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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong but,
Considering the whole concept of how Bitcoins come into existence, Satoshi Nakamoto cannot be just one person, right? It must be a group...
if the whole thing lies in transactions, how could have Satoshi mined the genesis block all by himself?

Review his old posts and u may change your opinion. Even if someone did join him later on, in the begining it was his own project, and i believe he
in fact was working most of the legwork on his own. Others just helped.

Genesis block anyone can mine afaik, and all the blocks after, until you distribute client to others you are alone in mining and diff is only affected by you,
you get all the blocks in 10 mins avg. per block, until others join in.

Satoshi mined most of the first blocks himself as nobody was on the network at the beginning, including the genesis block. You don't need others to mine that one.

Satoshi prepared the basics, published a whitepaper and did the initial coding. Soon after that, he realized he couldn't do all of it alone and found help in the community he build.

So yes, you are right, he didn't build bitcoin alone, there were several developers involved, that are still known to date.

Satoshi is the project creator,and than some people or team help him to develope,so satoshi is one person i think

I agree with most part of what you wrote. But i think he involved others in the development because he wanted his project to indeed be a
non-centralized one, not that he needed any help during that stage while he was active on it.

Satoshi Nakamoto was singular from October 2008 to August 2009.
After that, then came Sirius-M, who worked with Satoshi.
Then in July 2010, Gavin and others began to appear.
Then in February 2011, many people began to appear and expanded the work.
Now today, we have over 340 "contributors".

This is my understanding.

Could be ,could not be.There aren't any relevant evidences which can prove that.Why can't? Why couldn't he have minded the genesis block alone ? There would obviously a team of developers who'd have tested multiple blocks before declaring the genesis block.By the way : https://blockchain.info/block-index/14849 ,this is the one,mr.satoshi's creation,almost 6 years ago. :)

satoshi was not alone..
but satoshi name was used by only one person.

even before 2009 genesis block, satoshi was talking to a few people on the cypherpunks forum. and many people were interested in his experiment in 2008 when he released the whitepaper.

so when it came time to start mining. he did not mine alone for 6-9 months. there were people mining the very first day.

chain analysis showed a second miner mined block 12 (no one knows who) and then someone block 28 and 29, someone at block 64.. then hal finney at block 73-78

Each time i look at genesis block address, the amount of transactions from ponzies to it increases, there really should be a stop to this.
Can you explain what you mean by "tested multiple blocks before declaring the genesis block" ? Why would something be wrong with it if the concept is solid ?

A blockchain can easily be run with just one person, just look at altcoins... From everything we know er're led to believe that Satoshi was only one individual, but we can be wrong.

Yeah! that was the answer I was guessing to be the most obvious.
But I can't stop thinking that even if "he" released the white paper as being just one, there's a chance that "he" could have devised it all with some other members of the cypherpunk community.
I still believe that Satoshi could have been just the adopted  fictional anonymous character that was supposed to turn out the whole thing public.

Who are those early adopters? Satoshi team?
Are they now rich?

yes some of them are multi millionaires, althougth i do believe most of the early bitcoins have never moved, so who ever has the privkeys are either not using them for a reason, have lost the keys or are dead...... :-\

What if Satoshi is a code name for a project of some sort? That would be awesome.

But anyway, I do believe satoshi's least 2-3 persons.

What if this is just an FBI,CIA project?

although satoshi (one person) was speaking to others. it was just that one person that put all the different things like blocks, sha, private keys theory, decentralization all into one elegant masterpiece.. where by separately things like hashing and decentralization was seeds of an idea from others.. but no one else apart from satoshi managed to piece it all together in such a way that it would work..

the others just helped bug fix and test it worked, and then help it grow

i remember he even said that he was not working alone on everything for bitcoin, so i think it's correct to believe that he was a part of the group, but he was the head there, the general idea started from him

but at this point it does not matter much does it?

So he is indeed one lucky guy that is why many developer have followed his leads we are now seeing new coins coming up in the hope that they will become the new bitcoin or coins that will be accepted in the future,any individual or group can come out with a new coin because it is open source and available to general public

Maybe the Satoshi that we have here is just a mere spokes person of a group who is working on this project since they aim to make this anonymous.

I think Satoshi Nakamoto must be one person. If it was a group it would have been like a closed project with more of a centralized development and most of the coins would have been owned by them.

