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Title: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: ShakinHandz on January 16, 2016, 05:44:01 AM
Bitcoin slid by 10 percent on Friday after one of its lead developers, Mike Hearn, said in a blogpost that he was ending his involvement with the cryptocurrency and selling all of his remaining holdings because it had "failed".

Hearn, one of five senior developers who has spent more than five years working on the web-based currency, said he would no longer be taking part in development.

"Despite knowing that bitcoin could fail all along, the now inescapable conclusion that it has failed still saddens me greatly," Hearn said in his post on blog-publishing platform Medium.

Along with Gavin Andresen, who was chosen by bitcoin's elusive creator Satoshi Nakamoto as his successor when he stepped aside in 2011, Hearn has been locked for months in a battle with the other lead developers over whether the "blocks" in which bitcoin transactions are processed should be enlarged.

Each block currently has a capacity of one megabyte, which Hearn says is "an entirely artificial capacity cap", and allows a maximum of just three payments to be processed per second.

In August, Hearn and Andresen released a rival version of the current software, called Bitcoin XT, which would increase the block size to 8 megabytes, allowing up to 24 transactions to be processed every second. While that is still a fraction of the 20,000 or so that Visa can process, it would increase every year, so that bitcoin could continue to grow.

But the new software has not been adopted by the "mining" computers that secure the network, the majority of which are in China, according to Hearn.

Hearn says the bitcoin network is about to run out of capacity as the volume of transactions increases. And when that happens, the network will become unreliable, with payments unable to be processed and vulnerable to fraud.

"If an IT system runs out of capacity like that then all kinds of things go wrong – all hell breaks loose," he said in an interview with Reuters in late December.

Hearn reckons the bitcoin community has "failed" in its governance of the crytocurrency's code.

"What was meant to be a new, decentralised form of money that lacked 'systemically important institutions' and 'too big to fail' has become something even worse: a system completely controlled by just a handful of people," he wrote.

SUDDEN DEPARTURE

Just months ago, in August, Hearn told Reuters that whether or not Bitcoin XT was adopted, the crypocurrency would live on. "If we thought it might be the end of bitcoin, we wouldn't do it," he said then.

Bitcoin was trading at around $390 on the itBit exchange BTC=ITBT by 2000 GMT, down from $430 before Hearn's blog post was published.

In his December interview, Hearn said that when people realised that the bitcoin network was at breaking point, the price would fall.

"The current price of bitcoin is supported almost entirely by people speculating on its future, in the assumption that this could be the money of tomorrow," he said. "So if the network starts to collapse, then a lot of people are going to look at it and say: well maybe we've miscalculated (its) future value."

Hearn is now working for the R3CEV consortium of banks working on using the blockchain technology that underpins bitcoin in financial markets.

Stephan Tual, the former chief operating officer of blockchain firm Ethereum, who now works at blockchain-based app developer Slock.it, also reckons bitcoin's future looks shaky.

"Bitcoin is outdated technology - almost prehistoric by crypto standards," he said. "It's because of petty quarrels such as these that it hasn't been able to evolve in five years."

Others were more upbeat.

"I'm not ready to declare that Bitcoin has failed," wrote U.S. venture capitalist Fred Wilson.

"Sometimes it takes a crisis to get everyone in a room... So if we are going to have a crisis, let's get on with it. No better time than the present."
-Source Internet


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: ShakinHandz on January 16, 2016, 05:45:54 AM
I sold My 30BTC @ 406$ , to get some Fiat?
what i did was right Or wrong ? would like to hear from you guys.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: prodigy8 on January 16, 2016, 12:46:40 PM
I sold My 30BTC @ 406$ , to get some Fiat?
what i did was right Or wrong ? would like to hear from you guys.
You did a good job then you got $12,180, now with these money you can get nearly 33BTC which means 3BTC profit.

About the developer which quits bitcoin i don't think we should make any panic, it's his decision and bitcoin will continue its journey.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: Boelens on January 16, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
I sold My 30BTC @ 406$ , to get some Fiat?
what i did was right Or wrong ? would like to hear from you guys.

That's really good. Prices are low right now and you either got out of it good or you can buy back and get more bitcoin back. But selling at 400+ was definitely the right play here.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: calkob on January 16, 2016, 12:59:24 PM
He has, but why should we really care, due to the story more people will probably here about bitcoin...... ;D  and you know that anynews is good news its PR.  Bitcoin is still working it aint broken.  untill i see my node actually shit itself infront of me i'm gona keep buying..... ;D


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: notbatman on January 16, 2016, 01:12:03 PM
What are the odds that Darth "Rage Quit" Hern shorted BTC with the fiat he got from flipping his stash before his blog post and planned to re-invest the profits when hit the floor (about 5 hours ago)?


