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Title: Safest wallet ?
Post by: vortexz on January 11, 2016, 10:31:29 PM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: achow101 on January 11, 2016, 11:07:14 PM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?
The safest wallet is a desktop wallet. I recommend that you use Electrum if you want SPV or Armory if you want a full node. Both can be used in the safest manner which is having a dual computer setup, an offline computer and an online one. The offline computer signs the transactions while the online computer is only able to lookup transactions and create the unsigned transaction. Because the online computer doesn't have the private keys, if it gets a virus, the virus can't steal your Bitcoin. The offline computer is unable to connect to the internet so if it somehow gets a virus, then the virus cannot communicate with the attacker to steal your private keys.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on January 11, 2016, 11:39:20 PM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?

Coinbase lets you enable 2fa when sending bitcoin. So do BitGo and GreenAddress. All are browser based bitcoin wallets. I am not aware of a desktop wallet with 2fa. If you really are serious about safety consider using the MultiBit HD desktop bitcoin wallet with KeepKey or Trezor to store your private keys offline.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: ajrah on January 11, 2016, 11:46:58 PM
I wljld recommend electrum and trezzor. I have not read any feedback about ledger wallet but I heard it one of the safest wallet as well. Coinbase is an exchange site but interms of security they offer a good options on how to secure the account.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: uchiikina14 on January 27, 2018, 04:18:04 PM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?

You can use many wallets out their you can check the Google what is the safest wallet. You can use some of the safest wallet I know.

📌 Coinbase - (online exchange)
📌 Blockchain.info - (online wallet)
📌 Electrum - (software wallet)
📌 Ledger or Trezor - (hardware wallets/dongles)
📌 Paper wallet or other cold storage

I list some of the wallets that I know that is safe to use. It up to you which one you will use and if you read some threads about the different wallets and their is some negative comment about the wallet, it is how others used that wallet and if they say that their wallet is hacked maybe they used the phishing site. Sometimes we never knew that the website we enter is a phishing site so I suggest to double check the website before loging your username and password.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: ranochigo on January 27, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
📌 Blockchain.info - (online wallet)
Please don't use Blockchain.info. Their software is incredibly flawed and buggy. People have lost coins because of their incompetence.
I list some of the wallets that I know that is safe to use. It up to you which one you will use and if you read some threads about the different wallets and their is some negative comment about the wallet, it is how others used that wallet and if they say that their wallet is hacked maybe they used the phishing site. Sometimes we never knew that the website we enter is a phishing site so I suggest to double check the website before loging your username and password.
Blockchain.info's hacks were certainly not a result of phishing or anything similar. If anything, people should just downright stop using any online wallets. They have way too much attack vectors as compared to even a desktop wallet.

Paper wallets are technically not wallets since you just store your private keys on it but you can't spend it without using an actual wallet. And that actual wallet is what makes a difference between getting hacked and not.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Sudhik on January 27, 2018, 04:38:29 PM
This recomended wallet for you :
1: Paper wallet or other cold storage. A paper wallet is simply a document that contains all the information you need to generate the bitcoin private keys you need.
2: Ledger or Trezor (hardware wallets/dongles). These dongles both make the best bitcoin wallet list because of their safety and mobility. Plus, they're good enough for professional investors.
3: Electrum (software wallet). Electrum is a popular, free storage option in the bitcoin community, and is one of the most, if not the most, well-respected desktop storage apps out there.
4: Blockchain.info (online wallet). Exchanges are ripe pickings for ambitious hackers.
5: Coinbase (online exchange). In here you not only can buy, sell, exchange and trade bitcoin on Coinbase, but you can store your bitcoin in a wallet there, too.

I recommend using a paper wallet so you have a physical backup of the private key. Thanks


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: AngelSky on January 27, 2018, 05:08:08 PM
Online wallets are not at all a safe one to find have the funds at all. Especially people having fund on Blockchain, MEW and trading site wallets are hacked many times but the hackers.

Please follow these if you are using the blockchain wallet.

Don't connect the VPN plug in or VPN software in computer while you looking into blockchain.info URL.
Always use the URL perfectly in the address bar.
Don't surf using Google search engine to log in to wallet.
Avoid saving the wallet identifier and password in the any computer.

if your URL turns as blockchain.onion Don't log into that

Secured hardware wallets are: Trezor and LedgerNano s
Best Desktop wallets: Bitcoincore, Multibit and Electrum


Keep safe your private key and wallet.dat file to avoid the hacking attacks.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: aleksej996 on January 27, 2018, 10:45:48 PM
I would say it is most likely Bitcoin Core. At least when it comes to hot wallets.

