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Title: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2016, 06:54:13 PM
https://blockchain.info/tx/86ac9939ee02a134057acb472a6703251faba6a278219cfdfb6f86227e184045


been stuck for a while more then a few hours.

This address sends slow as shit.

I get this problem over and over again.

it is listed as high priority

and it is delaying this transaction.


https://blockchain.info/tx/f36c42c7e58d2e75c98ff5551864cfc6bb3292409de5ea3b21930c685a534b62

I put a really high fee here as I hoped some one would pick up both transactions.

I get really annoyed at this issue I do not understand why my address

https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

sends slow. 


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: wayniac30 on January 27, 2016, 06:59:35 PM
I used to have the same thing.... i think it's because the receiving address spends the unconfirmed bitcoins. I noticed this makes me slow down a lot.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2016, 07:12:26 PM
I used to have the same thing.... i think it's because the receiving address spends the unconfirmed bitcoins. I noticed this makes me slow down a lot.

It was the same wallet  which really fucking annoys me.

I pay a fee to switch inside the same wallet for internal account purposes.

Now I have 30 plus coins stuck on the second send.

This problem is one of BTC's biggest issues.

I am going to get into it in detail here.  Later today.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: shorena on January 27, 2016, 07:16:29 PM
#1 reasonable fee, check.
Currently estimatefee 1 -> 0.00044328
the TX in question 0.0002 per 2053 so ~0.00009742
estimatefee 15 -> 0.00007770
estimatefee 14 -> 0.00010533

Should thus confirm after ~14-15 blocks according to core.

#2 no dust outputs, check.
#3 no unconfirmed inputs, check.

Should be confirmed in a few hours, I gave it a push. If anyone wants to help, here is the raw TX.

Code:
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


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: wayniac30 on January 27, 2016, 09:16:12 PM
Got the same problem.... again...

https://blockchain.info/tx/d1de744a8a0515d209b60cbfeb9c3ac50c2e64058cf87e7405279413cf622d3f


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: shorena on January 27, 2016, 09:36:14 PM
Got the same problem.... again...

https://blockchain.info/tx/d1de744a8a0515d209b60cbfeb9c3ac50c2e64058cf87e7405279413cf622d3f

Thats confirmed though.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: wayniac30 on January 27, 2016, 09:44:10 PM
Got the same problem.... again...

https://blockchain.info/tx/d1de744a8a0515d209b60cbfeb9c3ac50c2e64058cf87e7405279413cf622d3f

Thats confirmed though.

Yeah it did now... took over 30 mins though with fee higher as recommended.

Very weird that happens a lot to me somehow.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2016, 09:56:23 PM
Got the same problem.... again...

https://blockchain.info/tx/d1de744a8a0515d209b60cbfeb9c3ac50c2e64058cf87e7405279413cf622d3f

Thats confirmed though.

Yeah it did now... took over 30 mins though with fee higher as recommended.

Very weird that happens a lot to me somehow.

I suspect there is a flag against addresses.

my address is old and has had 1000 plus transactions.

It is now more then 23 blocks and more then 5 hours since my tx id  was  done

I would not be so annoyed but it now has locked up a new transaction of 30 plus coins.

I also am annoyed since the first transaction should be instant and free.  this address

https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje  is the old address with 1328 transactions dating back to 2012


this address is newer

https://blockchain.info/address/1BHKKrAh5oTacQnmjfACXjE9cGyFRR8rVD

but in the same wallet.

So I did a transfer within my own wallet.

I spent 0.0002 to do it and All my funds are frozen. Along with 28 coins from other people

 Not good.

here is proof it is between the same wallet

https://i.imgur.com/qlLwKXP.png


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: wayniac30 on January 27, 2016, 09:59:18 PM


I suspect there is a flag against addresses.



Makes me think.... you mean they "flag" old addresses? I'm not following you on this one...


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: achow101 on January 27, 2016, 10:05:43 PM
I suspect there is a flag against addresses.
There is not. Nothing "flags" an address for being old or prevents an old address from spending.

