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Economy => Collectibles => Topic started by: casascius on January 21, 2016, 08:16:08 PM



Title: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: casascius on January 21, 2016, 08:16:08 PM
Hi everyone,

I'd like to feel out how much interest there is for one of the two 500 BTC bars that I made, one which is still intact.

The owner is a long time friend of mine who recently passed away.  His family & their attorney are interested in selling it and they're not sure whether they're best to try to sell it intact (logistically challenging for its value) or to break it open.

So I'm interested in gauging interest in the form of non-binding USD offers on the bar, either open or intact, and in the case of intact, offer could be "$X + 500 BTC" so as to offer price $X on the physical bar itself, the 500 BTC being merely a reimbursement for the bitcoins it contains.

I'm able and willing to certify the bar as the authentic original and also provide the story line for how the bar came to be created and the nature of my relationship with that friend, we go back about 25 years.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: unamis76 on January 21, 2016, 09:03:09 PM
You'll probably find people interested here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1138541.0). If there are more talks about the 500 BTC bar, I don't remember, but I think this is the last time someone showed interest on one of those on the forums.

Also, I guess we're finally going to know who owned the second bar :D Watching.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: monkeynuts on January 22, 2016, 02:37:34 PM
Sorry for your loss Mike. Tough time, I am sure.

I would be interested in the redeemed bar, more within my price range than an intact bar .... but it would be a real shame if that ended up being the way it needed to be sold. Hope you can find a buyer for it 'as is'.

Is the sale (of the bar) fixed in USD, or could it be bitcoin ? (Effectively, could a USD offer be made, but the payment made in bitcoins)

Any limitations as far as international sales go ?

(Thanks, and welcome back)


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Quickseller on January 22, 2016, 03:11:58 PM
Do you have a specific price range that you have in mind?

As is the same as above, having the 500 BTC intact would most likely be out of my price range


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: casascius on January 22, 2016, 05:20:39 PM
So I am not the seller - I have no notion of what the price should be (and as the maker, I tend to steer clear of participating in the market).  No possibility of offending me - offer $0 just for giggles if you'd like.

His next of kin (& attorney) are not Bitcoin savvy so whether or not they decide to follow through with selling it will depend on whatever they see, USD preferable, and whether they will feel risk selling what must feel like a hot potato (hot in the sense it is a small object with a lot of value, the kind you would have professional handling for rather than ship in the mail).


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: BayAreaCoins on January 22, 2016, 05:49:22 PM
Reserved.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1138541.0


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Blazed on January 22, 2016, 06:40:46 PM
Sent a message to someone who might want a loaded one...

Oh, so he wants USD for the bar not Bitcoin?


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 22, 2016, 06:50:29 PM
I am interested in the bar.

Since no one has made an offer and this isn't an auction, I will just low ball to get a number started other than simply saying I am interested....
I offer BTC + $2k

(A bump to the thread to get notifications since I rarely come to BCT)


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Blazed on January 22, 2016, 06:51:32 PM
I am interested in the bar.

Since no one has made an offer and this isn't an auction, I will just low ball to get a number started other than simply saying I am interested....
I offer BTC + $2k

(A bump to the thread to get notifications since I rarely come to BCT)


lol...that was quick  ;)


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: miffman on January 22, 2016, 07:00:22 PM
I am interested in the bar.

Since no one has made an offer and this isn't an auction, I will just low ball to get a number started other than simply saying I am interested....
I offer BTC + $2k

(A bump to the thread to get notifications since I rarely come to BCT)


Amazing offer! I'd be extremely surprised if you didn't get it.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: bithalo on January 22, 2016, 07:16:55 PM
I'll offer $2500 for a redeemed bar only.  If it makes any difference, I can fly out to meet the seller if based in the US.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 22, 2016, 07:24:08 PM
I am interested in the bar.

Since no one has made an offer and this isn't an auction, I will just low ball to get a number started other than simply saying I am interested....
I offer BTC + $2k

(A bump to the thread to get notifications since I rarely come to BCT)


Just to be clear on my starting offer,  I am only interested in an intact bar.   PM sent to Mike with details.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: nubbins on January 22, 2016, 07:31:09 PM
I'd offer the USD equivalent of 5 BTC for the redeemed bar (and holo) using the Winkdex rate at 12:00 noon UTC on the day the agreement is finalized.

Sorry, I know that sounds obtuse, just have no idea how to price the thing in USD. Would love to watch the holo being peeled, and potentially interested in traveling to make that happen, depending on location/date etc.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: BayAreaCoins on January 22, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
I am interested in the bar.

