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Title: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: ridery99 on January 19, 2016, 10:54:06 AM
The vast and growing gap between rich and poor has been laid bare in a new Oxfam report showing that the 62 richest billionaires own as much wealth as the poorer half of the world’s population.

Timed to coincide with this week’s gathering of many of the super-rich at the annual World Economic Forum in Davos, the report calls for urgent action to deal with a trend showing that 1% of people own more wealth than the other 99% combined.


http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined)


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: ridery99 on January 19, 2016, 10:55:56 AM
Related:

So much for trickle down: only bold reforms will tackle inequality

Even the IMF recognises the vicious circle in which inequality breeds instability, which causes recession and spending cuts that make inequality worse


http://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2015/jun/21/so-much-for-trickle-down-bold-reforms-are-required-to-tackle-inequality (http://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2015/jun/21/so-much-for-trickle-down-bold-reforms-are-required-to-tackle-inequality)


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: iCeSaiah on January 19, 2016, 12:44:53 PM
I think this billionaires are really donating through charity. The problem why we really cant see they are helping is because some of there donations doesnt really go to intended beneficiaries.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 19, 2016, 01:02:35 PM
I'd just like to ask a question:

What would happen if there was like 1000 people in a room, 1 of them has a tremendous amount of food, 10 of them have enough food to it as they wish and the rest of them are starving?

Well the rest of the people would kill the one with so much food and eat as much as they want.

Why aren't we doing it in our word? The difference between what I said and our world is that it's like a huge room with 7 billions people from which 1 billion has just enough to eat to live correctly and 6 billions have nothing they can rely to. While a few hundreds people have so much we can't even see them belong what they possess.

It would be time to remind them that they "possess" nothing. Not if the rest of the world wants or need it.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: Francis Freeman on January 19, 2016, 01:37:14 PM
This is because only few people are able to make money.
If you see the list of the most wealthy people you could easily notice the most of them started from the bottom: Larry Ellison, Carlos Slim, Amancio Ortega and so on... they weren't born "rich", they became rich with their abilites.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 19, 2016, 01:47:29 PM
I'd just like to ask a question:

What would happen if there was like 1000 people in a room, 1 of them has a tremendous amount of food, 10 of them have enough food to it as they wish and the rest of them are starving?

Well the rest of the people would kill the one with so much food and eat as much as they want.

Why aren't we doing it in our word? The difference between what I said and our world is that it's like a huge room with 7 billions people from which 1 billion has just enough to eat to live correctly and 6 billions have nothing they can rely to. While a few hundreds people have so much we can't even see them belong what they possess.

It would be time to remind them that they "possess" nothing. Not if the rest of the world wants or need it.
because for everyone to "live correctly" according to our standards we would need between 3 and 5 planet earths to sustain them all at that level with all the extra fuel usage and food production that would entail. 7 (soon to be 9) billion people are never going to have a western standard of living and its time everyone accepted that and looked at ways of reducing the population sizes of poor countries.

your 1000 people in a room scenario possibly works if we're just looking at civilised countries but it doesn't work if most of those people are africans and aboriginal central americans with low iqs who keep having more kids than they can support with no idea how to manage their resources in a sustainable way


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 19, 2016, 01:50:57 PM
This is because only few people are able to make money.
If you see the list of the most wealthy people you could easily notice the most of them started from the bottom: Larry Ellison, Carlos Slim, Amancio Ortega and so on... they weren't born "rich", they became rich with their abilites.

Wrooooooooooooooooooooooooooong!!!

That's just the shit that the "American dream" wants you to believe.

Go to Forbes list of 500 richest people and look a bit. Yes there is bill gates. He's the first one. Great. Ellison and Slim too ok.
Now look at the others: most of them are from a rather rich family. That doesn't mean they did nothing, that just means that the richest families continue to become richer and richer.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 19, 2016, 01:55:09 PM
I'd just like to ask a question:

What would happen if there was like 1000 people in a room, 1 of them has a tremendous amount of food, 10 of them have enough food to it as they wish and the rest of them are starving?