The problem here is the size of the transaction. As Shorena said, the fee isn't sufficient for a transaction of this size. All you can do is wait.

You could attempt a double spend transaction which would simply boost the fee (an RBF transaction). Basically you just need to send the transaction again but with a higher fee.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2016, 10:12:49 PM
I suspect there is a flag against addresses.
There is not. Nothing "flags" an address for being old or prevents an old address from spending.

The problem here is the size of the transaction. As Shorena said, the fee isn't sufficient for a transaction of this size. All you can do is wait.

You could attempt a double spend transaction which would simply boost the fee (an RBF transaction). Basically you just need to send the transaction again but with a higher fee.

so what should 2.79 coins cost to transfer?

and while I am at what should 30 coins cost to move?


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: wayniac30 on January 27, 2016, 10:17:22 PM
I suspect there is a flag against addresses.
There is not. Nothing "flags" an address for being old or prevents an old address from spending.

The problem here is the size of the transaction. As Shorena said, the fee isn't sufficient for a transaction of this size. All you can do is wait.

You could attempt a double spend transaction which would simply boost the fee (an RBF transaction). Basically you just need to send the transaction again but with a higher fee.

so what should 2.79 coins cost to transfer?

and while I am at what should 30 coins cost to move?

I did notice when you use a wallet with a lot of addresses the coins get spread all over those addresses which makes one transaction rather large in size because some wallets generate a lot of inputs. Example: https://blockchain.info/tx/86ac9939ee02a134057acb472a6703251faba6a278219cfdfb6f86227e184045

Input scripts:

Code:
Input Scripts
304402205c3b505608aa2d3406368bd60c6e100ac3772152258392693a2de8987094c1e602204af269215bd2c3544f546177d42f81498e7d1ee203905982e8b1b5a08eb7895801 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
304402205b577cf966eb969916e8df2b4e0ef747e4a1122ccb3f770713b921d83d17d73202206c2c8599a9c8d94f60157fe42e487b4fa715d117fe5cb4da54fbf7a5c98abeb701 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
3045022100a21f111f395cc01218298bb552ff0d6c52666d0eccf24c9387f409db48366d3b02201d94261a35787fbff255b09452caf5f6de9f14a6bdc69e7439c807c40d97bd8201 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
3044022023193893c7f5ee46739bfc6cb6425cc3b4d64e6b32271cad706d811adcfbae520220172051d18dac6eb5e6098c8d2c2f1851f04f024069cb35eabdf633f39fdbd0ab01 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
3044022034e2b94f612a72123133d6dd99f419dc4131b612af3fac4f207a8a7c58023951022031e3fdabc0a40677b728cd25bc9d7295716f31ece5e45ace60d8e063d0d8695d01 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
3045022100c870ac4defbe8b3d779555a2303b959397caabeb1ea99142f1b877c5e9efb39602200c4c796bb0777cc7a5cb3e55ae14fd81822a89d805b3308fa609d453243c6b4601 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
3045022100c66880417f782a9bbf6e3e282eaa1658c57382b609360353b694bdc7668f885a02205449ea559a7244043c79ca50f1c1b774c9921a6b7349f64f0b44926f4b20241501 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
30440220592eaf7442a4336b315cab97e451bf58b6292b96ee92f86c41c4212d5641681a022033a3471bdcf2fc2a34c2fb6f6cfe390601b18ad2ff87ecea0a08bec1397641bd01 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
3045022100dcc8ea0d921fe5b6e6e556b33a1504598f9191d3b81c674d225e7a70e62ba58a02200e5f356b4e658af872e7a23b89264be6193c2dd34de55a493ab4238352b82d7201 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
3045022100ed89319d8bd27f20cdfbf250481c1f2eca4cade02ef02b22352db88a662019d802200afb7e378b4ca9ff4ea6fb7dbe2d7ffa5528b86e290aaec483fe1c166a85dbe301 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK
30450221009a04b3484e9f23ab971b633c0b1264db7ac8bddac7b17e596bc401034549799c02202083cacdfd108c587b148414104dcd2fc3b4694f537aad284a4fdf7e58bccaee01 04160d9b73ad553e38fb8e469700af8ab89e2d4e34bd5f450775bdd69199f96f34b6183b34044659f66891d925f080758b1c0dd8809c4fa95575dd169b6595960f OK

