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Title: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: sakiman on January 16, 2016, 06:06:11 AM
I've installed bitcoin core a few months ago, and I'm 100% sure that I've never set any passphrase. Today I've got my first bitcoins, but when I've tried to send them it asked for a passphrase.

Is there some default passphrase that gets set when I install bitcoin core, or maybe I've been hacked? Anyone else had this problem?


Title: Re: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: notlist3d on January 16, 2016, 06:54:34 AM
I've installed bitcoin core a few months ago, and I'm 100% sure that I've never set any passphrase. Today I've got my first bitcoins, but when I've tried to send them it asked for a passphrase.

Is there some default passphrase that gets set when I install bitcoin core, or maybe I've been hacked? Anyone else had this problem?

You should know it.   I'm hoping you did not set a passphrase and forget it. This is from Armory wallet but it I think is true with core aswesll:

Your passphrase is the encryption key for your wallet, and thus you are in the same shoes as a potential attacker if you forget it — it will be nearly impossible to recover the wallet unless you can remember substantial portions of the passphrase. The more you can remember, the more likely you will be able to recover it. However, in nearly all cases, you will need to hire someone with knowledge of encryption and who has access to a lot of computing power. For reference, if you use a completely random 6-character passphrase for your wallet, and you cannot remember anything about it, it will take your computer up to 900 years to recover your wallet. However, if you remember most pieces of your password, an expert may be able to help you recover your wallet in a few days. - https://support.bitcoinarmory.com/kb/article/30-forgot-wallet-encryption-passphrase-password


Title: Re: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: Amph on January 16, 2016, 07:25:57 AM
why the hacker should put a passphrase if he was able to move your coins? seems no-sense to me

probably someone else had access to your computer and added the passphrase?


Title: Re: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: sakiman on January 16, 2016, 08:28:10 AM
I've installed bitcoin core a few months ago, and I'm 100% sure that I've never set any passphrase. Today I've got my first bitcoins, but when I've tried to send them it asked for a passphrase.

Is there some default passphrase that gets set when I install bitcoin core, or maybe I've been hacked? Anyone else had this problem?

You should know it.   I'm hoping you did not set a passphrase and forget it. This is from Armory wallet but it I think is true with core aswesll:

Your passphrase is the encryption key for your wallet, and thus you are in the same shoes as a potential attacker if you forget it — it will be nearly impossible to recover the wallet unless you can remember substantial portions of the passphrase. The more you can remember, the more likely you will be able to recover it. However, in nearly all cases, you will need to hire someone with knowledge of encryption and who has access to a lot of computing power. For reference, if you use a completely random 6-character passphrase for your wallet, and you cannot remember anything about it, it will take your computer up to 900 years to recover your wallet. However, if you remember most pieces of your password, an expert may be able to help you recover your wallet in a few days. - https://support.bitcoinarmory.com/kb/article/30-forgot-wallet-encryption-passphrase-password

Problem is not in forgeting passphrase, problem is that I've never even set a passphrase to begin with but it's still asking me for one. I wasn't even able to put passphrase. When I installed bitcoin core and tried to set the paraphrase it asked me for the "old passphrase" in order to set the new one, but what do I enter in the "old passphrase" when I've never even set a passphrase before?



Title: Re: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: VirosaGITS on January 16, 2016, 08:31:09 AM
I've installed bitcoin core a few months ago, and I'm 100% sure that I've never set any passphrase. Today I've got my first bitcoins, but when I've tried to send them it asked for a passphrase.

Is there some default passphrase that gets set when I install bitcoin core, or maybe I've been hacked? Anyone else had this problem?

You should know it.   I'm hoping you did not set a passphrase and forget it. This is from Armory wallet but it I think is true with core aswesll:

Your passphrase is the encryption key for your wallet, and thus you are in the same shoes as a potential attacker if you forget it — it will be nearly impossible to recover the wallet unless you can remember substantial portions of the passphrase. The more you can remember, the more likely you will be able to recover it. However, in nearly all cases, you will need to hire someone with knowledge of encryption and who has access to a lot of computing power. For reference, if you use a completely random 6-character passphrase for your wallet, and you cannot remember anything about it, it will take your computer up to 900 years to recover your wallet. However, if you remember most pieces of your password, an expert may be able to help you recover your wallet in a few days. - https://support.bitcoinarmory.com/kb/article/30-forgot-wallet-encryption-passphrase-password

Problem is not in forgeting passphrase, problem is that I've never even set a passphrase to begin with but it's still asking me for one. I wasn't even able to put passphrase. When I installed bitcoin core and tried to set the paraphrase it asked me for the "old passphrase" in order to set the new one, but what do I enter in the "old passphrase" when I've never even set a passphrase before?



There is not one by default, so the only possible explanation according to what you're saying is that when you installed Bitcoincore, it was installed atop an already existing wallet, so that when you loaded Bitcoincore, the wallet it had was already encrypted.


Title: Re: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: sakiman on January 16, 2016, 08:45:08 AM
I've installed bitcoin core a few months ago, and I'm 100% sure that I've never set any passphrase. Today I've got my first bitcoins, but when I've tried to send them it asked for a passphrase.

Is there some default passphrase that gets set when I install bitcoin core, or maybe I've been hacked? Anyone else had this problem?

