking). The cash will be discreetly packaged.

I don't see any real advantage for either party by doing Registered Mail. It goes slower in transit, takes more time to mail, and costs more.

Oh ok, that makes sense, hey thanks for that!


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Quickseller on January 13, 2016, 04:45:36 PM
How exactly do you plan on having the escrow mediate any disputes between you and the seller? What would happen if the seller claimed that you sent them an empty envelope/box?

I also find it interesting that Timelord is not questioning you more, especially considering that it appears there is a fairly high chance that your account is purchased. You aren't an alt of Timelord2067 are you ::)


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 13, 2016, 05:09:25 PM
Will watch this thread and see what develops and whether anyone actually uses this service.  Sounds interesting, but there's definitely potential for abuse on the seller's end as QS pointed out.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 13, 2016, 07:35:07 PM
How exactly do you plan on having the escrow mediate any disputes between you and the seller? What would happen if the seller claimed that you sent them an empty envelope/box?
I had thought about that, which is why I'll be doing this: taking a video of the cash being checked with a counterfeit pen, then being counted, being packaged and sealed into a Priority Mail Express envelope (I have a stack of them) with the client's address and proper postage on it, and then that being mailed. If that's not good enough for the escrow provider, I don't know what is. I'm open to suggestions. I definitely don't think Registered Mail would help anything or I'd use it.

I also find it interesting that Timelord is not questioning you more, especially considering that it appears there is a fairly high chance that your account is purchased. You aren't an alt of Timelord2067 are you ::)
I figured I answered Timelord's question. My account is not purchased. I've had the same one since 2011. I am not Timelord2067. I'm not Quickseller either, yet Quickseller is posting in my thread. Conspiracy? I think not.

Will watch this thread and see what develops and whether anyone actually uses this service.  Sounds interesting, but there's definitely potential for abuse on the seller's end as QS pointed out.
There is of course potential for abuse with each person in Currency Exchange (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0). Caution is justified naturally. However, I've been preparing for quite some time now because I will actually be providing this service, and escrow is available.



Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 14, 2016, 12:06:49 PM
Am still here - have been working on outting scammers eg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326221.new#new (and I have a life)...

Quickseller is just blowing smoke to mask his/her next dubious Escrow.

Any moderators reading this - feel free to match my IP against both Quickseller and CoinMonster


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 14, 2016, 12:10:42 PM
How exactly do you plan on having the escrow mediate any disputes between you and the seller? What would happen if the seller claimed that you sent them an empty envelope/box?

I also find it interesting that Timelord is not questioning you more, especially considering that it appears there is a fairly high chance that your account is purchased. You aren't an alt of Timelord2067 are you ::)

Hm, - Nine scammer Alts identified and crossed verified in the last two days since my "last" post. (and quickseller was the next post after mine...)


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 14, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
OK thanks everyone for their trying to protect everyone else from scammers. Time for us to return to the topic:

I'm online and available for trades daily. :)


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: eddie13 on January 14, 2016, 08:58:51 PM
I'm open to suggestions.

What if you had the BTC seller send the BTC to the trusted escrow, and then also ship the box of cash to the escrow, and then the escrow can forward the box of cash to the BTC seller after the escrow confirms that the box does indeed contain cash of the proper amount.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 14, 2016, 09:04:14 PM
I'm open to suggestions.

What if you had the BTC seller send the BTC to the trusted escrow, and then also ship the box of cash to the escrow, and then the escrow can forward the box of cash to the BTC seller after the escrow confirms that the box does indeed contain cash of the proper amount.
$1,000 does not require a box, but point taken. I suppose that would work despite the extra time and shipping costs and extra work for the escrow provider. I'm open to it if someone really wants to do it that way and pay the fees.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Indianacoin on January 14, 2016, 09:44:40 PM
I am looking for a trade like this but will you be able to ship it in India since Indian Customs are the worst barrier here. They will investigate every packages before delivering it to the consignee. And seeing a foreign cash coming in they will charge too high from Tax Department. :-\

Also delivery takes a longer time, almost a week and a half through UPS Express mail.

Is there any solutions to this? If you have one please share so that we can work it out.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 14, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
will you be able to ship it in India since Indian Customs are the worst barrier here. They will investigate every packages before delivering it to the consignee. And seeing a foreign cash coming in they will charge too high from Tax Department. :-\

Also delivery takes a longer time, almost a week and a half through UPS Express mail.

