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Title: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: whybanfox on January 27, 2016, 01:00:06 PM
hi, my account fox19891989 has been banned yesterday, i emailed the address which you offered me, but non response at all.

please tell me the reason why you banned me, and how long does it take? Thanks, mods.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Lauda on January 27, 2016, 01:07:18 PM
For anyone that wants to review the post history, here is a link to the account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102697;sa=showPosts). I wouldn't know why you were banned although I can tell you this:
i emailed the address which you offered me, but non response at all.
These things take time. Don't expect a response so quickly. How about you give us some information; is anything stated in the ban message? Also keep in mind that you must not post outside of this section (i.e. your thread) for the duration of your ban or you will be permanently banned.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: hilariousandco on January 27, 2016, 01:16:47 PM
i just wanted summarize from this thread....
1. Faucet earning
2. Signature campaign
3. Freelancing
4. Selling goods for BTC
5. BTC oriented sevices.
6. Bitcoin lending

I guess I can do first 3 now itself.... :)

I just wanted summarize from this thread....
1. Faucet earning
2. Signature campaign
3. Freelancing
4. Selling goods for BTC
5. BTC oriented sevices.
6. Bitcoin lending

I guess I can do first 3 now itself....

I'm hoarding bitcoin and probably won't see myself selling for some years and if I do sell it will be a small bit. I don't have a ton of Bitcoin, but it's rising steadily. I also tend to not care about what 1BTC = However many USDs, I'm just behind the awesome concept.

I'm hoarding bitcoin and probably won't see myself selling for some years and if I do sell it will be a small bit. I don't have a ton of Bitcoin, but it's rising steadily. I also tend to not care about what 1BTC = However many USDs, I'm just behind the awesome concept.

Recently I started buying and selling domain names and I think there is a lot of opportunities to make money there. You can register domain names using Bitcoin on Namecheap and it's super easy, just be careful not to get overenthusiastic, most domain names people buy and think are awesome are actually worthless. You need to do some research before you invest.

Recently I started buying and selling domain names and I think there is a lot of opportunities to make money there. You can register domain names using Bitcoin on Namecheap and it's super easy, just be careful not to get overenthusiastic, most domain names people buy and think are awesome are actually worthless. You need to do some research before you invest.

I could go on.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: whybanfox on January 27, 2016, 01:41:29 PM
hi, mod hilariousandco, ok i know the reason now, i won't post like that in the future, i will post better in the future. 

could u tell me when will you unban me? i like this forum very much, i hope you won't ban me for too long time. Thanks very much!


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: shorena on January 27, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
hi, mod hilariousandco, ok i know the reason now, i won't post like that in the future, i will post better in the future. 

could u tell me when will you unban me? i like this forum very much, i hope you won't ban me for too long time. Thanks very much!

Is there no time given when you log in?


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Gildarts on January 27, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
hi, mod hilariousandco, ok i know the reason now, i won't post like that in the future, i will post better in the future. 

could u tell me when will you unban me? i like this forum very much, i hope you won't ban me for too long time. Thanks very much!

I don't think they will remove ban from you as i saw situation like this in the past and they didn't remove ban.

but good luck for you.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: whybanfox on January 27, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
hi, mod hilariousandco, ok i know the reason now, i won't post like that in the future, i will post better in the future. 

could u tell me when will you unban me? i like this forum very much, i hope you won't ban me for too long time. Thanks very much!