Well the rest of the people would kill the one with so much food and eat as much as they want.

Why aren't we doing it in our word? The difference between what I said and our world is that it's like a huge room with 7 billions people from which 1 billion has just enough to eat to live correctly and 6 billions have nothing they can rely to. While a few hundreds people have so much we can't even see them belong what they possess.

It would be time to remind them that they "possess" nothing. Not if the rest of the world wants or need it.
because for everyone to "live correctly" according to our standards we would need between 3 and 5 planet earths to sustain them all at that level with all the extra fuel usage and food production that would entail. 7 (soon to be 9) billion people are never going to have a western standard of living and its time everyone accepted that and looked at ways of reducing the population sizes of poor countries.

your 1000 people in a room scenario possibly works if we're just looking at civilised countries but it doesn't work if most of those people are africans and aboriginal central americans with low iqs who keep having more kids than they can support with no idea how to manage their resources in a sustainable way

How narrow minded and false your commentary is  ::)

Here is a small link to understand how wrong you are: http://persquaremile.com/2012/08/08/if-the-worlds-population-lived-like/

Problem is just the way of life, not the number of humans. The "low IQs people" as you say, are the only one correctly managing Earth resources, while your incredibly intelligent Americans are consuming 4 times the resources the Earth can provide.

Stop blaming the others for your own incapacity to live in a sustainable way buddy. Assume the fact that you're killing the world in which your children will have to live, you'll be responsible for it, not the Africans.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 19, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
How narrow minded and false your commentary is  ::)

Here is a small link to understand how wrong you are: http://persquaremile.com/2012/08/08/if-the-worlds-population-lived-like/

Problem is just the way of life, not the number of humans. The "low IQs people" as you say, are the only one correctly managing Earth resources, while your incredibly intelligent Americans are consuming 4 times the resources the Earth can provide.

Stop blaming the others for your own incapacity to live in a sustainable way buddy. Assume the fact that you're killing the world in which your children will have to live, you'll be responsible for it, not the Africans.
doubling your population every couple of generations is not sustainable.

you can call it 4 planets worth or you can say there are 4 times too many people on the 1 planet we have. better a couple of billion people having cars, protein rich diets and only having to work 40 hours a week than 9 billion people all living like indian slum dwellers.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: GTO911 on January 19, 2016, 04:24:46 PM
Very simple, eliminate the billions of piss poor good for nothing third world people.

Problem Solved


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: freemind1 on January 19, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
Always been so and always will be the same. So few live well many more must live worse. It is what happens for example with the working class people compared to the third world.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: ace45954 on January 19, 2016, 11:22:02 PM
How narrow minded and false your commentary is  ::)

Here is a small link to understand how wrong you are: http://persquaremile.com/2012/08/08/if-the-worlds-population-lived-like/

Problem is just the way of life, not the number of humans. The "low IQs people" as you say, are the only one correctly managing Earth resources, while your incredibly intelligent Americans are consuming 4 times the resources the Earth can provide.

Stop blaming the others for your own incapacity to live in a sustainable way buddy. Assume the fact that you're killing the world in which your children will have to live, you'll be responsible for it, not the Africans.
doubling your population every couple of generations is not sustainable.

you can call it 4 planets worth or you can say there are 4 times too many people on the 1 planet we have. better a couple of billion people having cars, protein rich diets and only having to work 40 hours a week than 9 billion people all living like indian slum dwellers.
But the earth's population isn't doubling. In fact the human population growth rate is slowing quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwfH1gYkXTw
In a few decades, human population will level off somewhere around 9-10 billion or so. There is enough food in the world to feed over 11 billion iirc assuming the food was evenly distributed.

In addition, standards of living are improving, even the vast majority 3rd world countries are significantly better now than they were just 10 years ago.
"In 1990, the percentage of the global population living in extreme poverty was 43.1%, but in 2010, that percentage had dropped down to 20.6%."