Is there any solutions to this? If you have one please share so that we can work it out.
I'd like to help, but for all the reasons you outlined and a few more, I just really don't think that is a good idea. The potential for major problems to arise is too high for comfort.

Quote from: CoinMonster
Why won't you send cash outside the USA?

It is just not practical to do this, and the risk of problems with your country's customs agency make this not worth trying. Furthermore, transit times would be prohibitively long to most locations.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: nor9865 on January 22, 2016, 02:39:02 PM
I'm online and available for exchanges daily.


i would like to try cash in the mail service for 0.54 btc


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 22, 2016, 04:25:06 PM
No problem. Send me a PM or add me on jabber.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: nor9865 on January 22, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
No problem. Send me a PM or add me on jabber.

pm'd


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: nor9865 on January 22, 2016, 08:49:33 PM
sold him 0.52 for cash by mail.

escrow was sebastianju

lets wait and see how this goes now.

(coinmonster will record the transaction from packing to posting)
(i will record the pick up and opening)


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 25, 2016, 08:25:51 PM
sold him 0.52 for cash by mail.

escrow was sebastianju

lets wait and see how this goes now.

(coinmonster will record the transaction from packing to posting)
(i will record the pick up and opening)
I might be jumping the gun on this, but did you receive the cash yet?  I'm still interested in how these transactions might work out and as I said earlier I might be willing to try this.

Are you guys going to post these packing/unpacking videos anywhere?


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 25, 2016, 08:36:31 PM
I might be jumping the gun on this, but did you receive the cash yet?  I'm still interested in how these transactions might work out and as I said earlier I might be willing to try this.

nor9865 will have it today if that's not already the case.

Are you guys going to post these packing/unpacking videos anywhere?

No. That would raise privacy issues for both parties. They are just for the escrow provider which was SebastianJu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640).


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 25, 2016, 08:43:38 PM
I might be jumping the gun on this, but did you receive the cash yet?  I'm still interested in how these transactions might work out and as I said earlier I might be willing to try this.

nor9865 will have it today if that's not already the case.

Are you guys going to post these packing/unpacking videos anywhere?

No. That would raise privacy issues for both parties. They are just for the escrow provider which was SebastianJu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640).
Gotcha, that makes sense.  One more question:  Did you end up using Priority Mail Express with a tracking number?


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: nor9865 on January 25, 2016, 09:02:42 PM
Well, as for everybody dealing for the first time in those kind of situation, i would be telling lies if i say i wasnt a bit worried.

but coinmonster answered all request, he came through very patiently.

also, if the tracking number doesnt come online the first 2 days, dont worry, its not a problem it will once it reaches another usps facility ;) (learnt my lesson on this one lol)

SebastianJu was very kind and even tho we were exchanging pm he didnt mind anything, the way he puts deals the way he make both parties understand and agree on all terms. One hell of an escrow this guy is.

Finally, i would recommend to use coinmonster for any cash in the mail deal anyone need. he is very calm and talk very nicely even tho i was a little bit odd with my questions.

here you go my man, your first review  8)


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 25, 2016, 09:16:20 PM
One more question:  Did you end up using Priority Mail Express with a tracking number?

Yes.

Finally, i would recommend to use coinmonster for any cash in the mail deal anyone need. he is very calm and talk very nicely even tho i was a little bit odd with my questions.

here you go my man, your first review  8)

Thanks for using my service!


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Quickseller on January 25, 2016, 10:59:34 PM
Well, as for everybody dealing for the first time in those kind of situation, i would be telling lies if i say i wasnt a bit worried.

but coinmonster answered all request, he came through very patiently.

also, if the tracking number doesnt come online the first 2 days, dont worry, its not a problem it will once it reaches another usps facility ;) (learnt my lesson on this one lol)

SebastianJu was very kind and even tho we were exchanging pm he didnt mind anything, the way he puts deals the way he make both parties understand and agree on all terms. One hell of an escrow this guy is.