Since no one has made an offer and this isn't an auction, I will just low ball to get a number started other than simply saying I am interested....
I offer BTC + $2k

(A bump to the thread to get notifications since I rarely come to BCT)


Amazing offer! I'd be extremely surprised if you didn't get it.

Seems low in my eyes for a 1 of 2 piece and it being the only one still not redeemed.

It'd be a shame to have both of the 500btc bars redeemed IMO.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 22, 2016, 07:59:11 PM
Seems a bit low in my eyes for a 1 of 2 piece and it being the only one still not redeemed.

It'd be a shame to have both of the 500btc bars redeemed IMO.

Little confused here.  If chainsaw has one and you have one, then what is Mike selling?  Unless chainsaw passed away or you sold yours to him (or vise versa).


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: BayAreaCoins on January 22, 2016, 08:04:04 PM
Seems a bit low in my eyes for a 1 of 2 piece and it being the only one still not redeemed.

It'd be a shame to have both of the 500btc bars redeemed IMO.

Little confused here.  If chainsaw has one and you have one, then what is Mike selling?  Unless chainsaw passed away or you sold yours to him (or vise versa).

The one pictured in my thread is Chainsaws.

I had it listed a long time ago for 1000 BTC because he felt more comfortable having me assess it's value + with that high of a listing.  I tend to be fairly confident asking high prices for rare items and catching shit over it :).

He will entertain offers directly though and you're welcome to confirm what I said here with him. (I'm sure he'll pop up over here at some point)


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 22, 2016, 08:05:11 PM
The one pictured in my thread is Chainsaws.

I had it listed a long time ago for 1000 BTC because he felt more comfortable having me assess it's value + with that high of a listing.  I tend to be fairly confident asking high prices for rare items and catching shit over it :).

He will entertain offers directly though and you're welcome to confirm what I said here with him.

Oh, ok.  Makes sense now.   Thanks.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: uvwvj on January 22, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
Mike - This place is not great for this type of sales anymore - I would suggest Reddit or even Twitter

At lease you have Michail1 here at a base bidder


Good Ole Bay trying to turn a buck some things never change -


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Hellot on January 22, 2016, 09:42:46 PM
Sorry for your loss, Mike.  Thank you for everything you have done for us!


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: hedgy73 on January 23, 2016, 12:19:59 AM
Yes thanks Mike true legend you are and always will be, sorry for the loss of your friend :'(.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Eodguy149 on January 23, 2016, 05:47:32 AM
So sorry for the loss of your friend, Mike. Hopefully the family is able to raise a significant amount of funds with this bar and I would love to help. I have sent an offer via PM.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: David19 on January 23, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
I am definitely interested in the one that is still intact. I will Pm you the offer soon.


EDIT: I'll go ahead and beat Michail1 offer. 500btc + 5k USD for the intact bar.

Be careful >https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=737918 Impersonator/fake account


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 23, 2016, 03:33:02 PM
Well, I thought it would have happened faster, but scammer already trying.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=737918 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=737918)

Take note that he is quoting another account which appears to have been registered 1.5 years ago with zero posts.  Probably his account as well.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=315588 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=315588)

This scammer is also fake quoting OgNasty.


!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

I offer Bitcoin + $2050


This user is a Legendary Member. If you are expecting a message from this member then it is genuine !!!


Hi charles_chad,

Thank you for the offer but for a trade this size I would only feel comfortable trading with a well known and trusted forum member.

I am interested in the bar.

Since no one has made an offer and this isn't an auction, I will just low ball to get a number started other than simply saying I am interested....
I offer BTC + $2k

(A bump to the thread to get notifications since I rarely come to BCT)


First thing Michail1 is to thank you for a strong and generous offer.  This will go a long way to help the family get straight after their recent and unexpected loss.

Bitcoin + $2k = 505BTC

I dropped OgNasty a pm for Escrow to keep everything above board and impartial -


Hi casascius,

It would be an honor to act as Escrow for this trade and please pass my condolences on to the family.

You guys know the Escrow routine so I wont go in to all the details.

Please use the Escrow address in the first post of my main Escrow thread on the forum :

www.bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281 (http://bitocintalk-topic303281.eu5.org/)

Kind regards,

OgNasty




Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 23, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
I am definitely interested in the one that is still intact. I will Pm you the offer soon.

EDIT: I'll go ahead and beat Michail1 offer. 500btc + 5k USD for the intact bar.