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 20, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
But the earth's population isn't doubling. In fact the human population growth rate is slowing quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwfH1gYkXTw
In a few decades, human population will level off somewhere around 9-10 billion or so. There is enough food in the world to feed over 11 billion iirc assuming the food was evenly distributed.

In addition, standards of living are improving, even the vast majority 3rd world countries are significantly better now than they were just 10 years ago.
"In 1990, the percentage of the global population living in extreme poverty was 43.1%, but in 2010, that percentage had dropped down to 20.6%."
third world peoples are better off largely because they are burning coal and destroying forests and beautiful wildlife to make more space for their cities and even distribution would result in a drastic drop in our (the civilised countries) quality of life. for example right now i get to eat meat every day, should i agree to eat it only once a week so that 5 billion africans who didn't need to be born can also eat it once a week instead of never? i don't think so.

the third world population has been expanding rapidly and will peak at about 9 billion as you say, the current population of nigeria was same as the population of the whole of africa when my mother was born. the 7 billion people we have now can barely be sustained at current levels of resource consumption let alone 9 billion who are all going to demand electricity, air travel, protein rich diets and whatnot, and will probably engage in revolutions and terrorism to get them. something has to give.

either we reduce the third world population with contraception and sterilisation,  be it forced or connected to international aid, or we agree to have marxism, impoverish ourselves and redistribute most of what we have to poor countries on the basis of to each according to his need. how disgraceful it is that our civilisation produces so many pussies who care more about niggers who aren't born yet than defending there own interests.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 11:06:31 AM
third world peoples are better off largely because they are burning coal and destroying forests and beautiful wildlife to make more space for their cities and even distribution would result in a drastic drop in our (the civilised countries) quality of life. for example right now i get to eat meat every day, should i agree to eat it only once a week so that 5 billion africans who didn't need to be born can also eat it once a week instead of never? i don't think so.

5 billion africans who didn't need to be born? Seriously?
And you're totally wrong. 90% of deforestation comes from agriculture. Which mostly leads to meat production. You're by far more responsible of deforestation than the expansion of third world cities you moron.

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the third world population has been expanding rapidly and will peak at about 9 billion as you say, the current population of nigeria was same as the population of the whole of africa when my mother was born. the 7 billion people we have now can barely be sustained at current levels of resource consumption let alone 9 billion who are all going to demand electricity, air travel, protein rich diets and whatnot, and will probably engage in revolutions and terrorism to get them. something has to give.

So the fact that our western countries have known THE EXACT SAME PHENOMENON of demographic growth doesn't count? It means that as we reproduced like rabbits a century ago they can't do it now?
What hypocrisy...

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either we reduce the third world population with contraception and sterilisation,  be it forced or connected to international aid, or we agree to have marxism, impoverish ourselves and redistribute most of what we have to poor countries on the basis of to each according to his need. how disgraceful it is that our civilisation produces so many pussies who care more about niggers who aren't born yet than defending there own interests.


Ok on this one you definitely are the dumbest and most horrible kind of person possible. Don't you understand anything? They consume in order to produce things FOR US!

But at least you are right on the fact that killing all of them would answer the problem... But who will cultivate your corns? Make your clothes? Produce your computers?
Of course we can kill them all. But I hope you agree to work 20h a day as they do eating a bawl of rice a day.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: Lauda on January 20, 2016, 11:16:14 AM
I wouldn't mind much if they were actually using a lot of their money for something meaningful. Just imagine what a $1 Trillion R&D budget could to for a few technologies.

Very simple, eliminate the billions of piss poor good for nothing third world people.

Problem Solved
Even if you put those out of equation (I'm not saying that I'd support your proposal), they're exponentially richer than a lot of 1st world people combined.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 11:24:56 AM
I wouldn't mind much if they were actually using a lot of their money for something meaningful. Just imagine what a $1 Trillion R&D budget could to for a few technologies.