Is there no time given when you log in?

no sir, only say i am banned, and gave me an email to appeal


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: hilariousandco on January 27, 2016, 02:02:39 PM
Copy and paste = permanent.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: minifrij on January 27, 2016, 02:03:23 PM
hi, mod hilariousandco, ok i know the reason now, i won't post like that in the future, i will post better in the future.
You should have posted well from the beginning. Why did you think that copy-pasting posts when you have a signature and avatar campaign was acceptable?
Just for reference though, I think that 'No copy-pasting posts' should be added to the rule list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0), so people can't complain that they didn't know if they get banned for it.

could u tell me when will you unban me? i like this forum very much, i hope you won't ban me for too long time. Thanks very much!
If there is no time stated on the ban message when you log in then it means you are banned permanently. If this is the case, do not try to post again on any account outside of Meta or said account will also be banned.
Otherwise, the time stated on the message is the time you are banned for.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: whybanfox on January 27, 2016, 03:17:21 PM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: hilariousandco on January 27, 2016, 03:20:24 PM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

You shouldn't have to be told to not copy and paste other's posts. It's spam. You knew exactly what you were doing and that it wouldn't be acceptable.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: EthanB on January 27, 2016, 03:24:20 PM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

You shouldn't have to be told to not copy and paste other's posts. It's spam. You knew exactly what you were doing and that it wouldn't be acceptable.

Just because the rule isn't explicitly labeled doesn't mean that it isn't common sense. Some rules are just simple etiquette, this forum is for productive and meaningful discussion (at least originally)..
Looks like you get to start fresh.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Avirunes on January 27, 2016, 03:27:13 PM
i just wanted summarize from this thread....
1. Faucet earning
2. Signature campaign
3. Freelancing
4. Selling goods for BTC
5. BTC oriented sevices.
6. Bitcoin lending

I guess I can do first 3 now itself.... :)

I just wanted summarize from this thread....
1. Faucet earning
2. Signature campaign
3. Freelancing
4. Selling goods for BTC
5. BTC oriented sevices.
6. Bitcoin lending

I guess I can do first 3 now itself....

I'm hoarding bitcoin and probably won't see myself selling for some years and if I do sell it will be a small bit. I don't have a ton of Bitcoin, but it's rising steadily. I also tend to not care about what 1BTC = However many USDs, I'm just behind the awesome concept.

I'm hoarding bitcoin and probably won't see myself selling for some years and if I do sell it will be a small bit. I don't have a ton of Bitcoin, but it's rising steadily. I also tend to not care about what 1BTC = However many USDs, I'm just behind the awesome concept.

Recently I started buying and selling domain names and I think there is a lot of opportunities to make money there. You can register domain names using Bitcoin on Namecheap and it's super easy, just be careful not to get overenthusiastic, most domain names people buy and think are awesome are actually worthless. You need to do some research before you invest.

Recently I started buying and selling domain names and I think there is a lot of opportunities to make money there. You can register domain names using Bitcoin on Namecheap and it's super easy, just be careful not to get overenthusiastic, most domain names people buy and think are awesome are actually worthless. You need to do some research before you invest.

I could go on.

Wow awesome catch @hilariousandco . ;D. Fox was pretty smart but you can't trick hilarious.

hilariousandco=>Strict and fair


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: whybanfox on January 27, 2016, 04:10:50 PM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

You shouldn't have to be told to not copy and paste other's posts. It's spam. You knew exactly what you were doing and that it wouldn't be acceptable.

i didn't know it is spam and it will be banned, and i still think u should give me 1 more chance to be better.  :(



Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: s1ng on January 27, 2016, 04:15:47 PM
....
i didn't know it is spam and it will be banned, and i still think u should give me 1 more chance to be better.  :(



There are many same incident just like you did , you can check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278196.0

Those thread is somekind of warning that copying is extremely forbidden so there are heavy punishment for it.

Give another chance ?
Those thread already give you warning but you still break the rule :-\


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: mexxer-2 on January 27, 2016, 04:23:38 PM
i didn't know it is spam and it will be banned, and i still think u should give me 1 more chance to be better.  :(


You were caught copy-pasting , which is even worse than sig farming, for which you get a warning of 14 days ban (IIRC). Make a ban appeal in the future , several months from now and one of the admins may take pity on you and unban you.
i didn't know it is spam and it will be banned, and i still think u should give me 1 more chance to be better.  :(


You're making a fool out of yourself by the minute


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Quickseller on January 27, 2016, 04:39:58 PM
A number of people have been banned for copy/paste posting in the past, and they often had complained publicly about it. There is no reason why anyone would rationally think it is okay to engage in this practice, and there is no reason why anyone who engages in this should be given a second chance


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Heutenamos on January 27, 2016, 06:56:43 PM
i emailed the address which you offered me, but non response at all.
It's just a formality/boilerplate ,In reality you wont get a reply from him.There is a way to get the fastest/quickest reply though.

