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Title: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: saddampbuh on January 16, 2016, 11:37:49 PM
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ISLAMABAD:
Another move to ban child marriages in Pakistan has fallen at the first hurdle. The bill to prohibit underage marriages has been withdrawn after the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) declared it un-Islamic.

The ruling party lawmaker, who moved the bill, withdrew her proposal on Thursday following staunch resistance from the council, which advises the legislature whether or not a certain law is Sharia-compliant.

The National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Religious Affairs and Interfaith Harmony rejected the Child Marriage Restraint (Amendment) Bill 2014 after the CII dubbed it ‘anti-Islamic’ and ‘blasphemous’.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1027742/settled-matter-bill-aiming-to-ban-child-marriages-shot-down/


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: iCeSaiah on January 16, 2016, 11:45:54 PM
This happens due to some settlements right? like debts and others. In my own opinion you cant just marry a young just because u felt in love with her?

Well I don't mean to offend but knew that because of some common notion. Feel free to enlighten me.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: salinizm on January 17, 2016, 12:23:50 PM
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ISLAMABAD:
Another move to ban child marriages in Pakistan has fallen at the first hurdle. The bill to prohibit underage marriages has been withdrawn after the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) declared it un-Islamic.

The ruling party lawmaker, who moved the bill, withdrew her proposal on Thursday following staunch resistance from the council, which advises the legislature whether or not a certain law is Sharia-compliant.

The National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Religious Affairs and Interfaith Harmony rejected the Child Marriage Restraint (Amendment) Bill 2014 after the CII dubbed it ‘anti-Islamic’ and ‘blasphemous’.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1027742/settled-matter-bill-aiming-to-ban-child-marriages-shot-down/

child marriages is not islamic.. these so called politics exploits some islamic rules for the sake of their pedofolic tendencies.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: vero on January 17, 2016, 04:11:06 PM
I'm quite simply disgusted that an adult man would not want to ban this disgusting abuse of girls.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 17, 2016, 06:18:11 PM
I'm quite simply disgusted that an adult man would not want to ban this disgusting abuse of girls.

In Pakistan, young boys are abused more often than young girls. In this part of the world, anyone without a beard is considered as a female, be it a 5-year old boy, a camel, or a buffalo. It is very common in Pakistan for the rich Muslims to have male sex slaves, who are often in their pre-teens or early teens. The situation is same in the eastern parts of Afghanistan as well.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 17, 2016, 07:36:03 PM
Seems in USA a woman/man is "child" until she/he is in High School.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: ACAB on January 17, 2016, 09:24:57 PM
That's right. Their religion Islam is ok with children marriage. In fact if the children is 17 years old they are "staying at home". That means they have to marry someone older before 16th age. Sad but truth in 21st century.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: countryfree on January 17, 2016, 11:44:16 PM
60 years ago in the US, in Tennessee or Louisiana, I'm not sure, a man could marry a girl aged 13. The laws have changed, but in most of Europe as well, not long ago, I mean last century, it was possible to marry a girl aged 14. We've changed, they haven't.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 18, 2016, 02:10:19 AM
60 years ago in the US, in Tennessee or Louisiana, I'm not sure, a man could marry a girl aged 13. The laws have changed, but in most of Europe as well, not long ago, I mean last century, it was possible to marry a girl aged 14. We've changed, they haven't.

Marrying a 15-year old is not the same as marrying a 5-year old. In the 19th century United States, a lot of marriages occurred when both the bride and the groom were 15-years or 16-years old. On the other hand, in Pakistan the norm is that the bride will be 5 or 6 years old, and the groom might be in his 60s or 70s. The age difference is huge.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: otrkid70 on January 18, 2016, 02:23:12 AM
Sharia Law is fucked up and Backwards.   Plain and simple!

No matter how you word it or defend it......This thinking is Backwards and is not right.

The year is 2016 ....People have basic rights to live as they see fit without being stoned to death or thrown off buildings or burned to death no matter what your god says.

Fucking Barbarians.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 18, 2016, 09:16:57 AM
it was possible to marry a girl aged 14. We've changed, they haven't.

Check Wikipedia about the number of mothers in Europe under age of 15 :)


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Snail2 on January 18, 2016, 09:54:18 AM
it was possible to marry a girl aged 14. We've changed, they haven't.

Check Wikipedia about the number of mothers in Europe under age of 15 :)

Indeed, but over here nobody will be praised for that :). BTW a large part of these underage pregnancies happening between gypsies. Gypsies are actually came from Pakistan, so I'm not surprised.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 18, 2016, 10:32:14 AM
Indeed, but over here nobody will be praised for that :). BTW a large part of these underage pregnancies happening between gypsies. Gypsies are actually came from Pakistan, so I'm not surprised.

The gypsies account for some 50% of the underage pregnancies in Europe. The remaining are mostly European girls impregnated by the Muslim immigrants. Just in one city in England (Rotherham), more than 1,400 girls were sexually abused by these migrants. The population of Rotherham is just 0.15% of that of England. Now do the calculation, and estimate how many girls are abused every year by these savages.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 18, 2016, 10:32:43 AM
between gypsies. Gypsies are actually came from Pakistan, so I'm not surprised.

Wrong.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 18, 2016, 10:34:01 AM
1,400 girls were sexually abused by these migrants

Have You some data about abuses in Russian Federation?

"Sexual abuse" is not "rape", right?


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Snail2 on January 18, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
between gypsies. Gypsies are actually came from Pakistan, so I'm not surprised.

Wrong.

According to the genetic and linguistic evidence they are originated from the region what is Rajasthan, Punjab region, Sindh (and small parts are Baluchistan) today. That's mostly Pakistan in these days.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: enhu on January 18, 2016, 12:04:40 PM
I'm quite simply disgusted that an adult man would not want to ban this disgusting abuse of girls.