I will not raise my offer in this thread.  I am interested in the bar though and willing to discuss price directly.
Mike, you have my email address and phone number.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Blazed on January 23, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Also Michail1 said once he buys it that he wants it shipped to me as a gift (late Xmas gift).


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: David19 on January 23, 2016, 04:30:49 PM
I am definitely interested in the one that is still intact. I will Pm you the offer soon.

EDIT: I'll go ahead and beat Michail1 offer. 500btc + 5k USD for the intact bar.

I will not raise my offer in this thread.  I am interested in the bar though and willing to discuss price directly.
Mike, you have my email address and phone number.


Mike, notify me if Michail1 outbids me or if anyone else does.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 23, 2016, 04:44:02 PM
Mike, notify me if Michail1 outbids me or if anyone else does.

 ;)


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: TheButterZone on January 23, 2016, 05:42:45 PM
Do I hear 5000 BTC for this bar? ;)


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: OgNasty on January 23, 2016, 05:50:23 PM
This scammer is also fake quoting OgNasty.

Trying to scam in a deal involving a legend like Casascius using my name is messed up...  I doubt escrow would be needed in this case either.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: David19 on January 27, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Any update on this ?


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 27, 2016, 03:23:06 PM
Any update on this ?

Mike hasn't contacted me on it.

I can't get past the topic of it being 'potentially for sale'.   No sense making a real offer if it isn't actually for sale.  I am sure there are plenty of people that would like to get it (scammers included), but few know what to offer (me included) on something not actually for sale.

I will update if Mike contacts me.  I will not update if I actually am able to get it.   <wink>



Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Blazed on January 27, 2016, 03:36:23 PM
Any update on this ?

Mike hasn't contacted me on it.

I can't get past the topic of it being 'potentially for sale'.   No sense making a real offer if it isn't actually for sale.  I am sure there are plenty of people that would like to get it (scammers included), but few know what to offer (me included) on something not actually for sale.

I will update if Mike contacts me.  I will not update if I actually am able to get it.   <wink>



Pretty much what I assumed when I mentioned this to you. Sorry to waste your time Michail1  :P


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Dabs on January 28, 2016, 02:26:49 AM
Oooh. Obviously, Mike is acting as escrow for his friend's family for the bar. Buyer pays Mike, he ships the bar. Mike pays family in USD.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on January 28, 2016, 02:56:11 AM
Oooh. Obviously, Mike is acting as escrow for his friend's family for the bar. Buyer pays Mike, he ships the bar. Mike pays family in USD.

That would be fine with me.  Gotta get an update from Mike though.  Might even be sold by now.  :)


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: David19 on February 08, 2016, 08:42:44 AM
Is this bar still for sale?  Any update ?


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: bitmarket.io on February 08, 2016, 02:01:06 PM
$8k + 500btc


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on February 08, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
$8k + 500btc

You have it now, or he actually responded to you?  (I didn't get a reply.)  Sad.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Quickseller on February 09, 2016, 02:21:06 AM
He probably needs to relay any offers to the family who need to respond to Mike before he can give an answer, and depending on how large of a share the bar is of the estate, the family may or may not be pressed to have the sale of the bar handled quickly.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Raize on February 15, 2016, 10:05:20 PM
Even though it is Casascius and I'm sure folks would get full proof and do an in-person trade, keep in mind that it's been a long time since his account was used regularly. Just a heads up.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on February 15, 2016, 10:43:56 PM
Even though it is Casascius and I'm sure folks would get full proof and do an in-person trade, keep in mind that it's been a long time since his account was used regularly. Just a heads up.

He logs in often.  Even up to two days ago.  Plenty of time to respond to a thread from almost a month ago.  Meh.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: casascius on February 16, 2016, 12:27:25 AM
Yeah, I am merely passing this along. I have not responded to anyone.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: David19 on June 05, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
Yeah, I am merely passing this along. I have not responded to anyone.

Is this bar still for sale ?


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: casascius on June 09, 2016, 04:15:51 AM
Yeah, I am merely passing this along. I have not responded to anyone.

Is this bar still for sale ?

To the best of my knowledge, probably yes!


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: smoothie on June 17, 2016, 08:24:18 AM
did this ever sell?


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: Michail1 on June 17, 2016, 01:16:40 PM
did this ever sell?

It was a week prior; however, I don't think there has been any responses to inquiries or offers.


Title: Re: 500 BTC Casascius Bar potentially for sale
Post by: David19 on June 17, 2016, 06:19:00 PM
did this ever sell?

It was a week prior; however, I don't think there has been any responses to inquiries or offers.

My offer has still been valid for months now, i haven't got any response tho.