Totally true. The problem is that in our modern society, money=power so concentration of money means concentration of power. Having few people filthily rich means they can do whatever they want.

If what they wanted was the greater good, I wouldn't mind. Problem is it's not the case, power calls for power so they only want more. That's why it should be regulated. What one man can do of dozens of billions of dollars anyway? You could take 90% of what he has he wouldn't even know it xD


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: Snail2 on January 20, 2016, 12:26:24 PM
This is a spectacular illustration about how flawed the keynesian model really is. But this was known since ages, so I don't understand why this is so surprising for some.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 12:35:38 PM
This is a spectacular illustration about how flawed the keynesian model really is. But this was known since ages, so I don't understand why this is so surprising for some.

THANK YOU!

Somedy seeing the truth here ^^
The keynesian model is an abomination. It was a good idea for a transition but can't be a finished model. The reason why it's still taught in universities around the world is because the people who benefit from this model don't want to change that's all.

The simple idea of an economy needing growth to be in good health is the more stupid and delusional idea ever!


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 20, 2016, 02:13:48 PM
5 billion africans who didn't need to be born? Seriously?
And you're totally wrong. 90% of deforestation comes from agriculture. Which mostly leads to meat production. You're by far more responsible of deforestation than the expansion of third world cities you moron.
there is currently enough land to provide meat for a couple of billion europeans, koreans and japs, along with some of the chinese elite and higher grade indians. there is not enough land to produce meat for billions of peasants.

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So the fact that our western countries have known THE EXACT SAME PHENOMENON of demographic growth doesn't count? It means that as we reproduced like rabbits a century ago they can't do it now?
What hypocrisy...
they can and they are, that doesn't mean i have to like it and call it a wonderful thing. it is going to make us all poorer if we don't do something to stop it and like i told the other guy, i care more about defending the interests of my people than feeding luxury foods to a bunch of savages because i'm not a faggot sjw

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Ok on this one you definitely are the dumbest and most horrible kind of person possible. Don't you understand anything? They consume in order to produce things FOR US!

But at least you are right on the fact that killing all of them would answer the problem... But who will cultivate your corns? Make your clothes? Produce your computers?
Of course we can kill them all. But I hope you agree to work 20h a day as they do eating a bawl of rice a day.
and their consumption wasn't an issue when they were content to have only that bowl of rice but it is becoming a problem now that the internet's given them a glimpse of the good life and they are illegally migrating here in their millions, organising rebellions/terrorism and generally making mischief around the world.

i don't want to "kill them all". i want to reduce their populations to manageable levels with a one child policy.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 02:19:34 PM
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Ok on this one you definitely are the dumbest and most horrible kind of person possible. Don't you understand anything? They consume in order to produce things FOR US!

But at least you are right on the fact that killing all of them would answer the problem... But who will cultivate your corns? Make your clothes? Produce your computers?
Of course we can kill them all. But I hope you agree to work 20h a day as they do eating a bawl of rice a day.
and their consumption wasn't an issue when they were content to have only that bowl of rice but it is becoming a problem now that the internet's given them a glimpse of the good life and they are illegally migrating here in their millions, organising rebellions/terrorism and generally making mischief around the world.

i don't want to "kill them all". i want to reduce their populations to manageable levels with a one child policy.

So who will work 20h a day for your computer man?
They're migrating and organizing rebellions/terrorism only because they refuse to continue being the slave of western countries. But your "european elites" can't live their developed way of life without billions of slaves working for them...

So I'll ask you again, who will produce what you're currently consuming?


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 20, 2016, 02:32:56 PM
So who will work 20h a day for your computer man?
They're migrating and organizing rebellions/terrorism only because they refuse to continue being the slave of western countries. But your "european elites" can't live their developed way of life without billions of slaves working for them...

