Title: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:28:09 PM User sellbitcoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023) sells 20 BTC for US$ 286,00 via Paypal. I paid and he didn't transfer my Bitcoins since yesterday. His email is j.bird.btc@live.com and hist Paypal name is Jeffrey Carlstrom. Probably a fake name. I did the operation without much care because I was in a hurry yesterday, to make an arbitrage. I did it later, with a friend in Facebook. But I lost this 20 BTC or $286 anyway.
His last message was: "I'm so sorry I fell asleep! What's your btc address again?" I sent him again, despite of the fact I had sent a lot of times. Anyone knows how is the easiest manner to cancel this purchase in Paypal? I'm afraid to say I was buying Bitcoins. Please, anyone help me? ??? What should I do now? Thanks so much. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on December 28, 2012, 11:35:01 PM The Epiks Scammer is becoming quite notorious.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119472.msg1286121#msg1286121 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121031.msg1303805#msg1303805 Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:37:23 PM Is he "epiks"?
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on December 28, 2012, 11:38:27 PM He is using the same paypal account so yes it probably it. Can you post any PM's or email you exchanged with him or transaction information, please.
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: Oldsport on December 28, 2012, 11:41:42 PM Weird considering he was in a very big rush to buy bitcoin from me today. ::)
My instinct said no so I turned him down, listen to your instinct. "It is a voice that can tell us, who is friend and who is foe. Which ones to hold at arms length, and which ones to keep close. But too often we become distracted by fear, doubt, our own stubborn hopes. We refuse to listen." Sorry mate. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:42:05 PM Is it possible to revert the operation? Everybody say Paypal is a big risk to seller because is easy to revert. Is so that easy really? How can I do that?
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: KWH on December 28, 2012, 11:43:40 PM File a dispute and see what happens. If it was "gifted"...well......
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: Oldsport on December 28, 2012, 11:48:03 PM Is it possible to revert the operation? Everybody say Paypal is a big risk to seller because is easy to revert. Is so that easy really? How can I do that? Call paypal customer service, and explain the situation. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on December 28, 2012, 11:51:31 PM No. Not gifted. I'll try to make a dispute. Thanks for the tip.
All our private messages: sellbitcoins Jr. Member Posts: 14 20btc « Sent to: felipelalli on: December 27, 2012, 11:28:56 AM » « You have forwarded or responded to this message. » Quote Reply Delete I'll sell 20btc for that price . What's your PayPal? sellbitcoins Jr. Member Posts: 14 Re: 20btc « Sent to: felipelalli on: December 27, 2012, 01:39:33 PM » « You have forwarded or responded to this message. » Quote Reply Delete Request sent. Please don't scam and do a charge back or anything! What's your btc address? sellbitcoins Jr. Member Posts: 14 Re: 20btc « Sent to: felipelalli on: December 27, 2012, 07:36:01 PM » « You have forwarded or responded to this message. » Quote Reply Delete I'm so sorry I fell asleep! What's your btc address again? Some messages I sent him by email (I did not save my messages on forum output, my mistake): (27/Dec) Hi! I just sent to you. Did you receive? Thank you very much! (today) Hi Bird! Please, send me the Bitcoins. I need it right now. Thank you so much Paypal stuffs: Detalhes da transação Pagamento enviado (ID exclusivo da transação 7NA337372V964282R) Transação original Data Tipo Status Detalhes Valor: 27 DEZ 2012 Pagamento Para Jeffrey Carlstrom Concluído ... -$286,00 USD Transações relacionadas Data Tipo Status Detalhes Valor: 27 DEZ 2012 Cobrança de cartão de crédito ConcluídoSua transferência do seu cartão de crédito para a sua conta do PayPal foi concluída.Sua transferência do seu cartão de crédito para a sua conta do PayPal foi concluída. Detalhes R$607,94 27 DEZ 2012 Conversão de moeda Concluído Detalhes -R$607,94 27 DEZ 2012 Conversão de moeda Concluído Detalhes $286,00 USD Enviado para: Jeffrey Carlstrom (O destinatário deste pagamento está Verificada) E-mail: j.bird.btc@live.com Valor total: -$286,00 USD (igual a -R$607,94) Valor da tarifa: $0,00 USD Valor líquido: -$286,00 USD Conversão de: -R$607,94 Conversão para: $286,00 USD Taxa de câmbio: 1 Real = 0,470447 Dólares americanos Em caso de câmbio internacional ou conversão de moeda ser necessário para a conclusão de alguma transação; isto será feito pelo PayPal através de uma instituição financeira independente. Data: 27 DEZ 2012 Hora: 11:48:51 BRST Status: Concluído Assunto: Bit Observação: Please send to 1LYd3qqT51churPkhhEtvxwjavWAYs6UJ Tipo de fundos: Cartão de crédito Fonte de recursos: R$607,94 - Visa Cartão de Crédito XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-5477 Esta transação será exibida em sua fatura como "PAYPAL *JBIRDBTC". Parcelas: 0 ......................... I sent my address 1LYd3qqT51churPkhhEtvxwjavWAYs6UJ in the message above, in paypal transaction. I sent again by email and forum too. :'( Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on December 29, 2012, 12:04:36 AM Why moderators don't mark this guy as scammer? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71023
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 12:55:35 AM Theymos gave him the scammer tag. Let's see where Jeffrey turns up next.