Finally, i would recommend to use coinmonster for any cash in the mail deal anyone need. he is very calm and talk very nicely even tho i was a little bit odd with my questions.

here you go my man, your first review  8)
nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 25, 2016, 11:51:59 PM
<snip>
nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....
Not trying to hijack this thread, but as I might be interested in doing bitcoin-->cash through the mail with OP at some point, just what are you saying?  Are you implying that OP and nor9865 are one and the same?  If yes, then show the proof.  If not, then what you said makes not a shit of difference.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 26, 2016, 01:37:38 AM
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nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....
Not trying to hijack this thread, but as I might be interested in doing bitcoin-->cash through the mail with OP at some point, just what are you saying?  Are you implying that OP and nor9865 are one and the same?  If yes, then show the proof.  If not, then what you said makes not a shit of difference.

Quickseller is just randomly lashing out at every-one and every-thing since being outted.

If you scroll further up s/he suggested I was an Alt of the OP CoinMonster on the flimsy "evidence" that I wasn't following up my initial questions with more questions.  That's right - I wasn't asking enough questions for Quicksellers liking.

So CoinMonster, I'm sorry you've been subjected to Quickseller's latest defamatory outbursts.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Quickseller on January 26, 2016, 05:08:35 AM
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nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....
Not trying to hijack this thread, but as I might be interested in doing bitcoin-->cash through the mail with OP at some point, just what are you saying?  Are you implying that OP and nor9865 are one and the same?  If yes, then show the proof.  If not, then what you said makes not a shit of difference.
I am just stating the fact that nor9865 was previously used to provide positive trust feedback to one of his alt accounts for a currency exchange trade that did not actually happen. The conclusion that nor9865 is the same person as the OP is one that you made after I pointed out the above fact and that nor9865 gave a positive review to the OP.

There is obviously no blockchain evidence connecting the OP to other accounts considering that he never posted any addresses (IIRC), and the very small number of posts it has made overall, although there are huge gaps (in time) in the OP's post history.

If you are going to transact with cash in the mail, then one party (or both) needs to have huge amounts of trust. Even if you video tape the packaging/opening of an envelope, there would be nothing to stop one party from tampering with the envelope before/after the video stops.   


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 26, 2016, 05:24:31 AM
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nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....
Not trying to hijack this thread, but as I might be interested in doing bitcoin-->cash through the mail with OP at some point, just what are you saying?  Are you implying that OP and nor9865 are one and the same?  If yes, then show the proof.  If not, then what you said makes not a shit of difference.
I am just stating the fact that nor9865 was previously used to provide positive trust feedback to one of his alt accounts for a currency exchange trade that did not actually happen. The conclusion that nor9865 is the same person as the OP is one that you made after I pointed out the above fact and that nor9865 gave a positive review to the OP.

There is obviously no blockchain evidence connecting the OP to other accounts
considering that he never posted any addresses (IIRC), and the very small number of posts it has made overall, although there are huge gaps (in time) in the OP's post history.

If you are going to transact with cash in the mail, then one party (or both) needs to have huge amounts of trust. Even if you video tape the packaging/opening of an envelope, there would be nothing to stop one party from tampering with the envelope before/after the video stops.   

As you can see, no evidence, just speculation - ie defamation.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 26, 2016, 05:28:15 AM
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nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....
Not trying to hijack this thread, but as I might be interested in doing bitcoin-->cash through the mail with OP at some point, just what are you saying?  Are you implying that OP and nor9865 are one and the same?  If yes, then show the proof.  If not, then what you said makes not a shit of difference.
I am just stating the fact that nor9865 was previously used to provide positive trust feedback to one of his alt accounts for a currency exchange trade that did not actually happen. The conclusion that nor9865 is the same person as the OP is one that you made after I pointed out the above fact and that nor9865 gave a positive review to the OP.

There is obviously no blockchain evidence connecting the OP to other accounts considering that he never posted any addresses (IIRC), and the very small number of posts it has made overall, although there are huge gaps (in time) in the OP's post history.

If you are going to transact with cash in the mail, then one party (or both) needs to have huge amounts of trust. Even if you video tape the packaging/opening of an envelope, there would be nothing to stop one party from tampering with the envelope before/after the video stops.   
Read what I wrote.  You stated a fact, and I am questioning with good reason why you chose to state that fact here.  If you have no proof of anything then your comment is out of place. 