So I'll ask you again, who will produce what you're currently consuming?
the same people who are producing it now


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
So who will work 20h a day for your computer man?
They're migrating and organizing rebellions/terrorism only because they refuse to continue being the slave of western countries. But your "european elites" can't live their developed way of life without billions of slaves working for them...

So I'll ask you again, who will produce what you're currently consuming?
the same people who are producing it now

But you just said you wanted to put an end to their demographic development in order for everyone to be able to live a more western life  ???

If you want to reduce China/India/Africa population they won't be enough to produce what you consume!


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 20, 2016, 03:06:01 PM
But you just said you wanted to put an end to their demographic development in order for everyone to be able to live a more western life  ???

If you want to reduce China/India/Africa population they won't be enough to produce what you consume!
that's not what i said at all

how did we get from "a couple of billion europeans, koreans and japs, along with some of the chinese elite and higher grade indians" to "everyone" ?


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 03:08:31 PM
But you just said you wanted to put an end to their demographic development in order for everyone to be able to live a more western life  ???

If you want to reduce China/India/Africa population they won't be enough to produce what you consume!
that's not what i said at all

how did we get from "a couple of billion europeans, koreans and japs, along with some of the chinese elite and higher grade indians" to "everyone" ?

So you want them to continue working like dumbass while cutting their demographic growth? Oo

Edit: I'm talking about the billions of Chinese Africans and Indians workers killing themselves at work right now


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: bitsmichel on January 20, 2016, 03:20:13 PM
The vast and growing gap between rich and poor has been laid bare in a new Oxfam report showing that the 62 richest billionaires own as much wealth as the poorer half of the world’s population.
The banks control their money unless they hold crypto-currency.  ::) They are the richest institutions of the world.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 20, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
This is slightly misleading. It is not the individuals who own all this wealth. On the other hand, it is the corporations such as Google, Microsoft, Cargill, Exxon Mobil, Apple, Shell, Chevron, Ford.etc. The individuals only act as a mask for these corporations, and most of the time these individuals are multi-billionaires only in name.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 04:01:23 PM
This is slightly misleading. It is not the individuals who own all this wealth. On the other hand, it is the corporations such as Google, Microsoft, Cargill, Exxon Mobil, Apple, Shell, Chevron, Ford.etc. The individuals only act as a mask for these corporations, and most of the time these individuals are multi-billionaires only in name.

Hmmm... No! That's the main point of the study. It's to study the individuals' wealth. If you take the money and value of the companies the lead then the amounts would be incredibly bigger!


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 20, 2016, 04:48:24 PM
So you want them to continue working like dumbass while cutting their demographic growth? Oo

Edit: I'm talking about the billions of Chinese Africans and Indians workers killing themselves at work right now
yes and so am i


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2016, 04:54:37 PM
So you want them to continue working like dumbass while cutting their demographic growth? Oo

Edit: I'm talking about the billions of Chinese Africans and Indians workers killing themselves at work right now
yes and so am i

Why would they accept working 20h a day then? Oo
Why in the Earth would the continue this way and stoped migrating illegaly or creating terrorist channels???


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 21, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
Why would they accept working 20h a day then? Oo
Why in the Earth would the continue this way and stoped migrating illegaly or creating terrorist channels???
because we have the ability to keep the immigrants out and kill the terrorists, only we don't do anything about it because our leaders are pussies, that changes when the americans elect trump


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 21, 2016, 02:51:13 PM
Why would they accept working 20h a day then? Oo
Why in the Earth would the continue this way and stoped migrating illegaly or creating terrorist channels???
because we have the ability to keep the immigrants out and kill the terrorists, only we don't do anything about it because our leaders are pussies, that changes when the americans elect trump

No we don't. Not a single country in the world or in Mankind history managed to do it. What do you want to do? Build a giant wall to keep immigrants at bay? xD


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 21, 2016, 04:36:57 PM
No we don't. Not a single country in the world or in Mankind history managed to do it. What do you want to do? Build a giant wall to keep immigrants at bay? xD
works for israel