Website wallets are a definite no. They aren't really wallets in the first place, they are banks.
If someone controls your private keys, it is not your Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: bL4nkcode on January 27, 2018, 11:02:28 PM
Web wallets or any wallet that you have to login with email/username and password using websites are not a safe. Desktop wallet is safe but it can be vulnerable to malware and can steal any information on your computer if its connected to the internet. But you can do an offline transaction with some desktop wallet using electrum so it would be the safest way of using desktop but its time consuming.

But Hardware wallets are the safest wallet, it can't be infected with malware even you inject it to an infected computer, so you're totally safe, but the downside of using it is you can't use to send if the HW lost, so you have to buy a HW again and recover your funds using your 24 seed. Or you can import your seed to any trusted wallet so you can use it in sending but this is not recommended the wallet might be compromised.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: avoroch on January 28, 2018, 02:35:17 AM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?

Somebody knows about MyEtherWallet? There is not TFA and I worry about it


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: TryNinja on January 28, 2018, 05:13:06 AM
Somebody knows about MyEtherWallet? There is not TFA and I worry about it
Do you mean Two Factor Authentication? It's not possible and probably will never be as MEW is completely client-side. In the end, this makes MEW even safer.

Here is a good explanation on why: https://myetherwallet.github.io/knowledge-base/security/turning-of-2fa-on-myetherwallet.html


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: chenging14 on January 28, 2018, 10:47:10 AM
The safest option is a hardware wallet which you keep offline, in a secure place. That way there is no risk that your account can be hacked, your keys stolen and your bitcoin whisked away. But, if you lose the wallet, your bitcoin are gone, unless you have created a clone and/or kept reliable backups of the keys.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Ahiaba on January 28, 2018, 07:28:29 PM
Op didn't specify the wallet for which particular coins is looking for, although i will answer based on the one am currently using that require email confirmation which is Blockchian info that is mainly use for Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash and Ethereum.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Steamtyme on January 28, 2018, 09:10:38 PM
Here is a nice sticky from the beginner and help section that should help you decide what wallet is right for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631151.0


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Stegobit on January 29, 2018, 06:04:14 AM
I suggest to use Electrum, encrypt wallet's file with good password and upload it into the cloud (preferably on multiple services).
To eliminate malware risk, especially for large transactions, burn DVD with LinuxMint and boot from it in LiveCD mode, download Electrum software and your wallet from the cloud, make a transaction and restart your PC.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Lauda on January 29, 2018, 07:21:47 AM
But Hardware wallets are the safest wallet, it can't be infected with malware even you inject it to an infected computer, so you're totally safe, but the downside of using it is you can't use to send if the HW lost, so you have to buy a HW again and recover your funds using your 24 seed. Or you can import your seed to any trusted wallet so you can use it in sending but this is not recommended the wallet might be compromised.
No, that is not correct. In case of hardware failure or similar, you can:
a) Import the seed to another wallet which is compatible with the HW's seed.
b) Use derivation tools to get your private keys of addresses that hold funds. Import these keys elsewhere and you have access.

In the case that you've described, these wallets would have a major downside if you couldn't do anything if you lost/damaged them. That is simply not the case.

Op didn't specify the wallet for which particular coins is looking for, although i will answer based on the one am currently using that require email confirmation which is Blockchian.info that is mainly use for Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash and Ethereum.
Do not use web wallets. Yet again, horrible advice here.

.. upload it into the cloud (preferably on multiple services)..
No. Never upload wallets to the cloud. That's a horrible idea.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: douhancan58 on January 29, 2018, 09:03:15 AM
The security of a hardware wallet is about the same as a cold wallet. Because the hardware wallet is essentially a cold wallet category.

From the code perspective, these are closed source wallet even sometimes it is better to open source of cold purse, because there is no outside programmers to help review code, in the past some hardware wallet has had one or two lower holes.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: yojodojo21 on January 29, 2018, 09:44:58 AM
Web, desktop, cold wallets are all the same not secured as long as if  it is not being take good care. but basing here on this forum we always have an update about Bitcoin core or electrum though to install it you have to follow some codes and I believe it is good enough as storage of your crypto. Maybe you can ask admin theymos directly of what can he suggest the best wallet since admin theymos own a lot of crypto.