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Wow, looks like there is an increase in number of assistants. ::) ::)


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: redsn0w on January 27, 2016, 08:04:07 PM
A number of people have been banned for copy/paste posting in the past, and they often had complained publicly about it. There is no reason why anyone would rationally think it is okay to engage in this practice, and there is no reason why anyone who engages in this should be given a second chance

Exactly;

@OP , why are you complaining ;D? Enjoy your hiatus !  /sarcasm


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: ABitNut on January 27, 2016, 11:57:45 PM
I can't believe they're actually claiming ignorance, as if copying like that would be somehow acceptable if there wasn't an explicit rule. This shouldn't need a rule at all; it's blatantly obvious that you don't go around copying like this.

Actually I'm going to assume they used a script to automate this process. Would it be useful to have a script checking for duplicate posts?

It seems dear fox had been doing this for a long time before they got caught and if my assumption is right it would be fairly trivial for them to change their script and start using another account with it.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: acroman08 on January 28, 2016, 10:44:59 AM
hi, mod hilariousandco, ok i know the reason now, i won't post like that in the future, i will post better in the future. 

could u tell me when will you unban me? i like this forum very much, i hope you won't ban me for too long time. Thanks very much!

im not sure why would you copy somones post? its not that hard to make your own.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: ShakinHandz on January 29, 2016, 12:52:08 AM
hi, mod hilariousandco, ok i know the reason now, i won't post like that in the future, i will post better in the future. 

could u tell me when will you unban me? i like this forum very much, i hope you won't ban me for too long time. Thanks very much!

You should had been much careful about it from before , you just wasted a 2013 account , You could turn Legendary at any time as you had a good activity 840 , If you have other accounts please stop using them , else they will soon be banned.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 29, 2016, 03:54:38 AM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

You shouldn't have to be told to not copy and paste other's posts. It's spam. You knew exactly what you were doing and that it wouldn't be acceptable.
This.  It's common sense, and you can't honestly claim you didn't know what you were doing was wrong. So save all the bullshit. Good riddance.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on January 29, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
I remember fox19891989 from seeing him make crazy big bets in the gambling section. I warned him to stop doing it because he'd lose eventually.

Hard luck buddy, hopefully they'll take pity on you eventually. I enjoyed talking to you in the gambling section.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: GannickusX on January 29, 2016, 11:27:19 AM
I can't believe they're actually claiming ignorance, as if copying like that would be somehow acceptable if there wasn't an explicit rule. This shouldn't need a rule at all; it's blatantly obvious that you don't go around copying like this.

Actually I'm going to assume they used a script to automate this process. Would it be useful to have a script checking for duplicate posts?

It seems dear fox had been doing this for a long time before they got caught and if my assumption is right it would be fairly trivial for them to change their script and start using another account with it.

Specially someone who has been registered since 2013 with more than 5k posts. Like what has he been doing all these years? Unless the account was sold there is no way he didn't know and if he really didn't know he should still be banned for his stupidity, honestly.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 29, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
I can't believe they're actually claiming ignorance, as if copying like that would be somehow acceptable if there wasn't an explicit rule. This shouldn't need a rule at all; it's blatantly obvious that you don't go around copying like this.

Actually I'm going to assume they used a script to automate this process. Would it be useful to have a script checking for duplicate posts?

It seems dear fox had been doing this for a long time before they got caught and if my assumption is right it would be fairly trivial for them to change their script and start using another account with it.

