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Economy => Auctions => Topic started by: Kumala on December 26, 2012, 07:21:55 PM



Title: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: Kumala on December 26, 2012, 07:21:55 PM
Due to lack of time I decided to offer the two sites btc-lotto.com and dvc-lotto.com for sale:

What you get:
 - source code and the rights to do anything you want with any part of the code
 - ownership in the domains: dvc-lotto.com, btc-lotto.com
 - 3 month remote support on any technical issues related to the code
 - existing databases of users and the balances of their accounts (balances are neglectible, registered users on dvc-lotto.com ~100, btc-lotto.com < 20)
 - my support to get the code up and running on your server

What you don't get:
 - the jackpot funds, you need to top up the jackpot with your own funds
 - anything not specifically listed under "What you get"

What you need:
 - a linux based server (VPS also works) with at least 3GB (guaranteed) memory
 - a remote site/server to push the backups to
 - basic Linux knowledge
 - basic/good Ruby knowledge
 - basic/good MySQL knowledge

Should you not have the necessay skills to technically run the platform, but you believe you have the necessary marketing skills
to get this site to a much more successful level, feel free to propose a 'Joint-Venture'.

I am taking offers starting at 100BTC (or equivalent amount in DVCs), I reserve the right to close or cancel this auction at any point in time.



Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: gweedo on December 26, 2012, 07:30:53 PM
I want to know metrics, daily uniques, how much profit were you taking on the site?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: Kumala on December 26, 2012, 07:36:56 PM
What you are getting is:
 - the code
 - the domains
 - proven record that the code works
 - a (few) registered users
 - assume currently no active players

As for the usage, it's been very little due to the obviousl lack in marketing activities.

Some metrics I can provide:
375 bets placed so far on dvc-lotto.com
275 bets places so far on btc-lotto.com





Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: Kumala on December 26, 2012, 07:40:21 PM
To make this very clear: The page is not making enough revenue to even pay of the electricity of the servers at this point in time. It requires substantial efforts to market and promote.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: gweedo on December 26, 2012, 07:57:34 PM
Well then how are you getting to 100 btcs? That is what I am trying to figure out, cause your not giving me a server, it doesn't make any revenue, I am would really be taking a hit, and be in the hole already for ~150btc (after all cost and refilling deposits). Can you revalue this site to something realistic?


Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: Kumala on December 26, 2012, 08:11:21 PM
The 100BTC is a conservative amount and obviously subject to different evaluations:
1. Domain names, btc-lotto.com and dvc-lotto.com   
2. 3 months remote support.
3. Ownership of the source code.
4. Installation support

Developing the source code takes time, testing and validating that it works in a real live environment, even more.

If you are an experienced programmer with lots of free time, then surely you'll be able to develop this in a few weeks in your spare time and this auction is just a question whether the domain names are worth that amount or not.

If you are a busines person or a skilled programmer with little free time then your calculations go differently. 100BTC are currently ~1350 USD. What do you pay a reasonably good programmer with a proven track record to develop and maintain a secure financial web application per hour?  Assuming you'ld say 25 USD/hour - which is ridicilously little - then that gets you roughly 54 hours   (1350 USD / 25 USD per hour).   54 hours is (for me at least) just a bit less than a normal working week. Now put that into context, I believe the 100BTC is a very low fee, assuming you are looking at it from a business perspective.
 



Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: gweedo on December 26, 2012, 08:21:32 PM
Ok I hate to be the mean person but if your selling a site, you never factor in the time you spent coding. The value of a site is based on how much it makes and how many uniques you get. Good Luck, if you get a realistic price (preferably in the ~20 - ~40btc area)  hit me with a pm cause I am interested.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: farlack on December 26, 2012, 10:10:31 PM
Normally when you sell a site you bid a 6-12 month profit range. You're losing money, why would anyone pay $1,300 for it? There are already free btc lotto scripts available.


Title: Re: [AUCTION] BTC-Lotto.com + DVC-Lotto.com
Post by: BRules on December 30, 2012, 03:22:14 AM
free btc lotto scripts, I wanna take a look on this, where can I find one?