Price must be always right.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Lauda on January 29, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
The security of a hardware wallet is about the same as a cold wallet. Because the hardware wallet is essentially a cold wallet category.
I would disagree. Cold wallet setups differ greatly. Everything that is not usually connected to the internet is considered as one, but the security of those setups is not equal.


Web, desktop, cold wallets are all the same not secured as long as if  it is not being take good care.
Completely wrong.

but basing here on this forum we always have an update about Bitcoin core or electrum though to install it you have to follow some codes and I believe it is good enough as storage of your crypto. Maybe you can ask admin theymos directly of what can he suggest the best wallet since admin theymos own a lot of crypto.

Price must be always right.
Shitpost.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Mystezi on January 29, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Actually the safest wallet to keep your bitcoins is actually a hardware wallet (Cold storage). Hardware wallets are actually small devices that connect to the internet just to enact transactions only. They are very secure as they are often kept off the internet system and thereby not hackable .Examples will be Trezor T or Legner Nano S. I personally prefer Legner Nano S.

For a online wallet ,i personally prefer Jaxx as it allows me to keep my private keys to myself. However , such wallets are prone to hacking as there are based online. So it will be advisable to scan your computer for malware every now and then.

For exchanged linked wallet, Coinbase is a good wallet then have 2FA protection ,Email protection and IP address notification.




Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Tylerizator on January 29, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
No one wallet could be better then Hardware. IMHO (In my Humble opinion)

best Bitcoin hardware wallets are:

  • Ledger Nano S
  • TREZOR
  • KeepKey

Don’t worry about your hardware wallet getting stolen, lost or damaged either; so long as you create a secret backup code, you can always retrieve your bitcoins.

Why are hardware wallets good?

  • Easiest way to securely store bitcoins
  • Easy to backup and secure
  • Less margin for error; setup is easy even for less technical users

Why are hardware wallets bad?


  • They're not free!



Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Stegobit on January 30, 2018, 04:53:35 AM
No. Never upload wallets to the cloud. That's a horrible idea.
Why? If you have encrypted wallet with good password, cloud service provider will never access your bitcoins.
However, if you keep wallet on your PC HDD/SSD or other media, you can lose your bitcoins forever if some force majeure event occurs (fire, floods, explosion, police raid where your PC seized etc).

Actually the safest wallet to keep your bitcoins is actually a hardware wallet (Cold storage). Hardware wallets are actually small devices that connect to the internet just to enact transactions only. They are very secure as they are often kept off the internet system and thereby not hackable .
They are vulnerable to the same force majeure events mentioned in previous quote (if you haven't made a backup in the cloud).




Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: ejzok on January 30, 2018, 05:34:55 AM
I always don't like the term "Wallet", because when in fact it is only an access to your wallet. Remember, your coins are actually stored in the blockchain. What you have, whether Software Wallet in your PC, Web Wallet, Hardware Wallet, etc, is only used as an interface for accessing to see how much value this 'Wallet Address' currently have.

So, depending on what type of Secret Key that software uses, it can be restored to another software which uses the same protocol.

Ledger, for example, uses BIP39, so if you've lost your Ledger, you can use the same Secret passphrase to restore another Ledger, or another software which uses BIP39m like Mycelium (according to Ledger's official website). This also means that if someone saw your secret passphrases then they have access to your wallet as well.

Web-based Wallet - the web owner has everything. They are holding the keys. The address does not even belong to you. So lets say that the web wallet flies, then you have no chance of getting anything back. Additionally, 2FA is only one level of protection to your account only, which if the hacker hacks into the web, then 2FA is meaning less, since the hacker gain control of every thing and simply can disable the 2FA or bypass it.

Exchange Site - don't store anything here for long... just only when to make the trade. Should not be used as a permanent wallet.

Software Wallet (in your PC) ie, Exodus, Jaxx - again, a little more safer than the Web-based Wallet I think. It seems like you have the control, but you actually don't.... (I could be wrong)

That being said, if use properly, I think that Hardware Wallet is the safest bet. Like not buying from someone else other than trusted source (official retailer, etc), don't lose your keys, don't let other people see your keys, avoid connecting to other people's PC, etc. I personally have a spare old Macbook which is installed with Ubuntu, and it is only used for this purpose only, not even opening any emails or open any other website.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: shamzblueworld on January 30, 2018, 05:40:23 AM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?

