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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:28:09 PM



Title: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
User sellbitcoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023) sells 20 BTC for US$ 286,00 via Paypal. I paid and he didn't transfer my Bitcoins since yesterday. His email is j.bird.btc@live.com and hist Paypal name is Jeffrey Carlstrom. Probably a fake name. I did the operation without much care because I was in a hurry yesterday, to make an arbitrage. I did it later, with a friend in Facebook. But I lost this 20 BTC or $286 anyway.

His last message was:

"I'm so  sorry I fell asleep! What's your btc address again?"

I sent him again, despite of the fact I had sent a lot of times. Anyone knows how is the easiest manner to cancel this purchase in Paypal? I'm afraid to say I was buying Bitcoins.

Please, anyone help me?  ??? What should I do now?

Thanks so much.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on December 28, 2012, 11:35:01 PM
The Epiks Scammer is becoming quite notorious.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119472.msg1286121#msg1286121

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121031.msg1303805#msg1303805



Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:37:23 PM
Is he "epiks"?


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on December 28, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
He is using the same paypal account so yes it probably it.  Can you post any PM's or email you exchanged with him or transaction information, please.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: Oldsport on December 28, 2012, 11:41:42 PM
Weird considering he was in a very big rush to buy bitcoin from me today.  ::)

My instinct said no so I turned him down, listen to your instinct.

"It is a voice that can tell us, who is friend and who is foe. Which ones to hold at arms length, and which ones to keep close. But too often we become distracted by fear, doubt, our own stubborn hopes. We refuse to listen."

Sorry mate.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Is it possible to revert the operation? Everybody say Paypal is a big risk to seller because is easy to revert. Is so that easy really? How can I do that?


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: KWH on December 28, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
File a dispute and see what happens. If it was "gifted"...well......


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: Oldsport on December 28, 2012, 11:48:03 PM
Is it possible to revert the operation? Everybody say Paypal is a big risk to seller because is easy to revert. Is so that easy really? How can I do that?

Call paypal customer service, and explain the situation.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:51:31 PM
No. Not gifted. I'll try to make a dispute. Thanks for the tip.

All our private messages:

sellbitcoins
Jr. Member
Posts: 14
20btc
« Sent to: felipelalli on: December 27, 2012, 11:28:56 AM »
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I'll sell 20btc for that price . What's your PayPal?

sellbitcoins
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Re: 20btc
« Sent to: felipelalli on: December 27, 2012, 01:39:33 PM »
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Request sent. Please don't scam and do a charge back or anything!
What's your btc address?

sellbitcoins
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Posts: 14
 
Re: 20btc
« Sent to: felipelalli on: December 27, 2012, 07:36:01 PM »
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I'm so  sorry I fell asleep! What's your btc address again?


Some messages I sent him by email (I did not save my messages on forum output, my mistake):

(27/Dec)
Hi! I just sent to you. Did you receive?
Thank you very much!

(today)
Hi Bird! Please, send me the Bitcoins. I need it right now.
Thank you so much



Paypal stuffs:


Detalhes da transação   



      
Pagamento enviado (ID exclusivo da transação 7NA337372V964282R)

Transação original
 Data    Tipo    Status    Detalhes    Valor:
 27 DEZ 2012   Pagamento Para Jeffrey Carlstrom    Concluído    ...   -$286,00 USD

Transações relacionadas
 Data    Tipo    Status    Detalhes    Valor:
 27 DEZ 2012   Cobrança de cartão de crédito    ConcluídoSua transferência do seu cartão de crédito para a sua conta do PayPal foi concluída.Sua transferência do seu cartão de crédito para a sua conta do PayPal foi concluída.    Detalhes   R$607,94
 27 DEZ 2012   Conversão de moeda    Concluído    Detalhes   -R$607,94
 27 DEZ 2012   Conversão de moeda    Concluído    Detalhes   $286,00 USD

Enviado para:   
Jeffrey Carlstrom (O destinatário deste pagamento está Verificada)
E-mail:   
j.bird.btc@live.com
Valor total:   
-$286,00 USD (igual a -R$607,94)
Valor da tarifa:   
$0,00 USD
Valor líquido:   
-$286,00 USD

Conversão de:   
-R$607,94
Conversão para:   
$286,00 USD
Taxa de câmbio:   
1 Real = 0,470447 Dólares americanos
Em caso de câmbio internacional ou conversão de moeda ser necessário para a conclusão de alguma transação; isto será feito pelo PayPal através de uma instituição financeira independente.

