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Title: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: hidalgojames on December 30, 2012, 02:26:04 PM Anyone knows about this site?
Seems to be a scam. http://www.ripoffreport.com/accounting/virwox-com/virwox-com-www-virwox-com-scam-210d7.htm http://www.reviewstalk.com/complaints-reviews/virwox-com-l23844.html Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: hidalgojames on December 30, 2012, 02:29:48 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53885.0
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: KingGoon on December 30, 2012, 02:47:37 PM I dont think its a scam
Been with virwox for over a year now and never had any issues :) Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: chmod755 on December 30, 2012, 02:55:19 PM Been with virwox for over a year now and never had any issues :) Me too. VirWoX is very careful with user funds and may temporarily lock your account for suspicious activity (never happened to me), but they'll unlock it if you send them an email (unless you tried to scam VirWoX). Also: I met Prof. Frank Kappe of VirWoX in real-life. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: SouthernComfort on December 30, 2012, 05:44:42 PM Let me give you my experiance with VirWox. I made a 500$ Linden purchase on Second Life. Transferred the funds to Virwox then I exchanged them for BTC. When I tried to withdraw them to my Bitcoin wallet I was told there was a 24 hour "manual step" I had to wait for. During that time Second Life thought my order was suspicious and decided to put my account on hold, and actually requested my Bitcoins back from Virwox where they exchanged it back down to Lindens. After a week of dealing with the idiots at second life my account was finally put off hold. During that time period the price for Bitcoins rised from 12$-14$. I also had to pay another 4% fees to exchange my Lindens BACK into Bitcoins. I asked Second Life for reimbursement of my loss with NO RESPONSE. Shows how much they value their customers. I then asked Virwox and I was gave the amount of Bitcoins I bought in the first place(12$ per coin) plus they payed for the fee's. They did this all, even though the fault is completely on Second Life. A VERY good company, extremely good customer service and trustworthy. Highly recommended and I doubt they scammed.
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: lassdas on December 30, 2012, 09:39:41 PM I've been trading on Virwox for about 3years now and there's not much i can complain about.
Sure, that "manual step" they do when you withdraw your money is a bit inconvenient and might take some time, but you'll get your money. Sure, the fees are high, but it works and is still way cheaper than at their competitors (on the SLL-Market). I made a 500$ Linden purchase on Second Life. ..... During that time Second Life thought my order was suspicious and decided to put my account on hold, and actually requested my Bitcoins back from Virwox where they exchanged it back down to Lindens. That's the main problem when dealing with SLL, don't ever accept any SLL in-world if you don't know and fully trust the seller! You simply don't know if it's "fraudulent lindens". When someone pays you lindens in SecondLife, they can be "fake", or stolen, or whatever LindenLabs decides, it's their money, not yours. They can do whatever they want and they will do it. But, all that is a problem of SecondLife and LindenLabs, not VirWox. It's the reason why that inconvenient "manual step" is required, even VirWox can't know for sure, if those lindens they receive from users are "fraudulent" or not. If LindenLabs decides to remove those funds, they can and will. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: hamdi on December 30, 2012, 10:22:07 PM follow this tutorial
it shows you how to use virwox without any Second-Life connections, thus saving you a lot of headache: www.scribd.com/doc/110005258/Buy-Bitcoin-via-Paypal-Paysafecard-Credit-Card-Ukash enjoy Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: lassdas on December 30, 2012, 10:27:03 PM hamdi, spamming your reflink makes no sense here,
he already has a VirWox-account anyway and already knows how to use it. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: Third Way on December 31, 2012, 12:43:36 AM How do people "Fake" lindens if anyone would mind explaining?
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: lassdas on December 31, 2012, 12:55:36 AM LindenLabs doesn't let us know, we can only guess what "fraudulent lindens" are. They're most probably not actually fake, but rather stolen, scammed, phished, or something like that.
The point is, that lindens aren't safe in any way, even if you received them from a friend, he might own "fraudulent lindens" without knowing and if he does and pays them to you, LindenLabs will come and get them sooner or later (might take 2weeks or more). LindenLabs is way worse than PayPal. The best way is to not trade in-world at all, as long as you only trade on the VirWox platform, you should be good. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: DealBreaker on December 31, 2012, 01:26:01 AM orly
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: hamdi on December 31, 2012, 07:53:06 PM hamdi, spamming your reflink makes no sense here, he already has a VirWox-account anyway and already knows how to use it. he obviously doesnt know how to use virwox without a 2ndlife account. this tutorial shows it. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: SouthernComfort on December 31, 2012, 08:26:51 PM Quote That's the main problem when dealing with SLL, don't ever accept any SLL in-world if you don't know and fully trust the seller! The purchase was made from Linden Labs, not any other dealer. I to, had 0 understanding of what "fraudulent lindens" are and they never bothered explaining it to me. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: SouthernComfort on December 31, 2012, 08:33:52 PM Quote orly If your going to post stupid shit for more number of posts at least spell the word right. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: molotox on March 30, 2013, 01:54:52 PM Be carefull with this site. I never got my Bitcoins...
Luckily I was refounded by Paypal. DONT USE THIS SITE!!!! Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: yolo2222 on May 12, 2013, 04:34:01 PM Be carefull with this site. I never got my Bitcoins... Luckily I was refounded by Paypal. DONT USE THIS SITE!!!! Could you please explain the situation? Cheers Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: lassdas on May 31, 2013, 05:14:31 PM Be carefull with this site. I never got my Bitcoins... I call BS.Luckily I was refounded by Paypal. DONT USE THIS SITE!!!! I've been using VirWox for years now and I ALWAYS received my Euros, I ALWAYS received my Lindens and I ALWAYS received my Bitcoins. I never had any problems at all doing hundreds, if not thousands of trades. The fees are high (up to 3.9% per trade), there's a huge delay (up to 72hrs) to receive withdrawals, but it works, there's no doubt about that. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: Voodah on May 31, 2013, 06:11:30 PM I got my BTC through VirWox. No problem.