Size   2053 (bytes)

- Transaction fee less than recommended

Some wallets don't actually calculate this correct causing a transaction to look fine on the fees but they are actually to low because of the many inputs.

Solution: Set your standard fee to 120%


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: Nybbas on January 27, 2016, 10:27:27 PM
So after all bitcoin is far from perfect? How this can be solved?


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: wayniac30 on January 27, 2016, 10:28:29 PM
So after all bitcoin is far from perfect? How this can be solved?


Solution: Set your standard fee to 120% or more. I do 150% on some wallets with a lot of addresses.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: wayniac30 on January 27, 2016, 10:30:35 PM
By the way you could ask users like "knightdk" to push your transaction, gets confirmed very fast.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: AliceWonderMiscreations on January 27, 2016, 10:35:43 PM
So after all bitcoin is far from perfect? How this can be solved?


It's not bitcoin that is the problem, it is your wallet software.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: achow101 on January 27, 2016, 10:44:50 PM
I suspect there is a flag against addresses.
There is not. Nothing "flags" an address for being old or prevents an old address from spending.

The problem here is the size of the transaction. As Shorena said, the fee isn't sufficient for a transaction of this size. All you can do is wait.

You could attempt a double spend transaction which would simply boost the fee (an RBF transaction). Basically you just need to send the transaction again but with a higher fee.

so what should 2.79 coins cost to transfer?

and while I am at what should 30 coins cost to move?
It isn't the size of the transfer, but rather the size in bytes of the transaction. If those 2.79 Bitcoin all came from the same input, it would cost much less than what you have which comes from 11 inputs. The more inputs and outputs that you have, the larger your transaction will be. Your transaction is 2053 bytes (2.053 kilobytes) which is rather large for a transaction. With a transaction of this size, I estimate that you would need a fee of 0.00011BTC in order for it to confirm within the next block.

I use this site: http://www.cointape.com/ to calculate fees. It does it in satoshis per byte.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: ranochigo on January 27, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
So after all bitcoin is far from perfect? How this can be solved?


Solution: Set your standard fee to 120% or more. I do 150% on some wallets with a lot of addresses.
This isn't a solution. Some miners calculate the priority of paid TX from fees/kb and hence your transaction size would be rounded up to 3kb. With a fee of 0.0002BTC/3KB, it can take sometime.

By the way you could ask users like "knightdk" to push your transaction, gets confirmed very fast.
Rebroadcasting does not ensure that it will definitely confirm soon. It would still require a miner that is willing to accept it. It would allow for miners to see your TX and even include it if they hadn't or has dropped it out of the mempool.

Here's the raw tx:
Code:
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

You can go sites listed here:https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting and paste the entire code in to rebroadcast.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2016, 11:52:15 PM
I suspect there is a flag against addresses.
There is not. Nothing "flags" an address for being old or prevents an old address from spending.

The problem here is the size of the transaction. As Shorena said, the fee isn't sufficient for a transaction of this size. All you can do is wait.

You could attempt a double spend transaction which would simply boost the fee (an RBF transaction). Basically you just need to send the transaction again but with a higher fee.

so what should 2.79 coins cost to transfer?

and while I am at what should 30 coins cost to move?
It isn't the size of the transfer, but rather the size in bytes of the transaction. If those 2.79 Bitcoin all came from the same input, it would cost much less than what you have which comes from 11 inputs. The more inputs and outputs that you have, the larger your transaction will be. Your transaction is 2053 bytes (2.053 kilobytes) which is rather large for a transaction. With a transaction of this size, I estimate that you would need a fee of 0.00011BTC in order for it to confirm within the next block.