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: lenoli on January 16, 2016, 01:13:46 PM
I sold My 30BTC @ 406$ , to get some Fiat?
what i did was right Or wrong ? would like to hear from you guys.

for now, its good, bun you must buy some btc now, because i am sure soon it will raise again


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: n2004al on January 16, 2016, 01:15:50 PM
There is a very bad situation for bitcoin since I remember to know it and maybe since its born. From to many directions are coming news which predict the end of it. Beginning with the admission of the problems of Cryptsy and the writing - full of bad news and problems existing within the team of core developers - made by Mike Hearn. Then the strong drop of value of bitcoin within few days (after a fantastic period of stability). I remember the time after MtGox. Was the same situation but the bad news was only one. The bankrupt of MtGox and the bitcoin suffered only this. Today are more. And no one know if will stop here this storm. Will survive bitcoin? I think yes. But only the time will verified this. If yes I will be again back to this post and thread to remember this very bad moment for everyone who like bitcoin and has followed and believed on it.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: Sereneum on January 16, 2016, 01:38:00 PM
He has, but why should we really care, due to the story more people will probably here about bitcoin...... ;D  and you know that anynews is good news its PR.  Bitcoin is still working it aint broken.  untill i see my node actually shit itself infront of me i'm gona keep buying..... ;D

This made me laugh and yeah, I agree. It still seems to be working pretty well for what I want to use it for.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: HeroCat on January 16, 2016, 01:42:25 PM
Bitcoin market is very large and with worldwide spreading. So it will be stable in future, and some changes in BTC price can be always  ;)


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: 7425504 on January 16, 2016, 01:51:52 PM
I sold My 30BTC @ 406$ , to get some Fiat?
what i did was right Or wrong ? would like to hear from you guys.
I think you are right, bitcoin will not die, but may have a period of ice, let us look forward to bitcoin's return, the price rise


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on January 16, 2016, 01:52:29 PM
Mike failed. Bitcoin moves on.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: ShakinHandz on January 16, 2016, 01:52:39 PM
There is a very bad situation for bitcoin since I remember to know it and maybe since its born. From to many directions are coming news which predict the end of it. Beginning with the admission of the problems of Cryptsy and the writing - full of bad news and problems existing within the team of core developers - made by Mike Hearn. Then the strong drop of value of bitcoin within few days (after a fantastic period of stability). I remember the time after MtGox. Was the same situation but the bad news was only one. The bankrupt of MtGox and the bitcoin suffered only this. Today are more. And no one know if will stop here this storm. Will survive bitcoin? I think yes. But only the time will verified this. If yes I will be again back to this post and thread to remember this very bad moment for everyone who like bitcoin and has followed and believed on it.

will sure look for it , any situation will be favorable for me , i have seen time when bitcoin was 45 usd.
I am just shocked to see the news.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: Etoiliste on January 16, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
Mike failed. Bitcoin moves on.
yeah i don't think that the major holders of bitcoin can let it go dawn easily because there is all new companys that deals with bitcoin and it could just be a way to Mike get more profits when bitcoin goes down he buys more and then sellit back when it gets higher


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: Anddos on January 27, 2016, 08:14:45 PM
Even though the price goes up and down everyday still he got a good price IMO. But I still don't think that bitcoin will die.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: onlinedragon on January 27, 2016, 08:48:21 PM
When one leaves another one will join the team. Or don't they work that way like an normal company.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: RodeoX on January 27, 2016, 08:51:51 PM
Mike failed. Bitcoin moves on.
I heard Mike failed because he's not backed by anything! And he's a ponzi!!!  :D

lol, na. Best of luck Mike.  ;)


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: TippingPoint on January 28, 2016, 01:35:06 AM
Dogs howl, but the caravan moves on.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: MRKLYE on January 28, 2016, 01:40:08 AM
Mike failed. Bitcoin moves on.

Hahahaha. THIS.

Thank you for finding the words I was looking for.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: kevin go on January 28, 2016, 02:17:42 AM
in which part bitcoin has failed?
i dont think so..still many people using bitcoin and looking for bitcoin.price is going to stable right now..not too high and low..
or mike just fail in trading or gambling or got into ponzi site?


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: robelneo on January 28, 2016, 08:58:21 AM
I sold My 30BTC @ 406$ , to get some Fiat?
what i did was right Or wrong ? would like to hear from you guys.
It is right if you bought it for $350 or less and if the your bitcoins comes from mining and you have profited from that amount then you have made the right decision,but I'm sure you still have some bitcoin there because,it's on the rebound and could worth 50% higher than it was before the negative news two weeks ago


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: jacktheking on January 28, 2016, 09:33:07 AM
I read about this news the other day. However I did not have the chance or time to comment about this event. Well, it is sad to know that one of the lead developer is quitting Bitcoin and supporting another version of Bitcoin. I am on the middle side. I just want to see cryptocurrency sucess. I hope that the both sides will come together and make a deal. This may lead Bitcoin a better route toward becoming the global currency.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: LarryHocks on January 28, 2016, 10:43:11 AM
The experiment may have some turbulence, but is by a long shot, not failed.
More time is needed for a appropriate solution.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: romero121 on January 28, 2016, 11:13:23 AM
various lead developers has quit over the existence of bitcoin still it had come after a long run making various statements false. Before few weeks too there is a statement that bursted as bitcoin in death. Now too its surviving just because it is developed in a manner not to fail just overcome.


Title: Re: Lead developer quits bitcoin saying it 'has failed'
Post by: European Central Bank on January 28, 2016, 11:44:48 AM
I think the dude has some good points. It's a shame he made them in a such a hysterical drama queen way. I don't think he's done himself or anyone or anything else any favors.