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: engiejim on April 05, 2014, 11:51:01 PM Be carefull with this site. I never got my Bitcoins... Luckily I was refounded by Paypal. DONT USE THIS SITE!!!! I wanted to buy a small amount of bitcoins for fun and someone referred me to VirWoX. I didn't understand how the system worked and was shocked at all the fees each time I transferred from one currency to the next. I only started with US$ 4.50 transferred from Paypal to VirWoX. That went down to US$4.05 after the Paypal fee. Then I had to exchange that to Linden dollars becasue they only exchange bitcoins for L$ and there was another fee of a flat L$ 50L plus a percentage. I had L$ 878.66 in my Virwox account (which is only worth $3.84 at the normal exchange rate with Linden Labs). Then I tried to use that to buy some bitcoins but I didn't have enough because there is a charge of 0.02 BTC for each transaction. bitcoins are currently worth about US$ 500 so that works out to be a US$ 10 fee. When I wrote to VirWoX explaining the situation they immediately refunded the full Paypal amount. It did seem like a scam to start with but now I understand things a bit better I don't think it's any worse than a normal bank and they replied to my email and had refunded the Paypal amount less than an hour after I sent them the email. VirWoX might be ok for large transactions but for the first time you can only exchange about US$ 100 for security reasons until they get to trust you. So after all the fees from one currency to the next you might lose a bit of money. If bitcoins were still only $10 each the 0.02 BTC charge would only be 20 cents and it would be a more feasible way to play around with a small amount of bitcoins. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: LuckyBtc on April 06, 2014, 08:00:26 AM Virwox is legit but their fees is too high. I've traded couple of btc with ease.
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: john641 on April 06, 2014, 09:14:12 AM Virwox is legit you have to wait longer and has higher fees.
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: nasthedon on April 06, 2014, 11:37:53 AM Why did you bump this old thread? Anyway, don't use that type of sites.
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: techgeek on April 06, 2014, 05:01:15 PM Its legit, its been here for awhile, most people dont use it since the fees add up to paying 2-3 different ones. With the lindin dollar thing which their currency fee plus paypal, then the btc value kicks in.
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: BunsenBurner on April 06, 2014, 06:24:47 PM Virwox is legit but their fees is too high. I've traded couple of btc with ease. +1. The fee is high, and you need to go through two trades to buy/sell your bitcoins and need to pay the fee twice. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: MadridReal on April 07, 2014, 09:08:11 AM My best friend got his bitcoins through VirWox without any problems
Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: TanteStefana on April 27, 2014, 10:48:00 PM Buying BTC via Paypal>VirWox>SSL>BTC cost 3.9% at each turn and a conservative, truthful 17.5%, probably more, commission on the whole mess when taking into consideration that the prices you pay on their exchange are far higher than any other. Plus, being new, they are holding my BTC for 48 hours, so I didn’t even get speed from them.
I highly suggest never using them. I paid the price, if you read this, please don’t pay the price as well! Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: Sonny on April 27, 2014, 10:55:19 PM Buying BTC via Paypal>VirWox>SSL>BTC cost 3.9% at each turn and a conservative, truthful 17.5%, probably more, commission on the whole mess when taking into consideration that the prices you pay on their exchange are far higher than any other. Plus, being new, they are holding my BTC for 48 hours, so I didn’t even get speed from them. I highly suggest never using them. I paid the price, if you read this, please don’t pay the price as well! For those who really want to buy bitcoin with Paypal, they can withdraw paypal to bank accounts and then buy bitcoin with wire transfer or cash trades. Title: Re: VIRWOX scam ? Post by: neochiny on January 06, 2017, 03:37:03 AM VIRWOX IS VERY GENUINE AND PROFESSIONAL. I searched for a reliable exchange that could offer me the convenience of buying bitcoin with my credit card, and at the same time not charge very high fees because of the convenience; luckily, i found virwox, and they enabled me to register from a country which other exchange companies do not grant full access to. Not only did they enable me to register and buy bitcoin, they charged low transaction fees compared to other exchange companies who accept credit card purchase. However, with virwox, the higher the amount of fiat currency you deposit, the less relevant your transaction fee tends to be, but if you are depositing smaller amounts, then, the bigger the transaction fee might look to you; but either way, the fixed transaction fee is less than $1, while the percentage transaction fee is not higher than 3.5% (as at the time of writing this). After depositing your fiat currency, you should change/convert it to SLL, then, after that, use the SLL to buy bitcoin. All on the same website; and all these take less than 30 seconds to complete. When your bitcoin is already in your Virwox account, and you can see the number of coins on your dashboard, kindly withdraw the coins to whichever wallet you choose to. NOTE: if you are a new user, your withdrawal could take up to 48hours (sometimes it could take less) to be sent to your wallet. Just be patient, your coins will arrive safely. For older users, it could take less than an hour or more, but not more than 48hours, except on rare occasions which after everything, you will still be happy as no one is ever ripped off when it comes to virwox transactions. Virwox is very real and very reliable. Cheers. Very well. I agree that Virwox is indeed not a scam. I haven't had any problems with my past purchases. The only thing is, they do charge high fees. I've also made several inquiries to their support before and got some timely answers. Nevertheless, may I ask why you are grave digging?? This thread is from 2012-2014, so you're answering concerns raised 5 years back. I clicked the thread thinking it was some new accusation against Virwox. ::) |