I use this site: http://www.cointape.com/ to calculate fees. It does it in satoshis per byte.

I am confused as to your estimate  I paid 0.0002 already.
The two addresses are within the same wallet.
So to push this   I need 0.00011 extra ?

If so How do I add this 0.00011 extra.

better yet can you push it for a reasonable fee>    say .005


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: achow101 on January 27, 2016, 11:56:38 PM
I am confused as to your estimate  I paid 0.0002 already.
The two addresses are within the same wallet.
So to push this   I need 0.00011 extra ?
The entire fee should have been 0.0011

If so How do I add this 0.00011 extra.
you must create a second transaction which spends exactly those same inputs just that one of the outputs has slightly less so that the fee is high enough.

I can make it for you, you just need to sign the unsigned transaction which I will create.

Edit: sorry, I had 1 too many zeros. The fee should be 110000 satoshis
Edit2: here is your unsigned transaction:
Code:
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
You can check it through various decode tx tools like this one: https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/decodetx/ and make sure that it is what you want. Then you can sign it and broadcast it. If you need help with any of those, let me know.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2016, 12:28:53 AM
I am confused as to your estimate  I paid 0.0002 already.
The two addresses are within the same wallet.
So to push this   I need 0.00011 extra ?
The entire fee should have been 0.0011

If so How do I add this 0.00011 extra.
you must create a second transaction which spends exactly those same inputs just that one of the outputs has slightly less so that the fee is high enough.

I can make it for you, you just need to sign the unsigned transaction which I will create.

Edit: sorry, I had 1 too many zeros. The fee should be 110000 satoshis

My other option would be wait for my wallet to kick out the tranaction correct?

This happened one or two other times. I did not realize the size of the transaction referred to bytes not btc.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: achow101 on January 28, 2016, 12:37:07 AM
My other option would be wait for my wallet to kick out the tranaction correct?
Yes. Since it looks like you are using blockchain.info (IMHO that is a bad idea), they will drop the transaction after 3 days.

This happened one or two other times. I did not realize the size of the transaction referred to bytes not btc.
Yes, that is a common misconception.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2016, 12:46:27 AM
My other option would be wait for my wallet to kick out the tranaction correct?
Yes. Since it looks like you are using blockchain.info (IMHO that is a bad idea), they will drop the transaction after 3 days.

This happened one or two other times. I did not realize the size of the transaction referred to bytes not btc.
Yes, that is a common misconception.

Not much other choice But to wait.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: achow101 on January 28, 2016, 12:52:17 AM
My other option would be wait for my wallet to kick out the tranaction correct?
Yes. Since it looks like you are using blockchain.info (IMHO that is a bad idea), they will drop the transaction after 3 days.

This happened one or two other times. I did not realize the size of the transaction referred to bytes not btc.
Yes, that is a common misconception.

Not much other choice But to wait.
You could try the RBF transaction. I created an unsigned tx for you that you just need to sign and then push. It is the exact same thing as your unconfirmed one except it has a higher fee to get it confirmed faster.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2016, 01:05:16 AM
My other option would be wait for my wallet to kick out the tranaction correct?
Yes. Since it looks like you are using blockchain.info (IMHO that is a bad idea), they will drop the transaction after 3 days.

This happened one or two other times. I did not realize the size of the transaction referred to bytes not btc.
Yes, that is a common misconception.

Not much other choice But to wait.
You could try the RBF transaction. I created an unsigned tx for you that you just need to sign and then push. It is the exact same thing as your unconfirmed one except it has a higher fee to get it confirmed faster.


It cleared a few minutes ago.

Thanks for help.


Title: Re: Why is this transaction stuck?
Post by: antonlevay on January 28, 2016, 11:41:03 AM
I had the exact same problem, this thread helped me out a lot. Thank you!