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 21, 2016, 05:30:37 PM
No we don't. Not a single country in the world or in Mankind history managed to do it. What do you want to do? Build a giant wall to keep immigrants at bay? xD
works for israel

Yeah sure, Israel is like so safe, no terrorism at all xD


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 21, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Yeah sure, Israel is like so safe, no terrorism at all xD
it works at keeping out illegal immigrants and the few who get in from time to time are given a choice between prison and deportation. terrorist attacks inside israel are almost always done by people living inside the country since the wall went up because its too hard for anyone to get in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
https://i.imgur.com/ZLLHvrh.png


like them or not, the israeli wall is effective just as sinking migrant boats of lesbos and destroying the libyan ports would be effective. the only difference being the israelis don't pretend to care about somalian and sudanese human trash and our leaders do.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 21, 2016, 07:20:33 PM
Yeah sure, Israel is like so safe, no terrorism at all xD
it works at keeping out illegal immigrants and the few who get in from time to time are given a choice between prison and deportation. terrorist attacks inside israel are almost always done by people living inside the country since the wall went up because its too hard for anyone to get in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
https://i.imgur.com/ZLLHvrh.png


like them or not, the israeli wall is effective just as sinking migrant boats of lesbos and destroying the libyan ports would be effective. the only difference being the israelis don't pretend to care about somalian and sudanese human trash and our leaders do.

Ok so a huge wall. Around all our countries. While still making them work for us? Why would they accept that? Why wouldn't they just start working for themselves?
And you want to build a wall around all Europe and USA? Oo


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 21, 2016, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: m0gliE link=topic=1333322.msg13632479#msg13632479
Ok so a huge wall. Around all our countries. While still making them work for us? Why would they accept that? Why wouldn't they just start working for themselves?
the short answer is most of them have low iqs and aren't capable of doing much more than manual labour under the direction of a superior class or race

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And you want to build a wall around all Europe and USA? Oo
the usa would have a wall on its southern border. most illegals get into europe by sea and all we'd need to do is wreck libya's ports and sink a few rafts in the aegean to indicate to the rest that they aren't welcome.

smart, non politically correct countries like israel, hungary and bulgaria who care more for their own people than migrants have built walls that are keeping the invaders out while stupid, weak countries like germany, sweden and usa are literally drowning in mud.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: darkangel11 on January 21, 2016, 10:08:42 PM
It's so easy to make money when you already have a lot. All you have to do is to lend it to those in need, buy their ideas and allow them to work for you. That's why the poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: panju1 on January 22, 2016, 01:40:53 AM
It's so easy to make money when you already have a lot. All you have to do is to lend it to those in need, buy their ideas and allow them to work for you. That's why the poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer.

Yeah right.
That is how Bill Gates made his money.
That is how Mark Zuckerberg made his money.
In today's world, there are enough opportunities for everybody to succeed.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 22, 2016, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: m0gliE link=topic=1333322.msg13632479#msg13632479
Ok so a huge wall. Around all our countries. While still making them work for us? Why would they accept that? Why wouldn't they just start working for themselves?
the short answer is most of them have low iqs and aren't capable of doing much more than manual labour under the direction of a superior class or race


Added to my ignore list. You're not only a horrible human being. You're also so full of yourself that you don't see how pitiful and stupid our current way of life is. I don't know how anyone can then condemn terrorism seeing people like you. It's perfectly normal they try to kill us all when you see the scums people like you are.



Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: saddampbuh on January 22, 2016, 11:46:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/b2njzIC.png


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 22, 2016, 12:36:17 PM
I've never used the ignore feature but damn! This thread is really better without your posts dude  ;D


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: bizerinm on January 22, 2016, 01:23:49 PM
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The vast and growing gap between rich and poor has been laid bare in a new Oxfam report showing that the 62 richest billionaires own as much wealth as the poorer half of the world’s population.