For email confirmation I guess you are referring to an online wallet or an exchange maybe, I know Poloniex exchange has that functionality.
Blockchain.info and coinbase are also good options if you want online wallets.
But I wouldn't recommend using an online wallets, its better to go with a desktop/mobile option or even hardware wallet like trezor.
For desktop electrum is the most supported and for mobile, mycelium has the most audience support.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: aleksej996 on January 30, 2018, 11:24:24 AM
No. Never upload wallets to the cloud. That's a horrible idea.
Why? If you have encrypted wallet with good password, cloud service provider will never access your bitcoins.
However, if you keep wallet on your PC HDD/SSD or other media, you can lose your bitcoins forever if some force majeure event occurs (fire, floods, explosion, police raid where your PC seized etc).

Encryption is not that rarely broken and cloud services have a lot of computing power. Although risk isn't super high. it is still not negligible in my opinion.
Encryption of wallets is crucial, but their secrecy is still a very good addition to security.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Lauda on January 30, 2018, 05:22:18 PM
No. Never upload wallets to the cloud. That's a horrible idea.
Why? If you have encrypted wallet with good password, cloud service provider will never access your bitcoins.
Your password leaks somehow, somewhere: Most intelligence agencies in the world have access to your wallet.

However, if you keep wallet on your PC HDD/SSD or other media, you can lose your bitcoins forever if some force majeure event occurs (fire, floods, explosion, police raid where your PC seized etc).
No. Local backups > cloud backups. Data loss on the cloud isn't unknown. Keep backups at multiple locations to avoid the mentioned events.

Encryption is not that rarely broken and cloud services have a lot of computing power. Although risk isn't super high. it is still not negligible in my opinion.
There's also this.

Blockchain.info and coinbase are also good options if you want online wallets.
But I wouldn't recommend using an online wallets, its better to go with a desktop/mobile option or even hardware wallet like trezor.
Horrible two suggestions.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: EcuaMobi on January 30, 2018, 10:10:36 PM
You can also consider storing your BTC in a deck of cards as offline storage:

https://i.imgur.com/TMuXw6R.png

https://ecua.mobi/deck-wallet/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=811397.0


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Stegobit on January 31, 2018, 06:04:24 AM
Your password leaks somehow, somewhere: Most intelligence agencies in the world have access to your wallet.
If you use LiveCD Linux, it is almost impossible. Can happen only if you are person of interest for them and they have installed hardware keylogger or other spying device into your PC.

Encryption is not that rarely broken and cloud services have a lot of computing power. Although risk isn't super high. it is still not negligible in my opinion.
I don't think it is easy even for NSA to crack 30 character password for VeraCrypt container with AES-Twofish-Serpent cascade encryption.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Lauda on January 31, 2018, 06:31:54 AM
Your password leaks somehow, somewhere: Most intelligence agencies in the world have access to your wallet.
If you use LiveCD Linux, it is almost impossible.
You literally suggested cloud services for backup, now you suddenly switch toLinux live CD. Please stop giving advice here.

Can happen only if you are person of interest for them and they have installed hardware keylogger or other spying device into your PC.
Everyone is a person of interest for NSA and every single both Intel and AMD CPU has a backdoor.

I don't think it is easy even for NSA to crack 30 character password for VeraCrypt container with AES-Twofish-Serpent cascade encryption.
So naive. ::)

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: KonradKarl on January 31, 2018, 07:31:57 PM
Best wallet for me - is a hardware wallet.

1) Ledger Nano S
2) Trezor
3) KeepKey

These wallets that I've used. My favourite is Ledger Nano, but it has some problems with memory (you can't keep a lot of apps installed there).



Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Stegobit on February 01, 2018, 02:36:16 AM
You literally suggested cloud services for backup, now you suddenly switch toLinux live CD. Please stop giving advice here.
I mean to boot from Linux LiveCD and download wallet from cloud, then make a transaction.
This strategy minimizes risk of trojan malware that you have caught somewhere.

How does cloud service owner will use rubber-hose cryptanalysis?! Very interesting...!  ;D


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Lauda on February 01, 2018, 07:21:04 PM
My favourite is Ledger Nano, but it has some problems with memory (you can't keep a lot of apps installed there).
I wouldn't call it a *problem*, rather a inconvenience. That was probably intentional in order to: a) Sell Gen 2. b) Cut production costs.