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 01:10:22 AM Jeffrey Carlstrom
j.bird.btc@live.com jeff@epikads.com VERIFIED PREMIER VS8DYKSKBSUSA He has also used this email account: Jake McIntyre ccphazed@gmail.com This is an other email: dsvirus@gmail.com He may also be know as James Woody (Everette, WA). This is an inactive Wireless number he has used in the past. 206.498.8023 The list below contains all domains related to the email address dsvirus@gmail.com. The list is made of domains using the above email address on their website or in their whois record. We also link domains to email addresses by using our internal algorithm. The email dsvirus@gmail.com is related to these domains : 1. backlinksextreme.info 2. epiks.org 3. extreme-fans.info 4. extreme-proxies.info 5. extremefans.info 6. gelexia.com 7. golfnowpromocode.net 8. howtosetupaminecraftserver.com 9. proxiesextreme.info 10. sikko.org Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 01:31:59 AM here is an interesting bit of info:
Carlstrom, Jeff dsvirus@gmail.com 1609 england ave everett, Washington 98203. United States 425-314-4519. Technical Contact: Carlstrom, Jeff dsvirus@gmail. 425-314-4519 This number is registered to a JESSIE CASTRO Jessie Castro Address: 1707 Merrill Creek Pkwy Apt 823 Everett WA 98203-7111 Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on December 29, 2012, 01:33:37 AM Woow!! :o You guys are amazing. So I was victim... :(
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on December 29, 2012, 01:55:01 AM Active Paypal Accounts:
Jeffrey Carlstrom dsvirus@gmail.com VERIFIED PREMIER 8M4X32CNKFTBS Jeffrey Carlstrom j.bird.btc@live.com VERIFIED PREMIER VS8DYKSKBSUSA Jeffrey Carlstrom j.cstrom@live.com VERIFIED PREMIER VS8DYKSKBSUSA Jeffrey Carlstrom ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER 2T22AXAMBZ8UU Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: Oldsport on December 30, 2012, 05:54:26 AM Active Paypal Accounts: Jeffrey Carlstrom dsvirus@gmail.com VERIFIED PREMIER 8M4X32CNKFTBS Jeffrey Carlstrom j.bird.btc@live.com VERIFIED PREMIER VS8DYKSKBSUSA Jeffrey Carlstrom j.cstrom@live.com VERIFIED PREMIER VS8DYKSKBSUSA Jeffrey Carlstrom ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER 2T22AXAMBZ8UU I wouldn't be surprised if said user was using stolen information, such as a SSN to make all these accounts. Why else would he blatantly bastardize his own name? Regardless enough heat on the name should bring some action sooner or later. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on December 30, 2012, 06:54:07 AM It is being a big headache to me :'(
It's not that easy, nor fast, to cancel the Paypal transfer. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on December 30, 2012, 11:05:41 AM Active Paypal Accounts: Jeffrey Carlstrom dsvirus@gmail.com VERIFIED PREMIER 8M4X32CNKFTBS Jeffrey Carlstrom j.bird.btc@live.com VERIFIED PREMIER VS8DYKSKBSUSA Jeffrey Carlstrom j.cstrom@live.com VERIFIED PREMIER VS8DYKSKBSUSA Jeffrey Carlstrom ccphazed@gmail.com UNVERIFIED PREMIER 2T22AXAMBZ8UU I wouldn't be surprised if said user was using stolen information, such as a SSN to make all these accounts. Why else would he blatantly bastardize his own name? Regardless enough heat on the name should bring some action sooner or later. That is possible. But I don't believe so in this case. He also had a Wells Fargo bank account which he also used to make legitimate trades before he went rogue and started scamming people. He also contacted me private to tell me his accout was compromised as a excuse to avoid responsibility for the scamming yet he continues to scam and does nothing to clear his name. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: Third Way on December 31, 2012, 01:03:38 AM I'd be afraid to try and scam anyone on these forums with the detectives that post here.