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Quickseller on January 26, 2016, 05:31:15 AM
<snip>
nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....
Not trying to hijack this thread, but as I might be interested in doing bitcoin-->cash through the mail with OP at some point, just what are you saying?  Are you implying that OP and nor9865 are one and the same?  If yes, then show the proof.  If not, then what you said makes not a shit of difference.
I am just stating the fact that nor9865 was previously used to provide positive trust feedback to one of his alt accounts for a currency exchange trade that did not actually happen. The conclusion that nor9865 is the same person as the OP is one that you made after I pointed out the above fact and that nor9865 gave a positive review to the OP.

There is obviously no blockchain evidence connecting the OP to other accounts considering that he never posted any addresses (IIRC), and the very small number of posts it has made overall, although there are huge gaps (in time) in the OP's post history.

If you are going to transact with cash in the mail, then one party (or both) needs to have huge amounts of trust. Even if you video tape the packaging/opening of an envelope, there would be nothing to stop one party from tampering with the envelope before/after the video stops.   
Read what I wrote.  You stated a fact, and I am questioning with good reason why you chose to state that fact here.  If you have no proof of anything then your comment is out of place. 
Nope, not out of place. I am pointing out a reason why any statement that nor9865 makes that describes a positive trading experience, or opines that someone else can be trusted should be taken with a grain of salt.

As you can see, no evidence, just speculation - ie defamation.
Nothing that I said is speculation.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 26, 2016, 05:39:48 AM
How exactly do you plan on having the escrow mediate any disputes between you and the seller? What would happen if the seller claimed that you sent them an empty envelope/box?

I also find it interesting that Timelord is not questioning you more, especially considering that it appears there is a fairly high chance that your account is purchased. You aren't an alt of Timelord2067 are you ::)




As you can see, no evidence, just speculation - ie defamation.
Nothing that I said is speculation.

As I said before

Am still here - have been working on outting scammers eg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326221.new#new (and I have a life)...

Quickseller is just blowing smoke to mask his/her next dubious Escrow.

Any moderators reading this - feel free to match my IP against both Quickseller and CoinMonster


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 26, 2016, 10:20:25 AM
(defamation blah by Quickseller snipped...)

If you are going to transact with cash in the mail, then one party (or both) needs to have huge amounts of trust. Even if you video tape the packaging/opening of an envelope, there would be nothing to stop one party from tampering with the envelope before/after the video stops.  

I would have thought it would be pretty obvious to most persons that used paper wallets what the solution to suggestions of tampering would be... http://www.tamperevident.com.au/

As discussed on the SexCoin Forum's paper wallet's thread as well as here.

Do try to keep up Quicksandseller


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: nor9865 on January 26, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
Well, as for everybody dealing for the first time in those kind of situation, i would be telling lies if i say i wasnt a bit worried.

but coinmonster answered all request, he came through very patiently.

also, if the tracking number doesnt come online the first 2 days, dont worry, its not a problem it will once it reaches another usps facility ;) (learnt my lesson on this one lol)

SebastianJu was very kind and even tho we were exchanging pm he didnt mind anything, the way he puts deals the way he make both parties understand and agree on all terms. One hell of an escrow this guy is.

Finally, i would recommend to use coinmonster for any cash in the mail deal anyone need. he is very calm and talk very nicely even tho i was a little bit odd with my questions.

here you go my man, your first review  8)
nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....

i was waiting for you stupid trash face.

dca6a1870fdb31355ca5f661d108fa0d124f7cfe5c5de0fc726b448596a11874

do you want me to sign my address?


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: nor9865 on January 26, 2016, 02:42:12 PM
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nor9865 has a history of leaving trust from his alt accounts in order to make his alts appear more trustworthy then they really are. In the past he left positive trust for  Netpyder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=458703).....just saying....
Not trying to hijack this thread, but as I might be interested in doing bitcoin-->cash through the mail with OP at some point, just what are you saying?  Are you implying that OP and nor9865 are one and the same?  If yes, then show the proof.  If not, then what you said makes not a shit of difference.
I am just stating the fact that nor9865 was previously used to provide positive trust feedback to one of his alt accounts for a currency exchange trade that did not actually happen. The conclusion that nor9865 is the same person as the OP is one that you made after I pointed out the above fact and that nor9865 gave a positive review to the OP.

There is obviously no blockchain evidence connecting the OP to other accounts considering that he never posted any addresses (IIRC), and the very small number of posts it has made overall, although there are huge gaps (in time) in the OP's post history.