I mean to boot from Linux LiveCD and download wallet from cloud, then make a transaction.
This strategy minimizes risk of trojan malware that you have caught somewhere.
Trojan =/= malware. Trojan's are a subset of malware. Either way, while being beneficial to security, that does not guarantee anything.

How does cloud service owner will use rubber-hose cryptanalysis?! Very interesting...!  ;D
Upload to the cloud = upload to your nearest intelligence agency. They will know what to do. :)


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: Stegobit on February 02, 2018, 05:59:36 AM
Upload to the cloud = upload to your nearest intelligence agency. They will know what to do. :)
If you have uploaded VeraCrypt file container, cloud provider and intelligence agencies it collaborates won't even know what type of data you have uploaded.
Have you heard about steganography?!


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: darkangel on February 03, 2018, 01:52:19 AM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?
Ledger Nano S is a Bitcoin hardware wallet, Ethereum and Altcoin-based secure features for cryptocurrency storage and security for coin. It connects to any computer (with a USB port) and has an OLED screen to verify and confirm each transaction. Ledger Nano S supports the storage of multiple currencies such as Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum and Altcoins in the same wallet.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: jokowi on February 03, 2018, 01:56:14 AM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?
Ethereum cold wallet on Coinbase. Coinbase allows you to access your wallet and supports multiple coin stores such as Ethereum and Bitcoin. Coinbase wallets are simple to set up and very easy to use


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: rext on February 03, 2018, 01:56:48 AM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?
TREZOR cold wallet is one of the safest electronic wallets. It has the ability to store multiple types of cryptocurrency and ERC-20 token. If your account is lost, you can regain access to your lock, assets, history, email and account. This is a reliable Bitcoin store that is safe and secure without any risk.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: MarkZuckerCoin on February 03, 2018, 02:56:31 AM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?
Isn't the safest wallet a hardware wallet? make sure to buy it at the official site instead of ebay because there was a ledger nano s scam going around and its kinda scary. hardware wallet has the best security !


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: deevan on February 03, 2018, 12:27:11 PM
Meta mask ERC-20 Compatible wallet is also very good wallet , it is installed as chrome extension. One benefit of this wallet is that it protects you from phishing sites.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: signalbitbot on February 04, 2018, 12:38:03 AM
online wallet  -  blockchain.info
Or ledger.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: ogini on February 04, 2018, 11:16:31 AM
Although there are other bitcoin wallets but you can also consider this ones below.

Mycelium

Copay

Armory


Breadwallet

KeepKey Wallet

MultiBit

 AirBitz

Blockchain.info


Trezor Wallet

Ledger Nano S Wallet


Coinbase


















Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: andrewcruise on February 04, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
Can anyone recommend me safest wallet ? some wallet that is having e-mail confirmation protection ?
The safest wallet is a desktop wallet. I recommend that you use Electrum if you want SPV or Armory if you want a full node. Both can be used in the safest manner which is having a dual computer setup, an offline computer and an online one. The offline computer signs the transactions while the online computer is only able to lookup transactions and create the unsigned transaction. Because the online computer doesn't have the private keys, if it gets a virus, the virus can't steal your Bitcoin. The offline computer is unable to connect to the internet so if it somehow gets a virus, then the virus cannot communicate with the attacker to steal your private keys.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: alexis.brg on February 04, 2018, 02:02:15 PM
The safest wallet is a desktop wallet. I recommend that you use Electrum


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: site2017 on February 04, 2018, 02:33:14 PM
Electronic wallets

Electronic wallets can be downloaded software, or hosted in the cloud. The former is simply a formatted file that lives on your computer or device, that facilitates transactions. Hosted (cloud-based) wallets tend to have a more user-friendly interface, but you will be trusting a third party with your private keys.

Software wallet

Installing a wallet directly on your computer gives you the security that you control your keys. Most have relatively easy configuration, and are free. The disadvantage is that they do require more maintenance in the form of backups. If your computer gets stolen or corrupted and your private keys are not also stored elsewhere, you lose your bitcoin.

They also require greater security precautions. If your computer is hacked and the thief gets a hold of your wallet or your private keys, he also gets hold of your bitcoin.


Title: Re: Safest wallet ?
Post by: baobao2000 on February 05, 2018, 01:44:28 PM
Hard drive wallet is safest way to store your bitcoin at moment. Third party is not able to involve and manipulate. If you have a good amount of bitcoins is better to store in a hard drive wallet. Desktop-wallets and web-wallets all have their pros and cons, they can be hacked.