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: mitty on January 02, 2013, 02:47:49 AM I also got scammed by this guy.
I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back. Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: BCB on January 02, 2013, 02:54:08 AM I also got scammed by this guy. I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back. Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900. When did that happen?? Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: mitty on January 02, 2013, 03:34:49 AM I also got scammed by this guy. I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back. Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900. When did that happen?? Day after Christmas (Dec 26) he posts a topic in the Computer Hardware saying he's selling 4 more BFL singles. I PM him and ask if they're still available; he replies and says he'll sell me two for $900 or four for $1800. I ask for two, and he sends me another PayPal invoice, this time for $900, which I also paid. I then ask for tracking info, and he says he can't find the number but that the package (with the first four) should be there "tomorrow" (Dec 27). That was the last message I got from him, and no packages have shown up. He said that the first four were shipped USPS priority, and said that he would "overnight" the other 2, so I should have received all units by now. On December 28th or so I saw that he was marked as a scammer and immediately opened PayPal disputes for the 3 transactions. I just escalated 2 to claims, and will do the same for the other tomorrow. (it won't let me do it right now since it hasn't been long enough) Long story short: it happened on Dec 24, 2012 and Dec 26, 2012. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: John (John K.) on January 02, 2013, 03:37:22 AM I also got scammed by this guy. Do a chargeback and state you haven't received the physical items from him.I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back. Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: mitty on January 02, 2013, 03:42:45 AM I also got scammed by this guy. Do a chargeback and state you haven't received the physical items from him.I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back. Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on January 02, 2013, 04:17:49 AM mitty, wow! :o your case is worse than mine. I hope Paypal give my money back, otherwise I'll try to cancel in my credit card too. But it take time and it's not 100% sure.
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: nethead on January 04, 2013, 11:50:32 PM maybe this user (sellbitcoins) is the same who operated sellbitcoins.to (and bitexchange.biz)
If thats true count me in the scammed by him.. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on January 05, 2013, 05:52:59 AM same guy. I did not take my money back from Paypal. I'm trying yet...
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: nethead on January 05, 2013, 07:28:13 AM same guy. I did not take my money back from Paypal. I'm trying yet... Hope you do m8, me neither from ukash.. They needed a lawyer to revert payment and i guess i cannot use a lawyer for bitcoins, i have spoken to him about that incident but.. Also they told to use ActionFraud but they didnt do much also.. too bad he will see those messages and will laugh, but i WISH to spend those money on doctors :) Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: felipelalli on January 05, 2013, 05:20:01 PM (...) but i WISH to spend those money on doctors :) psychologists? Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: mitty on January 20, 2013, 08:22:05 PM PayPal gave me my money back about a week ago... as annoying as it is from a seller's point of view, PayPal is pretty great if you're a buyer who has actually been scammed.
Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: 21after2 on January 20, 2013, 08:24:50 PM PayPal gave me my money back about a week ago... as annoying as it is from a seller's point of view, PayPal is pretty great if you're a buyer who has actually been scammed. Yup. It's kind of a necessary evil on their part. Title: Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com Post by: DreDri on January 22, 2013, 12:03:45 PM Oh wow. I've been working with local PD and Greendot and (with the nudge of my lawyer) they've escalated to the Internet Fraud Division of the FBI.
Wait until I show them this thread. (removes dog collars) |