You should know it.   I'm hoping you did not set a passphrase and forget it. This is from Armory wallet but it I think is true with core aswesll:

Your passphrase is the encryption key for your wallet, and thus you are in the same shoes as a potential attacker if you forget it — it will be nearly impossible to recover the wallet unless you can remember substantial portions of the passphrase. The more you can remember, the more likely you will be able to recover it. However, in nearly all cases, you will need to hire someone with knowledge of encryption and who has access to a lot of computing power. For reference, if you use a completely random 6-character passphrase for your wallet, and you cannot remember anything about it, it will take your computer up to 900 years to recover your wallet. However, if you remember most pieces of your password, an expert may be able to help you recover your wallet in a few days. - https://support.bitcoinarmory.com/kb/article/30-forgot-wallet-encryption-passphrase-password

Problem is not in forgeting passphrase, problem is that I've never even set a passphrase to begin with but it's still asking me for one. I wasn't even able to put passphrase. When I installed bitcoin core and tried to set the paraphrase it asked me for the "old passphrase" in order to set the new one, but what do I enter in the "old passphrase" when I've never even set a passphrase before?



There is not one by default, so the only possible explanation according to what you're saying is that when you installed Bitcoincore, it was installed atop an already existing wallet, so that when you loaded Bitcoincore, the wallet it had was already encrypted.

That's probabbly it, I've had bitcoin core on my computer before so I've probabbly installed new instance on top of that wallet.


Title: Re: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: VirosaGITS on January 16, 2016, 08:47:23 AM
I've installed bitcoin core a few months ago, and I'm 100% sure that I've never set any passphrase. Today I've got my first bitcoins, but when I've tried to send them it asked for a passphrase.

Is there some default passphrase that gets set when I install bitcoin core, or maybe I've been hacked? Anyone else had this problem?

You should know it.   I'm hoping you did not set a passphrase and forget it. This is from Armory wallet but it I think is true with core aswesll:

Your passphrase is the encryption key for your wallet, and thus you are in the same shoes as a potential attacker if you forget it — it will be nearly impossible to recover the wallet unless you can remember substantial portions of the passphrase. The more you can remember, the more likely you will be able to recover it. However, in nearly all cases, you will need to hire someone with knowledge of encryption and who has access to a lot of computing power. For reference, if you use a completely random 6-character passphrase for your wallet, and you cannot remember anything about it, it will take your computer up to 900 years to recover your wallet. However, if you remember most pieces of your password, an expert may be able to help you recover your wallet in a few days. - https://support.bitcoinarmory.com/kb/article/30-forgot-wallet-encryption-passphrase-password

Problem is not in forgeting passphrase, problem is that I've never even set a passphrase to begin with but it's still asking me for one. I wasn't even able to put passphrase. When I installed bitcoin core and tried to set the paraphrase it asked me for the "old passphrase" in order to set the new one, but what do I enter in the "old passphrase" when I've never even set a passphrase before?



There is not one by default, so the only possible explanation according to what you're saying is that when you installed Bitcoincore, it was installed atop an already existing wallet, so that when you loaded Bitcoincore, the wallet it had was already encrypted.

That's probabbly it, I've had bitcoin core on my computer before so I've probabbly installed new instance on top of that wallet.

Ergo, you set a passphrase and you forgot about it. I hope you can remember your passcode.


Title: Re: I've never set a paraphrase, but bitcoin core is still asking for it
Post by: notlist3d on January 16, 2016, 09:39:56 PM
I've installed bitcoin core a few months ago, and I'm 100% sure that I've never set any passphrase. Today I've got my first bitcoins, but when I've tried to send them it asked for a passphrase.

Is there some default passphrase that gets set when I install bitcoin core, or maybe I've been hacked? Anyone else had this problem?

You should know it.   I'm hoping you did not set a passphrase and forget it. This is from Armory wallet but it I think is true with core aswesll:

Your passphrase is the encryption key for your wallet, and thus you are in the same shoes as a potential attacker if you forget it — it will be nearly impossible to recover the wallet unless you can remember substantial portions of the passphrase. The more you can remember, the more likely you will be able to recover it. However, in nearly all cases, you will need to hire someone with knowledge of encryption and who has access to a lot of computing power. For reference, if you use a completely random 6-character passphrase for your wallet, and you cannot remember anything about it, it will take your computer up to 900 years to recover your wallet. However, if you remember most pieces of your password, an expert may be able to help you recover your wallet in a few days. - https://support.bitcoinarmory.com/kb/article/30-forgot-wallet-encryption-passphrase-password

Problem is not in forgeting passphrase, problem is that I've never even set a passphrase to begin with but it's still asking me for one. I wasn't even able to put passphrase. When I installed bitcoin core and tried to set the paraphrase it asked me for the "old passphrase" in order to set the new one, but what do I enter in the "old passphrase" when I've never even set a passphrase before?



There is not one by default, so the only possible explanation according to what you're saying is that when you installed Bitcoincore, it was installed atop an already existing wallet, so that when you loaded Bitcoincore, the wallet it had was already encrypted.

That's probabbly it, I've had bitcoin core on my computer before so I've probabbly installed new instance on top of that wallet.

Ergo, you set a passphrase and you forgot about it. I hope you can remember your passcode.

OP did you already send all the BTC to the wallet?  I'm hoping you tested it and did not did not see that part off story.

When doing a wallet you really do have to give it full attention.  If you don't know something it's better to ask before.   Also there are a lot of good wallet options with great instructions so if someone is new I suggest reading some of those.