Data:   
27 DEZ 2012
Hora:   
11:48:51 BRST
Status:   
Concluído

Assunto:   
Bit
Observação:   
Please send to 1LYd3qqT51churPkhhEtvxwjavWAYs6UJ
Tipo de fundos:   
Cartão de crédito
Fonte de recursos:   
R$607,94 - Visa Cartão de Crédito XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-5477
Esta transação será exibida em sua fatura como "PAYPAL *JBIRDBTC".
Parcelas:   
0

.........................

I sent my address 1LYd3qqT51churPkhhEtvxwjavWAYs6UJ in the message above, in paypal transaction. I sent again by email and forum too.


 :'(


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on December 29, 2012, 12:04:36 AM
Why moderators don't mark this guy as scammer? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 12:55:35 AM
Theymos gave him the scammer tag.  Let's see where Jeffrey turns up next.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 01:10:22 AM
Jeffrey Carlstrom
j.bird.btc@live.com
jeff@epikads.com
VERIFIED PREMIER
VS8DYKSKBSUSA

He has also used this email account:
Jake McIntyre ccphazed@gmail.com

This is an other email:
dsvirus@gmail.com

He may also be know as
James Woody (Everette, WA).

This is an inactive Wireless number he has used in the past.
206.498.8023


The list below contains all domains related to the email address dsvirus@gmail.com.
The list is made of domains using the above email address on their website or in their whois record. We also link domains to email addresses by using our internal algorithm.

The email dsvirus@gmail.com is related to these domains :

1.  backlinksextreme.info
2.  epiks.org
3.  extreme-fans.info
4.  extreme-proxies.info
5.  extremefans.info
6.  gelexia.com
7.  golfnowpromocode.net
8.  howtosetupaminecraftserver.com
9.  proxiesextreme.info
10.  sikko.org


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 01:31:59 AM
here is an interesting bit of info:

Carlstrom, Jeff
dsvirus@gmail.com
1609 england ave
everett, Washington 98203.
United States
425-314-4519.
Technical Contact:
Carlstrom, Jeff dsvirus@gmail.

425-314-4519
This number is registered to a

JESSIE CASTRO

Jessie Castro

Address:
1707 Merrill Creek Pkwy Apt 823
Everett
WA  98203-7111


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on December 29, 2012, 01:33:37 AM
Woow!!  :o You guys are amazing. So I was victim... :(


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 01:55:01 AM
Active Paypal Accounts:

Jeffrey Carlstrom  dsvirus@gmail.com     VERIFIED PREMIER     8M4X32CNKFTBS

Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.bird.btc@live.com     VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA
Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.cstrom@live.com       VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA

Jeffrey Carlstrom  ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER  2T22AXAMBZ8UU


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: Oldsport on December 30, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Active Paypal Accounts:

Jeffrey Carlstrom  dsvirus@gmail.com     VERIFIED PREMIER     8M4X32CNKFTBS

Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.bird.btc@live.com     VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA
Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.cstrom@live.com       VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA

Jeffrey Carlstrom  ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER  2T22AXAMBZ8UU

I wouldn't be surprised if said user was using stolen information, such as a SSN to make all these accounts. Why else would he blatantly bastardize his own name? Regardless enough heat on the name should bring some action sooner or later.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on December 30, 2012, 06:54:07 AM
It is being a big headache to me  :'(

It's not that easy, nor fast, to cancel the Paypal transfer.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on December 30, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
Active Paypal Accounts:

Jeffrey Carlstrom  dsvirus@gmail.com     VERIFIED PREMIER     8M4X32CNKFTBS

Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.bird.btc@live.com     VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA
Jeffrey Carlstrom  j.cstrom@live.com       VERIFIED PREMIER      VS8DYKSKBSUSA

Jeffrey Carlstrom  ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER  2T22AXAMBZ8UU

I wouldn't be surprised if said user was using stolen information, such as a SSN to make all these accounts. Why else would he blatantly bastardize his own name? Regardless enough heat on the name should bring some action sooner or later.