If you are going to transact with cash in the mail, then one party (or both) needs to have huge amounts of trust. Even if you video tape the packaging/opening of an envelope, there would be nothing to stop one party from tampering with the envelope before/after the video stops.   
Read what I wrote.  You stated a fact, and I am questioning with good reason why you chose to state that fact here.  If you have no proof of anything then your comment is out of place. 
Nope, not out of place. I am pointing out a reason why any statement that nor9865 makes that describes a positive trading experience, or opines that someone else can be trusted should be taken with a grain of salt.

As you can see, no evidence, just speculation - ie defamation.
Nothing that I said is speculation.

you see the reason why i am not worried about you is, you have a very interresting mind and i love to follow your post when im bored. ive read a lot from your "previous post by user".

ive noticed something very very common in your scam accusations and sometimes scams that were really going on.

you seem to know a lot about those move of self vouching or tricking other people.

the scam accusations that you point out, seems like scam that you were actually accused of being authored. if not, then NOT YET ACCUSED.

Quickscammer, face it, you will never be on the default trust again. and make sure in the following post you dont whine about not wanting to be on the default trust or blablabla.

the thing is, you sold your reputation, your respect, your status you had on the forum, for a few bucks. and for that.

Shame on you

also, make sure to follow my posts, there is something that will happen on my profile and you would jump to comment or scam accused me. just keep yourself updated with my posts. give me 48 to 72more hours.

p.s i am sure you will use your alts to do whatever i think you will be doing. but you will be bashing me on this profile.

Quickscammer, there is a saying that goes like this in english : you dont run around saying your neighbour has a pebble in his garden when you have a mountain in yours.

Cheers

p.s to OP, sorry you had to deal with this. i think we can clear this mess by giving the videotape to sebastian, but then ofcourse there is Quickscammer might say its just video i as you self shot and thats it.

i suggest we could just post the tracking number on public and let Quickscammer take his accusations and shove it up his you know where...

any possible solutions you have, be my guest.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on January 26, 2016, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Quickseller
Even if you video tape the packaging/opening of an envelope, there would be nothing to stop one party from tampering with the envelope before/after the video stops.

This is true of anything that gets shipped to someone, not just cash. I'm not sure why you single me out vs anyone selling stuff in the Goods (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=51.0) forum. I'm essentially selling cash as a good for bitcoin. Cash in and of itself is not any more risky than any good sold there.

p.s to OP, sorry you had to deal with this. i think we can clear this mess by giving the videotape to sebastian, but then ofcourse there is Quickscammer might say its just video i as you self shot and thats it.

I'm sorry too that my thread has been derailed, but it can get back on track. Quickseller already basically said a video is not proof, and that is essentially correct. It was just a piece of evidence for the escrow provider in case of a dispute. There was no dispute, so I don't think we should waste SebastianJu's time or our own time to prove something we already know to be true to someone who wouldn't take it as proof anyway.

Further, I don't need to prove anything to Quickseller or anyone else especially if they are not using my service. I'm just offering this service. People can use it or not.

i suggest we could just post the tracking number on public and let Quickscammer take his accusations and shove it up his you know where...

To which Quickseller would probably say it is just a random tracking number that proves nothing. I do find it a little ironic Quickseller comes here and offers only veiled accusations without even attempts at proof. As it happens, there is no proof offered because none exists.

I appreciate that there is risk and scams in this forum and they should be guarded against, but I haven't done anything nefarious and I'm not going to. I'm not talking back and forth with myself using alt accounts. I'm not using any other accounts. I'm just offering a service. Obviously, there is risk to the service as with anyone's service in this Currency Exchange forum. If you don't feel safe, use escrow! It is available for Pete's sake!

Now, Quickseller, I appreciate your wanting people to avoid scams, but can you please refrain from posting in my thread from now on unless you're going to use or ask about the service I'm providing? It is clear that you are suspicious of me, my account and my service. Please post all your future thoughts on these issues in the proper forum (Scam Accusations) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0). Please, and thank you kindly.


Title: Re: CoinMonster's Sell-Your-Bitcoins-for-USD Cash by Mail Service, Escrow Welcomed
Post by: CoinMonster on February 01, 2016, 07:50:36 PM
Service discontinued due to lack of interest.