May be so but not because of your arguments. Anyhow to many other big inventions (and unimaginable before their invention) was invented but only one person. That doesn't mean that everything is made by him. There were for sure even other people who may have contribution on it or in every invention but the mind who was able to materialize or concept the invention was only one. I think this is the case of invention of bitcoin. And Satoshi Nakamoto is only one person. We can remember here Thomas Edison who invented the electric lamp. For sure he have been helped by other people but their help was secondary compared to the role of the first. Or another one of our days: Bill Gates. He has invented Windows OS but the first version of Windows make laugh compared to this last one. And in this last the contribution of Bill Gates may be only the codes of software.

But basically one person gets the idea and the person who got the idea and started to make efforts to make it come true, was Satoshi Nakamoto, I seriously wish I had just 10% o the guys's talent.Really I wish i could ever meet him, though not sure how I will identify him even if met in real life.

My common sense says he was not alone in mining it once it was uploaded, but that it was tested on a separate small network before it was made public

and the white paper came after that. You would not just release a piece of software onto the internet, if it was not tested on a much smaller scale.

The fact that the whole idea, was actually a combination of different ideas, make me more inclined to the think that it might be a couple of people, who

sat together for many weeks and brainstormed the concept and then put the different puzzles together to create the protocol. Once this was released,

Hal Finney and a bunch of guys pitched in to help test it and it grew from there. 

Satoshi made it alone the full concept and he created a monster,those one is alive till today,the thing is a genious behind bitcoin that made a new concept and valorizated our money.

i share that view. satoshi combined all stuff but got alot input from other devs. still a brilliant idea.

Satoshi Nakamoto is Nick Szabo.

See how the initials are the same just swapped around?

You can read Satoshi/Nicks blog at unenumerated.blogspot and you can see that it is the same person

Nick Szabo was a contributor to the Ethereum white paper.  Which makes Ethereum the full implementation of Satoshis vision of blockchain.

Some idiot will now try to deny it because "no one knows". Yeah right it's common knowlege idiots.

Satoshi Nakamoto is girl ::)

Nick Szabo is a man.

There is contradicting sound arguments for this very interesting topic:

1) If satoshi is only one man, it would mean he is some kind of super genius, this is less probable than:
2) Satoshi was a group of very smart people, but then again, option number 2) makes it hard to believe as well since a group of people has more chances at leaking who satoshi is than just a single people...

We will never know I think :D

the satoshi name belonged to one man, but the bitcoin idea came from a combination of other idea's from many people. but it was the one man that put the pieces together into one idea

the girl theory is ok.  so is the szabo theory. i'm partial to the todd theory at the moment, though. 

i agree that satoshi most probably wasnt just one person, i believe it was a team because they did a lot of work what would be very hard for one person

Are you guys dumb as fuck or is this a conspiracy of silence??

SATOSHI IS NICK SZABO!!!!! Fucksake you IDIOTS

Are you guys dumb or is this a coverup??  If no ones goong to lend even the slightest credence to my post then I'm going to have to assume it's the latter.

Any proof for that? If satoshi was multiple people, it would be a lot harder to keep the whole thing hidden. Chances are someone will accidentally revel something.

Why are you denying the obvious facts in front of your faces?

Satoshi Nakamoto is Nick Szabo.

Think about it, why would "Satoshi" reference Hal Finney and Wei Dai but not the main key player out of the three people Hal Nick and Wei?

Why would he not reference arguably the most important out of those three people?

It doesn't take Hercule Poirot to see that Satoshi is Nick Szabo.

To me it was obvious it was not just one since the beggining! Come on guys, why would anyone invest in something like that without even exchanging ideias with peers? Specially in the academic area, where it's more than natural that people will share their projects and build stuff together...

he was swapping idea's.. thats been public knowledge right from the start.. i dont see why people would think he was not swapping idea's
cypherpunks website as just one example.

Satoshi nakamoto is nick szabo.  Prove me wrong.

I believe he is just one person. he probably did all the research byhimself but once it came to testing he had to have some help.
I think this thread explains a lot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507458.0

You are asking for someone to prove you wrong but you don't even present evidences for what your are saying. C'mon... show us irrefutable proof that Szabo is Satoshi...

i guess you might be right that it wasnt just one person that created bitcoin, it must have been a team of people

To begin with, there's a probable chance that satoshi was an individual. As time goes on, it's harder to code and thus satoshi employed more people to work with him on the whole project, but the idea behind bitcoins definitely could have come from a single person. A very bright and clever single person.