In Pakistan, young boys are abused more often than young girls. In this part of the world, anyone without a beard is considered as a female, be it a 5-year old boy, a camel, or a buffalo. It is very common in Pakistan for the rich Muslims to have male sex slaves, who are often in their pre-teens or early teens. The situation is same in the eastern parts of Afghanistan as well.

ohno. I guess the story in a movie "the kite runner" is true then. it s about the war and culture in those areas. They show one situation where a son of employee was abused by the employer, he was was sexual abused over and over.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: croato on January 18, 2016, 01:02:02 PM
As long as they stay in their shitholes, i dont care much what they do there. Problem is they spread their dirt around globe and that should be stopped by governments and law before people take law in their hands. Most of Muslims will never assimilate and most of civilized will sooner or later get enough of their sick behavior and traditions so you figure it out what will happen at end.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 18, 2016, 01:28:36 PM
Most of Muslims will never assimilate

Why muslims need to assimilate to buddhists or other politheists/atheists?
You have no idea in Shariah law and in Islam.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 18, 2016, 02:11:32 PM
As long as they stay in their shitholes, i dont care much what they do there. Problem is they spread their dirt around globe and that should be stopped by governments and law before people take law in their hands.

It is not entirely their fault though. Have you ever thought why these barbarians are migrating only to Europe? Why they are not migrating to Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, or even Hong Kong? Have you ever thought why they are not migrating to Kuwait or Qatar? All these countries are even more prosperous than Poland or Slovakia.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 18, 2016, 02:24:20 PM
Have you ever thought why these barbarians are migrating only to Europe?
http://photocdn4.itar-tass.com/width/744_b12f2926/tass/m2/uploads/i/20141216/3920063.jpg
Who tell it to You?
Check data in how much accept Russian Federation from Syria and Iraq + Africa.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 18, 2016, 02:31:03 PM
Who tell it to You?
Check data in how much accept Russian Federation from Syria and Iraq + Africa.

Russia is already dealing with millions of refugees from Ukraine. They can't take any more. Even Belarus is home to more than 100,000 refugees from Ukraine. These countries are saturated with refugees. Also, the Russian social welfare payments to immigrants are not that attractive to the Muslim immigrants. The climate is another factor.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Vika NSFW on January 18, 2016, 02:54:00 PM

Russia is already dealing with millions of refugees from Ukraine. They can't take any more.

Wrong, there are few REFUGEES from Ukraine. Russian Federation give very hard the status of refugee.
Those people from Ukraine are "temporally displaced persons" or something, but no refugees.
Don't forghet, that "Ukraina" was a part of Russian Empire and "Ucrainians" are the same ethnic group of magiority Russian Federation.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: BADecker on January 18, 2016, 09:19:06 PM
Christianity doesn't talk about child marriage. Rather, Christianity talks about love. In all but severe cases, with extremely messed up conditions, child marriage is not love. Love has to do with waiting for the child to become an adult, and then guiding him or her to make their own decision based on both love and wisdom.

In Islamic states, child marriage can be a protection for a child where there is no other way to protect the child. For example. A man who is a master and owner of property and slaves, might fall in love with a slave woman and create a female child by her. Because marrying the slave woman might endanger his estate, and both of their lives, neither the woman nor the master would want to get married. So, to protect the female child that is his daughter secretly, but is a slave by birth outside of marriage, the master marries her... but would never even think of having sex with her.

:)


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 19, 2016, 03:14:25 AM
Christianity doesn't talk about child marriage. Rather, Christianity talks about love.

Some Christian sects do practice child marriage, even now. An example is the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS), which is having several communities in the United States (Hildale, Colorado City.etc) and Canada. Several of its members are currently behind bars for either participating or encouraging child marriage.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: acroman08 on January 19, 2016, 10:31:38 AM
Christianity doesn't talk about child marriage. Rather, Christianity talks about love.

Some Christian sects do practice child marriage, even now. An example is the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS), which is having several communities in the United States (Hildale, Colorado City.etc) and Canada. Several of its members are currently behind bars for either participating or encouraging child marriage.

I think this people are doing it for their own pleasure, christian doesn't even allow under age relationship but they cant stop it. But in Muslim child marriage is a tradition just like adult marriage.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: designerusa on January 24, 2016, 06:29:15 PM
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ISLAMABAD:
Another move to ban child marriages in Pakistan has fallen at the first hurdle. The bill to prohibit underage marriages has been withdrawn after the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) declared it un-Islamic.

The ruling party lawmaker, who moved the bill, withdrew her proposal on Thursday following staunch resistance from the council, which advises the legislature whether or not a certain law is Sharia-compliant.

The National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Religious Affairs and Interfaith Harmony rejected the Child Marriage Restraint (Amendment) Bill 2014 after the CII dubbed it ‘anti-Islamic’ and ‘blasphemous’.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1027742/settled-matter-bill-aiming-to-ban-child-marriages-shot-down/

they will never ban child marriage because the law makers in pakistan can marry with underage child without hesitation... they are pedofolic and they even cant confess it to themselves..


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Racey on January 24, 2016, 06:36:12 PM
I'm quite simply disgusted that an adult man would not want to ban this disgusting abuse of girls.

And especially the parents of these children, they let this happen WTF is wrong with these people.


Title: Re: Pakistan wont ban child marriage because un-islamic
Post by: Ernstew on January 30, 2016, 02:42:41 PM
Its common situation there child marriages..girls about 8 or 9 married to much old man. Even if there is a law against that, maybe will be done something in Islamabad, in rural areas nothing will change...In some other countries where child marriage is forbidden they simple do this without registration and imam do the ritual..so nothing strange.