Specially someone who has been registered since 2013 with more than 5k posts. Like what has he been doing all these years? Unless the account was sold there is no way he didn't know and if he really didn't know he should still be banned for his stupidity, honestly.
Jesus.  I didn't even look at his profile but he definitely should have known better.   I think the account was probably sold but I don't have evidence of this.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Bitinity on February 01, 2016, 06:06:27 AM
Copy and paste other posts is cosidered as spam, but how about copy and paste from a bitcoin news site? Is that considered as spam or not? Lets say I found a good news on the internet, then I make a thread which is just copying the opening paragraphs and I put the link of its original source.  Could I get banned because of it?


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: hilariousandco on February 01, 2016, 08:42:59 AM
Copy and paste other posts is cosidered as spam, but how about copy and paste from a bitcoin news site? Is that considered as spam or not? Lets say I found a good news on the internet, then I make a thread which is just copying the opening paragraphs and I put the link of its original source.  Could I get banned because of it?

You won't get perma banned for it but if all you're doing is copy and pasting articles as a way to collect sig money you'll likely get a warning to stop. People have been banned in the past for using bots to copy content from news sites and it can be an easy/lazy way to spam whilst going unnoticed. You can report it if you see people doing it.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: 007eminem on February 01, 2016, 09:02:32 AM
When I taking look at his post history I thought why he got banned as he has a good post quality. But when I found he was doing a copy-paste stuff then he deserved a permanent ban.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Bitinity on February 01, 2016, 09:37:56 AM
Copy and paste other posts is cosidered as spam, but how about copy and paste from a bitcoin news site? Is that considered as spam or not? Lets say I found a good news on the internet, then I make a thread which is just copying the opening paragraphs and I put the link of its original source.  Could I get banned because of it?

You won't get perma banned for it but if all you're doing is copy and pasting articles as a way to collect sig money you'll likely get a warning to stop. People have been banned in the past for using bots to copy content from news sites and it can be an easy/lazy way to spam whilst going unnoticed. You can report it if you see people doing it.

What do you think about this kind of posts, is it considered as spam?

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This is just an example, because this account made so many posts like above post, just copy and paste from the original source.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: whybanfox on February 02, 2016, 08:33:21 AM
I can't believe they're actually claiming ignorance, as if copying like that would be somehow acceptable if there wasn't an explicit rule. This shouldn't need a rule at all; it's blatantly obvious that you don't go around copying like this.

Actually I'm going to assume they used a script to automate this process. Would it be useful to have a script checking for duplicate posts?

It seems dear fox had been doing this for a long time before they got caught and if my assumption is right it would be fairly trivial for them to change their script and start using another account with it.

Specially someone who has been registered since 2013 with more than 5k posts. Like what has he been doing all these years? Unless the account was sold there is no way he didn't know and if he really didn't know he should still be banned for his stupidity, honestly.
Jesus.  I didn't even look at his profile but he definitely should have known better.   I think the account was probably sold but I don't have evidence of this.

It is not sold, still me, I did copy-paste thing cause I needed some posts before the deadline, so I did it, of course I shouldn't do it.

Copy and paste other posts is cosidered as spam, but how about copy and paste from a bitcoin news site? Is that considered as spam or not? Lets say I found a good news on the internet, then I make a thread which is just copying the opening paragraphs and I put the link of its original source.  Could I get banned because of it?

You won't get perma banned for it but if all you're doing is copy and pasting articles as a way to collect sig money you'll likely get a warning to stop. People have been banned in the past for using bots to copy content from news sites and it can be an easy/lazy way to spam whilst going unnoticed. You can report it if you see people doing it.

Now that my fox19891989 banned permanently by you, I should make a new account, right? But today I find you banned my new account permanently(not this one: whybanfox), it doesn't make sense, because btc and btc-related things should be anon and free, but you only allow 1 person/1 ip/1 account?