That is possible. But I don't believe so in this case. He also had a Wells Fargo bank account which he also used to make legitimate trades before he went rogue and started scamming people. He also contacted me private to tell me his accout was compromised as a excuse to avoid responsibility for the scamming yet he continues to scam and does nothing to clear his name.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: Third Way on December 31, 2012, 01:03:38 AM
I'd be afraid to try and scam anyone on these forums with the detectives that post here.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: mitty on January 02, 2013, 02:47:49 AM
I also got scammed by this guy.

I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back.

Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: BCB on January 02, 2013, 02:54:08 AM
I also got scammed by this guy.

I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back.

Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900.

When did that happen??


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: mitty on January 02, 2013, 03:34:49 AM
I also got scammed by this guy.

I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back.

Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900.

When did that happen??
On Dec 24, 2012 he sent me a PM saying that he would sell me two BFL singles for $500/each and would accept PayPal. (I had a topic in the Goods/Computer Hardware forum looking to buy BFL singles.) I gave him my PP email, he sent the invoice, and I paid it.  I replied back to his PM asking if he had any more units for sale, and he said that he'd be willing to sell me two more for $500/each.  He sent me another $1000 invoice which I paid.

Day after Christmas (Dec 26) he posts a topic in the Computer Hardware saying he's selling 4 more BFL singles.  I PM him and ask if they're still available; he replies and says he'll sell me two for $900 or four for $1800.  I ask for two, and he sends me another PayPal invoice, this time for $900, which I also paid.

I then ask for tracking info, and he says he can't find the number but that the package (with the first four) should be there "tomorrow" (Dec 27).  That was the last message I got from him, and no packages have shown up.  He said that the first four were shipped USPS priority, and said that he would "overnight" the other 2, so I should have received all units by now. 

On December 28th or so I saw that he was marked as a scammer and immediately opened PayPal disputes for the 3 transactions.  I just escalated 2 to claims, and will do the same for the other tomorrow. (it won't let me do it right now since it hasn't been long enough)

Long story short: it happened on Dec 24, 2012 and Dec 26, 2012.



Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: John (John K.) on January 02, 2013, 03:37:22 AM
I also got scammed by this guy.

I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back.

Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900.
Do a chargeback and state you haven't received the physical items from him.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: mitty on January 02, 2013, 03:42:45 AM
I also got scammed by this guy.

I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back.

Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900.
Do a chargeback and state you haven't received the physical items from him.
I'm filing PayPal claims, and if that doesn't work I'm going to do chargebacks with my credit cards.  $2000 of the transactions were on a Discover card but the other $900 was on my debit card so I'm hoping PayPal can resolve all of the claims.  I assume it shouldn't be too hard since he didn't provide tracking info and has seemed to disappear. (I think if the seller doesn't respond within 10 days, PayPal automatically closes the dispute and gives the money back to the buyer)


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on January 02, 2013, 04:17:49 AM
mitty, wow!  :o your case is worse than mine. I hope Paypal give my money back, otherwise I'll try to cancel in my credit card too. But it take time and it's not 100% sure.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: nethead on January 04, 2013, 11:50:32 PM
maybe this user (sellbitcoins) is the same who operated sellbitcoins.to (and bitexchange.biz)
If thats true count me in the scammed by him..


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on January 05, 2013, 05:52:59 AM
same guy. I did not take my money back from Paypal. I'm trying yet...


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: nethead on January 05, 2013, 07:28:13 AM
same guy. I did not take my money back from Paypal. I'm trying yet...

Hope you do m8, me neither from ukash.. They needed a lawyer to revert payment and i guess i cannot use a lawyer for bitcoins, i have spoken to him about that incident but..
Also they told to use ActionFraud but they didnt do much also.. too bad he will see those messages and will laugh, but i WISH to spend those money on doctors :)


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: felipelalli on January 05, 2013, 05:20:01 PM
(...) but i WISH to spend those money on doctors :)

psychologists?


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: mitty on January 20, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
PayPal gave me my money back about a week ago... as annoying as it is from a seller's point of view, PayPal is pretty great if you're a buyer who has actually been scammed.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: 21after2 on January 20, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
PayPal gave me my money back about a week ago... as annoying as it is from a seller's point of view, PayPal is pretty great if you're a buyer who has actually been scammed.

Yup. It's kind of a necessary evil on their part.


Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com
Post by: DreDri on January 22, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
Oh wow. I've been working with local PD and Greendot and (with the nudge of my lawyer) they've escalated to the Internet Fraud Division of the FBI.

Wait until I show them this thread.

(removes dog collars)