Timed to coincide with this week’s gathering of many of the super-rich at the annual World Economic Forum in Davos, the report calls for urgent action to deal with a trend showing that 1% of people own more wealth than the other 99% combined.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined
Politics is the problem, there's a reason Governments tax INCOME, and not WEALTH(it's how you prevent social-mobility).

That seemingly little-factor is how the wealthy, have an exponentially growing fortune, and how people that merely work-hard are paying too much tax to grow their own wealth in any substantial form.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: Snail2 on January 22, 2016, 01:26:28 PM
Ok so a huge wall. Around all our countries. While still making them work for us? Why would they accept that? Why wouldn't they just start working for themselves?
And you want to build a wall around all Europe and USA? Oo

Walls are already there, and more will be built.

"Making them work for us"... well, you see this is one of the problems. According to some researches: "An employment rate of two percent is consistent with the previous experience in Germany of immigrant integration programs, particularly from asylum seekers..." (http://www.bild.de/geld/wirtschaft/fluechtling/nur-jeder-50te-findet-einen-job-43786808.bild.html (http://www.bild.de/geld/wirtschaft/fluechtling/nur-jeder-50te-findet-einen-job-43786808.bild.html) - sorry it's in german, but on some far-right sites you can find good translations ;).) So, as you can see they aren't really working for us, but they will cost approximately 55 billion EUR per million immigrants.

Most of the third world economies can't "just start working for themselves" as these economies mainly concentration on raw material production. Without a well developed processing industry (what is here, not there) they wouldn't get too far.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: B for BTC on January 22, 2016, 01:59:22 PM
life is not fair.
those very rich people got their money by harboring third world employees and paying them some cents. they even work on lowering the minimum wage in these countries through these corrupted governments


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mOgliE on January 22, 2016, 02:37:09 PM
life is not fair.
those very rich people got their money by harboring third world employees and paying them some cents. they even work on lowering the minimum wage in these countries through these corrupted governments

No of course not. They earned billions of dollars by working hard everyday! That's the American dream!  ;D

#Irony


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: Betwrong on January 22, 2016, 02:47:05 PM
The vast and growing gap between rich and poor has been laid bare in a new Oxfam report showing that the 62 richest billionaires own as much wealth as the poorer half of the world’s population.

Timed to coincide with this week’s gathering of many of the super-rich at the annual World Economic Forum in Davos, the report calls for urgent action to deal with a trend showing that 1% of people own more wealth than the other 99% combined.


http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined)

That's too bad IMO. If the richest people of the world will not learn how to limit their needs (like collecting sport cars, air planes etc.) the whole modern civilization will collapse sooner than they think. Poor people most likely will gain from the collapse because they already have nothing to lose, but many people like us who are somewhere in the middle will be deprived of many things which we like.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: xdrpx on January 22, 2016, 03:45:10 PM
There are only a few billionaires donating to charity just to check out of the IT returns. If they report a donation to charity they wouldn't have to pay as much of Income tax and thus it's all a big gamble in the large society. It's still a good way to distribute their wealth to the poor and needy though.


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: iv4n on January 22, 2016, 04:03:56 PM
There are only a few billionaires donating to charity just to check out of the IT returns. If they report a donation to charity they wouldn't have to pay as much of Income tax and thus it's all a big gamble in the large society. It's still a good way to distribute their wealth to the poor and needy though.

"Distribute their wealth" no man, no.. Its just part of the system, cant u see they doing that for years and they done nothing. I always wondered if they can't spend it what do they need it? I dont think we will see better situation ever, it will be same, masters and slaves. That just prove that we are still animals. For some will be better, for some will be worst, its completly individual.

 


Title: Re: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population
Post by: mrflibblehat on January 29, 2016, 01:37:25 AM
It's so easy to make money when you already have a lot. All you have to do is to lend it to those in need, buy their ideas and allow them to work for you. That's why the poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer.

Exactly - once you're rich it's very to get richer. Just invest smart. And money will make more money. And stress will make more stress.