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: shorena on February 02, 2016, 08:51:56 AM
-snip-
Now that my fox19891989 banned permanently by you, I should make a new account, right?

No, you are banned. You the person behind the computer, not only the account. The "whybanfox" account will be banned as soon as you create a single post that is not discussing your ban. Every other account you ever create will be banned as soon as someone finds a connection.

But today I find you banned my new account permanently(not this one: whybanfox), it doesn't make sense, because btc and btc-related things should be anon and free, but you only allow 1 person/1 ip/1 account?

No, you can have as many account as you want, unless you are banned permanently. Well you can still have as many accounts as you want, they are all banned though.

This also has nothing to do with bitcoin. Maybe this[1] can help.

[1] https://xkcd.com/1357/


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: BadBear on February 02, 2016, 09:47:08 AM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

If you need a specific rule to tell you not to post that way, then you aren't wanted here. And by you, I mean you. Not just one specific account, and yes I banned your other account too.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: whybanfox on February 02, 2016, 10:19:41 AM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

If you need a specific rule to tell you not to post that way, then you aren't wanted here. And by you, I mean you. Not just one specific account, and yes I banned your other account too.

Hi, mod, but I guarantee i won't copy paste other's post in the future, and i know i was wrong, but I still can't post here in the future? Come on you should give me more chance.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: minifrij on February 02, 2016, 10:24:23 AM
Hi, mod, but I guarantee i won't copy paste other's post in the future, and i know i was wrong, but I still can't post here in the future?
No, you cannot post here in the future. If you try to on another account, said account will be banned when* it is found to be you (*Note when: The mods will find that it is you).

Come on you should give me more chance.
Why should they? You knowingly broke a rule and tried to spam the forum for your own personal gain (signature payments). You made your bed, now lie in it.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: Heutenamos on February 02, 2016, 10:52:06 AM
Try pming Bear in a month or two ,it's a bit flamy right now and I don't think he will unban you this sooner.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: 007eminem on February 02, 2016, 03:55:43 PM
-snip-
Now that my fox19891989 banned permanently by you, I should make a new account, right?

No, you are banned. You the person behind the computer, not only the account. The "whybanfox" account will be banned as soon as you create a single post that is not discussing your ban. Every other account you ever create will be banned as soon as someone finds a connection.


According to you, he is banned, forever, from here? and he will never be able to talk here?


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: shorena on February 02, 2016, 09:18:44 PM
-snip-
Now that my fox19891989 banned permanently by you, I should make a new account, right?

No, you are banned. You the person behind the computer, not only the account. The "whybanfox" account will be banned as soon as you create a single post that is not discussing your ban. Every other account you ever create will be banned as soon as someone finds a connection.


According to you, he is banned, forever, from here? and he will never be able to talk here?

-snip-
If you need a specific rule to tell you not to post that way, then you aren't wanted here. And by you, I mean you. Not just one specific account, and yes I banned your other account too.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: botany on February 03, 2016, 01:20:14 AM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

If you need a specific rule to tell you not to post that way, then you aren't wanted here. And by you, I mean you. Not just one specific account, and yes I banned your other account too.

Is there a minimum number of copy-paste posts to trigger a ban?
This (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163169.msg13372498#msg13372498) report had 5 examples, but the account was not banned.


Title: Re: why ban fox19891989?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 03, 2016, 01:34:14 AM
Copy and paste = permanent.

didn't see the rule in the list shown in 9th floor, and you should give me a chance please, i made good posts before, and i will do more contributions to this forum.

if i saw this rule of course i wouldn't do like that, so forgive me and i am very sorry.

If you need a specific rule to tell you not to post that way, then you aren't wanted here. And by you, I mean you. Not just one specific account, and yes I banned your other account too.

Hi, mod, but I guarantee i won't copy paste other's post in the future, and i know i was wrong, but I still can't post here in the future? Come on you should give me more chance.
I don't mean this in a trolling way: Stop acting like a fucking child wheedling a parent.  Take the consequences and move on.